Conlang Critic: The IS Language

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  • Опубліковано 29 лип 2019
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    after a couple of 100k hits, it’s back to basics with another episode of Conlang Critic. jan Misali reviews The IS Language, created by Stuart Davis. will the youtube recommendation algorithm treat this one as well as it treated w and let the bodies built to scale?
    links:
    www.stuartdavis.com/videos/is
    • THE ART OF IS
    www.livingnonduality.org/blog/...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 696

  • @y.og.i
    @y.og.i 4 роки тому +2628

    maybe the two "I"s is why the language is called "Is"

    • @pentelegomenon1175
      @pentelegomenon1175 3 роки тому +80

      @Pedro Zalazar My question about is is, is is is? Is is is, is it not?

    • @sean_2719
      @sean_2719 3 роки тому +28

      @@pentelegomenon1175 is just is

    • @trangium
      @trangium 3 роки тому +17

      Is is is, or is is not is?

    • @Win090949
      @Win090949 3 роки тому +9

      Vincent T nah, Is IS is.

    • @DrWhom
      @DrWhom 3 роки тому +7

      it all depends on what is is

  • @MarkusAldawn
    @MarkusAldawn 4 роки тому +2130

    "Now let's look at the vowels"
    *makes mildly distressed noises for 30 seconds*

    • @lunahoshi2844
      @lunahoshi2844 4 роки тому +225

      "The following is the longest piece of text in IS that I could find alongside an English translation"
      *makes slightly more distressed noises for 30 seconds*

    • @kornsuwin
      @kornsuwin 4 роки тому +7

      why

  • @leem4386
    @leem4386 4 роки тому +1908

    Next review my conlang called French, I created it to be a mix of Romance and Celtic languages, I hope you like it!

    • @TheExalaber
      @TheExalaber 4 роки тому +107

      What about all that German?

    • @thomasjansen5921
      @thomasjansen5921 4 роки тому +126

      I thought you were working on English, the Germanic based language with all sorts of influence.

    • @leem4386
      @leem4386 4 роки тому +58

      toaritok
      It’s designed to be naturalistic, you probably wouldn’t understand what that word means because you’re not a true intellectual linguist like me. I bet you can’t even speak kay(f)bop(t) fluently, fucking pleb.

    • @thomasjenkins5727
      @thomasjenkins5727 4 роки тому +29

      Read your note about reading every word like something crawled inside you, scratched out your innards, and then died. Definitely sounds naturalistic, keep up the good work.

    • @phoenixfoster-smith8585
      @phoenixfoster-smith8585 4 роки тому +16

      @toaritok Have you ever seen the Tsez conlang? It has way too many cases.

  • @pqbdwmnu
    @pqbdwmnu 4 роки тому +1931

    conlangs need more swear words

    • @c-lao
      @c-lao 4 роки тому +69

      Isn't there Dothraki

    • @TNTErick
      @TNTErick 4 роки тому +126

      everyone can make some in any language. But you need to make the swear word fit in the lang's culture

    • @elemenopi9239
      @elemenopi9239 4 роки тому +89

      Toki pona has “pakala”

    • @iamwhatitorture6072
      @iamwhatitorture6072 4 роки тому +14

      In general, yeah - but for this one I am not sure if that would fit

    • @ursidae97
      @ursidae97 4 роки тому +40

      I consider Toki Pona a language WITH no curses, but one where you CAN curse.

  • @RedmarKerkhof
    @RedmarKerkhof 4 роки тому +905

    Why do people assume everyone thinks in sentences and language?
    Toddlers can think "There's a causal link between hitting the shiny red button on my toy and hearing a sound" without knowing any of those words. Cats can learn to look both ways before crossing a street because they have figured out cars drive there. They don't know the words, but they think.
    So it can be with adults. Most people learn to think in words, but not all.

    • @arcticflower7223
      @arcticflower7223 4 роки тому +32

      I'm sure I did. Thought comes in distinguishable units and sentences are this realized linguuistically.

    • @R1DDL3RS
      @R1DDL3RS 4 роки тому +121

      @@arcticflower7223 I feel like this way of viewing things is very monolingual, or at least very monocultural. Being able to parse meaning from something in one language without being able to immediately declare the meaning in another language evidences that there's a middle stage between thinking and expressing something through language. If this intermediary stage didnt exist, then it would be impossible to encounter the situation where you understand but can't translate. To someone without this experience, it may appear that they think in words.

    • @Garbaz
      @Garbaz 3 роки тому +88

      I find this a very interesting topic.
      As far as I can tell from trying to monitor my own thoughts, most of the time I don't think in words. When reading text I also don't read it in a voice in my head unless it is conversational, like messages, comments, etc.
      The best way I can describe my usual thoughts is as "connected concepts", sometimes represented visually in my mind, but often times with no representation.
      An interesting, though inconvenient, consequence is that I never am satisfied when trying to express my thoughts in words. I tend to talk in circles, trying to find fitting words, but rarely do.
      When I do think in words, it always is conversational, always a simulated dialogue, either between me and an abstract "person" with differing opinions or with a sort of second self.

    • @driveasandwich6734
      @driveasandwich6734 3 роки тому +14

      I feel like most people kind of forget how to do that once they learn languages, so I wonder if one could relearn how to do it by some method...

    • @TheZenytram
      @TheZenytram 3 роки тому +10

      I for instance dont think with word, i just think it when like right now i'm writting with it. And that is a pain in the ass cuz multiple time i'm think about something that is impossible to describe verbally, and mid way trying to say what i've thought, i forget about it.

  • @TheRenegade...
    @TheRenegade... 4 роки тому +1086

    You better do OA when Artifexian is done / close to done

    • @dinoman6123
      @dinoman6123 4 роки тому +8

      agrweee

    • @seanthesheep
      @seanthesheep 4 роки тому +53

      I thought Oa was just a demonstration language for his videos?

    • @TNTErick
      @TNTErick 4 роки тому +69

      @@seanthesheep but it's complete, with it's vocab, grammar... almost everything

    • @TheMasaoL
      @TheMasaoL 4 роки тому +14

      @@TNTErick Does it actually have a lexicon?

    • @TNTErick
      @TNTErick 4 роки тому +9

      @@TheMasaoL idk

  • @LivWildStyle
    @LivWildStyle 4 роки тому +398

    IS is not meant to be comprehensible, IS just IS.

    • @MadSpectro7
      @MadSpectro7 4 роки тому +31

      But then is it a language or an exercise in madness?

    • @FeedsNoSliesMusic
      @FeedsNoSliesMusic 4 роки тому +18

      It's interesting actually because if you have a language that isn't supposed to be comprehensible you're taking away something usually considered an essential characteristic without changing what it is.

    • @adriaan3883
      @adriaan3883 4 роки тому +5

      IS just AM

    • @Julio974
      @Julio974 4 роки тому

      Livia Lautenschlager IS is IS

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 4 роки тому +4

      "IS just works"
      -Sodd Howard

  • @msbmeseb
    @msbmeseb 4 роки тому +764

    this video is good and all but "Jzh" gives me nightmares

  • @michaelolsen7000
    @michaelolsen7000 4 роки тому +500

    I just have to say I love how literal you read text. I had to go back a couple times when you said "lenght" literally as written and then laughed so hard my sides hurt. Please never stop being this literal with reading the text of others.

    • @Sundrobrocc
      @Sundrobrocc Рік тому +18

      same with on line !!

    • @skyfeelan
      @skyfeelan Рік тому +8

      that specific part is the most played for 2 reasons lol

  • @luciachayes
    @luciachayes 4 роки тому +570

    I think that /ɜ/ is very clearly supposed to be /ʒ/, considering it's written very similarly to /s/, /ʃ/ and /ʑ/ in the writing system you showed. Aside from that, this is a very weird conlang, but I kind of like it?

    • @jmclean6648
      @jmclean6648 4 роки тому +7

      +

    • @OrangeC7
      @OrangeC7 4 роки тому +39

      It's definitely kinda idealistic, but that's kinda the point? So I really don't dislike it all that much either.
      ^ Is that the right word

    • @luciachayes
      @luciachayes 4 роки тому +49

      @@OrangeC7 It certainly has a "New Age"y feel to it. I kind of want to delve deeper into the philosophy behind it, even if it's just nonsensical ramblings

    • @failedsocialexperiment2382
      @failedsocialexperiment2382 4 роки тому +6

    • @frank_calvert
      @frank_calvert 4 роки тому +14

      seeing him interpret it as not that was so lazy

  • @Games-mw1wd
    @Games-mw1wd 4 роки тому +247

    Days since Sapir-Whorf: 0

    • @pentelegomenon1175
      @pentelegomenon1175 3 роки тому +4

      It's true.

    • @bongle3726
      @bongle3726 3 роки тому +8

      @@pentelegomenon1175 if you don't know stuff you can't think about that stuff but it has nothing to do with the language you speak

  • @joao1812ful
    @joao1812ful 4 роки тому +148

    god, I was not prepared for the backwards "in my wheelhouse" and even less prepared for how quickly you got over it

    • @epingchris
      @epingchris 3 роки тому +1

      *Twin Peaks flashbacks*

  • @maezelbop
    @maezelbop 4 роки тому +185

    The "wheelhouse" bit was hysterical

  • @Glass-vf8il
    @Glass-vf8il 4 роки тому +253

    That one bit where you roast lojban. I cry every time.

    • @festerdam4548
      @festerdam4548 3 роки тому +6

      In my case my blood increases 1K in temperature. "No, you're getting it wrong! We are not trying to pretend not to be something we are! No one claimed what you refuted."

  • @IM2awsme
    @IM2awsme 4 роки тому +85

    13:08 ever wanted to hear a drunk Russian speak Mandarin Chinese?

    • @somnvm37
      @somnvm37 2 роки тому +8

      sounds like a backward language

    • @irp3ex
      @irp3ex 2 місяці тому +2

      as a russian this is actually a perfect description of what that sounds like

    • @KonpeitoKoil
      @KonpeitoKoil 18 днів тому

      and only speak in the kind of thing you would see before a Denis Villeneuve Dune movie

  • @leem4386
    @leem4386 4 роки тому +143

    *L E N G H T*

  • @myrus5722
    @myrus5722 4 роки тому +160

    8:24 VötGwd is a perfect description of Vötgil.

    • @elemenopi9239
      @elemenopi9239 4 роки тому +2

      lmao goteem

    • @petemagnuson7357
      @petemagnuson7357 4 роки тому +3

      @@elemenopi9239 can I get a translation?

    • @elemenopi9239
      @elemenopi9239 4 роки тому +28

      “Gwd” means good, while “VötGwd” means not good.

    • @violet_broregarde
      @violet_broregarde 4 роки тому +31

      This is the nichest joke I've ever gotten

    • @juliangoulette7600
      @juliangoulette7600 4 роки тому +19

      I've got an even better description: vöt(c)gil(c)san(t)ap(t)vlir(t)sing(b)es(p)u(t)vom(b)con(c)lang(c)cri(c)tic(c)vlim(p)kay(f)dan(f)zhna(f)point(f)vlim(p)ga(f)sna(f)ga(f)

  • @QuikVidGuy
    @QuikVidGuy 3 роки тому +331

    every time someone tries to claim that humans naturally think in sentences i die a little. A lot of people think in words, but these words rarely form full sentences without conscious intent. Most of the time they're just sort of floating around in our language-association space until we decide to speak. And for a lot of people, the default is like... pictures, or... vague feelings of a personal space being somehow bent or pressured one way or another.

    • @user-rv9vk8by5i
      @user-rv9vk8by5i Рік тому +35

      This is also not entirely accurate. Feelings, yes, pictures, no. Turns out, there's a surprisingly large group of people that are simply incapable of visualising in their minds. I believe it's a skill you learn, like learning to think with words. Thinking with pure feeling and instinct seems to be the natural default.

    • @luccaburgess
      @luccaburgess Рік тому +9

      Also, how would you apply this viewpoint to children born into sign language, or the extremely rare case of a child who didn't learn any language? Clearly they are "thinking" in some way, but not in the traditional syntax of spoken language. The fact that this is even possible shows that the human default is not thinking in sentences, but in some more abstract way

    • @seanoreilly849
      @seanoreilly849 Рік тому +7

      i think that "thinking in sentences" is wrong, but the idea that the language we use biases how we think is well founded, which is what the cited article was about (in relation to English's bias to viewing subjects being seperate from objects).
      Although I cant find any examples of this illusion being a uniquely English-speaking phenomena, works been done elsewhere (Buroditsky's famous paper comes to mind, obviously)

    • @sk8terkyd326
      @sk8terkyd326 Рік тому +8

      I think in sentences... lol

    • @fredericksmith7942
      @fredericksmith7942 Рік тому +14

      I think in full sentences, and I always have. It even takes me about as long to think a sentence as it would to say it. Is that weird? I thought everybody did. :(

  • @alexandernyberg8668
    @alexandernyberg8668 2 роки тому +87

    0:51 "It's not for communication, but for the expression of emotional experiences" basically just means "It's not for communication, but it is for communication"

    • @ibnbattuta7031
      @ibnbattuta7031 11 місяців тому +3

      I think he means everyday communication

    • @pamplemoo
      @pamplemoo 11 місяців тому +2

      He most likely meant poetry and stuff like that

  • @SunroseStudios
    @SunroseStudios 4 роки тому +49

    honestly the "subject-object duality" idea actually resonates with me a lot but i can see why it's a weird and confusing way of seeing things for a lot of people. imo it seems like more of a spiritual thing, rather than a philosophy of how one treats the world on a daily basis.

  • @legitimatemedicine
    @legitimatemedicine 4 роки тому +125

    I really enjoyed this one. Though the language is messy, I loved how different the purpose of it is from most of the langs I've heard about

  • @teacul
    @teacul 4 роки тому +144

    This video: There is not much information known about the IS language
    but like in 15 minutes

  • @tr-h7217
    @tr-h7217 4 роки тому +116

    I'm so early the video isn't even prossesed yet

  • @WilliamMBell
    @WilliamMBell Рік тому +17

    This IS an old video, and the language is still pretty underdeveloped. However, I do think that some of the odd things about IS phonology and orthography can be explained.
    In the "Creating the Is Language" video, at 29 seconds in, he types a character in his IS font that doesn't appear on the chart, probably the actual click letter. And the fact that /ɜ/ is grouped with other fricatives and he consistently pronounces it as /ʃ~ʒ/suggests that it is probably supposed to be /ʒ/ not /ɜ/, and he mixed up the two IPA letters that look like a 3.

  • @notoriouswhitemoth
    @notoriouswhitemoth 3 роки тому +15

    An auxlang is a tool, an artlang is a story, an engelang is a demonstration
    _a personal language is a philosophy_

  • @ruwisc_
    @ruwisc_ 3 роки тому +44

    Now that I've watched this video a couple of times I think I finally get what he meant by "subject/object duality", and I don't think it has anything ~specifically~ to do with the English language at all but rather language in general. I think it's kind of like IS is treating subjects and objects identically, as if they're both subjects, and using the "horizontal" "dimension" of the verb to define what the action of the sentence actually is. Since reversing the verb will reverse its meaning and reverse the roles of the subject and object, treating the two "angles" of the verb as if they're the same word makes us consider every sentence as being in active and passive voice simultaneously?
    Like, if I were to say "I ate the apple", someone trying to ignore "subject/object duality" might rephrase that as "an eating happened, and I and the apple were involved, oh and it was me who did the eating", making the separation between subject and object the part of the sentence that gets the least focus.
    I don't know if I'm interpreting this right, and it has way more to do with philosophy than linguistics (just like everything else here) but at least now I think I get what Stuart was going for.

    • @OmikronGT
      @OmikronGT 3 роки тому +22

      In my understanding, which I think is similar to yours, it can be thought of like this:
      To use your example ('a person eats an apple') with subject/object duality, the verb 'eat' requires one thing to act/perform (a person, the subject) and one thing to be acted/performed upon (an apple, the object).
      Instead, with subject/object singularity, 'eat' is a process that affects two things when it occurs, both of them being neither subjects nor objects, but equal components that are modified by the event. The person is nourished and energised while the apple is broken up and dissolved. Which one did the action and which one had the action done to it? Perhaps neither!
      We think of the person as the subject because it caused the event of eating, involving the person and the apple, to take place by deciding to act, while the apple had no say. But if the apple wasn't present, the eating, involving the person and the apple, wouldn't have happened, so maybe the apple equally caused the eating to take place!

    • @ruwisc_
      @ruwisc_ 3 роки тому +4

      @@OmikronGT that is a much better phrasing of what I was trying to say. Thanks! I had a hard time putting that idea into words (which maybe is the point)

    • @OmikronGT
      @OmikronGT 3 роки тому +3

      @@ruwisc_ Great, I'm glad it made sense, though I had to spend a while thinking about it and then a while trying to word it. It's an interesting concept for a conlang.

    • @abyssalboy8811
      @abyssalboy8811 3 роки тому +1

      @@OmikronGT this actually makes a bit of sense

    • @birde6393
      @birde6393 2 роки тому +5

      'the apple and i participated in the action of consumption. i performed the eating and the apple performed the feeding, the apple was consumed and i was fed' sorta deal??? kinda cool way to think about it

  • @noamtashma617
    @noamtashma617 4 роки тому +113

    How to make 12 minutes of documentation into 15 minutes of video? Easy! Just talk about how much documentation was missing.

  • @heilmodrhinnheimski
    @heilmodrhinnheimski 2 роки тому +8

    I misread the title as “This IS language”, as if some conlanger was really desperately trying to prove what they had created was a language.

  • @samsarasuplex
    @samsarasuplex 4 роки тому +33

    My admittedly half-assed impression is that even if it has the trappings and traits of a conlang, IS is meant to be read as a heavily philosophical piece of performance art rather than a proper conlang.

  • @Saturinus
    @Saturinus 4 роки тому +178

    Okay, so it's not a conlang for the Islamic State.

  • @agromental
    @agromental 2 роки тому +18

    Random but I love Davis’ way of thinking. It mirrors my own extremely well and I think it’s extremely exciting from a philosophical pov to have someone point out how language affects thoughts which affect the self and our reality

  • @somedragontoslay2579
    @somedragontoslay2579 4 роки тому +52

    Yah! You recovered your tone! You acknowledged us!
    I'm happy 😁

  • @tamillis-menth
    @tamillis-menth 4 роки тому +99

    Them purposefully pronounced mistakes. Noice

    • @jagoandlitefoot
      @jagoandlitefoot 4 роки тому +40

      lost my shit at the absolutely _golden_ editing on "lenght" at 12:05

    • @aerobolt256
      @aerobolt256 4 роки тому +3

      Front ronded vowel

  • @andrebenites9919
    @andrebenites9919 Рік тому +7

    11:08
    When I think about Descartes quote "I think, therefore I am", in my native language the translation was. "I think, therefore I exist".
    I always thought it was about how the only thing we have confidence that exists is ourselves, and everything else might as well be a product of our mind (or, at least, how our mind perceive the world around).

    • @oqo3310
      @oqo3310 10 місяців тому +1

      It very specifically is about the fact that the only real certainty is your existence, because you think. There is at least one thing that exists, you itself, because otherwise you wouldn't feel. This is the only thing you are certain. The rest could be made by a conspiracy, an evil genie, or, just like you said, an illusion of your own mind.

  • @maiku20
    @maiku20 4 роки тому +32

    I never heard of "Is", but you seemed to do a very good job of summarizing it. A strange and interesting specimen! I enjoyed your presentation of this oddity.

  • @efjay3183
    @efjay3183 3 роки тому +5

    2:55 When 12 year old me walked over over my lego-strewn carpet at 2 am.

  • @rosiefay7283
    @rosiefay7283 4 роки тому +24

    4:26 Given where he mentions ɜ in his chart -- between s and ʃ, I'd guess that he did actually mean ʒ. This would also alleviate that problem you mention of three central vowels sounding somewhat similar. And his letters for these three sounds are similar, and, as you also point out, his letters are somewhat featural.

  • @tibethatguy
    @tibethatguy 4 роки тому +13

    That song at the ending is a masterpiece.

  • @yuvalne
    @yuvalne Рік тому +4

    12:05 caught me completely off-guard

  • @inhumanundead
    @inhumanundead 4 роки тому +91

    i give this one a "philosophy 101 hippie woo-woo"/10

    • @kevinwells9751
      @kevinwells9751 4 роки тому +24

      Yeah, this strikes me as a "I did a bunch of acid, and I can't express the feelings I have when I'm tripping, so I made up a language to express those feelings" kind of language

    • @pentelegomenon1175
      @pentelegomenon1175 3 роки тому +12

      duuuude/10

    • @mrmoth26
      @mrmoth26 3 роки тому +9

      @@kevinwells9751 That's actually a good idea.

  • @swfreak258
    @swfreak258 4 роки тому +20

    You know what?
    It sounds like you need to swallow your tongue to pronounce something like "jzh" or "hzj"
    And listening to the spoken sample, I was completely right

  • @kevinwells9751
    @kevinwells9751 4 роки тому +4

    This language reminds me quite a lot of conversations I've had with people who have done a lot of psychedelic drugs and talk about a loss of a sense of self or a feeling of interconnectedness between themselves and all things. Those people have expressed the idea that there is no real physical world, that everything we see and experience is constructed in our minds, and that there is no truth. Honestly I've found those conversations more or less incomprehensible, and I feel the same way about this conlang

    • @kevinwells9751
      @kevinwells9751 4 роки тому +1

      Just watched part of the linked video of his, and yeah, I would be shocked if he didn't do a lot of drugs. He said that he was visited by an eight foot tall praying mantis entity, whatever that means

  • @ludwigamadeushaydn706
    @ludwigamadeushaydn706 4 роки тому +33

    Me: Wow I'm tired I can't wait to go to sleep...
    Conlang critic: uploads video
    Me: Sleep will need to wait

  • @tenhirankei
    @tenhirankei 4 роки тому +109

    Does Stuart Davis truly exist? Or is he a collection of random thoughts about Conlangs that didn't make sense and were abandoned? A better language that could fully explore philosophical depths would have no vocal expression, as that would limit complete understand between two individuals. It would require use of the term "thought transference".

  • @evandonovan9239
    @evandonovan9239 2 роки тому +9

    I don't agree with non-dual philosophy, but I absolutely love the idea of creating a conlang to explore it. The idea of "altitude" reminded me a lot of Western non-dual philosophies like Spiral Dynamics or Ken Wilber's 4-Quadrant Integral Model.
    The idea of an art lang also reminded me of the short story "Tlon, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius" by Jorge Luis Borges.
    I don't know a lot about linguistics, but I would say the concepts in this video are in my wheelhouse.

  • @gnikola2013
    @gnikola2013 4 роки тому +8

    The amount of inspiration I got for my own personal language is overwhelming. I love this.
    Also that outro sounded so anime lol

  • @clodiusmaximus3668
    @clodiusmaximus3668 3 роки тому +4

    I know I'm a little late to the party, but I didn't see anyone mention this in the comments: a lot of the concepts behind the IS language seem to have been borrowed from the philosopher (mystic?) Ken Wilber. The "altitudes" for example are taken from Wilber's so-called "altitudes of consciousness".

  • @memelordmarcus
    @memelordmarcus 4 роки тому +31

    CONLANG CRITIC posted a language video!
    HOW RARE!

  • @Oi-fo1wt
    @Oi-fo1wt 4 роки тому +13

    One day you have to create your own conlang and review it

  • @ordenhartley1309
    @ordenhartley1309 4 роки тому +30

    Man not guna lie but if I ever had a language reviewed on this Chanel than I’d say I’ve done very well.

  • @deathpigeon2
    @deathpigeon2 2 роки тому +5

    What we think he's trying to get at with the subject-object duality is that, because the negated form of a thing is the thing spelled backwards, whether a word is describing a thing or the not thing is, in IS, a matter of perspective. If you change how you look at the words and/or sentences, you change your view of it to mean the things outside of this. This allows the language to presuppose a unity between the thing and the things outside of it in a really interesting way and force you to consider your perspective on writing in it for considering meaning rather than presupposing a singular, objective perspective.

  • @jackalope2302
    @jackalope2302 4 роки тому +4

    This is my favorite one you've done yet. IS seems halfbaked and your pointers to the creator are awesome. A little positivity to break up the negatives

  • @pippastrelle
    @pippastrelle 4 роки тому +1

    I love these videos!! Keep up the good work!

  • @radeklew1
    @radeklew1 4 роки тому +4

    "lenght of a fully erect penis" made me burst out laughing, great editing on that part.

  • @KyrieFortune
    @KyrieFortune 4 роки тому +80

    ''the subject of our thoughts is always the self''
    me, a writer trying to constantly think like the characters i create so that the story looks good: am i a joke to you

    • @DevilSpider_
      @DevilSpider_ 4 роки тому +1

      I see *Lotus pfp*

    • @sean_2719
      @sean_2719 3 роки тому +4

      thats a fair point but like, arent those thoughts still generated by the self? i dont know myself

    • @TheLastScoot
      @TheLastScoot 2 роки тому +6

      @@sean_2719 Yeah, but the generator of a thought is not necessarily the subject of the thought.

    • @3u-n3ma_r1-c0
      @3u-n3ma_r1-c0 Рік тому

      I unironically have taken this tactic to new levels.
      Both my characters are representative of parts of me- but inversely, I am both my characters combined... meaning both my characters are me, but they're not (in the areas where they are not based off of me) but they also are because they're parts of me and inversely their identities can be used to represent me???
      meaning... Am I me or are my characters me? Or do my characters make me? if that's true, am I me then? or am I just both of them?

  • @yamikowakun
    @yamikowakun 3 роки тому +1

    your "mwah" at 6:37 gives me serotonin

  • @Oler-yx7xj
    @Oler-yx7xj 2 роки тому +2

    I have one idea about ɪ1 and ɪ2. ɪ2 written with letter similar to ə it could mean that this sounds are alike, and ɪ2 means similar sound to Ukrainian "и" marked (at least on Wikipedia) as /ɪ/ and named close central vowel, this is actually how jan Misali named ə in this video.
    And pronunciation "ɜ" like /ʒ/ seams reasonable because it is written similar to other sibilants.

  • @janelota8897
    @janelota8897 4 роки тому +10

    tbh i’d love to see some of the older episodes remade in this new style (like the lojban and ithkuil ones)

  • @loganl3746
    @loganl3746 4 роки тому +4

    I've never heard of Is, but I had some fun giving a good think into it (I love philosophy), so here's my take on some of the concepts you had trouble with:
    S/O Duality: from what I gathered on Wolfe's websites, this is a straight-up philosophy thing and not actually a linguistic thing, at least when Wolfe is talking about it. He's only using language as an example to explain a broader concept of non-dualistic Absolute Idealism. It can also be applied religiously, such as in Hinduism, Brahmanism, and Christianity. I personally think that part of the confusion and what limits Absolute Idealism is that we have to use language to express and share our thoughts, so we get bungled down but having to use words like "subject" and "object" which have similar but differently connotated ideas in other fields i.e. linguistics and philosophy. If we could just telepathically beam ideas into each other's minds, it would be less confusing. Absolute Idealism didn't really take hold in America like it did in Europe, as we prefer Analytic Philosophy. Check out Wikipedia's articles for more.
    Vertical Dimension: As someone with anxiety, I can definitely see how emotional both transcends and includes physical. Think of it this way: your body doesn't innately have emotions, but you need a body (brain, face, etc.) to feel and express emotions. (There is some debate about how the body and emotions interact in psychology, but that's another thing.)
    Also with that rainbow graph with the arrows at around 12:30, this completely reminds me of tarot cards. In tarot, when you interpret the meanings of each card, whether the card is upside-down or not is important. Upside-down cards (called reversed) tend to have a meaning that relates to its normal meaning but diminished or in a negative way. For example, the Empress card can mean motherly instincts and compassion, but the Empress reversed means being smothering or abusive.
    Additionally, I actually really liked your pronunciation in the spoken sample. It sounds like you're talking backwards. I wonder what it'd sound like if you reversed that audio.

  • @sunwukong6897
    @sunwukong6897 4 роки тому +10

    Two more... and then Sindarin

  • @sagecolvard9644
    @sagecolvard9644 3 роки тому +3

    I don't think he left the bilabial click letter unchanged because he thought it looked good enough, I think IS contains a bilabial click because the associated IPA letter looks nice.

  • @benjaminbagley3333
    @benjaminbagley3333 4 роки тому +288

    It would be awesome if you just snuck in real languages.

    • @user-vt6rq9hb9h
      @user-vt6rq9hb9h 4 роки тому +19

      Omg, yes please

    • @jamiee7367
      @jamiee7367 4 роки тому +55

      He should do this for an April fools video

    • @Sovairu
      @Sovairu 4 роки тому +22

      Eh, no, probably not. Even if meant for April Fools, that could backfire pretty quickly.

    • @KittydogCrystal
      @KittydogCrystal 4 роки тому +53

      he already did it for english once!!!!!!!!!!

    • @mariaszegedy6044
      @mariaszegedy6044 4 роки тому +34

      accidentally review Quechua instead of Quenya

  • @CarlosMagnussen
    @CarlosMagnussen 3 роки тому +7

    The first thing I thought when you mentioned Subject-object duality was that it might be a philosophical feature rather than a linguistic one. People who have had experiences of enlightenment often mention that the distincion between "me" and "not me" fades. Maybe that's what the creator meant here?

    • @CarlosMagnussen
      @CarlosMagnussen 3 роки тому +2

      And then I watched the rest of the video...

  • @HoneydewBeach
    @HoneydewBeach 4 роки тому +3

    Just binged the other episodes

  • @zionj104
    @zionj104 4 роки тому +12

    You'd better do OA when Artifexian is done

  • @0r3nw4750n
    @0r3nw4750n 4 роки тому +23

    xD can i comment before it even processes?

  • @teacul
    @teacul 4 роки тому +32

    Let's be honest, we're all here for the auxlangs. I wish there were more conlang review youtubers. There's just too many out there for one person alone to review them all

    • @mehrheitler
      @mehrheitler 4 роки тому +13

      Wait, wha… I’m here for linguistics, not just the auxlangs. Why do you have an idea like this?..

    • @melitopiia4730
      @melitopiia4730 4 роки тому +10

      Eh?? I prefer the artlangs and natlangs and the linguistics

    • @kevinwells9751
      @kevinwells9751 4 роки тому +14

      I also disagree with your idea that we are all here for the auxlangs. I like the auxlang videos, but the artlang videos have been even better to me. Auxlangs have inherent restrictions on what they can do and still be good, whereas artlangs can do just about anything and be justifiable. In just about every auxlang video there are similar complaints (uncommon phonemes that users would have to learn, Euro-centric grammar and vocabulary, etc.), whereas both the good and bad parts of the artlangs are pretty interesting and unique since they have a broader range of purposes.

    • @teacul
      @teacul 4 роки тому

      @@melitopiia4730 he doesn't cover natlangs?

    • @melitopiia4730
      @melitopiia4730 4 роки тому +2

      @@teacul It's more like occasional mentions of natlangs sprinkled throughout the videos tbh

  • @0hate9
    @0hate9 4 роки тому +3

    That digression on wheelhouses was fantastic.

  • @Culmaerija
    @Culmaerija 4 роки тому +2

    depending on how you're counting, Sesotho only has one (1) click : the alveolar. But some people count aspirated and nasalised clicks separately, in which case Sesotho has three, orthographically "q, qh, nq"

  • @florbengorben7651
    @florbengorben7651 4 роки тому +1

    I'm stoked for Sindarin. Never read the books or watched the movies but I know about tolkeins affinity for languages so I'm excited. Both Sindarin and Quenya

  • @Sovairu
    @Sovairu 4 роки тому +4

    9:38 Ha! Nice call out on Lojban.

  • @kori228
    @kori228 4 роки тому +7

    All this philosophy stuff, it's basically the just Daoism's "the Way"

  • @duophile7692
    @duophile7692 4 роки тому +1

    Eyyy it’s back!

  • @dylrocks17
    @dylrocks17 4 роки тому

    I actually really enjoyed this episode a lot

  • @theapexsurvivor9538
    @theapexsurvivor9538 4 роки тому +3

    Can we get an episode on Fremen? It's a surprisingly well documented language when you look at how little time it's actually spoken in the Dune Saga.

  • @duck8dodgers
    @duck8dodgers 4 роки тому +4

    Am I the only person who was amazed that Stewart Davis made a conlang I'd never heard of, and then thought, "Oh, not THE Stewart Davis"? I have to give this new Stewart Davis credit trying to be an artist with the same name as such a giant in cubism.

  • @CorpCoCEO
    @CorpCoCEO 2 роки тому

    The wheelhouse bit is unironically my favorite thing you’ve ever said

  • @keldwikchaldain9545
    @keldwikchaldain9545 4 роки тому +2

    You should do an episode on Toaq once you've finished up this season. That would be really cool!

  • @eyemotif
    @eyemotif 4 роки тому +12

    hey, how do you make your phonology charts?

    • @HBMmaster
      @HBMmaster  4 роки тому +26

      google docs

    • @EchoHeo
      @EchoHeo 4 роки тому +2

      @@HBMmaster smart

  • @GoldenBeholden
    @GoldenBeholden 2 роки тому

    I would love to see you analyse and review natural languages like this.

  • @Mr.Nichan
    @Mr.Nichan 4 роки тому +7

    I think he meant /ʒ/ when he said /ɜ/, given that the letter representing it looks similar to the other silibants and he pronounces it as a silibant, rather than a vowel, which is pretty unlikely to happen by accident.

  • @FinetalPies
    @FinetalPies 4 роки тому +1

    12:05
    Oh my fuck I had to go back and listen to this 3 times I'm crying yiur comedic timing is so good fuck

  • @IaizC
    @IaizC 4 роки тому +12

    im here before it was processed :)

    • @EchoHeo
      @EchoHeo 4 роки тому +2

      helo

    • @sictoabu9611
      @sictoabu9611 4 роки тому

      Processed? You mean, like a preview? How does processing a video work?

    • @EchoHeo
      @EchoHeo 4 роки тому

      @@sictoabu9611 like when a video is first uploaded it takes a bit of time to be processed

  • @senshtatulo
    @senshtatulo 4 роки тому +2

    Given the similarity of shape and clustering together of the four sounds /s/, /ʃ/, /ɜ/, and /ʑ/, it seems clear and certain that the third one should be /ʒ/, not the vowel /ɜ/, despite the symbol given in the video.

  • @jh5401
    @jh5401 4 роки тому +2

    you should do a follow up when is has been made more

  • @UkumaOokami
    @UkumaOokami 4 роки тому +3

    how can i send you a conlang to review (not necessarily make a video on though you could if you wanted to) ? I have have my degree in linguistics and created a conlang for my final in my morpho-syntax class. its (in my opinion) a very unique language syntactically. though the vocab is all inspired from Germanic language. I have all the information on the language neatly laid out in a word dock along side parsing in an excel spreadsheet. im pretty proud of the language and would love to get it out there somehow

  • @alexkozliayev9902
    @alexkozliayev9902 4 роки тому +14

    Sample sounds like speaker is having a stroke

  • @trickvro
    @trickvro 3 роки тому +1

    2:40
    I can't believe I missed that "the his language" bit in all the previous times I watched this video. 😂

  • @beardedglowsquid1875
    @beardedglowsquid1875 4 роки тому +13

    I think what would be fun if you covered the weirdest real life languages (whatever your definition of weird is) cheers from the worlds most uninformed w fan

  • @d_j_smirnov
    @d_j_smirnov 6 місяців тому +1

    Looking at the chat I believe this /ɜ/ was indeed supposed to be /ʒ/. It stays between /s/ and /ʃ/ and is written with an almost identical letter.

  • @Prof_Granpuff
    @Prof_Granpuff 4 роки тому +6

    Im glas this man is having a good time with Is because oo sis idek whats happening

  • @FreakishSmilePA
    @FreakishSmilePA 4 роки тому +1

    how did I make this 30 minutes after it was uploaded?

  • @Liggliluff
    @Liggliluff 4 роки тому +1

    (9:40) Fully agree on your point. Lojban would have its own words for the grammatical features it has, but you still use the English names when describing it in English. It's like if you learn about Swedish, where we have this crazy part of speech called "substantiv" ... but, you would still just call it "noun" in English.

    • @drdca8263
      @drdca8263 4 роки тому

      I agree that calling it weird names when speaking about it in english seems kinda silly, but it seems plausible to me that the “doesn’t emphasize the distinction between the idea of a subject and an object,” idea could make sense?
      Like, “predicate with 2 arguments” seems like a decent way to formulate things.
      I don’t know much about lojban though.

  • @cormTiger
    @cormTiger 2 роки тому +1

    12:02 top 10 twist endings

  • @eve36368
    @eve36368 4 роки тому +1

    So the philosophicsl point of saying I isn't separate from something else/the world is to say
    - we are all part of the environment.
    - our environment affects us
    - If we hurt the world we hurt ourselves
    - if we better ourselves we improve the world
    - "the political is personal"
    - "no man is an island".
    But yeah, there are restrictions to that like when describing 2 different barns. I think those kind of separations would be marked as inversion 2 of nondual if I'm not mistaken about inversions being separate from reversals.
    Also supporting the nonduality is the "ship of thesus" where everything is made of parts, which is supported by having Physical as a base for everything. It seems to break when considering class distinctions used for that ship of thesus.
    It the root gets horizontal while suffixes get vertical & are basically treated like compound words. I'm not sure whether inverted altitude get ranked as negative numbers or by absolute value. It seems to be based on absolute value, but still.
    I think altitude means something like evidentiality markers like we see in quechua. That being said, since some of them are value judgements I would say that it's an attempt at expressing the subjunctive mood (which is hard to express in standard English, though we use filter words/verbs. It's very easy to express in Spanish).
    I do agree with you that the lack of separation between the altitudes is a hinderance. It could be an attempt at trying to avoid having to use up to 7 tags at a time, but still, it's frustrating to have to include a bunch it all the time.

  • @viracocha6093
    @viracocha6093 4 роки тому +1

    11:36 wasn’t expecting that

    • @viracocha6093
      @viracocha6093 4 роки тому +1

      12:06 wasn’t expecting that as well

    • @deutschekanadische
      @deutschekanadische 2 роки тому

      @@viracocha6093 length of the *F U L L Y E R E C T P E N I S*

  • @wolfelkan8183
    @wolfelkan8183 3 роки тому +1

    Well, this is certainly the funniest episode of Conlang Critic so far.

  • @warmCabin
    @warmCabin 2 роки тому +1

    Have you ever seen that classic UA-cam skit, _this is how we trip?_
    "Everyone can fly, you know that, right?"
    "This book right here is the Language. Everyone must speak it."
    This whole thing seems like a real life version of that!

  • @rootednewt3262
    @rootednewt3262 4 роки тому +1

    really en joyed this you tube video on line

  • @rodjacksonx
    @rodjacksonx 4 роки тому +1

    Been watching your critiques, and enjoying them so far. One thing that came to mind from this one though: you declare many conlangs as being not very good, which is fine. But out of curiosity, what's an example of a natural language that you think is a "good" one?

    • @Karin-fj3eu
      @Karin-fj3eu 2 роки тому

      None, they only think Toki Pona is good