The Parents Are Alt-Right: The Conservative Anti-school Iceberg
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- In this video I discuss the conservative anti-school school iceberg, in which on the surface it looks like the right just wants to reform public schools, but it’s all under the guise to take away childrens’ privacy and to put an end to free public education for all.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro/Thesis
2:12 Part 1: What radicalized the parents?
13:58 Part 2: The Legislation
- Don’t Say Gay Bill
- Stop WOKE Act
- Parents’ Bill of Rights
- Project 2025
29:38 Part 3: Proper Homeschooling vs. Everything Else
- “free schooling”
36:34 Conclusion
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References:
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Tags:
Parents rights, parents bill of rights, parental rights, public education, department of education, project 2025, 2024 election, trump, ron de santis, florida, stop woke, video essay, political commentary
As a teacher, I scoffed so hard at the line in the parents bill of rights ensuring the right to meet the teacher twice a year. I can’t get most parents on the phone twice (or even once) a year. We want parents to be involved. It’s so frustrating when parents treat us like the enemy when we are trying to be a team.
Seriously...parent-teacher conferences are typically built into the school year for public schools. Just bc they couldn't bother to meet the teachers doesn't mean it wasn't happening.
I thought the same thing! The building is so empty on parent-teacher conference days.😢
P@@ariesmry
@@ariesmry yeah i remember they would allot days (typically two and a half) where technically students were off but parents and teachers would be doing meetings together
@@Samxdannytxr what do you teach?
As a librarian, I’m honestly so sick and tired of a generation of parents disrespecting teachers, wanting library book bans, which then in turn makes the kids hard to teach cause they’re obviously not going to care what we say or tell them. We wonder why Gen Alpha doesn’t respect teachers and other staff? It’s because their parents also look down on us and think we are the devil.
blame tiktok teachers?
@@bevs9995both you and OP make valid points
@@darthtyranous4514 I dont blame Tiktok Teachers at all, actually --- TikTok teachers also got on Tiktok and exposed the fact that , "These Kids Cant Read."
❤ agreed it needs to stop and Thank you for what you do it means a lot to the kids
@@bevs9995I blame parents letting their kids on TikTok. They cry about social media but they raise tablet babies.
As a teacher who worked in a rough district, watching for signs of abuse is paramount to our ability to care for children and ensure a quality education. Not being allowed to ask a student why they have bruises or why a strange man dropped them off at school or why their sibling isn't in class that day is so so so important to catch and prevent abuse! All these laws do are endanger kids already in incredibly risky situations, just so a conservative, wealthy, white parent can control their child beyond the home. These policies will, no doubt, lead to an increase in sui**de, runaways, abuse, and homeless minors.
It will also result in truancy, higher dropout rates, lower literacy rates, and a generation of children who hate teachers and education.
Absolutely. Couldn't have said it better.
You're literally just doing Qanon shtick. There is not some mass epidemic of abused kids that you need to rescue. Stay away from pizza parlors!
That's the point.
@darksidegryphon5393 unfortunately, your probably right. After all, education seems to result in a more liberal voter base
the whole trans suicide rates were debunked.
the "sending your kid to a stranger" thing specifically is so wild to me because like... you can literally just talk to your kids teachers. you can get to know them. my teachers were never strangers to my parents because they made it their business to know the teachers at my school. it's really that simple.
Yes, but that would mean admitting that teachers are human
Shocking
Talking to ppl like 🥴ppl
It's like these people have never interacted with teachers when they themselves were kids
THIS every single year in elementary school my parents got a letter telling me whose class I was in, their plans for the year, their contact info, and an open invitation for my parents to reach out to them for any questions or concerns. Do parents just not care about that shit anymore?
@@beanbean8375 Yes, we did. But not about inappropriate issues!
I’m calling it now, if public schools are dismantled, then only those who can afford an education get one. And schools will be run by CEO’s, not principals.
Those private schools might end up being run by corporate board members instead of CEOs.
This kind of stuff is already happening, look at New Orleans
Up until the mid 1800s the United States education system was unironically set up like that. Only rich people could really get an education. But then, all of a sudden, society started to become a little bit more progressive once the first wave of public schools entered the fray. We need to fight to keep public schools available and well-funded! Everyone deserves to be educated.
I wonder what happens when nobody but those who can afford school are educated… hmm. Almost like violence and destabilization is the point. It turns the upper classes against the lower classes. The homelessness case is the same thing. I just wished these people realized that even though they might destroy millions of lives they will never be viewed as the good guys. There are just too many humans on the planet now for them to not be seen as what they are, the bourgeoisie
that has been the republicans plan for decades now ... republicans believe that black and brown people should be slaves ... .king trumpet will make it happen
I would like to add that with the loosening of child labor laws in some states, public schools being functionally useless and kids from low income families having no feasible option to get education might be by design
It’s definitely on purpose. And cutting social welfare programs is also part of that. When families lose their SNAP or other assistance to get by, the children will be forced to start yearning for the mines once again 😢 this adds on to the gov’t punishing poverty.
All of this! Yes! It’s terrifying
Oof that hurt because of how accurate it is. Removing the impact of school, imposing restrictions on women’s bodily autonomy, stripping the government of any and all social services creates an environment where NO social mobility is possible. Just people trapped in poverty and constantly going without.
I believe it. Someone also has to make money on private schools, and Charter schools are fighting to capture some of that government funding.
I'm a TA for special needs students and one of our girls started off at private school. She came to us for one year and we successfully brought her reading and math up 1.5 grade levels. Mom is sending her back anyway. To the private school that did not offer any services
Exactly, when people are uneducated then it's easy to lie to them and get them to vote for things counter to their interests. I see this all the time where low-income people vote for Republicans who cut social programs because they don't want "welfare queens" and say they didn't need those programs growing up, despite them being on food stamps and getting federal loans for housing.
i knew a girl in high school who said that when she was in middle school she had been caught kissing a girl in under the bleachers and when she had a meeting with her guidance counselor she begged her not to say it was a girl. she said if she was going to tell her parents, to just say it was a boy because her parents didn’t know she was bisexual. the guidance counselor didn’t listen and told her parents anyway and the girl said she had gotten one of the worst beatings of her life that day. it’s interesting that in therapy, a more private and intimate place than a classroom, there is patient confidentiality and protocols that restrict most information about a minor to their guardians but that isn’t the case at school.
Children are seen, and treated as, property in the United States. Therapy is private practice so parents can't really control what goes on there. But they CAN influence public schools since they're, well, publicly controlled. They can get on the board and make these rules that put children's lives in literal danger. These people will push too far...and they're not going to like the backlash when the rest of us have finally had enough.
That’s terrifying. I also had to beg my counselor not to put me to my mom; it’s a terrifying and humiliating experience! 😢
Jesus
It isn't the responsibility of the school to raise a child, it is the responsibility of a parent. If the parent is going to beat their child, the child will be taken by social services and given better parents. That is simply how it has to be, we can't have schools lying and withholding information from the 99% good parents. Thats a great way to guarantee more kids get messed up, having two authority figures play tug-of-war over them.
Nah this sounds hella made up
Mom's for Liberty nothing more than the 21st century version of The United Daughters of the Confederacy.
Nah they're all right
@@ml1209 no they are not.
@@RealityHasAWokeBias What's so bad about them?
@@ml1209 They don't want children to have a good education, they want to impose their religion onto everyone, they don't believe in a woman's right to bodily autonomy, they think that the simple existence of queer people equates to pornography... And that's just off the top of my head. There is literally no end to how terrible they are.
@@ml1209 UA-cam loves to auto delete comments so let's see if I can try this again. They are actively trying to make education worse for children, especially as it relates to sex ed which has been proven to decrease teen pregnancy and reduce STIs when taught in a thorough manner. They want to force their religion on everyone else and believe that we should live under a christian theocracy. They fundamentally oppose a woman's right to bodily autonomy and proliferate the lie that abortion is "killing babies".
There is so much more but this is just off the top of my head. They are a horrible group of people that want nothing more than to control the lives of others and make life for women and children as oppressive as possible.
Parents have always had access to their students curriculum before 2020. All they had to do was look up their state's education standards to get detailed benchmarks for their students' entire learning process k-12.
Exactly. In Spanish our teacher would put up the exact standards that they would get from our school district's website. Also my parents are teachers and they had to put up the standards in their classrooms.
Most gen x and millennial parents just don't really care enough to actually look it up or even ask the teacher what their kids are learning or how to look up the schedule. These are the same two generations that would constantly act like going to the parent teacher conference or helping kids with homework is the equivalent to "helicopter parenting" (not all, but many, based on the people I've personally met or I've seen online). There's no way that these same parents actually care enough to look up the curriculum or even check their kids' homework. They're very oblivious parents, and it's so normalized that they don't even think of it as being oblivious. It is truly astonishing.
They only "care" about what's going on in schools when the schools teach their kids something they personally don't agree with or when they need to find a way to villainize teachers.
@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662that’s really accurate to what I’ve seen in my experience especially when the media covers it. Furthermore to add to the book burning problem, most parents don’t really read the books or understand the material they wish to burn but read quotes taken out of context.
@@elizrebezilmadommdo1662to be fair my boomer parents wouldn't have bothered to look up the curriculum or schedule either lol. Their position was that the professionals who put the curriculum together knew better than them and viewed any parent who were more involved then them as "medling housewives with too much time on their hands". They did help with homework though.
You expect parents who send their kids to public schools to be bothered with doing any actual work in their kids' educations?
The thing about trans/gay children being outed to their parents hits really close to home for me as I had a close trans friend who had changed their name to their preferred name among the students and teachers, the school had agreed not to inform their parents about it because they knew of my friend's parents being very transphobic. One teacher decided to out my friend during a parent-teacher interview, my friend was physically and verbally abused and almost thrown out of their house. They didn't return to school the next semester, they'd taken their own life. Rest in peace.
This is horrifying! I'm so sorry about what happened. People are so cruel... May they rest in peace.
May the rest in peace.
I'm so sorry to hear that. That is so disturbing. It is evil. I am a Christian, a genuine Christian. So, I know that God is love, not hate. Bigoted people are either psychopaths or deceived by psychopaths.
God ensured that I was always very close to many gender nonconforming people so that I would see through the lies of those with evil hearts. In fact, the first person I can think of was my favorite uncle who became my favorite aunt in 1972 following her surgery.
So, for several years, it has been my calling to be an ally who stands against the hate and for love of all people. I even explain to LGTBQ+ young people who are being persecuted by their religious right parents that they aren't wrong, hateful people are wrong.
It is heartbreaking to see so many hateful people leading others in the wrong direction. And is devastating to see young people like your friend choose to take their lives because they feel so unloved.
Know that your friend is with God now. Your friend is absolutely loved. The only people who can't be with God are those with hateful hearts. They push themselves away from God because God is love. God can't tolerate hatefulness but they will find that out in the future, when it is their time for their consciousness to leave their bodies and travel to the other world.
If you know of any young person who I can help, please feel free to let me know. You can also let them know that the Trevor Project and the Human Rights Campaign are there to help them. This should never happen to any young person.
God bless you. ❤
@@DiNY-u9k I’m glad you are here!
@@DiNY-u9k Thank you so much. This warmed my heart, I'm so glad to see people like you. God bless you too.
If parents genuinely cared about their kids' mental health, theyd be against forcing a school to out students against their will. Kids get beaten over that. Kids get disowned as minors. Maybe you wouldnt do that if your kid was gay, and fine, thanks for doing the bare minimum. But other parents will. You may get a couple good years out of heavily indoctrinating your children, but once they hit the point of becoming an adult and moving away, they will probably realize how horrible the things you beat into their brain are, and grow resentment over not having privacy, respect, or genuine love given to them while growing up.
I have one more axe to grind rq with Rhonda Santis. "Cultural Marxism" is a literal nazi phrase. It means the exact same thing as culture bolshevism. And this "woke mind virus" he speaks so spitefully about, the word means *nothing* now, because the far right takes words like "woke" and overuses them intentionally for the purpose of taking all power away from the word or phrase. When a word can mean everything, it means nothing.
Besides, if your child didn't feel safe enough with you to come out of the closet to you already, that's on you as a parent.
@@rishabhanand4973 precisely. I'm glad some sane people exist still.
::leans over and whispers::
children get murdered over being queer still. some kids will die because of these rules...
Mental health is forcing a child to believe they’re secretly a woman
Whatever happened to parents who don't give a crap what you do in school because they think school is a babysitter LOL
They're mad that their kids form opinions of their own
@@sourgreendolly7685 and child abuse is illegal now kids are allowed to have opinions without getting the crap beat out of them so that's good
Although religion is trying to ruin that among many things....
@@daysofthebooeh the system is too underfunded and overcrowded for that to stop it from happening completely. that said, beating doesn't work - that's why they want to limit their kids' exposure to new ideas
That's most parents tbh
@@daysoftheboowhere'd you get that idea from? Child abuse is legal throughout MOST of the US, as long as the marks aren't seen.
Parents think they own their children instead of seeing them as their own unique person. That IS your child but you don’t own them
But they do own them until they’re 18, and the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree anyway. What’s the problem brony?
@@0xmno they are responsible for them. Parents don't own their kids.
@@0xmthe problem is a parent isn't entitled to having a clone through the child.
Exactly. Right-wing rhetoric is consistent with viewing children as property. They don't care about the well-being of children for its own sake, they care about how they can grant or withhold the well-being of children to maintain control.
@@simonholmes841that part…..it’s just abuse by another means
The idea of my parents looking over my shoulder to see what I was learning in school would have mortified me. Imagine having to defend your teacher for trying to make you think independently to a parent who wants you to be controllable. It sounds like a horror movie plot.
i’m going to push back on this slightly, bc in many school districts they teach questionable things in social studies class. i substitute taught a class in virginia where i had to give a standardized test; the test had been written by lockheed martin (yes, the military airplane manufacturer) and the questions suggested that the kids had been taught that robert e lee was an honorable general who cared about his men, and wasn’t motivated by slavery at all. this was in a liberal part of virginia too. if i were a parent of one of those kids and saw that, i’d absolutely object
Coming to children and teaching them that you can choose to be a girl or a boy depending on your mood is wrong.
@@BroJo676 telling a child they have a right to express themselves freely is... not wrong.
@@BroJo676 telling a child they have a right to express themselves freely is... not wrong.
@@mhm3766 Expressing yourself freely and deciding to transition just because you feel different are basically two very different things. Somebody’s gender dysphoria should only be validated after a clinical diagnosis. Right now, it is a trend.
during the pandemic, i tutored a kid whose parents were obviously anti vaxx and anti mask. he would get extremely irritable, didnt want to do any work, until his mom screamed at him from the kitchen. he was so difficult to work with because he just wanted to argue about everything. "i dont want that sticker" "you better give me that one instead" "i dont want to read that, dinosaurs arent real". when we went back to in person, he would wear his mask only on his mouth and then one day he just took it off and screamed "my mom doesnt want me to wear this. so im not going to" and i could never get him to wear it again. his head seemed like it was being filled with so much dissent at only age 7, it was sad. he was so smart too, so it was a shame
ONLY I MAY FEED MY CHILD INAPPROPRIATE PROPAGANDA.
This is sad. The kids of these parents are going to have a real tough time functioning in the world. The majority of the world actively dislikes these "opinions". I don't personally dislike dissent or resistance if a kid has logical steps to get where they are. Using your sticker example: "I don't want the green one. Don't give me the green one. I want the blue one because blue is my favorite color." Like...I can't really argue with that logic. But to sit there and make demands for no other reason than to be difficult? "Mom, dad, you'll need to find a different tutor who can handle your child's personality. I'm not going to be able to help him in any way at this point in time."
They'll be singing a different tune when they're stuck with their sh***y kid all day with no one to actually teach them real information. They'll be stuck with that kid well into adulthood when no one wants to deal with them as an adult too...
Some people mistake blanket contrarianism and dissent as equal to rebellious/anti-establishment critical thinking. But sometimes they are just being stubborn to the point of being impossible to work with, denying any sort of ability to interact with new information. They don’t know how to compromise, or are actively barring themselves from being considerate. Even little kids who can’t get exactly what they want, like blue sticker v green sticker. They have to learn to make concessions and accept certain realities rather than throw tantrums at every slight. So insane when you see adults who haven’t overcome this delusional sense of entitlement.
Like I babysit kids and I have to teach them they can’t always get exactly what they want. They are very egocentric, but for the sake of co-existing, they need to learn to be more aware of other people. How to be polite, how to be kind. How to handle disappointment. You can’t snatch toys out of other kids’ hands. You can’t kick another kid in the head to push them off the couch. Basic human skills 👍 lol but that’s also why I’m a little concerned about homeschooling bc yes, you get to avoid some of the crazy of public school, but you miss out on important lessons in social cohesion. But everyone develops differently. Sometimes some stuff is too overwhelming to be constructive. Sometimes you gotta bear with it. Delicate and imperfect balance for all parents to explore.
Ans as it turns out, anti-covid-"vax" and anti mask was the right way to go.
I’m European and in a lot of Europe homeschool is illegal because it has legally been decided that it does not provide students with the same as public school. Also parents who homeschool are seen as being abusive towards their children as they give them a lower quality of life and disadvantages them as adults
We should make it illegal too
There are contexts where the parents can provide a healthier education for their kids than the school system can, but I do agree that in many contexts (especially “I only need to teach my kid religion” contexts) the parents will stunt their children as adults
That seems oppressive by the government. Having them be a nanny state is a terrible idea.
Plenty of homeschooling is fine. Don't poison the well because of religious people who would also harm public schools just as much.
To be fair, in Europe, kids are seen as people, not property. We can't begin to change anything in America about kids lives and wellbeing until we admit kids are people with needs. They need food, shelter, education, love, and a network of support of peers/friends, parents/guardians, and educators. Without these they don't thrive. In America, kids around the country are going without some or many of these things.
it’s legal here in the UK so not all of Europe
I’m so glad that my parents didn’t have that much control over my life as a kid. Yes, they were strict when I was 11 and under, which i think is normal, but when I went into teenage years I was given space to read and search topics that were “sinful” according to the conservative country I grew up in.
If I didn’t have space to explore and learn, I wouldn’t be the person I am today.
i dont have kids, and im a believer in gentle/responsive parenting and Montessori.
both of them are very non-authoritarian, and focus on teaching the child where they are at and providing structure to help foster a kids interests and education.
I’m in college to become a social studies teacher and the most dumbfounded I’ve ever been in a class was when one of my professors said that “education and schooling is not a right in America.” like it’s not in the federal Constitution, no bills have been passed by Congress, etc. I’d just never heard someone say it so bluntly and it’s really horrifying. some states do have it as a right, which is gladdening but still. I’m very thankful to live in Minnesota, which at times feels like an island in the Midwest, especially in regards to education - our governor was a fucking teacher for 15 years !!!!! anyways, yeah. just a lot.
Teach students about class consciousness out of spite
The reason it isn't in the Constitution is because the rights in the Constitution are natural rights. You can never have a natural right to anything which requires someone else's labor or money. Government granted "rights" are no such thing, because if the government gives it to you, they can just as easily take it away. Every state has a law requiring children to be educated, though the age/grade requirements may be different.
You can't have a "right" to something that requires materials or labor according to classical legal theory. Nobody has a right to bricks, mortar, blackboards, books, pencils, or teachers' labor.
It's so disrespectful to educators. Teachers are not servants who teach your children only the lessons you order them to teach, they're trained professionals who have a specialized skill. My mom did not earn a master's degree and spend over 20 years continuing to educate herself on history, English, class room management, specific techniques for academically struggling students, and the psychology of learning while working full time for some parent with zero expertise in any of these subjects to interfere with her lesson plans because they think they can do her job better than her.
And?
@@0xm and don't be a little bitch that's what, if you don't wanna get your ass in school and become a teacher yourself, sit the hell down
@@elliart7432 Credentialism is cool and all but the results speak for themselves: There's more money now in public education than ever before and scores are trending lower year by year.
Right!! These parents are getting ridiculous 😅
@@elliart7432 sorry your mom wasted her time
The desire to not expose a kid to what public education can teach them fits into a basal conservative belief regarding control. To them, their children are simply extensions of themselves that must bend and conform to their wills and ego. Not an actual living life that can become their own person with their own experiences.
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That part
If only there was some sort of conference where parents can meet with the teachers so they wouldn't be "strangers."
🤔
when i was in high school, i covered the school board for my school newspaper. my main reason for doing it was to show students what was going on and that they are able to give their input. i was getting so fed up with the parents being the only voices the board heard.
there was this facebook group of parents that was like moms for liberty combined with other groups like it. in 2022, they decided to run against the incumbent school board members to push their rhetoric from the inside. when i was doing research on these people (aka looking through facebook), i was so frustrated with what i saw. these people are against SOCIAL EMOTIONAL LEARNING. they were talking about their opponents like middle schoolers. they attacked the TEACHERS UNION for supporting candidates that weren’t them.
all but one lost (thank god), but if they had all won, they would have had the majority and could pass whatever they wanted to. they say “keep politics out of the classroom!” but everything they want to do is politically motivated.
I also was a student avocate in for my high school board. At the time, they wanted to do away the "Arts" and only focus on "STEM" classes, just after a bunch of other students and some parents had to fight to keep our orchestra to save cost and time. And were the "better school" in the district with the most funds. Although not political, a lot of parents were all for dismantling classes, while being unaware of its ramifications.
@@JackTheBlindOrganistAndCrepey the thing is Art education can help kids learn more creative ways to solve problems, help with cognitive development, and can make STEM concepts and lessons easier to grasp, and more interesting for students.
also, Art is has been a major part of the human condition for longer than there have been people. (at least homosapians, there is plenty of evidence that Neandertals have made art, and some evidence to suggest that art has been made before either Neandertals or modern humans existed made by our evolutionary ancestors.
@@Reverend_Salem
Not to mention, these classes were our outlet. Music and art was my hobby. And I know some students did these classes as extracurriculars to get away from a crappy home life and be somewhat productive in the own way. I am also interested in STEM, but the world is more than just that. That definitely woke me up to how school can be factory meant to make more worker drones instead of providing enrichment for students. It's not the teachers guys it's the administrators and above. And schools shouldn't be so underfunded either.
If the parents' first time knowing their child's curriculum was because of a pandemic, the parents are the problem, not the schools.
Thank you.
Conservatives dont actually care about their kids till they need an excuse to prove how conservative they are. Hence why they have no idea about anything their kids learn and think LGBTQ topics will turn them LGBTQ. They dumb
im a child abuse victim and while this is an absolute nightmare. as a kid i loved school BECAUSE of how different my teachers were to my parents. i felt loved needed and encouraged to learn. its funny these people act like queer people are abusing children but arent allowing said children to have the help that could save their lives.
not teaching children about oppression doesnt mean they wont learn. it just means they will learn via harm done to them based on these prejudices which they will internalize as their own fault
The “oppression” starts with kids being taught to believe they’re not a man. How is it saving their lives. If they are really “transgender” and school “helps” them “realize” that, and the “abuse” from “anti-queer” parents are real, then why fucking teach them it at all? And if you say the child abuse was simply being spanked I’m gonna lose it.
@@0xmThank you for providing us with such a stark contrast between their real and heartfelt retelling of trauma and how to learn grow from it opposed to your utter fantasy of abuse conservative media likes to pretend is happening.
@@melonthemelons Those queers are just punk weirdos in 80s and 90s
Same here! This motivated me to study psychology, which is my current major, and I’ve seen conservatives call psychology and mental health “satanic” and “stupid” and it really makes me upset.
I’m reminded of that Game of Thrones quote that said something to the effect of, “When you cut out a man’s tongue, you’re not proving him a liar, but you’re proving that you’re afraid of what he has to say.”
That PART…
They don’t see the psychopathy or sociopathic narcissist in their ways because that’s all they know is the literal Psychopathy of it….its a death cult mentality is homicidal and suicidal
True👍
They want to ignore history so they can repeat it.
They’re doing a darned good job of repeating, too
The fear of neofascism (doesn’t exist outside of fringe groups, as much as commies like to be melodramatic and act like it does) literally killed a few good thousand kids and produced the the most disturbing audio tape I have ever heard, but sure
Facts are a threat to Reactionaries. If people are wise to their true intentions, then the Reactionaries will be exposed as the monsters they have always been.
Uhhh it was democrats that fought for slavery and Jim crow
@@tiffparz8749at least until their child is the one ending up in the jobs that were supposed to be for "other people's " children.
And then they shatter
I just hate that they think they can control what other people’s children learn. The level of entitlement is something else
What do you think a school board does?
@@mo.ka.9661 parents are not a school board. Parents should not be the ones in control
@@Jabberwocky112 "Muh democracy" until you realize people who disagree also have policies they want passed.
@@thinkharder9332 maybe the policies instilled by teachers regarding education should be taken more seriously than a random Joe. I’m not listening to a random Joe about medicine why should we about education?
@@Jabberwocky112 IDK maybe the teachers who've seen test scores decline while their funding (including per student and adjusted for inflation) increases aren't the ones who actually know.
Seriously, what have they produced? The US public education system, which is widely acknowledged as sub par.
Incidentally, this is basically Pink Floyd's 'Another Brick In The Wall: Part II', on reverse!
"Hey, Parents! Leave Teachers Alone!"
Parents should also let their kids be whoever they are.
.. I don't think Pink Floyd were arguing in favor of becoming a "another brick in the wall" .. which is essentially what public teachers have been contributing to... LOL.
"we don't need no education. we don't need no thought control."
@@alphago9397 I... do not think you quite understand what I was going for here.
@@user-pc3we6gf6j why would we leave one of the easiest job having people alone? They let kids get bullied, abused and harassed under their supervision. They withhold information while supposedly being educators. They get more benefits than basically any other work group but whine endlessly about how they need more. We are just prols to them
@@Eli_the_fiendright ? And it’s really not that hard to do… what is wrong with people ?!
I'm surprised parents are acting like they give a crap about what their kids are learning, usually these parents/guardians would just load their kids off to be "looked after" by underpaid teachers.
Keyword being "acting"
A lot of these groups aren’t even actual parents. They’re political “activists”
Project 25 can not be allowed to be implemented. Things are bad enough.
It’s a great motivation to outright revolt
@@qjtvaddictlol you guys still think you’re the minority, that’s cute, soon there will be a libertarian or conservative American revolution, the right is sick of this shit
@@qjtvaddicteh we’re running out of options slowly so let’s leave that option when even voting doesn’t seem to be a viable option
@@0xm”I’m sad that not everyone is white, male, christian, and wealthy!! 😥”
@@0xm Stop being a manchild and actually grow up
No one in the right mind sees people fighting for their right and thinks "oh no im being oppressed"
I've seen this in Peru as a movement called "Con mis hijos no te metas" ("Don't mess up with my kids"). It started as an movement of parents worried that schools teaching sex-ed may turn their kids gay.but it actually happens to be funded by the daughter of a former dictator, hence they keep lobbying for parents to have a say in what history textbooks say.
Worse thing is that those 'concerned parents' seem to be wealthy enough so they can put their kids in a private school, and yet, they still want to screw public education! (already screwed by the decades of awful governments).
Would that Peruvian dictator you're referring to be Alberto Fujimori?
@@samwindmill8264 Yes
@LON009 it's odd, I don't know too much about Peru but I do know about Fujimori and also about the opposing Shining Path group. I was a bit surprised to find that Peru had such a prominent Japanese diaspora in the first place
@@samwindmill8264 Yes, more a 110 years since the first Japanese came to Peru.
About Fujimori, he gained much approval by capturing the Shining Path leader. Still, he also committed human rights violations, most notably the forced sterilization of indigenous women, and the disappearance of university students, back then believed to be terrorists.
@@samwindmill8264 theres this terrible youtuber named Zvallid, and in one of his videos Angela Merkel imposed Fujimori's daughter as Peru's puppet leader. Like wts
As a Brazilian this is so absurd, parents want to stop children from thinking for themselves. There are problems in education here, but we at least value it.
As a kid, I never felt unsafe at home but I couldn’t imagine not having the chances I had to build a sense of trust in other adults at such a vulnerable time in my life. Thank you for this video and the great research!
It's always about control. They want full control over their children to the point of limiting their future options.
I find it ironic how a group of people who claim to be small governent make the most big government policies ever.
I had no idea how big the anti school thing was in the USA, wtf... this was such a great and informative video (as always) thanks for all the work you do! Privatization of schools would be an absolute nightmare, in the same way of private Healthcare, it just hurts everyone
It's because the left has gone insane and they are teaching nonsense stuff
Why would the government care about a "parents' bill of rights" when they clearly don't care about the actual Bill of Rights?
I've been down the unschooling rabbit hole recently so I was really looking forward to this video.
Thanks for all your hard work! 🌸🙏
This is a hard topic for me. I hated going to school, it was just wrong for me. I had undiagnosed ADHD and dyslexia. My teachers were too overworked to give me the attention I needed, I was bullied by teachers and students, and when I got my report cards, my single parent’s response was to verbally abuse me into submission.
When I was in 7th grade, my parent pulled me out to homeschool me because of bullying and bad grades. This included getting my own textbooks! This was the greatest year for my education. I googled all the answers to my math tests, but I read my American history book from cover to cover. It wasn’t perfect, but it gave me a love of learning I have yet to drop.
I do not support the politically motivated movement for parents rights, if anything I think parents should have less rights. Children should have more rights, and be observed enough to diagnose learning disabilities and be protected from abuse; at home and at school. They should be able to choose the subjects they want to study and do so at their own pace. Grading is an outdated and insufficient method of education benchmarking.
Learning is a lifelong journey, not a set of memorizations in a sweatshop factory setting.
I appreciate the thought provoking video and I hope we somehow work our way out of this mess for the children of the future!
I agree with you. However, the school is the first one to say, "You're being too flexible with your child."
This is a perfectly valid reason to homeschool. I wish the government would fund mental health care. It’s just absurd that we can’t seem to figure out how to do that and provide what kids like you needed in a public space.
This is a huge reason why I probably won’t send my own children to public school if I ever have any. No thank you.
I went to high school and ended up realizing how much homeschooling taught me to think for myself and self-study. I faired much better in college because of that too.
Of course I was one of the lucky ones with liberal parents who valued education highly, so that does help.
I’m all for curriculums and whatnot, but kids need to learn the best way they know how, and I strongly feel that you did that.
I’m sorry you got bullied in school, especially by teachers 😡, that’s awful.
@@kaylynn4750 Thank you 💙
Child's right to privacy reminded me of those spaces within the school environment where children experience sovereignty. Places like the middle of the playing field, the remote corner of the library, a garden, or the upper levels of a climbing structure. Places where the adults' authority doesn't quite reach. As kids, they were bastions of true freedom, and as an adult & and a teacher, they are territories I treat with respect.
Great video! Having grown up in the American public school system, even in a liberal area, the amount of erasure of racism, genocide, and colonialism that is justified and celebrated by the common core curriculum was crazy… so to hear that people are trying to make it WORSE is so terrifying…
True, but we were also raised to have the capacity to think and look for answers later in life. I remember these same inedaquacies being taught in one of the best public high schools in the country. But the reason I have the capacity as an adult to realize I was taught a white-washed version of history was because of the emphasis on "critical thinking". They may basically lie to you, but they'll also give you what you need to recognize the lie. It's not perfect, but I'm also not a braindead far right conservative because of my ability to think critically.
Dude…. WHAT genocide? Israel fighting against terrorists? Why the fuck are you commies mad about erasure of racism? Commies mask off over here
Strict parents just raise sneaky kids. Kids will do whatever they want. It's my firm belief that the responsibility of a parent is to let your kids do stupid things in a safe environment, and provide the safety net/teachable moment for when they inevitably face the concequences of their decisions
They're so annoying honestly. They should mind their own business instead of annoying everyone. If they don't like what their schools are teaching, maybe they should move to another country?
Degen
That’s literally how they got HERE in the first place 🤷🏿….😂…..same people Different Century
@@0xm I don’t gamble sorry…
@@0xm Congrats on describing yourself
Then: Parents get mad at student for bad grade.
Now: Parents get mad at teacher for bad grade.
@@jarekgunther cuz it turns out teachers ain't really teaching shit and all the school boards seem to do is cover for their incompetence.
Meh grades are bad to begin with. Be mad at a terrible school infrastructure and system instead.
Nah, it's more like parents get mad at teacher for not being a daycare and actually teaching their kids
@@pur3chao56 teaching bullshit you mean. You ever bothered to look at the dumb shit like "common core"?
As I get older the more this one comment seems to make sense
"Kids are the victims of every adults ego"
Phonics would be a great way to teach reading if English-speaking countries had the guts to do spelling reform like other languages
I agree that English needs spelling reform but you can still teach phonics without it and it's still the best way to learn to read
And when I was learning to read they combined it with Sight words. Short words they had us memorize so we could recognize them visually.
English is too dumb
Phonics is still the most crucial component of literacy instruction, even with our crazy spelling system. I agree about spelling reform though. Language that have that end up with higher fluency rates. Tradition versus logic in the US: logic is gonna lose.
@@haveialigned how bout instead of "reform" you just learn to fucking spell.
People use to say, if parents were allowed to complain and nitpick about everything or anything they disagree with about teachers or lessons, then nobody would learn anything since teachers would be constantly catering to each child and parent differently would take up time and it’s impossible. Also, kids and parents do not need to be texting each other all day long. Crazy what’s happening.
Wait. . . Are parents actually texting their kids in school? Like expecting responses right away type of text
@@taleseylad1249yes unfortunately
@@kaylynn4750 I was wondering because my mom will only expect me to respond if I'm not in school.
So, this whole movement is pretty much a repeat of that classic saying, "Do as I say, not as I do"?
One of the biggest things I feel conservatives are missing is that their kids aren’t telling them things like social transition for as reason. If your kid isn’t telling you about that you’re doing something wrong
Right? And now we got to make it everyone’s problem? That’s a problem between you and your child. Figure it out on your own time. Don’t drag the rest of us into it
@@sk8trrr_ yeah, namely cuz your kid knows the parent is a transphobic asshole and is probably scared they’ll be hurt by them. It sucks; parents like this are just blinded to the selfishness and harm they’re putting onto their very vulnerable kids.
Ignorance is a fertile ground for nationalism and fascism
What's wrong with Nationalism?
Yup.
The USA is anti-intellectual
Can I also emphasise: as a uni student wanting to become a teacher (HS level), I want to do everything I can to regain the trust that schools have lost lately because i saw their importance in a lot of my school peers’ lives as a “(sort-of)third space”, a conversation that’s been resurfacing a lot, I’ve noticed. I’m trying to take as many life lessons as I can towards my future classrooms, so I’m imploring future parents to please respect, trust, and converse to those of us who have put so much work and sacrifice towards making your children the best they can be, and yes I agree that it can be away from grades and into their own endeavours. I’d love it if there were more videos available from our perspectives as “future teachers” but am glad this is sort of a first step into the wide attacks into the education system, a vast majority of which are completely unfounded (my opinion) [also for the record it’s not just America; in NZ I’ve noticed so much of what was discussed in this video so plz stop hating schools 😭😭 ]
Honestly this is just a different flavor of moral panic. Almost all the hand wringing about kids is highly exaggerated concerns, usually using kids as a mask for other issues, like “why don’t my kids blindly believe the exact same thing as me?”
Or in Idaho, where they’ve managed to make it illegal for libraries to let minors in without a parent present. Liberty, amiright?
The library 📚 WTF
I mean I feel like it should be recommended to bring parents but not required. If the library is close to someone’s home they can easily have an access to a third place, which we’re desperately in need of. I would hope that libraries do have a strict age policy regarding what books a child reads or checks out.
Eventually those kids are just going to use the library's apps to digitally access and read the books they want.
Even then, parents would neglect their child and not check what book a child is reading...and then complain when a child reads a book that is clearly made for adults.
Like the book equivalent of parents who buy GTA for their kids and then get mad about the inappropriate content despite the M rating being very visible.
Entitlement mentality is so strong among certain parents.
Homeschooling leftist here with a masters in education and six years of k-12 teaching experience. Also former school librarian for 3 years. It’s…wild how many of my homeschooling peers are conspiracy theorists and also want to take money away from public schools so they can get money in stipends. I, as a homeschooling mom and teacher, always ask if they still want to live in an educated society.
Being a conspiracy theorist just means you're not an idiot.
@@MrDucksBillreally? Because last time I checked schools aren't putting litter boxes in bathrooms for furries but for service animals that some students have.
@@MrDucksBillfar from it. You’re delusional, essentially. Especially for half of the existing conspiracy theories with lukewarm evidence.
@@MrDucksBill Yeah, it means that you are a deranged hopeless heap of society.
@@MrDucksBill Oh yeah the flat earth and anti-evolution bitches aren't idiots despite the fact WE HAVE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE! Sure whatever "smart one"
I escaped an Evangelical home and home schooling is dangerously able to hide abuse. Children deserve to have someone acting as an advocate for the child with a fiduciary responsibility to the child, if not a teacher someone else to see the children daily. No child should go years without someone from outside their group seeing them.
That's a good point.
This all is an example of perhaps the most nefarious conservative tactic: making their stuff look good at face value. This stuff on its face appears to be reasonable and even good. It's only when you know the context and the intended style of use that you realize the true meaning and goal. It makes those pushing back start from a disadvantage as you don't just have to point out the bad stuff, you have to start by discrediting the positive image their language giv3es off before you can even get to the problem.
I feel like this stuff happens when children are viewed as a parent's property and not an individual with thoughts and feelings of their own
That’s still a popular idea. In a profit run world almost anything is only seen by the value it brings.
While i know theres people who aren’t like that, the fact that it does exist frankly bothers me. Prioritizing results over the process and outcome of the people involved.
Banger title, can’t wait to watch the video !
when i was 14-15, i was having an anti-public school phase and indoctrinated myself into believing that christians were persecuted and it was illegal to pray in school. i unironically believed that we should force christianity in schools and break the seperation of church and state law. i still hate myself for having an anti-public school phase that one year. at least for all the wrong reasons. I almost failed school on purpose because of it, to the point where i had to move to a new school and somehow got away with it. after that i successfully pretended i wasnt completely stupid, tried to be normal, even though the embarrassment and low self esteem still haunted me. i slowly let go of my old beliefs and realized it was just a phase. i regretted that one bad year ever since. im glad i didnt drop out and still graduated in the end. ever since i moved to a new school i promised myself that my biggest dream is to be fucking normal for once and be as rooted in reality as much as possible. til this day nobody really knows why i was acting out. til this day i dont think my family will ever understand.
I was an educator for 18 years (now disabled from LC) in both urban and rural schools and have most of a doctorate in curriculum development. I am HERE for this video. The right has been coming after education for years and covid accelerated it. I’m honestly a little relieved to have be observing rather than living through it.
I'm Nordic, so the American school system is overall on thin ice from my personal perspective. But this movement is beyond ridiculous. Education, just like science and wisdom, is supposed to progress past each previous generation. You're kinda supposed to learn to ever increase and refine the knowledge you received in school, and internalize the crucial fact that most things were taught to you purposely simplified for the sake of you in whatever age being able to recieve and process it. You're supposed to realize that behind each of those subjects, behind each singular topic, is a whole field of study you do not know the complexities of without looking into it, and even then the actual experts will simply know more than you do. _Nothing_ is as simple as you were taught in school so no new refining or even contradictory information should make you go "Um, actually, in school I learned that..." or "that's against basic biology" or whatever.
I've been saying for years now that what working age adults need is a periodical review course of basic knowledge past their primary education. It always makes me want to crawl out of my skin out of cringe whenever an older person references their bare minimum school knowledge against new information. "That's not what they taught us in school back in my day!" "They didn't have that kind of class when I was your age." "We weren't allowed to say this and that about our country." You don't fucking say! Have you not learned anything at all after middle school? Are you categorically refusing any knowledge we've gained about the world and humanity since? Is it bad that we as a sivilization have more power of knowledge and means to speak for ourselves? Is it bad that your children are learning to be more understanding and empathetic than you? Do people not get their kids will - and are supposed to - surpass them in general up to date knowledge and skills? What on earth went wrong with these people?? This regressive anti-educational horseshit is incredibly embarrassing. Idiocracy at its finest.
But that's the thing about conservatism. Things are just supposed to stay the way they are, preferably regress rather. So whatever the kids are being taught in school today can't possibly be because we understand things better, know more and are more open for previously suppressed matters. It's clearly nothing to do with how we are supposed to prepare each generation to be better than what we've managed. No, it's because of a malicious agenda against the basic facts of life, as in what I personally happen to know and believe because I am the great measuring stick of humanity. "Basic" this and that (as in the school subjects, not the actual 101 of said field of study) can't just change, right? If they say I'm wrong about something, it can't possibly be that I lack knowledge or empathy, it's an attack on me and what I stand for, an assault on my intelligence and ego.
And people like this are reproducing... God bless these kids.
Nobody who doesn't comprehend the difference between pedagogy and science/basic knowledge should have a say in matters of general education. Not to mention anybody who doesn't even recognize the word.
As someone who just recently graduated, i am worried ill be among one of the last people to get an actually good education
I still vividly remember when Pastor Greg Locke publicly burned books.
When Fascism does come to America, it will be wrapped in the Flag and carrying a Cross.
You haven't gotten a good education. Don't be passive about it; educate yourself. That's what libraries are for
You have to remember there are periods of American history where this kind of thing happened before. There was a worse version of this movement in the 50s, which resulted in the Black Panther party and other radical groups forming community schools, after school centers and so on to counter rampant indoctrination that harmed their people.
You give way too much credit to the idea that the Moms For Liberty and other protestors are actually parents at these schools, and not outside agitators
Yes yes yes!!! It's the Tea Party astroturfing BS yet again!
I disagree on allowing parents taking kids out of public school being fine. Kids need to be around other kids and public school is vital for kids learning social tools. Without said social tools, their entire adult lives are significantly damaged.
I think you vital, not viral.
Not being in public school doesn't mean they don't socialize. Public schools can also prove harmful to social development as bullying has been an issue for decades and in it's worst forms results in suicide.
@@thinkharder9332that’s really depends on the parents and how they’re willing to socialize their child.
@@mariachi3217 No it really doesn't. Just being too different opens a kid to bullying no matter what their home life is like.
It CAN be positive, sure. But…Right, tell that to kids with developmental and mental disorders that don’t connect well with “normies” because they aren’t understood. Public school doesn’t always provide a positive social environment for them.
I personally know a kid that was pulled out of a decent school because they were being relentlessly bullied for NO reason. To the point where they were suicidal and self-harming. They had been perfectly fine before middle school, and it all went to crap in 5th grade for them. I think this was because she is meek and very soft-spoken. She is doing so much better right now as a homeschooler and I’m very proud of her.
I also know there are kids that are minorities who are/were bullied in horrific ways for no reason other than they weren’t white, and the school did NOTHING or blamed it on the victim.
It really only works in a positive way if you’re “like everyone else.” That’s wrong on so many levels and should be discouraged.
Not to mention that we had a bomb threat or two when I was in high school. Thankfully, it ended up being a prank online, but terrifying! I wouldn’t want to be in public school right now with all that going on.
I wish it wasn’t like this, but it is. I wish school was a safe place for kids but it’s not.
One I am proud of, is that in Sweden, going to school is a civil duty. 9 years mandated.
All in order to foster responsible and educated citizens.
Same with plenty of other countries as well. China, Japan, South Korea, Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, etc. All requires that a child receive a mandatory duration of formal education and have a standardized national exams as a benchmark entry for future job prospect whatever it is for the public or private sector.
@@Duchess_Van_Hoof unfortunately, the us cares too much about WASP religious folks freedom to oppress and indoctrinate more than the freedom of their kids to learn separate from their parents ideals. The country would lose its marbles if they implemented this.
Sounds like indoctrination
@@mo.ka.9661 sounds like non privatized education
@@Jabberwocky112 smells like indoctrination. stop worshipping schools and do something else. you shouldn’t be forced to go
Just gotta say as someone who lives in NY, the bills introduced here had a snowball's chance in hell of being passed. Our legislature is 2/3 Democrat in both the House and the Assembly. The introduced bills never made it to a floor vote, they didn't get out of committee and the Republicans who introduced them had to know they wouldn't. No actions have been taken on the bills in over 2 years, they didn't even get a committee vote.
They should change the state motto from “Excelsior” to “F-Around And Find Out”
Conservatives need to take back NY. Disgusting seeing the beautiful state vandalized by progressives, especially because it’s a such a relic. I bet progressive will take down all the relics soon, because they’re repulsed by history,
I disagree about the anti-technology, pro-Waldorf school bit at the end. STEM is not the enemy, and Waldorf schools are breeding grounds for these alternative history, pseudo-science types. Otherwise great video 👍
I'm sorry they made you read twilight. The students at your school deserve better than that.
"His or her" if only there was a shorter way of saying that, but nooo thats woke
That’s been such a gripe with me because for centuries people have used They as singular especially when they don’t know how to address someone “oh they lost their dog” “they seem to be hurt” “their coming from that way” “they slipped and fell on a wet spot”
It was discovered after the banning of books in Florida that it was one couple that banned 99% of the books
What couple was that?
"Banning of explicit kink books"
@@michaelcome9447 , seriously? 🙄
@@bonniegaither3994 I mean, that's what was banned, so...
@@michaelcome9447Example? What kink are you talking about buddy? Care to elaborate on the blatant lie you're using to paper over your homophobia? Or do you just wanna admit you hate seeing gay people in books and save us all the time?
The anti education direction this country is moving in is very troubling. When I was in school in the 60’s-80’s, there was none or at least very little of that. “Controversial” books were available and to my knowledge, there weren’t parents screaming about any title that was available. The U.S. will not be able to compete on the international stage as we’ll be graduating kids who can barely read or understand even basic math. People need to wake up….
6:23 no way Of mice and men is banned! The book is good. In Ireland studied it during our junior cycle I’d say about 7-9grade. Can’t imagine it being banned 😢
It's a "banned' book that's in every library and required reading. Same way "Catcher in the Rye" or "To Kill a Mockingbird" are banned. They aren't really, but some people like to pretend they are.
I'm so glad I never was in school in America. The culture war is spiralling out of control.
THANKYOU for this freaking fantastic work.
All these parents are forgetting that they learned about CRT and gender, and they're still all horrible people. Why are they worried about their kids NOW?
Honestly they probably never paid attention while learning that stuff lmao
The problem is none of these objecting parents learned about CRT. That's literally an elective course for law students. Even the ones that are lawyers are in no way choosing that course. They do still want it banned however.
@@butterfish-g9fI remember a recurring joke about how racist parents don't want children to learn about racism, because they're afraid children will see their faces in historical photos depicting racism.
Just seems to me that instead of explaining and admitting their mistakes to children while also telling them not to follow the same path as them when they were young, they choose to hide it and blame the problems on some vague boogeyman.
@@devofficialchannel In a good number of cases they don't think their behavior is a mistake. They want their children to copy their behaviors and views.
Personally, I think homeschooling should not be allowed, with specific exceptions for things like disability. Too many groups like ILBM use it to indoctrinate children
Devil’s advocate question: is it only indoctrination when it’s something with which you disagree? We’re all indoctrinated into something.
Why is the indoctrination provided by the school any better?
Indoctrination when it’s leftist/LGBT: 😌
Indoctrination when It’s LE FASCIST NAZI THREAT CONSERVATIVES: 😡😡🤬🤬👿👿
You area. Good example of why kids need to be homeschooled!
There’s lots of other reasons people homeschool. As an Indigenous mom I want a safe non racist place to for my kids to learn. And I don’t trust the school system after you setters stole my people and forced us into boarding schools. Plus I want my kids to learn history and not white washed American settler propaganda. 3 of my kids have gone to university since.
I got homeschooled cause of ADHD and racism
Best thing to happen to me cause I read Plato on my own, other classics and can think for myself
I was homeschooled by my racist parent and my ADHD was ignored. Worst thing to happen to me as I was made to normalize the absolute worst human behaviors enacted towards me. I got to read Plato when I finally went to public school and took an AP class.
@@tkhachicap. Said the exact same thing in reverse. Nice try
@@cornnapper2604 what I'm gonna do, fax you my Christian homeschool curriculum planners and email pics of me with my white mama? 😂🤣 📠
No but seriously, I want the original commenter to be telling the truth, it gives me hope. I wish my childhood went different, and hope it doesn't become a more common occurrence. I can understand if it's too dismal a reality to face rn, especially paired with the content of this video. I've only begun dealing with the implications my upbringing had on my entire future and being in recent years. Just thought it was interesting the vast differences in our experiences.
If you are a progressive you can’t think for yourself. If you enjoy Plato though, I assume you’re not making opinions based on emotions.
@@0xmand conservatives do?
Parents don't need a bill of rights. Children need a bill of rights. Parents need a bill of responsibilities. I will die on this hill. And you, my friend, deserve many more subs.
The only problem if the children was from Muslim family and need to follow sharia law, it's parent's rights to oppose LGBTQism on their children
One of the most absurd things I have ever heard, and that's saying something
Because the good guys are the ones demanding certain people shouldn't have rights...
25:37 I can’t read those 3 words together without laughing. 😂
No wonder America has a crisis of stupidity. I feel for these children, they are not receiving a decent education and it is the governments responsibility to support higher levels of education.
People are dumb because what these woke school teach
When the government prioritizes profits anything that’s would lead to a loss of profits even if it would bring a huge change would be opposed by those who fund them.
Had to watch the video as the title intrigued me but from wrong reading - sitting at my computer I saw "Alt-Right" and thought that was some odd command?? - I knew about alt-tab.... lol
As an italian who has been educated in the italian education system i feel like what this reactionary parents (conservative is an understatement) are saing would mean, in my country and in many others european countries wich have had very big responsabilities in the discrimination and genocide of jewish people, not teaching about the holocaust because we dont want to make people students unconfortable for the sins of their granparents?
Unfortunately we should talk a lot more about our crimes in colonialism but thats another story
I'm Romanian and back in my day, no, we didn't learn about what we did regarding the Holocaust. I only learned about it in university. But was it about not making kids uncomfortable? I don't think so, as much as it was a general whitewashing of history. Every country presents its history with itself as the main character and the hero. Regarding feelings, even knowing what I know, I'm not ashamed at all. It was what it was, it happened, I acknowledge it, but I don't feel anything beyond that. Even if I were to hear my grandfather who fought in WW2, at the Battle of Stalingrad, took active part in genocide, I still wouldn't feel anything. If he did something to be ashamed of, he should have felt ashamed, not me, I was born 40 years later, I didn't do anything and I'm not him. And 45 years of communism were more than enough punishment for whatever we did wrong in all our history.
As much as I have a bias toward supporting your points, it's not just the "alt-right" and "conservative" branches who are in the anti-school camp. As a teacher, I'd say that it's an on-going trend across our country right now for whoever who can afford it and are disagreeable, and I've been repeatedly informed by those in a low-socioeconomic household that they'd be anti-school too if they were much more well-off in having choices. Also, these days, parents who I think are left-leaning (from what they've proudly shared with me) have aggressively harassed me to cover things outside of curriculum (to the point of stalking me physically and/or via social media), albeit slightly lesser than right-leaning parents. Personally, I've met parents from both left- and right-leaning politics who are obsessed with controlling what teachers teach, and I think that it has more to do with our current unhealthily growing divide in our political climate - leading to tribalistic thinking. Moreover, we're not doing well in schools at all; my colleagues and I are often underpaid and overworked; over the last two years, our school's funding has been sucking so bad that we had to fork out parts of our own salary repeatedly together to pay for class materials. Many of my previous colleagues have quit, and I'm planning to do so as well, so - while politics are definitely a toxic element to public schooling - our economy is kicking our ass much more. Personally, I find that the anti-school trend in our country is coming from society's overall lack of empathy of others and the overall lack of an ability to respond with trust. At least this is what I listen from most parents talking with me about being anti-school. They're sharing with me their fears of their children being bullied, outcasted, confused, cancelled, hazed, discriminated, unfavored, et cetera, and - through that - their fears of not having a relationship with their children as they're being enculturated by their school setting. Doesn't matter what race or religion or beliefs or stances or etc. from who I meet. Parents fear, and there's not enough awareness, empathy and psychoeducation to separate that fear from their love for their children and to allow for mistakes to happen (either from their children or from anyone who is a part of the school system). Therefore, anti-school will sound alluring to parents when fears are being played and when their security or/and the security of their children believed to be a given.
Listen I'm not American, my country doesn't recognize LGBT people as a protected class or anything but we don't have parents meddling in school like this. And I keep just saying oh my god.
That one about not being able to access a child without the parent's permission is SO dangerous!!! Literally the most likely person to harm a child is their guardian and that's who you're legally required to ask if it's okay to check on the child?! That could get people killed! Literally!! What do you think a parent who's asked this, that's harming their child is going to do? If they think the child said something to spur such an inquiry?? You could make whatever they're dealing with worse oh my goddd
Well of course. You also have to consider a lot of these right wing anti school movements harbor people that prey on children too. They don't want kids having access to adults that may be able to help them in any way.
I can vouch here as an Indonesian who lived 15 years in Malaysia. Both countries have rampant anti-LGBT rhetoric and conservatives are still a problem, but at least the education system of both countries aren't as screwed and the parents don't meddle much with school affairs.
Even if there are protests against teaching gender and sexuality, at least the religious folk don't try to protest science classes or say that evolution and Big Bang should be banned from subjects.
I rolled my eyes every time they get upset at something and blame teachers for it.
was looking forward to this! great video!
I’m a Christian that doesn’t celebrate Christmas because of its pagan origins. Does that mean I’m going to homeschool my son because I don’t want him being around something I think is spiritually wrong? Absolutely not!! He needs to learn about things that actually exist and it’s up to me to contextualize it according to our values when he gets home. (Plus it’s just a capitalist dream holiday these days). Why can’t these parents understand that it’s good for their kids to have a well rounded understanding of the world.
They’re going to be at such a disadvantage when they leave home though I bet these parents would want to keep them in their insular community for their whole lives. This is why some of these kids go off the deep end once they get an inch of freedom.
History is valid, science is valid, bodily autonomy is valid and privacy is valid. These parents make me so sad for their kids.
Very well said 👏
If you think Christmas is pagan you’re not worth listening to.
@@0xm lol. I mean it literally is. Look up the history, it’s a simple google search away.
“the Christian celebration of Christmas was invented by Romans as a way to co-opt and tame the raucous pagan holiday of Saturnalia”
There I just did one myself for you.
@@0xm lol. I mean it literally is. Look up the history, it’s a simple google search away.
“the Christian celebration of Christmas was invented by Romans as a way to co-opt and tame the raucous pagan holiday of Saturnalia”
There I just did one myself for you.
@@0xm lol. I mean it literally is. Look up the history, it’s a simple internet search away.
“the Christian celebration of Christmas was invented by Romans as a way to co-opt and tame the raucous pagan holiday of Saturnalia”
There I just did one myself for you.
The unfortunate and dangerously classist truth is something like 'free schooling' only works if the parents are actively academic, your kid will want to copy you, if you want them to read they have to see you read, a lot, and everything, you have to have the time, education, and interest to be obviously, actively, and perpetually curious. That way they module the behavior. Effective homeschooling, especially more 'self directed' types is far more dependent on the personality and interests of the caregiver. My child loves plants and bugs because I garden, cooks because I cook, and is enthralled by books because I read. Not suggesting I'm perfect, far from it, I'd like to do better with math, and on board another language, but I have a hard time sustaining the energy to keep her interested in things I'm failing to be interested in. One of the advantages of a public education is to meet and interact with people who are passionate about diverse subjects, the English teacher obssesed with the humor of Shakespeare, the councilor with a wall of space posters, a librarian with a penchant for philosophy etc... A caregiver alone will have a hard time exposing their child to enough subjects to find the kids passion. Public school is many children's village in a world devolving into single cell family units with no parks, community events, or even congregations. (not saying you should go to church, just that is served a social function)
I was homeschooled 5th-12th grade because my Mom wanted me to have a Christian education. She has since seen the damage caused and I’ve forgiven her but i was in charge of grading my own work. Had no teachers both my parents had full time jobs. I essentially was a homemaker who spent my days cleaning the house and making dinner. My highschool transcript is fake and trying to socialize and make friends can be really hard when people know you were homeschooled. On top of that I was gay and had no clue how to date and my parents are conservative. All it did was train me to enjoy being alone which I guess is good. And cause years of mess I had to deconstruct to make friends and find happiness. To anyone in that situation it gets better and you’re gonna have fun and adventure. Just take your time
honestly though i was homeschooled and i think even "proper" homeschooling is still a symptom of a bigger problem. the only ethical reasons you would homeschool is because of how broken your other options are and you have the money and resources to not only give your kid a sense of community but also a proper education. most homeschool families dont have that and it would be better if they just sent their kids to public school. public school still sucks though and if it was just better then homeschooling and other forms of alternative education would be unnecessary
Agreed. So many people point to how effective it is but for many people that level of homeschooling would essentially require them to have a very well paying career/job and have a lot of time to properly invest into creating, building, maintaining, planning the lesson material. This doesn’t even include that fact that some materials need higher level of learning to even adequately teach. If a parent hasn’t had a proper educational experience they won’t be able to provide an effective homeschooling curriculum at the get go. They can learn but it’ll essentially pile onto the existing work load.
Hard to be convinced that homeschooling requires a privilege many don’t currently have
“I don’t want my kid sitting at a desk all day”
Forest schools, Waldorf, Montessori, Reggio Emilia and other kinds play-based, exploration type of schools exist and are growing nationwide. Some former school educators have their own home schooling groups.
Unless someone lives in a rural place, things like that probably exist.
It's so bizarre because this didn't happen in the UK at all, however there is a political party called Reform UK who basically just copy everything the Republican's do in the US even if it's completely unrelated to UK politics, and they have started adopting language about CRT and 'Gender ideology' being taught in schools, even though this is non-existent in UK schools and only exists at University level (in terms of CRT), whilst 'gender ideology' meaning teaching children at all about the existence of trans people has now been banned by the current government (current until tomorrow at least when there is likely to be a change in government). But I've not heard about a movement of people who want to home school their kids just yet, I'm sure they exist but in much smaller numbers.
As a bona fide British-American--far much more the latter than the former, and i cant do a real British accent to save my life, but I do have citizenship in the UK--I can't help but notice that the British right wing has been increasingly ripping off our right wingers. One "anti woke" candidate for London mayor this year brought up "DEI" in her platform, despite the fact that the term is nowhere near as prevalent in the UK.
@@samwindmill8264 Yes you're absolutely correct. But after the results tonight perhaps there will be a bit of a shift in the narrative. I am currently concerned at how the narrative around trans rights is still viewed though, the movement around that will have to be grass roots because the media is controlling the narrative currently here and it's predominantly run by transphobes. Still hopefully in the UK we can move the overton window back over to the left which is long overdue.
@@samwindmill8264that’s honestly fascinating. I’m curious why they’re doing that? Do the problems DEI go against also exist in the UK?
Can't wait to watch this, love your videos sm
This is a reminder to everyone who watched this video, she attached a list of her sources in a link at the bottom of the description box area.
You might want to check them out before making your own version of what is true about the facts she spoke about in this video.
Thank you for this well put together video ❤
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i think i sort of liked Anne of Green Gables as an audio book. And I think my elementary school did a musical for it.
It’s funny to me, because I was radicalized to the left in public school- but it had nothing to do with politics in curriculum. It was in a pointedly apolitical extracurricular philosophy class, which essentially just gave an overview of the history of western thought in various philosophical fields and basic training in logic and rhetoric.
Towards the start of the class, the teacher told us “growing up, you were all taught to respect everyone’s opinion. That’s dumb. Why? Because sometimes people are wrong.” The point he was laying out was that while it’s important to listen to the reasoning behind what someone thinks, and to be open, it it’s bad reasoning than there’s no need to respect that opinion.
I had been leaning towards the left for a while then, but, growing up in a fairly conservative household, I was always kind of a squishy centrist. It was because of that little speech that I started realizing that no, you don’t always have to talk to people who disagree with you. Sometimes you just have to push back. I think I might’ve been radicalized to the right if I’d been right-leaning, but I’m not sure. I like to think that I still would’ve found my way to where I stand now even if I had.
Congratulations on your indoctrination
Ehhhh I’d say it’s better to respect their opinion (as in not dismissing it outright) but ultimately not listen or even feed into it. An ember only grows when you add fuel.
My mom taught special Ed preschool at the time of online learning. Those kids learned faster when online because they weren't worn out by socialization. (So academics improved, but social skills didn't.) I think it highly depends on the student as to how well they do with online classes. My brother thrives, but I fail every time.
Ironically, abolishing public education would hurt military recruitment since you need a HS diploma to join and every branch is failing to meet recruitment quotas. While the military might accept uneducated people without a diploma or GED for undesignated sailors, they won't for air traffic controllers, nuclear technicians, or aircraft mechanics.
You're right
This is an overall consistently thoughtful and measured analysis, I appreciate it - I'll tap you for Secretary of Education when I'm President, which will totally happen :P
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