Is Bruce Lee really better than Van Damme, Jet Li, Donnie Yen, Sammo Hung? / JKD expert interview
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Is Bruce Lee really better than other martial arts movie stars such as JCVD, Jet Lie, Donnie Yen and Sammo Hung? If so, what really sets him apart. In this discussion with JKD Tommy Carruthers, we explore this topic as well as several others related to Bruce Lee; such as, the recent character assassination going on and the Quentin Tarantino controversy related to Bruce Lee and the film Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Chapters:
01:10 - Is Bruce Lee really that much better?
03:35 - Bruce Lee Character Assassination
10:49 - Bruce Lee’s Authenticity
13:10 - Bruce Lee’s killer instinct
14:32 - Quentin Tarantino controversy with Bruce Lee
17:11 - Cliff Booth vs Bruce Lee
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Bruce Lee was a incredible human being. Strong, educated, knowledgeable, intelligent and the list goes on. The world would have been a much different place if he still be alive today. His impact is tremendous in History and his Legend is undeniable. Period.
amen
Amen brother
He was not a super hero. We just like to idealise people tragically dead. Bruce was drinking and addicted to meds and only made it after he died or made it because his death brought more people to see the movie? Brandon Lee was not good. Dacascos and countless others were better and more talented. He was not considered that good till Crow's promo started coming out with similarity to his dad's death. Musician Kurt Cobain would have overdosed by now etc etc We always think of tragically died people as ideal super hero. If Jackie Chan did more serious movies and died during one of his famous stunts noone would be talking about Bruce now.
The battle with the guards (ETD) is still, to this day, the greatest ever put to film. He was simply light years ahead of the game!
I do not have to watch the video to tell you that Bruce would fight until death! He's unbeatable! An immortal legend! May the Dragon found his peace. R.I.P. Bruce Lee
I think he was smarter when it came to martial arts. The rest were trying to look better on film, but I think Bruce's life goal was to make martial arts better. He was so ahead of his time when it came to martial arts.
I agree! He even made his own supplement shake lol !
This is a really good thoughtful interview. We all have faults and things that people can call us out on but Bruce created the modern world of martial arts and ripped apart cultural stereotypes. His impact is undeniable. He is as significant as anyone from the last century in cultural impact and he taught good values and philosophy. Maybe he did a few naughty things. That's being human
It was dooppy
I’m sure he cheated on his wife with all that fame….. but, I’m sure hot women were literally throwing themselves at him!!
@@dennisjr77 yes he was the biggest superstar asia has ever seen. Hard to be humble is such circumstance
@@dennisjr77 i guess u cheated and gay
@@mrhawk1924….. 🤣 huh? 🤦♂️
Amazing that you were able to get Tommy Carruthers, he is the real deal and is the modern embodiment of the JKD philosophy. Bruce Lee was way ahead of his time, there is no one else that was doing what he did in 60's-70's. On top of being a pioneer in martial arts, he was a cha cha champion, philosopher, nutritionist, and incorporated training/bodybuilding components into his art form. He even invented equipment to train specific parts of the body that were crucial to combat.
Please check out "Showdown in Oakland", it's a book on the fight between Bruce Lee and Wong Jack Man. It has a lot of interesting information about Chinatown and the martial arts community of that era. Trust me, it answers a lot of questions.
Looking forward to more content, hopefully you can get Dan Inosanto someday!
Bruce lee was developing his art at rapid pace, we can only imagine where his fighting form would go.
He himself said you shouldn’t stand still but keep learning ,use what works for you.
He was blessed with blinding speed and he was able to the left or right side with equal effect.
His hard work ,training and knowledge was unmatched and was years ahead of anything else.
Agree completely
If he was still alive… he’d be other worldly!!
Bruce Lee is just another different breed he was the real deal 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💪🏽
He never REALLY got credit for being such a great choreographer. martial arts is hard to make look good on film at the time and he was able to do that perfectly.
Absolutely agree. Specially having in mind how martial movies before him looked. He made them look much more spectacular and more real at the same time. Bruce was an innovator
I've heard martial artists critique Enter the Dragon for some of its fight scenes as compared to Bruce's earlier films. But I'll always consider it to be the most seminal martial arts film ever made due to Bruce's intense onscreen persona in that film. He doesn't talk a lot, but his gaze is deadly. You can't fake that. Bruce's embodiment of that character carries the entire film.
@@EBKmichael Believe what you want. And yes, Bruce was dangerous . . . deadly, in fact.
"Enter the Dragon" may be the most seminal martial arts film, but it isn't Bruce Lee's best. "The Way of the Dragon" and "Fist of Fury" are much better films. In those two films, Lee doesn't have to share screen time with John Saxon and Jim Kelly (I think the studio was hedging their bets). Also his final battle with the main villains in those two films is better than Lee's duel with Han.
@@bmw128racer Trust me, I've heard all the critiques of EtD. Don't care. Bruce's character and presence in EtD has a commanding but understated presence not seen in earlier films. As I said, I've already heard all the critiques. Don't care.
@@bmw128racer FACTS! ETD was not soley a Lee film. And Han was severely outclassed in that last fight. The only formidable opponent he had in that film was O’harra
@@integraleric Extremely dangerous. And all the drug letters prove is that Lee was more badass and crazier than we’d initially been led to believe. Being that functional with a drug habit like that, the man was a machine.
Bruce introduced beauty to the art of fighting on the silver screen his presence has in mine eyes, never been surpassed
Bruce was a head of his time. He will always be the biggest influence in my life and still is.
Im glad you made this video. I have seen so many ppl taking things Bruce said out of context or "debunking" some of his concepts while high level fighters are still using some of his concepts to this day
Bruce Lee is best I like his moves and style.He's the best.
Yes I believe Bruce Lee is the better athlete, the better innovator and trained and sparred with the full contact karate champs of his time. Also Bruce has a lot of experience in sparring and street fights than the average person realizes. Plus regardless of what anyones says about his fighting skills he definitely had a Brilliant martial arts mind.
Put it this way, Jackie Chan did two movies with Benny the Jet, who is super fast and yet when Jackie Chan talked about Bruce Lee he says he was the fastest person he had worked with.
I respect and agree with your opinion on keeping Bruce's skeletons left in the closet. I was hoping you'd take this stance. I think we should acknowledge that Bruce was an imperfect being, but we need not dwell on it too long. Using a great man's personal failures to justify our own is not the way. We need to focus on improving ourselves instead of wasting that time on negativity.
Total agree sir 🤘
So true, people have the audacity to comment on Bruce Lees personal life yet the majority haven't accomplished anything........they really piss me off. What inspires me about Bruce Lee, is what he overcame. This was an Asian man who knew nobody in America, a very racist America at the time and was able to rise to the very top of success, through massive hard work, diligence and self belief. People can learn so much from his story, but they dwell on really superficial and unimportant things like "can Bruce beat up this person"or he slept with this person and or was arrogant. Bruce Lee had the blueprint that all super successful people have, which is to set really high level goals almost impossible goals, like Elon, bezoz etc and put plans in place to achieve them. The fact that if I asked a kid today who is Steve mcqueen they'd probably have no clue but they'd know who Bruce Lee is, yet in the 60s Steve Mcqueen was the biggest star on the planet shows the lofty heights that Bruce's mindset was on. This is what people need to focus on with Bruce Lee, to inspire the next generation instead of commenting on UA-cam about how Bruce isn't a real fighter. Almost like complaining about a cobweb on the ceilings of the sistine chapel.
@@riverbendkings Right. At the end of the day, why do any of those things matter? We still learn from him either way, we should take what is useful and discard what is not.
@@MatrixCobretti yep!
@@MatrixCobretti The Man is a legend!!!!
I think Bruce represented strong masculine values and the system we live in absolutely hates these values. Suddenly all this crap comes out about Bruce, I think they are trying to undermine his message, destroy his legacy and portray him as a weak narcissist
I agree with you 100%. This poison is everywhere, anyone or anything representing all that is strong and good in the past is being ritualistically attacked. We need to stand up and hold the line for those that have inspired, and continue to inspire us!
Make men, men again. Sick of all these whiney babies on t.v.
Hollywood studios almost never put an Asian or Latino man as the main character in a movie. Food for thought..
Sean, I think you nailed it
And the fact that he was an Asian male who embodied all these masculine qualities, and Hollywood is notorious for the emasculation of Asian men in society further solidifies that there’s a socially acceptable racism towards Asians, Asian men to be more precise. Bruce Lee gave Asian men a set of balls, and Hollywood has been working to take them away ever since.
All I can say is that Bruce Lee had charisma in bucketloads. When he was on screen you looked at him and only him.
It’s very easy to attack the character of a man who’s dead. He can’t defend himself and disprove anything that’s being said. But NONE OF IT changes the legacy he left behind or the impact he had not on one generation but on several generations of martial artist. And the cultural impact he had. Also:; I am more inclined to trust the opinions of Bob Wall, Chuck Norris, Joe Lewis, Gene Labell, Jim Kelly you know PEOPLE WHO WERE FUCKING THERE! As opposed to a book based on here say, or a movie made a filmmaker who was 10 years old when Bruce died
Well said brother! 100%
@@krillinroshi9312 Thank you 🙏 🙇♂️
@Robert even the people you trust are still hearsay..unless you were actually around yourself to witness something its always just hearsay.
@@mikieson very true
@@mikieson true, unless they provide evidence.
Bruce was a martial arts prodigy... a lot of doubters simply do not understand that Bruce was able to do things most people couldn't, and on top of that, he would study and absorb so many different arts extremely quickly. Grandmaster Ed Parker talked about this, as did other world class fighters that were very close to him.
Bruce had flaws as a person, absolutely no doubt about that. He was extremely intense and passionate about everything, including his short temper, and arrogant (but confident) demeanor. He rubbed people the wrong way sometimes because of this, but he was also fanatical about martial arts study, and reached a skill level few people do. He broke barriers for Asian Americans, and he inspired people of all colors for generations (and still does). Respect to the great Lee Jun Fan (Bruce Lee).
Well said bro
That's not historically accurate, Bruce Lee was not a martial arts prodigy, Bruce was sick as a child, he had chrypordchidsm and slow physical development he didn't even start learning wing chun until he was 16 this was verified by wong shung leung. Bruce Lee's kicking was beginner level, he wasn't an advanced kicker it's not true. According to Hawkins cheung Bruce Lee had 2 months of Northern shaolin kicking lessons before he left Hong Kong, in 64 jhoon rhee stated that Bruce Lee's kicking was no match for taekwondo and that he couldn't kick so he taught him the side kick in detail. Bruce Lee's kicking philosophy in the 60s was to kick below the waist never above, in his TV show he did higher kicks for show but he wasn't a kicking expert he was simply doing what little he had learnt in Hong Kong. I would say its true that Chuck Norris did teach Lee high kicks because Hwang ing sik stated in an interview that Bruce Lee's kicking had Korean traits, now that could be from jhoon rhee but we don't know how long rhee trained Lee but we do know that Chuck norris and Bruce Lee worked out together for a number of years and that norris was a tang soo do artist which of course is a Korean kicking art. Hwang jung Lee the best kicker to ever be in movies said on camera that Bruce Lee's kicking was not bad, he wasn't bad he didn't even say he was any good, now this is someone who was not just an actor but a real life master that trained army soldiers in self defence and someone who used his martial arts to kill during the Vietnam War so serious combat knowledge. I asked Hwang jung Lee myself the same question and he stated the exact same answer Bruce Lee's kicking was not bad.
@@silverfoxsilverfox6932 Bruce’s kicks in game of death/way of the dragon looking pretty damn good to me, not to mention I’ve seen very few if any, expert kickers that have the snap in their kicks that Bruce had
@@axelstone3131 That's a joke, Bruce Lee's kicks were not bad, at least that's what Hwang jung Lee told me when I asked him about Bruce Lee's kicking ability he is a real life master that did movies, simply put he was the best kicker to ever be in movies, Jackie Chan worked with both Bruce Lee and Hwang jung Lee and he stated in his biography that Hwang jung Lee was the greatest kicker in the whole history of Hong Kong cinema, Hwang trained Jackie for a period of time, Bruce Lee has zero snap no power.
@@silverfoxsilverfox6932 nonsense.
If you love the man, love the whole man, flaws and all. Trying to make it seem as if he had no human imperfections is just ridiculous. But you don't have to put other martial artists down, just to boost Bruce Lee up, he is great on his own. Just like all the rest of them.
Bruce lee has incredible explosive power. He is philosophy major in college same as me. I think what separate Bruce and other martial artists is that he read tons of books and they don’t. Bruce Lee’s water philosophy is come from Dao De Jin which is an ancient Chinese taoism book. No other people is that smart to mix martial art with Chinese daoism.
BRUCE LEE WAS A BEAUTIFUL SOUL AND THE TOTAL PACKAGE AND THERE ALWAYS WILL BE SCUMBAGS THAT WILL TRY TO RUIN THE IMAGE. 💯
...cough cough...bruce lee letters!
@@robd1329 Yeah, they're kind of fascinating, so he was human after all! Doesn't really diminish his achievements or lessen his enormous influence both in martial arts & in movies, though, does it? Nope.
In the early 1970s taking Coke was seen as part of the landscape of the Hollywood elitist set I guess...It was fashionable & there were less prohibitions against it....That doesn't excuse it but if you read these Bruce letters in detail he wasn't taking coke as an addictive habit , in one of the letters to Bob Baker he even said he was only taking it to get into the lifestyle mindset of a character he was going to play.....Plus if Bruce had been a REGULAR user of coke there is no way he could have performed those hyper kinetic fight scenes & worked so intensively on ETD as fight/stunt co-ordinator....It would have diminished his sharpness & physical fitness & it would have showed both behind and in front of the camera ......But people blow stuff out of proportion because they have an agenda to try to destroy Bruce's name & reputation.
Correct because the haters will always hate because of jealousy.
You got Tommy Carruthers on to talk about Bruce Lee, friggin awesome! I took some courses back in the day from him, great teacher as well
Dude, Tommy Carruthers is the real deal. He showed me a few moves back in the day in Vancouver while he was visiting and left the best impression on me. He did the same thing a few years later he he taught a mini class in Seattle .
So his words hold all the weight. Any doubters watch a few hours videos before making any comments and know from personal experience that he can actually do the things he’s demonstrating
Really love your channel, man. You're doing a great service to the martial arts community. You've been interviewing some absolute legends, and your interviewing skills are really excellent and authentic. I was delighted to see Tommy on here. Along with Paul Vunak, Larry Hartsell, and Burton Richardson, Tommy is, IMHO, one of the best second-generation JKD practitioners and teachers in the world. In fact, he's the only person I've seen who genuinely moves like Bruce. Never doubt the Scots!
For me, all the “bad stuff” that’s recently surfaced, or has been floating around for decades but is receiving more scrutiny now, simply helps to humanize the man. I remember listening to a guy talk about a service he’d built to help ex-convicts find jobs and mainstream back into society, and he was asked if they ask people what they’d been incarcerated for. He said they neither ask nor care; the clients have served their time and, as fellow human beings, are more than the worst thing they’ve done in their lives. A noble sentiment. And extending that sentiment to Bruce, he was more than all the bad things-if that’s how you feel about it-he did; conversely, he was also more than all the good and great things he did. He was, as he was so fond of saying, a human being.
If samo hung,bolo yeung, Jackie Chan and other martial artists who met him, worked with him and fought him and worked with other martial artists say he is the best then he must be the best.
It really is true that they couldn't tie Bruce Lee's shoelaces. It is very difficult to tie someone's shoelaces while they are kicking you, and even if you were fast enough Bruce Lee's shoes didn't have laces, so it was a lost cause from the beginning!
Look at the impact he had with just a few films.... he has that carisma and screen presence that steals the scene from all the other actors
Bro, thank you for bringing the JKD legend Tommy Caruthers on to the channel! He brought a lot of good insight into Bruce, especially in terms of recent revelations. Is this character assassination? As Tommy said, we're learning that Bruce was a real person with flaws, like everyone else. Personally, I say we have to be realistic. Yes, Bruce was a pioneer in martial arts and his philosophies have inspired millions. And he was also a coke addict. All of this is true. My question is which do you emphasize? Is coke addiction a deal breaker for you? It isn't for me. And it doesn't change Bruce's accomplishments or his positive impact, especially in my life. Finally, I definitely agree with Tommy on Bruce's killer instinct. That instinct, I don't feel it with Jet Li, Jackie, or Donnie Yen. Jean Claude has intensity, but a killer instinct? Bruce had that.
JCVDs coke addiction never bothered me, always looked passed it, same with Bruce Lee now.
@@VikingSamurai Understood. And thank you for bringing that context in with JCVD. I think a lot of us still have to come to grips with someone who has an addiction. This person doesn’t need punishment or condemnation, but treatment and definitely understanding. I think it’s tough for many to give that, especially to guys like Bruce Lee or JCVD. These are the heroes, the badasses and tough guys. In reality, they’re the ones who are suffering the most. Again, thank you for bringing this topic up for discussion 👍.
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I've loved Bruce since I was a young child. I have suspected for a long time though, that psychedelics had an influence on his development of JKD. I wasn't sure if he had used any, but the Baker letters recently confirmed that. He was in LA in the 60's after all. I''ve used psychedelics myself, & have always had a positive experience. For those that are intelligent & of sound mind, it definitely inspires creativity. I think Taoism had a significant influence on JKD too. Be formless & shapeless like water. That's Taoism. JKD was also the original MMA. People say MMA is a sport & JKD is for the street, but MMA didn't start out as a sport. MMA started to develop when the UFC was still a fighting contest with minimal rules. People forget that. He was 30 years ahead of his time in the martial arts. Besides JKD, he was a hell actor & director too. A phenomenal talent overall. Good interview with Tommy.
While working as a film extra many years ago i met one of Lees students he sparred with one of the guys between filming and was truly awesame in his movements, i asked him how good was Lee and he said that couldnt get near him to land a strike!!!-nice guy, impressive monkey climb strike!!!
Wat?
Bruce Lee is the equivalent of the first ever time someone in the basketball world did an Alley-Oop...
Think about that!
People watched basketball for a while and had never experienced or whitnessed an alley-oop then all of a sudden someone comes along and changes the whole game and the consciousness of fans and practitioners...
THAT was Bruce Lee!
For me bruce is the ultimate man since childhood.
He could of beat any man any weight anywhere period.
Till this day I've never seen anyone who can move like him, that finesse that speed and power.
Bruce is the grandmaster and the rest are his children there's no comparison.
Case closed
fiction can be fun
Yen is up there to be honest
Good imagination 🤪😂 and sense of humor..
"He could of beat any man any weight anywhere period."
Based on which movie?
Lee was at the right place at the right time with the right skills and ability to present them.
Some of Bruce Lee's students said for someone his size he could hit as hard as a heavy weight. That is what I have heard.
Congratulations, Vike. You keep topping yourself with these guests. Getting Tommy Carruthers on your show is something I don’t even think Rogan can accomplish. Keep up the great work.
I’ve wondered for a while if Rogan would ever get Tommy on but the dude is so indoctrinated with bjj and MMA he’s probably now aware of anything outside of his small circle.
Tommy is a nobody and a big mouth
@@TotalMeltdown2 good joke ya non entity
The last dragon. Nice.
One of the most qualified people to talk about Bruce’s prowess as a fighter is John Little. Please invite him on your show!
Norris refers to a real fight not a choreography of a series or movie, in series Bruce Lee could kick up but Norris gave him the security to kick up in a real fight, that's what he meant
I love how they go after the legend when he's gone. If they can't beat him or all his accomplishments why not his character that's all they can do. He will always be the best because he's still in our minds.
Bruce inspired so many to get into martial arts... So, yes he's really that good.
Of course! Bruce Lee is The King of Kung Fu. He is the blueprint of all martial arts movies. The man. The myth.And yes, his skills were real! His legacy alone is unbeatable. The holder of 7 world records. He practically started the martial arts genre. You see Bruce Lee's influence undeniable and is in practically all martial art movies. Jet Li, Jackie Chan, Jean Claude Van Damm, Steven Segal, Westley Snipes and the list goes on forever.. they all own Bruce Lee a debt of gratitude. Like Muhammad Ali.. Bruce Lee is greatest of all time! When we were little kids, we all played as if we were Bruce Lee. Come on admit it. Bruce Lee is a martyr of the genre. To think otherwise would be blasphemous!
Bruce was off the charts fast, he had more of a variety of techniques he used and his strikes & kicks were timed better he didn't have to do the splits in every movie and let's face it Van Damme did some ridiculous strikes and overly telegraphed kicks etc, anyway Bruce's philosophy, techniques, speed, strategies were all superior to Van Damme. With the utmost respect to Van Damme. Relax everyone it's just my opinion.
Telegraphed kicks are what's preferred by Producers in movies. Bruce's kicks were so fast sometimes the cameras couldn't pick up the whole kicks.
Bruce was an exceptional martial artist with an IQ off the chart when it came to studying the arts. Personally I don’t believe the other contemporaries or modern day artists could actually take him. Not because of the arts involved, but because of his exceptional fight brain and capacity to work around his opponents working out what to while actually shaping what to do. Martial skill is more than whether you can do a fancy kick, equally as important is to do what is necessary. I think Bruce had a capacity to go beyond and really finish the job, where as modern day artists would probably stop far earlier in a fight. I would really love to do one of Dan Inosanto’s seminars as he is probably the only Guru alive to tell how it was with Bruce. Just my take on it.
Only once in existence does someone so special arrives, not in a million years.
Like Bolo said : "Bruce Lee. Then Jean-Claude Van Damme. And then who ? Who's next ?... No one."
Bolo said there was only one Bruce Lee
very true and both are my heroes.
Some people like to tear people down to make themselves feel better.
Is Bruce better than the others? I think yes, but with an exception. Bruce is the definitive HK style screen fighter. Jet, Jackie, Donnie, Sammo, and all the rest in that style just can't measure up to Lee's technical precision, speed, power, charisma, and passion when he's onscreen. Van Damme is the exception in my mind, because JCVD and Bruce are so very different in their styles. It's like comparing apples and oranges, both are perfect in their own way. I think many people feel like Bruce and JCVD are the most charismatic and beautiful performers for a reason. Like Bolo Yeung said: "Like Bruce lee, Jean-Claude offered a special package, a unique look that attracted and kept audiences coming back."
Yeh Bruce is the best 100%. I also agree with everything else you said.
BRUCE LEE IS GOOD IN HIS WAY AND VAN DAMME IS GOOD HIS WAY NO ONE IS BETTER THEN OTHER BOTH ARE GOOD he is in his own way 😑
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Bruces speed and power??? There's no evidence apart from movie scenes yes he could move well and side kick a man across the room with the help of movie effects but could he actually do all this off camera
@@lea-rw5cb You've missed the point entirely, I'm not talking about real world skill here, I'm talking about performing as a film fighter. Film fighting is an art, some people have it others don't. Being a good fighter in the ring does not mean you will be a great screen fighter, much the opposite often times. Don "The Dragon" Wilson would beat most any martial arts actor in a kickboxing match but you won't find many people that would argue that his movie fight scenes are on par with Bruce Lee, Van Damme, Jet Li, or Jackie Chan. As for your claim that there is no proof that Bruce had skill in speed and power off-camera, there are plenty of videos of him demonstrating considerable power. The man trained on a 700 pound bag, what more do you want? You claiming he had no speed off-camera is just ludicrous. Numerous eyewitnesses have commented on it and once again, plentiful video footage exists that supports that Bruce was exceptionally fast.
As for Chucky if I remember it correctly Bruce already knew Grandmaster Jhoon Rhee even before he met Norris and they were both working out together and exchanging ideas as well as testing each other's skills which included kicking techniques...!!!
No question he is the MAN!!!! That simple!!!
11:19 that’s what William Wallace said, and sounded like! Haha That was a great interview, I’d like to see another interview with Mr. Carruthers. You know who else would be a cool interview with? Paul Vunak.
Man this is so awesome you got Tommy. Awesome.
Bruce lee will be remembered long after those other actors are forgotten. Reason is his charisma was at the level of elvis and ali. In some ways he was the godfather of mma. His jeet kune do was the taking of the things that work in all fighting styles and putting them together. At the beginning of enter the dragon you can see him doing jujitsu with mma gloves on.
Bruce was not a godfather of mma and JKD is not a mix of styles.
@@smesh141 you don't know what you are talking about homie.
@@will03ize That's interesting, because mma idea was presented for the first time 2500 years before Bruce's birth XD.
"Jkd is not all in one, it stands by it's own" - Bruce Lee.
Are you still sure that I'm the one who doesn't know? XD
@@smesh141 anything goes fighting begins at the beginning of mankind. The first documented tournament was 648 bce in the Greek Olympic games. Modern mma was born out of UFC 1. Bruce Lee's JKD was a combination of what works in fighting and leaving out the Kung fu parts that don't work. You have much to learn young grasshopper
@@will03ize As I said he wasn't combining anything, so what are talking about? And what it has to do with being so called mma godfather? Age has nothing to do with facts.
Bruce Lee broke down barriers on the racial side having a asian lead in a big hollywood movie had never been done before, he brought martial arts movie making to the mainstreem internationally not just in China and America. Chuck Norris would not be a house old name if he wasnt in a movie with Bruce.
Tommy Carruthers! Haven't seen this guy in a while!
To answer the title, as much as I also like the other stars, Bruce can't really be topped, even after his passing. He paved the way for not just martial arts actors, but Asian actors in general from all over the world. He was one of the first to introduce Kung Fu, if not THE first, to a bigger audience.
Regarding his physicality, Bruce was a complete package. He's got among the best physiques besides Arnold, Sly, Donnie, and Van Damme, but what sets Bruce apart from them, is that he worked out all for the sake of his martial arts training, and to improve his speed and power. And he was among the first martial artists, again, if not the first, to incorporate different martial techniques and training methods to his own strengths. He was basically Achilles, or Heracles in a human body.
Regarding authenticity, and being yourself. It's understandable why Brandon Lee refused to play his dad in Dragon: The Bruce Lee story. Imitation is pale, as Brandon said.
The actor, Mike Moh, who played Bruce Lee, performed really well in OUATIH. Sad thing though, is after having read the script, he doubts whether he should play the part or not, for the way Bruce was written. You can check out Lucky Boys Podcast for their interview with an actor, Perry Yung, who also knows Mike personally.
Also, a big bonus. Eddie Griffin shared a story once on that documentary "How Bruce Lee Changed The World". He watched Fist of Fury at a drive-in theatre with two screens, porno being on the other screen. Eddie said that Bruce was so good, nobody was watching the porno screen.
Having Tommy as a guest just blew my mind! Another awesome guest!
I just wish I'd understand him more. It is quite hard.
There is some guy on here who has found some very interesting pictures. One was of Bruce Lee in his yard, breaking a rock in half, using just 2 fingers, which apparently he did on a daily basis.
He also had 6 sparring matches against Bolo, on the set of Enter and won 5 out of 6 of them. He beat a highly trained Shotokan black belt, the size of a fxxking bear 5 out of 6 times, which throws the whole size argument clean out of the window. And that ONE loss was probably simply due to the restrictions of it being a sparring match, rather than a real fight.
Then there is the footage, that I'm sure you've seen, of Bruce Lee striking a 10th Dan black belt, starting from 6ft away and the black belt failing to block him in time.
Anyone who thinks they would have had even the remotest chance against someone like that is living in fxxking La La Land.
Great interview with Tommy Carruthers!
There is only one of each of these guys! They are all special and possess special qualities! I love them all!!!🙏🏼
THANK'S FOR PUTTING THIS VIDEO OUT THERE IT DOES A GOOD JOB OF KEEPING ALL OF THAT NEGATIVE BULLSHIT ABOUT BRUCE LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID THE DEAD CAN'T DEFEND THEMSELVES ONE THING IS FOR SURE HE LEFT A EXTREMELY POSITIVE ATTITUDE ON A LOT OF PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD AND WILL FOR EVER INTO INFINITEY THANK YOU BRUCE AND BRANDON R.I.P. 🙏🐲☯️🐉🙏
I respect Tommy for putting Bruce Lee on a High Level because Bruce deserves to be there just watch the way he kicks, punches and moves very unique and so powerful he was ahead of his time. Even though my idol Bruce passed away when he was only 32 he accomplished his dream by making a name for himself in Hollywood and was offered a role in a movie called Enter the Dragon which is still one of the most successful Martial Art movies ever made. Thanks Samurai Viking for this breakdown of a Legend. JKD 🐉
What set Bruce Lee apart was his ethos. Bruce was 100% committed to continually improving himself in his understanding of martial arts, both physically and mentally.
Awesome song from The Last Dragon movie bro. Donnie Yen would probably come close. That all said, Bruce Lee trained Chuck Norris after Chuck Norris won the world championship in fighting. Chuck Norris has gone on record saying that Bruce Lee was a very tough trainer and that Bruce Lee would continue to train when Chuck Norris would rest. That says the level of advancement that Bruce Lee was at that he was training harder than the world champion. Jim Kelly who's another world champion also said that Bruce Lee was undefeatable and this is coming from two world champions. I love your channel as always my friend. 🏆🙂
But Bruce Lee also benefited from training with karate world champions like Chuck Norris, Mike Stone and Joe Lewis. Daniel Inosanto said that Benny Urquidez would beat Bruce Lee in a real fight. I saw the video here on youtube where he said that. Gene LeBell said in the Bruce Lee documentary "Iam Bruce Lee" that he would put all his money on Chuck Norris in a real fight against Bruce Lee. There´s no proof that Bruce Lee was a real fighter because he never ever fought against a top fighter. He was an actor.
@The Crazy Amateur Runner That´s not what I said. I said that both benefited from training with each other. Bruce Lee was no fighter, so he could definitely learn something from Norris or Joe Lewis too.
@@Katzenhase Dan never said Benny could beat Bruce in a street fight, he said Benny closely reminded him how Bruce fought, Bruces pound for pound strength and power would have been too much for Benny.
@@Katzenhase With all due respect to Norris, Lewis, & Stone (they did win national open karate tournaments in America in the 60s & early 70s, Joe was the first full-contact karate champion in America), none of them ever won a legit "world" title; how could they, not one them ever competed internationally! Any of them saying they were "world champions'" would be like an American soccer team claiming to be "world champions" without ever having played in the World Cup games! Or even against a team from any where outside the USA! Yes, those guys did something Bruce Lee never did, they competed, successfully, in martial arts tournaments, but they were never "world" champions.
And, yes, Bruce Lee was an actor, but he was also an enormously influential, & respected, martial artist. As for Dan Inosanto saying Benny would beat Bruce "in a real fight", though it's a matter of conjecture in any case, you're misquoting Dan. I still have that issue of Fighting Stars magazine from the early 80s; it was Dan's opinion that Benny would beat Bruce in the ring but not on the street, with no rules.
@The Crazy Amateur Runner Uhhmm, have seen the letter written by Chuck Norris to Bruce Lee acknowledging that Chuck learned from Bruce & felt "honored" to have trained with Bruce? Look it up, it's out there now for anyone to see (like the Bob Baker letters). Chuck may've changed his story a bit after Bruce died, but, well, while Bruce was still around he told a different version.
You should have lead with the fact that you have Tommy Carruthers on the show. You would have gotten a lot more views. He is a definite respected expert resource when it comes to all things Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee’s first student Jesse Glover gave him very high marks and said he is the only martial artist he’s ever seen, who he would compare his speed to that of Bruce Lee’s speed. That is saying a lot!
In the UK at the moment it's almost fashionable to tarnish legacies. Maybe it's a world wide problem too.
The answer is YES! This shouldn't even be a question! The other guys (even your guy - Van Damme, which was obvious to tell because all of his movies showcased behind you in your background) were good in their own right but not to be compared to Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee revolutionized martial arts like no other! The man introduces the 1-inch punch, 2-finger pushup, and created a self-defensive system (Jeet Kune Do) as well as making movies all before his death at 32. Wow! His charisma, looks, demeanor, mannerisms, and screen presence are second to none. Great interview though.
Bruce Lee was training the top martial artists like a “mother to a child”. It just so happened that he started in acting, he developed a powerful brain, read constantly, and traveled the world looking for the best masters to test his JKD to. The man fought in the street( knife fights and chain fights) in Hong Kong. This is a once in the history of the world person. Never will we have another man like that again.
👏👏👏👏Way to go Mr. Carruthers 👍👍!! Bruce was what we called a 24 yr old kid today!! He formed Jeet Kune Do in 1965 , a cast member ( & 🌟) of an 🎬 TV show, martial arts instructor to the 🌟 & knew what took others decades to realize. Also, he had to Break the stereotypical views euro-americans had on Asians in those days!! Tarantino won't mentioned the reasons why he's cocky why? Because it vilifies his" aunts & uncles"!!
Here's the deal. I've seen Bruce Lee in action. I was there when he was the shit. I have lived to this point and have seen pretty much everyone from the martial arts world in action. Believe me, he was the best and no one can change my opinion of this. He was a freak. He lived strickly to hone his craft. Today's martial artist loaf in between fights. They spend several months in the gym prior to their fights. Bruce never rested. Always studying, practicing and improving daily. Never satisfied. He was driven like no one else. He grew up fighting in the streets everyday. He welcomed any challenger. He defeated all of them. Alot of times in less than a minute. No, these guys today don't have what he had. No way.
Please tell me there's a longer 1hr long interview with Tommy?
There will be more with Tommy.
Bruce Lee Is The GodFather Of Martial Arts
Very true troy.👍
As a martial artist yes but that doesn't make him the best it just means he put it on the map 👍👍👍
Royce gracie
I love Tommy Carruthers! So glad he appeared
Bruce Lee is certainly a strong influence. Without Bruce Lee these guys would not exist in Hollywood. After Enter The Dragon the Martial Arts genre blew up, got accepted in Hollywood and the mainstream entertainment even created a Bruceploitation w all these Li's and Le's and Dragon Lee's sorry ass imitators made money out of this. Van Damne is humble enough to admit that BL certainly influence him back in Belgium and gave him the motivation to come to America to pursue his dreams. Good for JCVD he got his dreams!
I read the compliments for Bruce and found them all to be correct. He was the father of American Karate. ❤️🙂
Older generations are genetically superior, tougher, and with better common sense wisdom.
Younger generations are more knowledgeable and have access to more resources.
The top guys that came before Bruce Lee, they just weren't on camera like Bruce was.
..that's what changed. You get to see Bruce, even if you weren't alive when he was.
I love the topics that you're dropping,had to drop a like before i even watch a video. Hope you can do videos on ppl like a chuck norris, donnie yen, jim kelly
As a man, when you meet a man for the first time you measure him. You compare yourself against yourself and gadge how you woul do in combate. Knowing all that Lee had speed, strenght, technique,experience fighting in the street and passion. None of the martial artist since Lee had what he had in his eyes: you knew he could kill you. Lee intimidated the guy that played Robin in Batman to the degree that this man soiled himself- how do you think Lee looked at him? Robin knew Lee could literally kill him and there was nothing he could do to stop him. You had to have a little bit more in any category of the qualities that Bruce had: speed, technique, strenght flexibility, passion...etc., nobody has that. Some may be a little stronger but fall far short in so many areas! Lee was more than strong enough to break bones, so how do you stop that...most have no where near Lee's speed! One hit is all he needs. Eyes, throat, kidneys, liver, groin...etc, too many vulnerable areas to defend them against a sharp shooter. Lee did pushups on 2 fingers or thumbs at extreme angles, high, low, sides...so his strenght didn't deminish at those angles. Who can say that?
YOU SAID MAN I COULD HAVE NOT SAID IT BETTER I DON'T THINK NOBODY COULD HAVE ✌👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🐉☯️🐲
Bruce is the man who Popularized Karate in America. He is not a tournament Karate style fighter but a street fighter style. I have fought this style and it will defeat the tournament style. I was surprised by this Karate style and shown how you must be trained in his style to defeat him. Chuck Norris worked with Bruce and has great respect for his style. So do I. 🙂❤️
He was a philosopher, however entertaining wise I think Jackie Chan surpasses them all the man is pretty genius
He was a lot more than just a philosopher. Smh.
Jackie Chan lived a lot longer
Jackie Chan as you know was & is just a BEAST acrobatic which Bruce was not. Many aren't. Jackie's the total package IMO.
Let’s talk about that kick Van Dam does at 12.:23 though, that was perfectly executed!!
The portrayal of Bruce lee in tarantinos movie was a hit piece on his character/legacy for what reason I don't know??
I like Jet li also but Bruce Lee was a wonderful martial artist. I didn't realize how passionate Jim Kelly was about martial arts
I think yall need to put some respect on Jackie chans name! As an actual martial artist he might not be on Bruce Lees level but to say he doesn't have the heart or the drive is ridiculous! He's put he body through more damage than most fighters, just to entertain the world. What Bruce did for martial arts, Jackie did for stunt/action movies. He's the greatest martial arts action star.
True 💯 JC is truly an acrobatic martial art genius.
Almost all of Bruce Lee's students were boxers, Judoka, Kenpo guys....Danny Inosanto was a brown belt in Judo and a Kenpo blackbelt and said he could do nothing with Bruce when he met him. The others have said pretty much the same. Joe Lewis and Chuck Norris, both already karate point champions went and trained with Bruce. (Lewis later did some "full contact" fights). A black belt, high level martial artist doesn't go and train with someone unless they have respect for their skills and technique. Unless you think they are your equal or better why waste time training with them? After Bruce died some people, out of ego or self promotion have said things that I don't think they would have said if Bruce was standing in front of them.
In my opinion I don’t think it would be much of a fight with any of the fighters you mentioned because these are basically stars who fight as well but Bruce was a fighter and trained himself in a away that if anyone posed any threat then he would up the gears and it wouldn’t last long at all.
There's a cool artwork online of Bruce lee surrounded by the greatest fighters like jackie chan, jean-claude, Steven seagal, donnie yen, and jet li..
If Bruce was alive today there would be no doubt that he was and is one of the greatest martial artist the world has ever known. Before every belt promotion I would watch scenes from his movies fighting. I study his form and technique and ace my promotions. My story isn’t unique as I’m sure many martial artists did the same.
No one was better than Bruce Lee. He was special. He will always be the best
Sammo Hung beat Bruce Lee in a fight in an alleyway, Jackie Chan stated this in his autobiography
Was it a very dark alley?
Really? I've read both of Jackie's autobiographies, don't remember that version of the story being in there. I've also seen an interview with Sammo himself in which he gave a very different account of his "challenge match" with Bruce Lee. In short, either you need to work on your reading & comprehension skills or ... you're making shit up.
@@BRUCEJJ66 lol your literally one of those people that if shown actual video evidence you still wouldn't believe it! And it is in his autobiography towards the end of the book but don't worry there are many other people that will know the truth! 😁
@@BRUCEJJ66 also Sammo at his old age now is being modest about the encounter but he used to be a BRUTAL martial artist that used to beat the living shit out out anyone where as all these other martial artists follow dance choreography! Moronic idiots like yourself that probably have a Bruce Lee tattoo can't accept the basic truth, an I know your probably in tears by now hahahahhaaha
As actors and the best movies my favorite was Van Damme.
This "who's better" nonsense really annoys me. I like them all. I couldn't care less about "who's better". And to think grown adults still have this childish almost caveman-like mentality about martial arts
Look at the ufc/MMA community. They are more worse than anyone else.
Playground banter.
It’s unfair to compare Bruce Lee to modern MMA fighters because the combat sport has evolved so much. And Bruce was way ahead of his time. But if he were to cross train today, we can only imagine how terrifying he would be.
I've been a fan of Tommy Carruthers' work since 2003, when the late Jesse Glover narrated over his training footage and gave him praise for his techniques and training. When Bruce's first student praises a martial artist, y'all definitely need to show him love.
And he's right about Bruce Lee as a martial artist. The thing is, Tommy Carruthers is self-taught, and he built up his initial skill by following the workouts presented in the book, Bruce Lee: The Art of Expressing The Human Body, even recreating some of the custom workout tools that Bruce used. Watch any of Tommy's vids, and you'll see the proof in the pudding that Bruce's research and workout notes were legit.
Has Mr. Carruthers competed in kickboxing or MMA?
@@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 No....MMA is a rule restricted sport with restriction on targets....Tommy trains in Original JKD which involves no rule resrictions or limits on targets....Totally different things. One is a competitive endurance contest to entertain an audience...The other is practical survival in life threatening situations.
@@walterevans2118 I hear you but I think every JKD guy would get absolutely destroyed in the MMA even if they were allowed to kick balls. JKD or krav maga is still great for self-defense though because most people cannot afford to train more complex techniques for years and years. There are honest wing chun guys and the like who have been to MMA though and they have been beaten up in seconds but at least they did not make excuses; if you cannot kick a guy in the leg before being knocked out or taken down you cannot kick him in the balls either.
@@walterevans2118 BTW just because you practice JKD does not mean you cannot compete in some sport. There are even martial arts like European jujutsu where they practice eye and groin strikes but also organize competitions where you are only allowed to use judo, BJJ and kickboxing. That competition is probably very helpful for honing skill under stress.
@@miesvaillanykyisyytta3252 Even if they were allowed to do groin strikes ? .....Have you ever seen how fast Tommy's IFO students can hit the groin after sensing weight shift in an opponent ? Original JKD applies ECONOMY to decisive target so sudden & direct that wide arc circular movements like in Krav maga would not stand a chance...Too telegraphic.
To answer the question....
YES!
Screen wise....fuckin JACKIE CHAN ALL DAY EVERYDAY! CHAN MY HERO!
I love Jackie, too, at least his classic movies (from, say, 1978 to 1994), wouldn't want to bring up his political affiliations or family life, but Jackie's easily one of the all-time great action movie stars, he's earned his place in the film history books, but Bruce paved the way for Jackie as the 1st international Asian martial arts movie star (and Jackie knows that). Also, Jackie was smart enough to realize he needed to be very different from Bruce Lee (more comedic, more physical comedy, playing more of an every man, underdog type) to escape always being compared to a "legend", Jackie insisted on being his own persona, to his credit.
To answer the question Absolutely!!!
Those who can tell how good Bruce Lee was are the real Figthers like Chuck Norris or Joe Lewis.
Here's a clip with Joe Lewis... saying something.
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The character from the Street Fighter series of fighting video games, Ken Masters, was based upon Joe Lewis.