Done this many times, just want to add one thing. After grinding the bevel , putting it on a wire wheel, will take off the finer splinters, making it easier to clean up with the nut. Also a bit of spray lubricant is always helpful at this time.
I usually use 2 nuts when I have room. jam them together while lining up the outside edge where the cut needs to be. I use the nut as a guide for the cut. once both bolts are off, I wire wheel the cut to smooth it out. Another trick is to place the head of the bolt on a Drill and use the drill to spin the bolt as you grind down the end with the fresh cut.
This is an old, but good trick. I can only add that you should make sure that the nut is a harder steel than the bolt. I keep a set a very hard nuts on hand for this purpose.
another great tip; never ceases to amaze me that people can be so negative to give a thumbs down on someone making a video offering info free of charge - especially when the video itself is not shoddy work but is well done & watchable - thanks for your videos 65
I've actually done this many times before ad it does work really well. I also found out that if you cut a bolt with a portable band saw it doesn't really mess up the threads. Great video 65FORD!!!
Great thanks, that's what I was thinking but wasn't sure if it would work, I hate it when I don't have the right size bolt, most people don't realize how long it takes to go buy something you need for a project
Great tip!!! Ive used this method for years and save a TON of time. You REALLY remember how good this tip is when you cut one and forget to do this Ha Ha
Awesome, all the work we have done on our farm and in our shop and growing up, I can't believe I did not know this...I bet my Dad did and didn't tell me....anyway...Your my new Dad...Thanks again....
Thank you! I will be doing an engine rebuild on a Cadillac 4.9L engine and there is a TSB stating to do this to the head bolts so that they do not bottom out and strip the aluminum block threads. Was wondering how the hell I would accomplish what they were describing, but this explains it fully.
Cant beat the old tricks, yep i used to do that about 20 years ago at the factory i worked at, the bench grinder was really handy :-D Its one of those tricks like double nutting to remove a stud, simple but worked for most studs :-D I also used to re dress the end of broken taps so they could be used as thread chasers, usually to clean the paint out of newly made sunbed casings.
Learned alot of things i would have never thought of otherwise from this channel, but this one was not new to me :) Very effective though, everyone should know about this trick! :)
I have always put a nut or two on the bolt like you did but have always used a hack saw because growing up I never had power tools like angle grinders, chop saws, sawzalls, etc.... I never thought about tapering the end of the bolt, I will give that a try next time. Thank you.
I've spent many hours pushing a hack saw back and forth. It's enjoyable to pull it out once in a while and enjoy the peace and quiet while I cut something.
Another way is no grinding. Start cutting and score the circumstance of the bolt, then finish the cut. If it has been scored the thread on the opposite side has been removed and will not be pushed out.
Hey 65, good tip, I always used a hacksaw and triangled file to do the same thing, it would be best to have a nut to back off the cut end to clean it up. Thanks
what about a damaged bolt that has some impact damge to the ends.... can you just do your angle trick with the grinder. im worried about starting the nut on the bolt . i was thinking just grinding down one side (damaged side) so that the nut could start without resistance. thoughts?
another great weapon for bunged up threads on a larger bolt or any but larger the better is a hammer and a nut but you have to be able to get at least a full nut of engagement or close to it. Put the nut on place nut and bolt on a hard surface like thick steel and beat the snot out of it a few time turn the nut and repeat until results are achieved.
oh btw don't just tap holes just to clean threads or use a dye on threads that just need to be cleaned I saw someones comment about that. what your doing if it's done repeatedly on maintenance routines will eventually ruin threads. I mean sometimes you have to but if you can clean threads by any other means besides using a tap or a die you will saving the threads.
you know while I'm at it I should be producing videos like what you have but I'm going to through another one of my favorite secrets out there. finding center of objects can be difficult for many but there is a way for finding dead center easily without paper. let's say you have an odd number 15" 7/8" take one away from 15=14 half of 14=7 now for the hard part brace yourself 7+8 =15 take the bottom x it by 2 always = 16 answer 7" and 15/16" now even is even easier let's say we had 14 7/8" half of 14= 7 now just take the bottom number of the fraction 8*2=16 leave the top number alone answer 7" and 7/16" easy!!!!
I use an electric drill or lathe to spin the bolt, and then cut it that way with an abrasive-wheel. Then it cuts evenly all around instead of smushing it off to one side
It's funny that when I was young cutting threaded stuff , you had to be cautious or you would dick it up. Now I don't even think about it. I can cut one with whatever is available to use, even a torch and a file. Great videos
How would you do it once the bolt is fitted through somewhere already? I installed something on the deck of my boat and realised the bolts I used are a lot longer than I need them :/ They stick out quite a bit right above a seating area.
Oh you tease! Fair enough. Thought it would be a very small chance it would be a Snap On. What is the brand if any of it? Would it be from a basic kit that would of come with a vehicle when new or is it a basic DIY store brand name?
ziggy2070 I haven't touched it as I was going to do a video on it but the overall casting looks like a cheap tool. I tried to read it but can't make out a brand. I'll record myself cleaning it up and if I think people will find it entertaining, I'll post a short video.
+sixtyfiveford You may as well add it to the next video in the form of dead space filler. it also occurs to me that it prob was a tool used by the people who may of redone the tarmac and white lines.
+billfromelma I know it sounds counter-intuitive but, Never. They will ruin your transmission. I have a close friend who rebuild transmission for 10 years and would always remark on the people who paid good money to have this done only to have their car go another week or few months before major failure. The transmissions have a ton of fluid passages with bends everywhere that accumulate worn clutch material. It will sit undisturbed in these bends, causing no damage to the transmission ever. A flush will loosen these small clumps and they will converge and combined will clog entire passages. The transmission have a filter to keep it clean.
+billfromelma I agree with Moe, we have a 1990 Ford Econoline and the fluid has never been changed, it has 230,000 miles on it and the fluid is as clear as water, mine used MERCON fluid. Years ago on a Ford forum they told me the same thing, if you have over 100,000 miles on it do NOT change the fluid.
I've been doing something resemble this for years but more dumb and lazy. Instead of going 45 around it I would only do like 25-30 degree on 1 quarter maybe half. Everytime i had to do this it was a situation where I didn't have access to a grinder and i got so used to it that i just never stopped. It use a file and grind away just the bare minimum to get it to thread, it looks shit and highly suspect but it works
good video. I have used the nut trick before, but never bothered with adding an angle at the edge . using the nut to "rethread" the bolt on exit is enough in my experience. Have you considered making a few videos on tricks to remove rusted/seized bolts ? I have seen quite a few methods floating online but never a video putting them all together and comparing them. Currently I have a siezed bolt that is broken inside the place where it threads, and i dont have access to it to put a drill in order to try a left handed drill bit. Im probably going to use My Dremel for that task as the dremmel is more likely to access the spot.
+tuga2112 My welder is my go to method for heating and extracting them. I've also used the dremel to cut a flat head screw slot with mixed results. ua-cam.com/video/39vnfn9t288/v-deo.html
sixtyfiveford im stunned that the asphalt wsent sweeped before paint ! but funny to have the print in paint and the wrench too ! i once found a nice wrench inside the inner wheel fender in a rolls royce from 73 , nice kept car that needed rust preventer (under coating, dinitrol) and all uner ar needed to come off ! i still have it since the owner didnt want it back ! lots of tools comes with cool history !
another great trick is knowing tpi and drill sizes no chart no internet no problem. 1"/tpi=thread pitch thread pitch minus bolt diameter equals drill size. it's not as accurate as a starrett dill tap chart but I guarantee it will work. the other other thing about knowing tpi is knowing thread engagement well 1" bolt with 8tpi one revolution equals .125, 1/8" hmmm... what would happen if we only turned it one flat simple .125/6..... threads bolts screws are simple but in reality there more complex and have many more uses that people don't realize. some of the best measuring equipment that can measure stuff smaller than the hair on your head is all ran off from threads.
Done this many times, just want to add one thing. After grinding the bevel , putting it on a wire wheel, will take off the finer splinters, making it easier to clean up with the nut. Also a bit of spray lubricant is always helpful at this time.
I’ve had reasonable results just doing the 45 degree bevel on the end but the added nut part is just genius!! Will be using that one for sure.
I usually use 2 nuts when I have room. jam them together while lining up the outside edge where the cut needs to be. I use the nut as a guide for the cut.
once both bolts are off, I wire wheel the cut to smooth it out.
Another trick is to place the head of the bolt on a Drill and use the drill to spin the bolt as you grind down the end with the fresh cut.
This is an old, but good trick. I can only add that you should make sure that the nut is a harder steel than the bolt. I keep a set a very hard nuts on hand for this purpose.
Thanks man! I’m restoring an old vise and need a specific length so that it rotates, you saved me a lot of trouble finding the exact size
another great tip; never ceases to amaze me that people can be so negative to give a thumbs down on someone making a video offering info free of charge - especially when the video itself is not shoddy work but is well done & watchable - thanks for your videos 65
Thanks. I guess you can't please everyone.
I've actually done this many times before ad it does work really well. I also found out that if you cut a bolt with a portable band saw it doesn't really mess up the threads. Great video 65FORD!!!
+Love2boat92 Thanks for watching.
sixtyfiveford Welcome.
Great thanks, that's what I was thinking but wasn't sure if it would work, I hate it when I don't have the right size bolt, most people don't realize how long it takes to go buy something you need for a project
Brilliant. I was about to buy a tool to try to do this. Wish I was as smart and resourceful as you man.
Love this video, straight to the fucking point, no bullshit, no extra shit talk, no bullshit advice, just step by step, fucking love it.
Hey 65f👋 I thought of this myself years ago & it do work. Good advice 👍
That's a tip I've been doing for a long time but I think your video will help a lot of guys out there.
+wyattoneable Yeah, I figured a lot of guys would know.
Great tip!!! Ive used this method for years and save a TON of time. You REALLY remember how good this tip is when you cut one and forget to do this Ha Ha
Wow ive cut
bolts before and never knew this! Actually need to cut a few bolts tmr from 4 inches to 3.5 inches.
Thanks so much!!
Awesome, all the work we have done on our farm and in our shop and growing up, I can't believe I did not know this...I bet my Dad did and didn't tell me....anyway...Your my new Dad...Thanks again....
+TheVirginiaStew Haha, thanks for watching.
Thank you! I will be doing an engine rebuild on a Cadillac 4.9L engine and there is a TSB stating to do this to the head bolts so that they do not bottom out and strip the aluminum block threads. Was wondering how the hell I would accomplish what they were describing, but this explains it fully.
Needed some water pump bolts, but the hardware store didn't have the right length. This trick worked like a charm!
Nicely done.
That's awesome
I've been doing it wrong for decades
Something so simple I've been making it way to hard
Cheers for sharing
good demo on that. a bandsaw and a belt sander is the easiest way but what you had was almost just as good
Thank you for the info you guys saved me $200. Plus alot of headaches. Thanks a bunch.
+billfromelma Great. Thanks for watching.
I asked Google this question and it brought me here. Great explanation and demo of how to do this successfully. Thanks!
There is a small hooded cutting bit you can put on a drill place on end of the cut bar and it will bevel the end - saves any grinding accidents
Cant beat the old tricks, yep i used to do that about 20 years ago at the factory i worked at, the bench grinder was really handy :-D
Its one of those tricks like double nutting to remove a stud, simple but worked for most studs :-D
I also used to re dress the end of broken taps so they could be used as thread chasers, usually to clean the paint out of newly made sunbed casings.
+zx8401ztv That's a great idea for old taps.
Learned alot of things i would have never thought of otherwise from this channel, but this one was not new to me :)
Very effective though, everyone should know about this trick! :)
+muh1h1 It's a handy trick.
NEAT, I've done that many times, I also use my lathe, spin it while cutting and then very easy to put a little taper on it.
this is the way I do it too,always works everytime. Thanks Moe for showing others.
+James Rice Thanks for watching.
many thanks, will save me a world of pain (I've just learnt that I needed to use thread length, not overall length when ordering new bolts, oops!)
Good tip, what kind of thin cutting wheel did you use? why don't you put a link so you can get a little kick back on each purchase of the wheel?
Don't forget to check out my NEW wrench at the end of the video.
What would I do without UA-cam?? Thank you Sir!!!
I'm glad you liked it.
Thanks for posting...a great service to a novice like me.
Thank you for this video, I was struggling with this for a long time! very helpful.
I have always put a nut or two on the bolt like you did but have always used a hack saw because growing up I never had power tools like angle grinders, chop saws, sawzalls, etc.... I never thought about tapering the end of the bolt, I will give that a try next time. Thank you.
I've spent many hours pushing a hack saw back and forth. It's enjoyable to pull it out once in a while and enjoy the peace and quiet while I cut something.
nice trick, never had much luck with butter
+tblbaby You have to freeze it really good.
Thanks mate;just goin' out to do mine now I know how to
Another way is no grinding. Start cutting and score the circumstance of the bolt, then finish the cut. If it has been scored the thread on the opposite side has been removed and will not be pushed out.
Thank You! I really needed this.
Glad it was helpful!
Late to the party but THANKS none the less !!!!!
That is an urban camo wrench! Good eye, man.
Just like butter brother! and Babs. (from SNL)
Good tip Moe, I started doing this a few years ago.
+old64goat Thanks.
Thanks for the tip this will save a lot of cursing! Lol
Hey 65, good tip, I always used a hacksaw and triangled file to do the same thing, it would be best to have a nut to back off the cut end to clean it up. Thanks
+1fanger A hacksaw will leave a lot nicer cut than the abrasive wheel I used.
So simple and effective 🙌🏼🙌🏼
As soon as I saw you put the bolt on first I was like “dang, why didn’t I think of that”
what about a damaged bolt that has some impact damge to the ends.... can you just do your angle trick with the grinder. im worried about starting the nut on the bolt . i was thinking just grinding down one side (damaged side) so that the nut could start without resistance. thoughts?
another great weapon for bunged up threads on a larger bolt or any but larger the better is a hammer and a nut but you have to be able to get at least a full nut of engagement or close to it. Put the nut on place nut and bolt on a hard surface like thick steel and beat the snot out of it a few time turn the nut and repeat until results are achieved.
The nut on first trick, always works
+Ozzstar It's the simple things that make life easier.
Good tip. I'll be using that and think of your video when I do. Thanks.
+MRrwmac Thanks for watching.
Fabulous!! Do you have a method for removing a rusted bolt ... that broke off and is now stuck?
+shabbydeb I always use my welder or oxy acetylene torch to remove rusted bolts.
+sixtyfiveford ...Thank You!
Great tip. Thank you!
glad to see more videos from you and like always great tips
+AliParada Thanks for watching.
oh btw don't just tap holes just to clean threads or use a dye on threads that just need to be cleaned I saw someones comment about that. what your doing if it's done repeatedly on maintenance routines will eventually ruin threads. I mean sometimes you have to but if you can clean threads by any other means besides using a tap or a die you will saving the threads.
you know while I'm at it I should be producing videos like what you have but I'm going to through another one of my favorite secrets out there. finding center of objects can be difficult for many but there is a way for finding dead center easily without paper. let's say you have an odd number 15" 7/8" take one away from 15=14 half of 14=7 now for the hard part brace yourself 7+8 =15 take the bottom x it by 2 always = 16 answer 7" and 15/16" now even is even easier let's say we had 14 7/8" half of 14= 7 now just take the bottom number of the fraction 8*2=16 leave the top number alone answer 7" and 7/16" easy!!!!
Can I file the end with a hand file? 🤞🏻
I’ll definitely try the nut trick! Thanks mate!
Absolutely
I use an electric drill or lathe to spin the bolt, and then cut it that way with an abrasive-wheel. Then it cuts evenly all around instead of smushing it off to one side
That’s a really good idea
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Yup, that's a good trick, thanks for sharing!
+cubbeezx Thanks for watching.
Thanks. I needed to know this.
Finally!!!! One I knew about. ;)
+Jeff Thomas Awesome. It's a nice trick.
It's funny that when I was young cutting threaded stuff , you had to be cautious or you would dick it up. Now I don't even think about it. I can cut one with whatever is available to use, even a torch and a file. Great videos
+ww321 Thanks for watching.
What disc did you use on the grinder to cut this?
Standard metal cutting cut off disk. They sell for $2-3 at any home improvement store
Great demo... thx alot
This is a great idea!
How would you do it once the bolt is fitted through somewhere already? I installed something on the deck of my boat and realised the bolts I used are a lot longer than I need them :/
They stick out quite a bit right above a seating area.
Should use anti-seize on threads when straightening/fixing the threads with a nut
Are we going to see you restore that spanner?
+ziggy2070 I thought about it, but I believe it is a cheap Chinese one.
Oh you tease!
Fair enough. Thought it would be a very small chance it would be a Snap On. What is the brand if any of it? Would it be from a basic kit that would of come with a vehicle when new or is it a basic DIY store brand name?
ziggy2070
I haven't touched it as I was going to do a video on it but the overall casting looks like a cheap tool. I tried to read it but can't make out a brand. I'll record myself cleaning it up and if I think people will find it entertaining, I'll post a short video.
+sixtyfiveford You may as well add it to the next video in the form of dead space filler. it also occurs to me that it prob was a tool used by the people who may of redone the tarmac and white lines.
thanks bro perceft and simple
As always great tips.
+scottsinfl Thanks Man.
You should apply some sort of light-oil lube like WD-40 or Deep-Creep on the bolt-threads before unscrewing the nut
Questions what do you think about the transmission flush that dealers sell? Is it worth it?
+billfromelma I know it sounds counter-intuitive but, Never. They will ruin your transmission. I have a close friend who rebuild transmission for 10 years and would always remark on the people who paid good money to have this done only to have their car go another week or few months before major failure. The transmissions have a ton of fluid passages with bends everywhere that accumulate worn clutch material. It will sit undisturbed in these bends, causing no damage to the transmission ever. A flush will loosen these small clumps and they will converge and combined will clog entire passages. The transmission have a filter to keep it clean.
+billfromelma I agree with Moe, we have a 1990 Ford Econoline and the fluid has never been changed, it has 230,000 miles on it and the fluid is as clear as water, mine used MERCON fluid.
Years ago on a Ford forum they told me the same thing, if you have over 100,000 miles on it do NOT change the fluid.
a great little tip! thanks.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Great tip! Thanks 👍
Thanks.
Nice! Thank you for tip
Excellent 👍😊
Thank you dude!
I've been doing something resemble this for years but more dumb and lazy. Instead of going 45 around it I would only do like 25-30 degree on 1 quarter maybe half. Everytime i had to do this it was a situation where I didn't have access to a grinder and i got so used to it that i just never stopped. It use a file and grind away just the bare minimum to get it to thread, it looks shit and highly suspect but it works
What blade did you use on you grinder??
amzn.to/2Kg6H2j It's a metal cut off disc. You can pick them up at any hardware store.
@@sixtyfiveford thanks so much for the info
1:27 got it so this is past my experience level 😂 i would surely cut off my finger
good video.
I have used the nut trick before, but never bothered with adding an angle at the edge . using the nut to "rethread" the bolt on exit is enough in my experience.
Have you considered making a few videos on tricks to remove rusted/seized bolts ? I have seen quite a few methods floating online but never a video putting them all together and comparing them.
Currently I have a siezed bolt that is broken inside the place where it threads, and i dont have access to it to put a drill in order to try a left handed drill bit. Im probably going to use My Dremel for that task as the dremmel is more likely to access the spot.
+tuga2112 My welder is my go to method for heating and extracting them. I've also used the dremel to cut a flat head screw slot with mixed results. ua-cam.com/video/39vnfn9t288/v-deo.html
beautiful!
Great tip, thanks.
Thanks Man.
Just like butter.
+MrMunchiemo :-)
Behold the power of the incline plane
+Jonah Brady It is an amazing simple machine.
good tip Moe!
+Robb's Homemade Life Thanks Robb.
Perfect thanks!
haha ,cool new wrench !!
+transdetendal I was surprised to find it, especially with it painted like it was.
sixtyfiveford
im stunned that the asphalt wsent sweeped before paint ! but funny to have the print in paint and the wrench too ! i once found a nice wrench inside the inner wheel fender in a rolls royce from 73 , nice kept car that needed rust preventer (under coating, dinitrol) and all uner ar needed to come off ! i still have it since the owner didnt want it back ! lots of tools comes with cool history !
Brilliant!
another great trick is knowing tpi and drill sizes no chart no internet no problem. 1"/tpi=thread pitch thread pitch minus bolt diameter equals drill size. it's not as accurate as a starrett dill tap chart but I guarantee it will work. the other other thing about knowing tpi is knowing thread engagement well 1" bolt with 8tpi one revolution equals .125, 1/8" hmmm... what would happen if we only turned it one flat simple .125/6..... threads bolts screws are simple but in reality there more complex and have many more uses that people don't realize. some of the best measuring equipment that can measure stuff smaller than the hair on your head is all ran off from threads.
+Phillip Jordan Good info.
Thank you! :)
This is such a simple procedure, but can make big matters.
well thats pretty smart.
+Rinoa Super-Genius Thanks.
Thanks Moe!
+1954BJohn Thanks Man.
Thank you
great tip
+zipperrrrr Thanks for watching.
Good tip Moe
Thanks for watching.
Thanks mate
Thanks👌
Nice one...
+Curiosity Thanks Man.
Thanks!