This little secret sure took my sweet time to discover. Since most guides actually lie about Quadriga fight being a requirement for having Nybeth in Law route POTD. Glad to have that myth busted. On top of that you have beat nearly the entire game to get this scene. Here are the steps to get it: 1. On Chapter 1, SKIP Quadriga Nybeth fight. Do not ever go to quadriga in Chapter 1. 2. At the end of Ch1, go Law route. On neutral route Nybeth is Mandatory so its a no go. On Chaos you must do Cressida sidequest to have Nybeth appear on POTD so its impossible to get there too. 3. Pay the whole game up to Chapter 4 4. On Chapter 4 Defeat Sherri as usual go back to Pidoch for a scene 5. After the scene read the Blast on Exeter talk to unlock POTD road as usual 6. Clear the Road fights and enter POTD as usual 7. On POTD Nybeth will appear in Floor 5 as usual and this scene in the video will play. In fact you cannot miss Nybeth in Law route at all. This scene is required for %100 events so... good luck to all completionist out there beating the whole main game again. If you enjoy these kind of rare stuff like me please consider subscribing. Cheers.
Pretty much all guides were made for the psp version or used a psp guide as a template. Could be the chapter 1 nybeth fight requirement got changed like denebs.
No idea really. I was shocked to even find this since guides say Nybeth shouldn't even appear here. With no info and even misinformation around its really hard do discover these. Closer you come really harder it gets. I can imagine the difficulty. Hace you tested the shire boss quotes. Final shirne boss you kill says You are now a true oracle? Something like that. Since there is 6 shire bosses and you have to defeat each one as 6th.... it means 6x6= 36 individual temple runs... whew. Good luck on that.
@@WarrenReportWow you are really determined. One other thing that comes my mind is shire opening scenes with sisters. All 4 can say the lines for each shrines. So thats a 6x4. I'm guessing you already got those too though?
@@Burak_C yeah...all you have to do is access each of the sanctuaries with one of the sisters, then retreat in the first fight, dismiss the character and repeat the process with the other three. My problem is mainly chapter 2 and 3, always missing 1 or 2 events in total
Lol old guides lie like final fantasy tactics 🤣. It's crazy how those 2 games are similar. Prima even has a time mage on the summoner’s page and doesn't even do overpowered builds (blood sword on equip swords ninja and mystic/oracle stalling with invigoration to 4 shot/drain lucavi, hesitation which works on human bosses to stop actions, defense up, manafont and mana shield from time mage). Page 146 for that goof and they don't even explain the priest/white mage how holy is overpowered let alone graviga with Mime ends anyone with graviga. Glad youtube playlists correct nowadays, even if youtube won't let me link.
Question: If I'm understanding this correctly, you did this on Law route. How did you get Cressida, Oelias, and Dievold to show up for this fight? If I remember correctly, they are all exclusive to chaos and neutral respectively so it is weird to see them next to Denam in that cutscene. If you keep them in your party because of CODA and fight nybeth with them on Law route, do they still say the lines they have from the times you fight Nybeth on Neutral and Chaos or are they silent for the whole fight and just there for the cutscene?
Just time travel, I added them there for fun. When you time travel you get to keep your entire party. So you can kill Vyce with Vyce etc. However none of the story or battle dialogue scenes which include these characters (such as oelias dialogue here) will play, since story checks the people pages on warren report to see who is alive and recruited. And those do reset when you time travel. Basically Cressida Dievold and Oelias there are treated like generic nobodies. Its made this way so you don't lose your party members when playing other routes where they are dead or not recruited etc.
Wow that's crazy. I love how many eventualities they've put stuff in the game for. Also love that guides just straight up lie about this, seems 100% of events is pretty much an impossibility tbh. Do you know if there's any unique dialogue in the story battles further down in the palace of the dead? Would like to know if i need to bring Cressida all the way down or if i can save it for later
Not really. Floor 5 nybeth has dialogues with cressida (only 1). In N route though floor 5 nybeth, there is oelias dievold dialogues which is really long and includes a plot twist. You can find the vid on the channel its one of my favorites. Other than floor 5 there is none. Floor 100 nybeth only speaks once during his first turn. There seems to be one japanese player on earth who have done the %100 events. Still no other.
@@Burak_C Thank you! Figures there'd only be one person to get 100% yeah. I first due to how the tutorial was written thought it included variations with background characters with no speaking lines, luckily that doesn't seem to be the case, would've made the scene after Barnicia horrible. Is battle-variations for percentage purposes stuff where the layout of the battlefield is different? Guests not being present due to dying etc?
@@Shal5ful Battlefield enemy variations do not matter. Some fights such as ozma recruitment fight has two version one with hoby deployed and one not. They both count different. There are a few of those but not a lot. Yeah the tutorial is quite wrong. I was surprised when i first saw it aswell
@@Burak_C Oh okay, I see. I'm just looking at my chaos playthrough and in chapter 3 i have 16/30 battles achieved, despite from the world tarot seeming like i only missed three battles. So i figured it was stuff like whether guests were present or not that determined if it was a different battle
@@Shal5ful I did heard that phrorompa battles do count different in chapter 2 and 3 and 4. So redoing them might be a thing. Just a rumor though I'm not sure.
Well the first part of the scene mapped in the video timeline is same for both chaotic and law route under all circumstances. Second part named the rare part is exclusive to law route if you skip the Quadriga Nybeth fight entirely. So denam and nybeth never meet until this part. In other routes Nybeth appears one way or another, not on law. If you do not skip quadriga then you get the same scene as chaotic route version. Law route getting all the cool stuff as always lol
This little secret sure took my sweet time to discover. Since most guides actually lie about Quadriga fight being a requirement for having Nybeth in Law route POTD. Glad to have that myth busted. On top of that you have beat nearly the entire game to get this scene. Here are the steps to get it:
1. On Chapter 1, SKIP Quadriga Nybeth fight. Do not ever go to quadriga in Chapter 1.
2. At the end of Ch1, go Law route. On neutral route Nybeth is Mandatory so its a no go. On Chaos you must do Cressida sidequest to have Nybeth appear on POTD so its impossible to get there too.
3. Pay the whole game up to Chapter 4
4. On Chapter 4 Defeat Sherri as usual go back to Pidoch for a scene
5. After the scene read the Blast on Exeter talk to unlock POTD road as usual
6. Clear the Road fights and enter POTD as usual
7. On POTD Nybeth will appear in Floor 5 as usual and this scene in the video will play. In fact you cannot miss Nybeth in Law route at all.
This scene is required for %100 events so... good luck to all completionist out there beating the whole main game again. If you enjoy these kind of rare stuff like me please consider subscribing. Cheers.
Pretty much all guides were made for the psp version or used a psp guide as a template. Could be the chapter 1 nybeth fight requirement got changed like denebs.
As always, thank you for finding these =]
Damn... are there more cases like this? I'm missing very few events in each chapter and I had never thought about that possibility😮
No idea really. I was shocked to even find this since guides say Nybeth shouldn't even appear here. With no info and even misinformation around its really hard do discover these.
Closer you come really harder it gets. I can imagine the difficulty. Hace you tested the shire boss quotes. Final shirne boss you kill says You are now a true oracle? Something like that. Since there is 6 shire bosses and you have to defeat each one as 6th.... it means 6x6= 36 individual temple runs... whew. Good luck on that.
@@Burak_C already did that my friend! 😁
@@WarrenReportWow you are really determined. One other thing that comes my mind is shire opening scenes with sisters. All 4 can say the lines for each shrines. So thats a 6x4. I'm guessing you already got those too though?
@@Burak_C yeah...all you have to do is access each of the sanctuaries with one of the sisters, then retreat in the first fight, dismiss the character and repeat the process with the other three.
My problem is mainly chapter 2 and 3, always missing 1 or 2 events in total
YOU CAN SKIP NYBETH? My honor would never let me (and I thought I would have to fight him no matter what). Cool stuff!
I was pretty surprised when I found it as well. Thought he would simply not appear when you skip quadriga.
Lol old guides lie like final fantasy tactics 🤣. It's crazy how those 2 games are similar. Prima even has a time mage on the summoner’s page and doesn't even do overpowered builds (blood sword on equip swords ninja and mystic/oracle stalling with invigoration to 4 shot/drain lucavi, hesitation which works on human bosses to stop actions, defense up, manafont and mana shield from time mage).
Page 146 for that goof and they don't even explain the priest/white mage how holy is overpowered let alone graviga with Mime ends anyone with graviga.
Glad youtube playlists correct nowadays, even if youtube won't let me link.
Question: If I'm understanding this correctly, you did this on Law route. How did you get Cressida, Oelias, and Dievold to show up for this fight? If I remember correctly, they are all exclusive to chaos and neutral respectively so it is weird to see them next to Denam in that cutscene.
If you keep them in your party because of CODA and fight nybeth with them on Law route, do they still say the lines they have from the times you fight Nybeth on Neutral and Chaos or are they silent for the whole fight and just there for the cutscene?
Just time travel, I added them there for fun. When you time travel you get to keep your entire party. So you can kill Vyce with Vyce etc. However none of the story or battle dialogue scenes which include these characters (such as oelias dialogue here) will play, since story checks the people pages on warren report to see who is alive and recruited. And those do reset when you time travel. Basically Cressida Dievold and Oelias there are treated like generic nobodies. Its made this way so you don't lose your party members when playing other routes where they are dead or not recruited etc.
@@Burak_C Thank you.
Wow that's crazy. I love how many eventualities they've put stuff in the game for.
Also love that guides just straight up lie about this, seems 100% of events is pretty much an impossibility tbh.
Do you know if there's any unique dialogue in the story battles further down in the palace of the dead?
Would like to know if i need to bring Cressida all the way down or if i can save it for later
Not really. Floor 5 nybeth has dialogues with cressida (only 1). In N route though floor 5 nybeth, there is oelias dievold dialogues which is really long and includes a plot twist. You can find the vid on the channel its one of my favorites.
Other than floor 5 there is none. Floor 100 nybeth only speaks once during his first turn.
There seems to be one japanese player on earth who have done the %100 events. Still no other.
@@Burak_C Thank you!
Figures there'd only be one person to get 100% yeah. I first due to how the tutorial was written thought it included variations with background characters with no speaking lines, luckily that doesn't seem to be the case, would've made the scene after Barnicia horrible.
Is battle-variations for percentage purposes stuff where the layout of the battlefield is different? Guests not being present due to dying etc?
@@Shal5ful Battlefield enemy variations do not matter. Some fights such as ozma recruitment fight has two version one with hoby deployed and one not. They both count different. There are a few of those but not a lot.
Yeah the tutorial is quite wrong. I was surprised when i first saw it aswell
@@Burak_C Oh okay, I see. I'm just looking at my chaos playthrough and in chapter 3 i have 16/30 battles achieved, despite from the world tarot seeming like i only missed three battles. So i figured it was stuff like whether guests were present or not that determined if it was a different battle
@@Shal5ful I did heard that phrorompa battles do count different in chapter 2 and 3 and 4. So redoing them might be a thing. Just a rumor though I'm not sure.
Only available in Law route?😅
Well the first part of the scene mapped in the video timeline is same for both chaotic and law route under all circumstances. Second part named the rare part is exclusive to law route if you skip the Quadriga Nybeth fight entirely. So denam and nybeth never meet until this part. In other routes Nybeth appears one way or another, not on law. If you do not skip quadriga then you get the same scene as chaotic route version.
Law route getting all the cool stuff as always lol
@@Burak_C I am still collecting the event of charter 4 & CC. it belong to charter 4 or CC
@@lokli2218 Chapter 4 only. Nybeth never appears in Curtain call. Good luck on collecting.
@@Burak_C i am using your information for reference 😂 did you get the event list 100% yet?🤣
@@lokli2218 No, I use save - loads a lot so my progress doesn't get saved mostly. So i wont be getting it anytime soon.