Reason I hate seeing people use power tools to start bolts This is the common result of being a stupid person and not a mechanic I hate seeing what they screw up 😢 Do it right and what is the big hurry?? Looking at phone
@@AsTheWheelsTurn it's not returning it to spec', it's a farmer's repair, a bodge, shade tree fix. where do you go when that thread fails, there's no material left.
just sacked a mechanic for using a power tool to cut threads! what planet are some people on. also u should be grinding a line down two sides of the bolt for the waste material to escape
give the bloke a prize any body else would would use a thread insert putting odd sized screws will only end up being put in the wrong order and messing another thread up
“There’s is not a single thing wrong with that” - are you kidding me? There is barely a single thing right with it. There is nowhere near enough material there for that to be any use whatsoever. The tapping size hole for an M5 thread is 4.2mm and this hole has had the threads ripped out of it. That complete and utter botch job of throwing a coarser thread down a stripped bore will withstand next to no torque at all. You can even see that the thread it has cut is an absolute mess. Good grief, this has to be the best advert for your competitor ever.
@bertiewooster3326 Yep, get you home bodge alright. But this guy said "there's not a single thing wrong with that" as if it was equivalent to a proper fix.
I like it. Now me, I would never have thought about doing something like that and would have probably scratched up a nut and bolt and engineered something....but don't tell anyone, this is just between you and me.
You can always re-tap the hole to the next size like a standard size instead of metrics! I've done that method to fix a stripped out screw before but I took an extra step with marking the location with painting the spot! You could stamp the location but you can't do that to a screw but paint seems to work easier!
I disagree, Colin! All the customer usually wants is their tool working, and, as long as the customer is informed that there was an issue, and how it was repaired, I see zero ripoff! After all, you are saving them from the cost and labour charge of installing a helicoil@@Colin-Fenix
Like the old saying goes, if I only knew then what I know now - I could have saved so much time. Great fix thanks. I'd better subscribe so I don't waste any more fixes :-)
Great job! I've been doing that on Stihl equipment as well. I love the comments...."why don't you Helicoil it? Why don't you "just" drill it one size larger" BLA BLA BLA lol
Man! Happy I found your video. I stripped one port of my starter to my bike. I repaired it, was in a rush to throw it back on and that one bolt was giving me issues and sure enough, stripped it. Think I can use you technique to repair and get my bike back up and running. Cheers🤙🏼
I just got an Ariens snowblower built in 1979 and have it's 2011 equivalent next to it. The newer one uses self tapping bolts for the handle bars while the old one not only has a second layer of steel at the mounting points but uses captive nuts which are easy to replace. I'm putting the same, but newer, engine on it as it's tired but everything else is pristine and built like a tank.
Thanks for the information. I have a stripped bolt inster in my jeep on the frsme rail to attach the bumper. The size sais 10.9 which would i need to fix that
Great! I like your idea. I have a engine mounting bolt stripped out on my Sears Craftsman 6.75 hp. Tecumseh Engine. How do I get the correct self tapping bolt for that??
The notion that a company like Echo ever drilled and tapped holes individually is ludicrous, as is the idea that inserting a helicoil is difficult or inconvenient. These tri-lobed, thread forming screws work well when properly installed in a very specific hole size, as in initial production, but once they fail you'll be back to the utterly reliable helicoil.
The last thing I look for is a technician who's a hack looking to save time. It's aluminum you can drill and helicoil it in under 60 seconds and it'll be better than it was originally. Take a little pride in your work be the best you can be or don't bother.
Over 20 years ago I used to work at a auto shop. When we would change the transmission fluid & filters sometimes the bolts for the pan would strip out. We would do the same thing we had a bunch of different sizes of the self tapping bolts. It was so much faster then using a helicoil kits. There is very little of a negative that could be said about using them.
So you show us a screw at 0:57 and 1:13. Are these the same screw? Does this technique work with cars? We just have to find a same-dimension screw but it needs to be self-tapping?
Hey, thanks for the tip! I have a Husqvarna 371 xp that the top cover bolt holes and my brake bolt hole are stripped. Do you know which screw I would need to replace with this fix? Thanks!
Great. I stripped out the screw that adjusts the roller on my sliding glass door. Do you think ACE would have that? I have to go to ACE hardware anyway to find out what size the screw is anyway.
I have an e-bike where the threaded mirror hole is stripped and needs repair for the mirror to be put back in. ( it requires a certain diamater thread to work. If the new threaded hole is too big the mirror won't fit. ???
Did you use a bigger screw to make your own threads ? How can I fix motor mount holes on my lawn mower frame where the motor bounced around and they got bigger plus I need to rethread holes cause the screw just sits inside the hole.. I feel if I don't fix my frame holes it will just wiggle around again?Can you help me
I have a larger carborator fuel inlet that takes a little paper filter, we removed it and now it's like the threads are stripped. It just slides back in. Don't even got to turn it. Like it's not catching the threads. But the threads on the carb and the inlet peice seem fine. Its almost like the fitting has shrank. Even though it was perfectly tight before we removed it. Can you give me some advice as to how I can fix this without replacing the entire carborator.
I discovered this accidentally when i had no choice because the only screw available has a coarse thread and it did work and cut its own threads out of a stripped same m6 size but finer threads
This will not last. The previous threads were compromised, so the “new” threads will also fail in short order. In a spot holding a plastic cover or such, this would work, to hold a cylinder on, I wouldn’t trust it. Hell-Coil the hole and be done with it. You’ll have a properly repaired hole, and spare inserts for future jobs…….win win.
Well he did call it a hack in his own title. I'm with you, it's not much more work to put a thread insert in. Plus mix match bolt size and thread pitches is a serious pet peeve of mine.
I just changed my radiator and I screwed the bolt to the main bolt sideways so that transmission cooler line wouldn't fit in, when I tried to put it back in it wouldn't even start going in straight, would I be able to buy a starter bolt piece like that? Thanks for your time ♥
Yeah this is really dumb. You can count the treads and see that the self tapping screw is a different thread pattern. A good technician would retap and install a time sert or a heli coil.
‘Nother 👍 dude! Great time-saving and effective fix. Only the greedy would Helicoil if this method is possible. The one thing I think about, though, is repeatability in terms of removing and reinstalling that recoil in the future if that one screw is different than the other three. Maybe a red paint marker on the head of the screw and all around where it lives on and under the recoil cover so it’s obvious to the next guy that this screw goes in this hole. Otherwise you take the risk of rethreading other holes and not having the correct screws.
So here's my situation....the bolt hole beginning threads are stripped, ...but most of the threads are good I'd say about 95% .....so if u I use the same size tap to fix the beginning threads....is that possible? I'm trying to avoid using a heli coil....I'd appreciate your reply...thnx
This is impossible. If both screws are 5mm and the thread was stripped all the way through, then there would not be any material to cut a new thread in. Obviously there was undamaged thread at the end of the hole and that is what makes it appear as if the thread was repaired.
Stihl does indeed use the spiffy self tapping screws. Unfortunately, they also strip out, which is the predicament I'm currently in. Drill and tap for M6?
Good hint. Been cheating for 30 yrs, on Stihl, Echo, Husky, and what ever else strips out in aluminum, with various other odd screws/ bolts , from decades of collecting, even used some drywall screws a few times, worked great.
Thanks for the video and info! I stripped my mini bike clutch bolt and the clutch shaft hole is stripped as well. Real pain. I tried tighten it with a impact driver and made things worse. Hopefully it will be a simple fix. Thanks again.
The reason most aluminum threads that are stripped is because mechanics use power/air tools to put the bolt on. They should use there fingers are turn bolt 3 to 4 turns,then use a wrench, then torque bolt to spec.
a 10MM bolt into an aluminum engine block (for each of 4 ignition coil hol-down bolts in an old Toyota Corolla) is easy to strip out (...so be careful!) and the bolt can be replaced with a same-size by a different pitch self-tapping bolt and you are done!
I generally don't see much of a reason to use a helicoil I mean I'm already tapping it Ill just use a bitter bolt I might have to drill something else but it will have more holding strength because it's bigger
I'll swear you wait to do a video, till a train is coming up to that crossing and about to honk! Love it! They don't do that where I am!
Thanks Thanks an Thanks again.!! I bought a used lawnmower and it would not stop leaking oil around valve the cover. This info solved the problem.😊😊
Reason I hate seeing people use power tools to start bolts
This is the common result of being a stupid person and not a mechanic
I hate seeing what they screw up 😢
Do it right and what is the big hurry?? Looking at phone
that's the way to go, make it the next guys problem.
😂
how is this making it the next guys problem?
@@AsTheWheelsTurn it's not returning it to spec', it's a farmer's repair, a bodge, shade tree fix. where do you go when that thread fails, there's no material left.
@@dogpaw775 got it! thanks for taking the time to explain.
@@dogpaw775 it could still be tapped.
You, good Sir!! Just saved me mountains of time and money!!
God bless you Sir, thank you!!
One like from india...my friend.. you just made my life easy..
just sacked a mechanic for using a power tool to cut threads! what planet are some people on. also u should be grinding a line down two sides of the bolt for the waste material to escape
give the bloke a prize any body else would would use a thread insert putting odd sized screws will only end up being put in the wrong order and messing another thread up
It's just a self tapper !!! Helicoil instead
Nah
“There’s is not a single thing wrong with that” - are you kidding me? There is barely a single thing right with it. There is nowhere near enough material there for that to be any use whatsoever. The tapping size hole for an M5 thread is 4.2mm and this hole has had the threads ripped out of it. That complete and utter botch job of throwing a coarser thread down a stripped bore will withstand next to no torque at all. You can even see that the thread it has cut is an absolute mess. Good grief, this has to be the best advert for your competitor ever.
I agree. Nuts.
Yes, he screwed up that hole big time. I can't believe he posted the result. 😂
Look chums this is a get you home bodge when nothing else do it's fine for that ! You are clearly not heavy duty marine engineers are you?
@bertiewooster3326 Yep, get you home bodge alright. But this guy said "there's not a single thing wrong with that" as if it was equivalent to a proper fix.
I feel like saying “I’m a French model” That ghetto fix is frigging awful.
I don't work on these but I like your channel
I like it. Now me, I would never have thought about doing something like that and would have probably scratched up a nut and bolt and engineered something....but don't tell anyone, this is just between you and me.
m5 thread strpped out is the tapping size for m6, i would prefer to tap and use a m6 socket cap screw ,to ensure the job does not return
Exactly, that is no good
If the part you are putting the six mil. screw thru has a big enough hole. Many fixes for many situations.
And I would tap and change all 4 screws so the next person (owner ?) that takes off the recoil can mix and still match all screws.
@@danielrobert7181 even better but mowermedic says its a hack not a full repair
Thanks for the tip! Is there a product to seal around base of breather tube? New tube, gasket and plate on vanguard but still leaks.
Should be no liquid oil at the breather, if there is then the engine has excessive blow by
You can always re-tap the hole to the next size like a standard size instead of metrics! I've done that method to fix a stripped out screw before but I took an extra step with marking the location with painting the spot! You could stamp the location but you can't do that to a screw but paint seems to work easier!
Tapping is the correct way for sure !
If you are doing this at home, fine. If he is charging customers, he’s ripping them off! 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼
I disagree, Colin! All the customer usually wants is their tool working, and, as long as the customer is informed that there was an issue, and how it was repaired, I see zero ripoff! After all, you are saving them from the cost and labour charge of installing a helicoil@@Colin-Fenix
Back in the day with our mini bikes we just ran in a 1 1/4 x 20 lol thank you mower medic🤙
I can't believe I missed this yesterday. Great Job... Quick, Simple....Awesome. Git er Done !!!! Lol
Thx for the info! Consider a shop vac with small nozzle to vacuum shavings and debris would be my respectful suggestion.
Cheers!
Like the old saying goes, if I only knew then what I know now - I could have saved so much time. Great fix thanks. I'd better subscribe so I don't waste any more fixes :-)
Great job! I've been doing that on Stihl equipment as well. I love the comments...."why don't you Helicoil it? Why don't you "just" drill it one size larger" BLA BLA BLA lol
Nice fix and a timesaver too!
Pretty darn good tip!! Thanks for sharing and demonstrating an easy fix!! 🤩 If you don't follow MM1's advice then you are, "screwed" 😂
I'll get your coat.
What will the fix torque to ? Or will the fix strip before it reaches torque spec
You are a CHAMPION amongst men.
Man! Happy I found your video. I stripped one port of my starter to my bike. I repaired it, was in a rush to throw it back on and that one bolt was giving me issues and sure enough, stripped it. Think I can use you technique to repair and get my bike back up and running. Cheers🤙🏼
i have an older ariens riding mower where the carb bolt goes into engine,,the engine hole is stripped..can i use this method and what size?? thanks
good stuff I could use a whole organizer with tapping screws..
Thanks for the information. I wasn't aware of these screws from Echo I will have to get some to keep on hand!!
Where n who sell this echo screw
@@pleung5540 He shows the Echo part number in the video. You should be able to get this screw from any Echo dealer.
I just got an Ariens snowblower built in 1979 and have it's 2011 equivalent next to it. The newer one uses self tapping bolts for the handle bars while the old one not only has a second layer of steel at the mounting points but uses captive nuts which are easy to replace. I'm putting the same, but newer, engine on it as it's tired but everything else is pristine and built like a tank.
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I did same , it works like charm.
AWESOME DUDE, GAVE AN. IDEA!!!😊😊😊
What did the end of the screw push out of place when you wound it in ?
Thanks for the information. I have a stripped bolt inster in my jeep on the frsme rail to attach the bumper. The size sais 10.9 which would i need to fix that
can i do this with a thermostat housing hole that is stripped on a car engine? Nissan Versa?
That’s a great little industry trick…👍👍👍
Welcome advice. Thank you.
Great! I like your idea. I have a engine mounting bolt stripped out on my Sears Craftsman 6.75 hp. Tecumseh Engine. How do I get the correct self tapping bolt for that??
You don’t just drill it to 3/8 And put a bolt and nut
The notion that a company like Echo ever drilled and tapped holes individually is ludicrous, as is the idea that inserting a helicoil is difficult or inconvenient. These tri-lobed, thread forming screws work well when properly installed in a very specific hole size, as in initial production, but once they fail you'll be back to the utterly reliable helicoil.
I prefer the stronger helicoil method.
strength is the issue
The last thing I look for is a technician who's a hack looking to save time. It's aluminum you can drill and helicoil it in under 60 seconds and it'll be better than it was originally. Take a little pride in your work be the best you can be or don't bother.
Thanks Jeremy for this valuable info.
Next tip is where to find them and somewhere where you can find different lengths.
Over 20 years ago I used to work at a auto shop. When we would change the transmission fluid & filters sometimes the bolts for the pan would strip out. We would do the same thing we had a bunch of different sizes of the self tapping bolts. It was so much faster then using a helicoil kits. There is very little of a negative that could be said about using them.
So you show us a screw at 0:57 and 1:13. Are these the same screw? Does this technique work with cars? We just have to find a same-dimension screw but it needs to be self-tapping?
Hey, thanks for the tip! I have a Husqvarna 371 xp that the top cover bolt holes and my brake bolt hole are stripped. Do you know which screw I would need to replace with this fix? Thanks!
Great hack Jeremy! I usually tap for the next size up cap screw but your idea is a lot easier, thanks!
Me 2 or heli coil it. The screw threads are nearly a size up so they bite good
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1ok so you ARE using a slightly larger size..
Cross thread is better than loctite🤣🤣🤣🤣😊JR in🇨🇦
Would you go a size up from the original bolt diameter or use the same size but with a self tapping bolt?
Wasn't too clear but I think the self-tapping bolt had coarser threads but was the same diameter.
Great. I stripped out the screw that adjusts the roller on my sliding glass door. Do you think ACE would have that? I have to go to ACE hardware anyway to find out what size the screw is anyway.
what do you do when you're dealing with steel?
Great Idea where can I get some of these bolts
can you do it on a lawn mower shaft to attach a blade bolt.
Can I use this for a 2008 honda odyssey tensioner pulley, its in the engine block?
Be back later - Gone hardware shopping. Thanks MM1 - fantastic tip
Does the screw come in a m6 1.00 ?
From where do you get these self tapping bolts? I cant seem to find anything above M4 size? I need M6.
Off old units
I have an e-bike where the threaded mirror hole is stripped and needs repair for the mirror to be put back in. ( it requires a certain diamater thread to work. If the new threaded hole is too big the mirror won't fit. ???
Did you use a bigger screw to make your own threads ? How can I fix motor mount holes on my lawn mower frame where the motor bounced around and they got bigger plus I need to rethread holes cause the screw just sits inside the hole.. I feel if I don't fix my frame holes it will just wiggle around again?Can you help me
I've used copper wire in similar applications. Wrap the bolt with fine threads and stick a few strands in the hole and it will chooch .
I have a larger carborator fuel inlet that takes a little paper filter, we removed it and now it's like the threads are stripped. It just slides back in. Don't even got to turn it. Like it's not catching the threads. But the threads on the carb and the inlet peice seem fine. Its almost like the fitting has shrank. Even though it was perfectly tight before we removed it. Can you give me some advice as to how I can fix this without replacing the entire carborator.
I'm a bit confused here. They both are the same size with the same thread, except on is self tapping?
That’s a great tip
tensioner bolt stripped threads
m47 bmw 320d 163
bolt size is m10x1.5
the threads inside are gone, can i use a self tapping screw?, would it hold
That looks like a steel screw going into an aluminum case. Will it work as good on a steel casting?
Nice tip as long as you have enough material left to re-tap.
Very good information
Thank You very much
Can you put the original bolts back in after that?
I don't think so because it appears the tapping bolt he used has coarser threads. It was a bit unclear.
Stripped my AR15 grip should I try it on it?!! Steel I’m guessing. This just happened help lol
Question I stripped the threads on a big bolt for a four link arm, do they make big self tappers or should I tap the hole and get a bigger bolt?
I probably would have helicoil’d it. Nice tip, thank you for sharing!
there is approved methods to repair a damaged thread, better to use them when a failure can have disastrous consequences.
Did you even watch the video? I covered everything you just commented on
This weed eater must power an aircraft or something?
do they sell those in a bunch of lengths?
I discovered this accidentally when i had no choice because the only screw available has a coarse thread and it did work and cut its own threads out of a stripped same m6 size but finer threads
Ok.... Whats the part number and is it by Echo? I have the same problem on a muffler on a echo backpack blower.
I'm confused, why not use a tap, then use the original or replacement new bolt? is it for hard to access areas?
There are zero threads to tap, hence that’s why you use a larger courser bolt
I prefer a Time-Sert insert over Helicoil or this self-tapping alternative.
This will not last. The previous threads were compromised, so the “new” threads will also fail in short order. In a spot holding a plastic cover or such, this would work, to hold a cylinder on, I wouldn’t trust it.
Hell-Coil the hole and be done with it. You’ll have a properly repaired hole, and spare inserts for future jobs…….win win.
Well he did call it a hack in his own title. I'm with you, it's not much more work to put a thread insert in. Plus mix match bolt size and thread pitches is a serious pet peeve of mine.
Wow, great hack, would this bolt work if screwed on by hand rather than impact drill because of limited space?
I hit the thumbs up, but I already subscribe!! 😆. Great job!
I just changed my radiator and I screwed the bolt to the main bolt sideways so that transmission cooler line wouldn't fit in, when I tried to put it back in it wouldn't even start going in straight, would I be able to buy a starter bolt piece like that? Thanks for your time ♥
can you just use a hand ratchet for this , if you dont have a air / electric ratchet ?
Yes.
Wow, that’s amazing
Can you put a link to the part number and where we can get them? Tks!
I have no idea what u did, u used a harder bolt? Tryna fix my stripped scooter stem
Yeah this is really dumb. You can count the treads and see that the self tapping screw is a different thread pattern. A good technician would retap and install a time sert or a heli coil.
Where can I buy a set or assortment?
Part number is in the video
‘Nother 👍 dude! Great time-saving and effective fix. Only the greedy would Helicoil if this method is possible. The one thing I think about, though, is repeatability in terms of removing and reinstalling that recoil in the future if that one screw is different than the other three. Maybe a red paint marker on the head of the screw and all around where it lives on and under the recoil cover so it’s obvious to the next guy that this screw goes in this hole. Otherwise you take the risk of rethreading other holes and not having the correct screws.
So here's my situation....the bolt hole beginning threads are stripped, ...but most of the threads are good I'd say about 95% .....so if u I use the same size tap to fix the beginning threads....is that possible? I'm trying to avoid using a heli coil....I'd appreciate your reply...thnx
What can I use with a 14 mm long screw
Thanks.👍
Aluminum is easy to strip out, and easy to re-tap.
This is impossible. If both screws are 5mm and the thread was stripped all the way through, then there would not be any material to cut a new thread in. Obviously there was undamaged thread at the end of the hole and that is what makes it appear as if the thread was repaired.
Yeah I agree that this wouldn't be very strong and a longer bolt with a nylock nut on the back would have been a better fix on this job
@@T2D.SteveArcs I just had to do exactly that. Long bolt nylock on back with a standard nut at far end.
@@shadowjack48209 👍
C'mon Man you know the thing
Most likely it's a different thread pitch
Cool. I hope it doesn’t crack the cast metal.
Ur brilliant
Pretty sweet
Nothing in the world wrong with that. A fix is a fix.
Stihl does indeed use the spiffy self tapping screws.
Unfortunately, they also strip out, which is the predicament I'm currently in.
Drill and tap for M6?
Will this work for a stripped out aluminum microtech knife screw hole that requires an M1.8 - 0.35 × 4mm torx screw? Great demonstration.
Good hint. Been cheating for 30 yrs, on Stihl, Echo, Husky, and what ever else strips out in aluminum, with various other odd screws/ bolts , from decades of collecting, even used some drywall screws a few times, worked great.
Thanks for the video and info! I stripped my mini bike clutch bolt and the clutch shaft hole is stripped as well. Real pain. I tried tighten it with a impact driver and made things worse. Hopefully it will be a simple fix. Thanks again.
howd it go ??
The reason most aluminum threads that are stripped is because mechanics use power/air tools to put the bolt on. They should use there fingers are turn bolt 3 to 4 turns,then use a wrench, then torque bolt to spec.
a 10MM bolt into an aluminum engine block (for each of 4 ignition coil hol-down bolts in an old Toyota Corolla) is easy to strip out (...so be careful!) and the bolt can be replaced with a same-size by a different pitch self-tapping bolt and you are done!
I generally don't see much of a reason to use a helicoil I mean I'm already tapping it Ill just use a bitter bolt I might have to drill something else but it will have more holding strength because it's bigger
What’s a bitter bolt?
@@THEMOWERMEDIC1 one that was previously used to hold the brewing vats together at the budweiser plant