The end for gaming keyboards? 💀 Azeron Cyborg Review
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- Could this be a revolutionary gaming keypad that will cause a mass exodus of the keyboard? Well find out in this Azeron Cyborg review! Can an old but very good gamer overcome years of muscle memory to relearn how to play video games? Join us friends as we enter the world of the unknown...
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I keep hearing the same comment on these. "Just use a keyboard".... For me missed keys, fat fingers, losing my place on the keyboard all a struggle for years. Could not get it using a controller either. I have been using the Azeron Compact for about a month now to play COD... MW, Cold War and Vanguard and I love it. Like any new device I was a little clumsy with it at first but quickly realized the potential after several Bot games to get it setup. My patience has definitely paid off. The software rocks and the joystick is exactly what I always imagined I needed once I got it setup. I can move, dodge, quick peek, strafe, throw tactical items, jump in any direction and so much more with just a flick of a finger or thumb movement on the joystick. Your fingers stay in pretty much a fixed position so you don't get lost or have to stretch, reach or move them into odd positions to reach a key. I can honestly say I have never seen so many end match "play of the game" videos featuring me since I got this. Mine looks nothing like the one you reviewed. I don't see the heavy "3d Print" lines. Mine are very light and the majority of the surfaces are glass smooth and I will say your looks very rickety. The first thing I noted on mine when unboxing is how sturdy and well built it was. I give this keypad a ten out of 10!
While not perfect the Azeron is a great keyboard alternative. I have bought 3 different versions of Azeron and am currently using the Cyborg shown in this video. I'm 60 yrs old and when I moved from PS4 to PC I struggled with using a keyboard and mouse, mainly a keyboard wasn't designed for gaming, it's a work around that I could not get the hang of. I probably tried every previous keyboard alternative but after a learning curve (about 2 weeks playing against bots) the Azeron is a great tool that helps me gaming with my son and grandchildren.
I have pretty big hands would you recommend the compact cyborg or the default cyborg?
@@scarycalifornia I would go with the regular Cyborg. I have little girl hands but this thing is so customizable. Order the larger version (20+cm) and you will be set size wise.
@@MNfightingsaintsgaming 😂 thank you sir!
I'm 47 and just oredered it for the same reason. While I've been playing on K&M all my life, I can't play Fortnite well with my son, since I can't reliably hit keys that are a bit further away from AWSD on my super-expensive keyboard. With this gadget, I hope I can remove that limitation. But I expect to suck terribly for at least a few weeks, maybe even few months before my reflexes adopt.
May I ask, what game are you playing on your Azeron? I'm trying to get better at Fortnite to support my son (14) but kids are light-years ahead of my level, haha
Just got my all red cyborg in TODAY bro my k65 mini went into closet!! My hand doesn’t even hurt after 4 hours of practice in destiny 2 pvp!!! Man should have bought LONG time ago!
Are you still using it? How's the learning curve? Is it still good?
@@UrDaddy4Real HATE IT BRO- it was cool for like a week but the joystick is wayyy uncomfortable and you just can't get the fingers to set where you dont hit other keys! waste of 200 bucks! oh and its 3d printed so super light and slides around on desk!
@@jamiescott1062 lol, that's a bummer. Do you think moba or strategy games might make use of it. Cause thats what i intend to use it for.
@@jamiescott1062 needed to see this. Also a D2 sweat here. Thanks for the update!
Great video! You hit the nail on the head. This device comes down to user preference. I departed from the keyboard 16 years ago and have exclusively used game pads ever since. I’ve been through 2 versions of the Nostromo, the Orbweaver, the Tartarus V2, and now the Azeron Cyborg. This game pad is amazing for me. It’s not lost me though, that I have years of experience of high level gaming with a thumb stick so the Cyborg felt very intuitive and I settled right into it. I honestly love this device so much that I’m ordering another 5 units because I don’t want run the risk of then not being available in the future for any reason.
grats on 1k love ur reviews
Watching this video again after ~700h on it, I have to write a recapture of my journey. I did watch this video before buying the Azeron.
Apex Legends is my first FPS game, I am at 1400h atm. I experienced a significant performance drop after switching to the Azeron Cyborg. I also misclicked everything and the movement felt weird. I also missed the rapid spamming of A-D strafes. But hear me out.
I reached the same level of performance after ~100h. I changed the position and angle of the towers 3 times so far, the last change was before 3 weeks. I can easily reach every button now. I now have 2 buttons exclusively for shield cells and syringes, which is a huge game-changer for a quick sip in a fight without having to open the heal selector. I changed the inner dead zone to 70 and am currently waiting for the restrictor ring for the Elite thumbstick. One thing I noticed after being unable to rapidly spam A-D strafes: This is bad practice anyway. You just jiggle with your ass on one point and are an easy target. Instead, I now strafe in all directions without it being hard.
Before switching, my hand was cramping after 3h. With the azeron, moving feels like a smooth flow. I could not for godsakes tapstrafe into a parallel wall bounce before, now I can. Atm I am learning to tapstrafe superglide like leamonhead does.
It was a hard journey, but man am I glad I kept strong to practice. I cannot imagine ever switching back. Gaming on a keyboard just feels so damn weird now. And I never played or had a controller, I am an old Mnk warrior.
I highly suggest trying again. I can send you my layout if you want to try, yours seems a bit complicated to me.
Edit after 2.1k hours:
The restrictor ring is a huge buff. I also got the movement on point now. Superglides redirected with lurches or a backwards tapstrafe to the back feel very natural, mantle jumps are nice, wallbouncing in all flavors are just normal at this point.
I can confidently say: No matter how long you played on whatever input device, switching to an Azeron is worth it.
If i had one thing to complain about: The thumbstick tower should be a bit more supported, so i could actually use the thumbstick click. And the thumbstick tower should be a bit more adjustable in it's position. The cyborg is the second generation, i bet the third one will be their mainstream brakethrough and a huge banger.
On point
Yes people need to be patient and learn it like a new instrument. With new, different peripheral you are going to start out worse but it's a curve. combined with tweaking the layouts and settings and learning the device you tend to progress to eventually equal your former performance and then potentially surpass it. Same thing would happen in the old days with memorizing hotkeys, setting up macros, etc.
I bought one of these last month and have been enjoying it. I’m swapping around between this and my Ducky keyboard depending on the game. Great review
All problems stated in the video sums up to a learning curve. Being a controller player for years this devices is much better for myself then a traditional keyboard.
Going to get mine on Monday, can’t wait
many thanks for this. I've been fascinated by this thing for a while but i was afraid it would be a frustrating experience. your review confirmed my concerns.
The Azeron has been a game changer for me. Being left handed I have always struggled with WASD on the keyboard with my right hand, but this in my right hand my thumb takes care of all that movement. So glad Azeron offer a left handers version of this (used in the right hand)
I'm a lefty and am thinking about buying this as my entry to 'mnk' gaming from a lifetime controller player
Hey fellow lefties, I'm thinking to give my left hand a chance at aiming because my right hand aim is rubbish 😂
Wonder if its worth it to switch to left hand aim? Once I figure which hand will do the aiming, I will order a cyborg
@@Opinion878 If your left handed aim with your left hand (mouse) and use the cyborg in your right hand.
@@bepto4877 i am, just worried about switching mouse to left hand cos i never tried it before
@@Opinion878 Are you left handed? I dont understand why you never used the mouse with your left hand unless your a right handed person. If you are right handed you arent going to be any better with your left.
I also play mostly Apex and are thinking about this or the Razer Tartarus V2. I think the biggest downside for FPS games is the joystick. Sure you could not use it at all but then the question is what should you use it for. I also would have liked a button below the thumb, which I use for the space bar and AltGr.
I have changed the keys I use from the traditional WASD to IJKL, mainly to get less dead keyboard between left and right hands. I also changed using space to jump and left mouse for fire and when you do that you always feel very frustrated for some days. But it will pass and you relearn your muscles, even if you are an old timer as me.
I think the best solution for the Azeron would have been to have a customizable thumb function. Either a joystick or a d-pad that you can change depending on the main game you are playing. I am leaning more towards the Razer now but the mouse switches on the Azeron appeals to me also.
Honestly, if Razer's software wasn't so horrifically bad, I would have stuck with the Tartarus V2. I still have it, and as far as hardware goes, it's a magnificent piece of kit, but god holy damn is the software a stupendous piece of shit. I've been very happy with the Azeron and ReWASD. If ReWASD supported the Tartarus V2, it'd be unstoppable.
Has anybody tried Planetside with this? I'm curious to know how it handles. I'm looking for something viable that's not a keyboard.
Azeron is BEST I got 3 it's hard to learn butt when you got muscle memory it's best kaypad for gaming ❤
I would be interested to know if you tried to use it only as a keyboard and still use your mouse by the side? I'm not sure if i maybe missed that in one of the videos you made about this. But to me it sounds like paired with a mouse things might change a lot?
I did use a mouse with this. The keypad was only for keyboard replacement.
@@DiamondLobbyReviews My bad, I thought the joystick was your mouse replacement. Just realized it's replacing WASD instead...
Yeah I enjoyed it more I think with wasd on the main buttons but by then I was mentally drained from using it.
with the analog stick and shoot with the mouse? For some reason I have to use one or the other, it is not taking both input at the same time. For example moving and shooting…etc. I need help
a lot of games don't let you use certain type stick and a mouse so try dif ones def most don't let you do 360 stick and mouse some do. if all else fails you can use wsad for it though and the mouse
I got mine Jan 1, best keyboard I've purchased. No regrets. If you already play on keyboard and mouse it will be an easy adjustment. I highly recommend
hey man cool vibeo 👍
i just bought mine on saturday and i cannnnnnot wait !! curious on the timing between your order and shipping date. great video btw
It took from Oder date may 27th till today June 9th to get mine literally 2 day shipping all the way to Oklahoma!
@@jamiescott1062 shooot that aint bad at all ! how was your setting up process ? fun ? still in the works to get it adjusted ?
@@YonderPlays welllllll coming from controller(elite 2) mostly it is time consuming to get the azeron set to your hand but key binds is way easy- i took pics of the key binds in the game then alt tab'd to azeron software- only took like 20min to get key binds set for destiny 2 but still working on WHERE i like the key binds at on cyborg- so far LOVE IT
@@jamiescott1062 I ordered mine in Dec and still haven’t gotten it.☹️
@@heroisme3274 bro i need to go back to redline everything i said about the cyborg- it takes to much to fit it to your hand(changes every day it feels like) the thumb stick is NEVER comfortable the all the keys get in the way of each other! i sold mine to a dude at gamestop and back to using my k65 and gpro or elite 2!
well thanks for giving it a go. i think i could def get used to it, just don't know if i'm willing to accept the price. maybe one day.
I got mine a day ago e and it will take me time to get used to it, I’m still trying to setup the key binds accordingly to the comfort for my hand
all i heard was your issues were due to not getting used to the azeron because of your old muscle memory and how you kept trying to make it feel like you were playing on a keyboard..
Can you click the joystick in like on console controllers?
Yes
i think targeting this at gaming might be the wrong move. i dont really see any benefits over a traditional keyboard for the vast majority of video game enjoyers. however i can imagine it filling a niche as a dedicated input device for shortcuts and macros in addition to your keyboard. basically anywhere you want easy access to lots of binds but dont need split second reactions and pin point accuracy
I think strategy games and moba would be best suited for this keypad.
It is pricey but I love it. They are not as big as Razer or Logitech. So, no fancy batch manufacturing, and should be more more personalised because they build it by hands
If this becomes popular then other companies will likely copy the idea and make better versions of them..
ayou get people who can adapt and you get people who can't
have you tried typing with it?
Only accidentally. And what was written only contained WASDZQERGF123
@@DiamondLobbyReviews haha, i bet if you had two of them and a LOT of time you could type with em
i wish people i played against A D spammed like he did on his keyboard against me.... move back and forth so fast you don't actually move lol
6:20 you need to be able to use azeron PLUS a mouse.
You can, Azeron in one hand, mouse in the other. They make a version for lefty players too!
Those Apex keybinds look terrible. I use the buttons on my mouse for my ability and ultimate. And you only have one button for heel there's five separate key binds for syringe med kit shield sale battery and Phoenix kit.
I think fortnite is the only fps game this make sense. And its the only game i love it in. But yeah. It takes 6 monts to get god at it playing about 10 hours a week.
they really need to swap joystick for D-pad, that will be a great improvement
This review is terrible. You're impatient so you don't recommend the product? You don't have time? You're a gamer.
Ur terrible
It’s a completely valid review. Making the point that it is very difficult to get used to is something people will want to know. Sure it would be more helpful if he mentioned how long he tried it out for context, but that can be a reason to not buy the product.
I ordered my Cyborg recently after careful consideration and one of the main things I had to be honest with myself is... I should be willing to suck until I get used to it. In my case, I'm not above average on K&M (Fortnite with my son... I'm more of an emotional support player than fragger) and I don't have the ego attached much to it. Also, I'm willing to stick to it until I get used to. But I think from the moment you look at this thing, you must realize how different it is. It is not for someone who doesn't have the patience to tinker. So, the review is a fair point of a reviewer that makes sense. Without even trying it out yet I can say that anyone who expects a smooth, quick transition from K&M to this setup is up for a disappointment. 2 weeks - 2 month of probably being worse than you were before, I'd say.
Thank you for saving me from a biased viewpoint instead of a non biased one
I don't recommend buying this product. I will end of double clicking under 1million taps. Not worth the money
I've had mine for over 5000 hours of gaming. The original compact. Your issue sounds isolated and should be fixed by manufacturer.