i think the little cooldown timer at 4:18 is actually becuase the two don't share cooldowns. dagger used her wall ability which then went on a 13 second cooldown, then swapped to cloak who can also use his ability, but hers remains on cooldown for the remaining 12
After going back through it, I came to the same conclusion. Initially I also thought it might be a "Shift Proc" that has a cooldown, like if you switch you get a buff on your first basic/skill and that buff has a CD, but the timer does line up perfectly with the CD that was left on Dagger's Wall before the switch to Cloak.
I agree. Plus in the video Cloak switches back to Dagger before that cooldown is over. They do some editing so its a different map but the swap starts and there are still 8 seconds left on that mystery counter.
This is just the coolest and most unique kit idea so far. Two characters in one?! Very cool. And I love that they have a simple kit mechanically but still enough skill expression for GOOD players to stick out on C&D!
Skill expression seems to be a big theme for pretty much every character! A lot of easy to play but hard to master will allow for a lot of reason to find a main or two and get really good with them. I love it
@GodzillathekingKongbane Luna/Jeff main support in beta. Jeff was so clutch with those health bubbles. Place them around choke points esp before a fight.
@ I was gonna choose Luna as my second. She has a bunch of team ups and a very good ult for support. I think captain will be my favorite tank and I have no clue who to play as dps there are too many to choose lol
@GodzillathekingKongbane DPS will be insane. Whatever you think will be most fun. Majik is a chainsaw, she's literally a hero from Dynasty Warriors. Psylocke is a ninja. Iron Fist is Liu Kang with parkour. Moon Knight has insane ult. Squirrel Girl will just decimate teams, she's a general for sure and will have the biggest backpack. Starlord might have got power crept. Venom is beast. Thor is a god. Hela is for scrubs. Scarlet is risky with all the new heroes we have. That's all i got for you. If you can combo with someone and play as a duo, Majik and Psylocke all day. Or Black Panther and Spiderman. Spiderman is too much, he's so fast his skill cap is insane. BP is a leech once you figure him out. In beta BP was strongest, but a total wildcard since only Necros showed how to make him work. It'll definitely be important to watch streamers so you can pick up on things like that. I had no idea BP was lit since I didn't know how to play him. Necros showed me the way
I agree that the cooldown isn't for them switching because cloak switches back to dagger after killing Strange and when dagger switches to cloak before he blinds star-lord the countdown isn't there.
I wasn't a fan of the show tbh. The actors were great, but there wasn't enough budget to do the characters' powers justice imo. Homage costumes are always cool though
I'm just grateful I'm not the only one who remembers the show. I think the most notable thing either of them did outside of their own stories was Cloak got fucked up pretty bad in the Civil War arc in the comics, so I was grateful they got their own show to show them off.
This channel is gonna soar, as it should! I’m pumped for Rivals-haven’t been this excited about a game in a while. And Strategists, my preferred play style looks so good! Also, art alone in this game has hooked me!
They had a show which is on Hulu/Disney+. I never saw it but I heard it's good. It's about this couple that got experimented on after their prom ride crashed i believe.
@@ubadman1 Oh shit. Because I remember either seeing them on that Ultimate Spider-Man show or reading them in a Miles Morales comic. What's their actual origin then?
An oil rig explosion, there was a drug deal and cloaks older brother got shot and fell into the water and he jumped in after him. Dagger was also in the water at that time and they saw each other for a minute but their powers don’t manifest till puberty and they were very young at the time of the explosion and they meet up and find out they are connected
at 4:44 the cooldown over the ultimate icon was the cooldown for daggers wall. This is huge when you think about switching off cooldown the synergy for this character is going to be insane.
@CozyRivals yep. Then they started to hunt down the drug dealers and experimenters around NYC. They started to get treated like criminals because people thought they were mutants (similar to how Spiderman was treated) and because they don't work with cops, seeing as many throw drug addicts in jail instead of help them by healing their afflictions
For the players who wants to see C&D gameplay, TenZ and Kyedae will play Wolverine and C&D on stream (4PM PST and for west europe it's like 2hours in the morning so let's check the rediffusion of the stream XD). Kyedae will play C&D and TenZ Wolverine if you prefer dome of the gameplay more than the other.
I remember when they debuted in comics. They had a crossover or three with the Power Pack which would be the deepest of deep dives for a comic history video! Lol
something you missed is the only time that cooldown above the ult pops up is in the clip where dagger hits moonknight with the dagger wall no other clip of them swapping does it
The cooldown that pops up when they swap is just showing her cooldowns. Their cool downs are apparently separate, as she users her healing wall, then immediately swaps, her healing wall goes on cooldown for 12 seconds, while his is still off cooldown, then a 12 seconds timer shows up in the corner. It’s clearly just displaying the others cool downs while swapped.
They remind me of SMITE Hel, being able to switch between two styles, one more focused on healing and the other on damage. Even having a cleanse ability. I am excited to deep dive into them more
Honestly probably a very high skill character to use. And I see it's one of those characters that people will hate to see just because a bad player will cost the game and a good player will make other team rage.
If you notice, before activating the ultimate, moon knight was at half health dagger gave him a heal but quickly went back to half again, but when cloak and dagger went through him with the dash and the camera gives a top to bottom view, moon knights health is back again to full, and pressumably passively heals allies who are on the purple mist, as you can see moon knights health quickly regenerate after killing all 3 characters (it's hard to notice, but I'm almost sure it does), you'd not be wrong by assuming the mist does damage to enemies
The 12 second cooldown that is above the ult is, i believe, dagger's cooldowns after switching to cloak. there will probably be the same when switching to dagger after using a cloak ability
Every character release is more and more like Smite lol. Winter Soldier has Hercules’ pick>dash tech, Cloak and Dagger are just Hel, I wonder what’s next
They've been my main since day one. Love the auto-aim dagger (which always makes me the highest accurate heroes on the battle) and fluid switching between healer role or close support role (love how I manage to kill off a tank while they're being distracted multiple times). Always stick yourself with a tank to pull this off.
Really unique idea. Have a feeling really good cloak and dagger players will really be able to snowball fights by applying pressure when healing isn’t needed, much like how Moira helps clean up fights and is essentially dps in some fights. Cloak looks better at that tho lol
i think their ult does damage on the dash and creates a void field to where if you step on the void your in another space and you cant take damage but if the enemy steps in the void too you both are now on the same plane again, could be wrong but that looks to be it
This duality reminds me a bit of Moiria and being able to heal and damage to a high degree with ease. Pretty cool idea to make two characters for this kit imo.
It looks like when they're dashing in their ultimate, they're dragging that purple smoke stuff behind them. Like they're setting up where they want it to be.
Dagger is Tandy the blonde girl, and Cloak is Tyrone the black guy. I'm honestly surprised that most folks don't know these two. They were a huge part of the Spiderman mythos back in the day. Maximum Carnage is when I first saw them
What’s interesting is that cloak and dagger kinda remind me of Maeve from Paladins. Cloak and Maeve both blind their opponents with their ult. Dagger and Maeve both throw knives/daggers.
The cooldown above ult is the cooldown on non used kit. So you can use Dagger’s abilities, switch to Cloak and then know when to switch back because it tells you when they get off cooldown.
Hm. I think those cooldowns that is above the ult is the other’s cooldowns. Maybe just to give you an indication when the other character has their abilities all set.
This is a really cool concept I hope they have more two characters in one. Gambit and rogue would be cool. Or nightcrawler and anyone could work well like he teleports them out and comes in
Given Cloak and dagger's relationship and struggles with bigotry and racism and how their powers work it makes sense. Rogue from a design choice makes no sense in a shooter. She will be either the worse character in the game because they don't know to tune her ability to disable people. Or she will be most op character in the game for the same reason.
So I find I funny you said it didn't matter if they hit star lord with the wall because he has auto aim, because if you watch you'll notice his lock on stops moving and when he fires after Goin back to C&D's POV, starlords bullets are now clearly missing, meaning the blind also disables his auto aim sense he technically doesn't have LOS. Also the cool down that appears when they switch is 100% showing the cool down on daggers wall sense C&D don't share cooldowns, so that's how's up to show yu your other stances CDs so you can better manage your switches and know something is off CD before swapping.
My one quibble was that Cloak was always the defensive one, so if there was going to be a "healer" of the two, it should be cloak. But it looks like they are both supports just in different ways. Dagger does heals and Cloak does damage prevention.
Dr. Stranges ult freezes enemies and projects their astral forms out of their body. Hawkeyes ult doesn't freeze them but takes afterimages of them that Hawkeye can hit. So, imagine you're fighting a really mobile character, you pop the ult and you have a frozen afterimage that you can use that won't move so you can still make the kill.
i think the little cooldown timer at 4:18 is actually becuase the two don't share cooldowns. dagger used her wall ability which then went on a 13 second cooldown, then swapped to cloak who can also use his ability, but hers remains on cooldown for the remaining 12
Good eye! That makes perfect sense. They will be so much more fun to play if the switch is not on a cooldown.
that’s exactly what i was thinking
Makes sense I really doubt they would block swapping for 12 seconds
After going back through it, I came to the same conclusion. Initially I also thought it might be a "Shift Proc" that has a cooldown, like if you switch you get a buff on your first basic/skill and that buff has a CD, but the timer does line up perfectly with the CD that was left on Dagger's Wall before the switch to Cloak.
I agree. Plus in the video Cloak switches back to Dagger before that cooldown is over. They do some editing so its a different map but the swap starts and there are still 8 seconds left on that mystery counter.
This is just the coolest and most unique kit idea so far. Two characters in one?! Very cool. And I love that they have a simple kit mechanically but still enough skill expression for GOOD players to stick out on C&D!
Literally such a cool concept
Skill expression seems to be a big theme for pretty much every character! A lot of easy to play but hard to master will allow for a lot of reason to find a main or two and get really good with them. I love it
meanwhile phighting has a 4 in 1 and its a fucking roblox game lmao
The skill ceiling for this character is actually really high because cloaks invulnerability ability has to be times precisely.
@@DevilSpade It might be because I'm 49, but what you just aid makes no sense at all.
I love when they spread the love and make supports and tanks just as cool as the DPS
Well, I just found my main. I'm mostly a support player, and their kit looks like so much fun.
Gives me Mercy vibes. S1 back when she was a GOD
I like to play a fill role and have 2 from each group I main. They are going to be one of my supports without question
@GodzillathekingKongbane Luna/Jeff main support in beta. Jeff was so clutch with those health bubbles. Place them around choke points esp before a fight.
@ I was gonna choose Luna as my second. She has a bunch of team ups and a very good ult for support. I think captain will be my favorite tank and I have no clue who to play as dps there are too many to choose lol
@GodzillathekingKongbane DPS will be insane. Whatever you think will be most fun. Majik is a chainsaw, she's literally a hero from Dynasty Warriors. Psylocke is a ninja. Iron Fist is Liu Kang with parkour. Moon Knight has insane ult. Squirrel Girl will just decimate teams, she's a general for sure and will have the biggest backpack. Starlord might have got power crept. Venom is beast. Thor is a god. Hela is for scrubs. Scarlet is risky with all the new heroes we have. That's all i got for you.
If you can combo with someone and play as a duo, Majik and Psylocke all day. Or Black Panther and Spiderman. Spiderman is too much, he's so fast his skill cap is insane. BP is a leech once you figure him out. In beta BP was strongest, but a total wildcard since only Necros showed how to make him work. It'll definitely be important to watch streamers so you can pick up on things like that. I had no idea BP was lit since I didn't know how to play him. Necros showed me the way
I think the cooldown above the ultimate is the cooldown for daggers wall, not the cooldown for switching
I agree that the cooldown isn't for them switching because cloak switches back to dagger after killing Strange and when dagger switches to cloak before he blinds star-lord the countdown isn't there.
100% right
Think they won't have a cooldown for swapping
I like how their kit is super simple, not too many buttons, feel like their kit is all about timing and providing utility other than heal ofc
You’re right…. That OP character model
Sheesh.. Gotta be the hottest char for real. 🥵
The GYATT 🥵
Hope they add skins based off the Cloak and Dagger tv show
It was so good😁
I wasn't a fan of the show tbh. The actors were great, but there wasn't enough budget to do the characters' powers justice imo. Homage costumes are always cool though
I'm just grateful I'm not the only one who remembers the show. I think the most notable thing either of them did outside of their own stories was Cloak got fucked up pretty bad in the Civil War arc in the comics, so I was grateful they got their own show to show them off.
This makes me wanna give the show another shot.
Found my new strategist main. Such a unique and innovative concept for a character, I love it
This channel is gonna soar, as it should! I’m pumped for Rivals-haven’t been this excited about a game in a while. And Strategists, my preferred play style looks so good! Also, art alone in this game has hooked me!
I've never heard of cloak and dagger but they seem cool
They had a show which is on Hulu/Disney+. I never saw it but I heard it's good. It's about this couple that got experimented on after their prom ride crashed i believe.
They made a show a few years ago. I liked it actually. It was on Hulu
@@jboy544 not even close to their origin story but still great characters.
@@ubadman1 Oh shit. Because I remember either seeing them on that Ultimate Spider-Man show or reading them in a Miles Morales comic. What's their actual origin then?
An oil rig explosion, there was a drug deal and cloaks older brother got shot and fell into the water and he jumped in after him. Dagger was also in the water at that time and they saw each other for a minute but their powers don’t manifest till puberty and they were very young at the time of the explosion and they meet up and find out they are connected
So proud of your growth dude! Keep it up
That 12sec cooldown when Dagger switched to Cloak was Dagger’s wall cooldown; the game tracks the cooldowns of both characters.
at 4:44 the cooldown over the ultimate icon was the cooldown for daggers wall. This is huge when you think about switching off cooldown the synergy for this character is going to be insane.
Smashing both, next question.
Oh my days
Respect. 🧐
You sir, bow to no one. 🙌
It seems like Dagger is focused on healing while Cloak is more on disruption
Very smart of them to make the pretty lady the healer so your local Cloak and Dagger actually heals
This gives me hope for even more unique character mechanics for future heroes!
their kit is so interesting especially them being 2 separate characters with diff move sets is amazing!
Loving this switch mechanic!
Marvel rivals was super smart because they called supports strategists so they can do crazy damage
I have no idea what's happening in this trailer but I'm excited for them either way!😂
They were kidnapped and forced to do drugs
THANK YOU. I was so offended for them when he said they were trying to buy drugs. As if.
Was using some slight humor here but yes. Everyone died except them yes?
@CozyRivals yep. Then they started to hunt down the drug dealers and experimenters around NYC. They started to get treated like criminals because people thought they were mutants (similar to how Spiderman was treated) and because they don't work with cops, seeing as many throw drug addicts in jail instead of help them by healing their afflictions
@@CozyRivalsDon’t forget Mr. Negative. Been a minute since I read up on their lore but iirc Mr. negative was with them.
@@Watdeeweirdo
I can't tell you how much I appreciate your audio quality. Also the content is great too :D Keep it coming.
For the players who wants to see C&D gameplay, TenZ and Kyedae will play Wolverine and C&D on stream (4PM PST and for west europe it's like 2hours in the morning so let's check the rediffusion of the stream XD). Kyedae will play C&D and TenZ Wolverine if you prefer dome of the gameplay more than the other.
I remember when they debuted in comics. They had a crossover or three with the Power Pack which would be the deepest of deep dives for a comic history video! Lol
I love the uniqueness of this character(s). This is going to be so much fun to try out
something you missed is the only time that cooldown above the ult pops up is in the clip where dagger hits moonknight with the dagger wall no other clip of them swapping does it
The cooldown that pops up when they swap is just showing her cooldowns. Their cool downs are apparently separate, as she users her healing wall, then immediately swaps, her healing wall goes on cooldown for 12 seconds, while his is still off cooldown, then a 12 seconds timer shows up in the corner. It’s clearly just displaying the others cool downs while swapped.
I believe the cooldown above the ult is the healing wall from dagger so it continues to go down as you play dagger and vice versa
The cooldown on top of the ult is the cooldown of a Dagger ability, they have no shared cooldowns
They remind me of SMITE Hel, being able to switch between two styles, one more focused on healing and the other on damage. Even having a cleanse ability. I am excited to deep dive into them more
Absolutely
SMITE mentioned, lets go.
Honestly probably a very high skill character to use. And I see it's one of those characters that people will hate to see just because a bad player will cost the game and a good player will make other team rage.
There's no chance I'm ever going to play this game. But I'm here for the Cozy positivity. 🎉
This reminds me so much of Zenyatta and I love it so much
Cloak and dagger are the most underrated characters in marvel
If you notice, before activating the ultimate, moon knight was at half health dagger gave him a heal but quickly went back to half again, but when cloak and dagger went through him with the dash and the camera gives a top to bottom view, moon knights health is back again to full, and pressumably passively heals allies who are on the purple mist, as you can see moon knights health quickly regenerate after killing all 3 characters (it's hard to notice, but I'm almost sure it does), you'd not be wrong by assuming the mist does damage to enemies
Luna Snow got some competition for Marvel Rivals queen baddie goddamn
Also that's 3 dashes initial dash on ult was 3rd person then birds eye view shows 2 more... 👀
The 12 second cooldown that is above the ult is, i believe, dagger's cooldowns after switching to cloak. there will probably be the same when switching to dagger after using a cloak ability
Every character release is more and more like Smite lol. Winter Soldier has Hercules’ pick>dash tech, Cloak and Dagger are just Hel, I wonder what’s next
This is my favorite style of character. Stance switching, not dedicated to one play-style, can fill multiple shoes lets fuckin gooo
So cool! Everyday the hype grows
PBnJ with more stabbing haha. Subbed :)
just a heads up, the cooldown that shows up after they switch is the cooldown for daggers ability so you can keep track of it
They've been my main since day one. Love the auto-aim dagger (which always makes me the highest accurate heroes on the battle) and fluid switching between healer role or close support role (love how I manage to kill off a tank while they're being distracted multiple times). Always stick yourself with a tank to pull this off.
I think dagger will be an healer and cloak support/disruptor.. that is cool!
Really unique idea. Have a feeling really good cloak and dagger players will really be able to snowball fights by applying pressure when healing isn’t needed, much like how Moira helps clean up fights and is essentially dps in some fights. Cloak looks better at that tho lol
i think their ult does damage on the dash and creates a void field to where if you step on the void your in another space and you cant take damage but if the enemy steps in the void too you both are now on the same plane again, could be wrong but that looks to be it
This duality reminds me a bit of Moiria and being able to heal and damage to a high degree with ease. Pretty cool idea to make two characters for this kit imo.
My new main with Captain America, they look so good and unique! Cloak especially with his flash bang type effect, I can’t wit!
As a Moira main I love this character. This will be my main for sure
It looks like when they're dashing in their ultimate, they're dragging that purple smoke stuff behind them. Like they're setting up where they want it to be.
Dagger is Tandy the blonde girl, and Cloak is Tyrone the black guy.
I'm honestly surprised that most folks don't know these two. They were a huge part of the Spiderman mythos back in the day. Maximum Carnage is when I first saw them
What’s interesting is that cloak and dagger kinda remind me of Maeve from Paladins. Cloak and Maeve both blind their opponents with their ult. Dagger and Maeve both throw knives/daggers.
I believe that extra cool down was a dagger specific ability that was still on cool down at least that’s what the icon looked like
Cloak and dagger are one of my favourite characters in the comics, and they look amazing in game
4:37 the cooldown is for daggers walk thing, they have separate cooldowns for each ability
Seems like the ult does an AOE Blind so maybe teamwide CC's?
Curious if cloak does a cleanse/invincibility? Kinda similar to kiri🖤
1:47 from I can tell it seems as if her attack heals by default but if the character is full health she switches to dealing damage
That COZY hoodie! 🦈🔥
this character looks soo cool omg, they’re 100% my main
I think the blind would work on Starlord. He probably has to be able to see the enemy in order to auto aim.
I really hope people will support this game so it can be successful
The timer looks like you can only be Cloak for a set period of time. That's what the cooldown timer looks like to me.
my goats finally getting the fame they deserve
The light and dark kits with a switch button somewhat reminds me of Hel from Smite, but a more interesting version of that initial premise.
The cooldown above ult is the cooldown on non used kit. So you can use Dagger’s abilities, switch to Cloak and then know when to switch back because it tells you when they get off cooldown.
My Support main, no question, UNTIL ULTRON!
She's all caked up on a Tuesday
I hope they add Sleepwalker
Cozy is gonna be something else for this game.
As a usual support player and hel lover in smite, this will be my main day 1
I can already see "DAGGER/CLOAK ONLY TO GM"
Hm. I think those cooldowns that is above the ult is the other’s cooldowns. Maybe just to give you an indication when the other character has their abilities all set.
As a strategist main... Finally another rep! That being said, everyone looks so fun and unique to play! Only 2 more days!!
The character style is extremely similar to Hel from Smite, stance character where 1 stance is about healing and other stance is more aggressive.
I love cloak and dagger and this just makes it better I think I’ll attempt to main them
The ult deals damage, slows enemies and heal allys
I think Cloak does crazy damage. I think ult does heals for allies, plus slows and damages enemies
Thanks for the video. Cloak and Dagger look very interesting.
As a strategist main Cloak and Dagger are definitely a solid pick
Wow this one looks spectacular 😮
This is a really cool concept I hope they have more two characters in one. Gambit and rogue would be cool. Or nightcrawler and anyone could work well like he teleports them out and comes in
Given Cloak and dagger's relationship and struggles with bigotry and racism and how their powers work it makes sense.
Rogue from a design choice makes no sense in a shooter. She will be either the worse character in the game because they don't know to tune her ability to disable people.
Or she will be most op character in the game for the same reason.
Two kit in price of one.They are definitelly will be hard to get use to but fun.Only two more days.
"We have no idea what it does."
There's an eye with a slash on it. If that doesn't cause blindness I'll be very surprised.
Haha I point that out later :)
@@CozyRivals the problem with not scripting out a video eh? :P
The timer was at 8 seconds and they turned back into dagger so that counter is still unknown
I'm glad we got a new stratagist but imma still main iron fist
So I find I funny you said it didn't matter if they hit star lord with the wall because he has auto aim, because if you watch you'll notice his lock on stops moving and when he fires after Goin back to C&D's POV, starlords bullets are now clearly missing, meaning the blind also disables his auto aim sense he technically doesn't have LOS. Also the cool down that appears when they switch is 100% showing the cool down on daggers wall sense C&D don't share cooldowns, so that's how's up to show yu your other stances CDs so you can better manage your switches and know something is off CD before swapping.
My one quibble was that Cloak was always the defensive one, so if there was going to be a "healer" of the two, it should be cloak. But it looks like they are both supports just in different ways. Dagger does heals and Cloak does damage prevention.
This character's premise is literally just being cooler Moira with more utility, and I'm all in for it
this is for kiriko mains for sure
It's basically Moira from Overwatch but with some added utility.
Man, this game is gonna be so good, I can’t wait!
Where do I get that Jeff hoodie !!
Since they showed the Eye of Agamotto again, what makes Dr. Strange and Hawkeye's ultimates different? It seems like they both do the same thing🤔
Dr. Stranges ult freezes enemies and projects their astral forms out of their body. Hawkeyes ult doesn't freeze them but takes afterimages of them that Hawkeye can hit. So, imagine you're fighting a really mobile character, you pop the ult and you have a frozen afterimage that you can use that won't move so you can still make the kill.
Hawkeye ult will be so key for killing dives like Venom
Whats all that movement back there
It would be cool if you could select skins separately for the two of them
I'm seriously hoping that Wolverine is gonna be a brawl or dive tank instead of a DPS. Brawl makes most sense for self sustain.
I'm definitely going to try out this game 👊🏿