United Nations revises Gaza fatality numbers, ignites confusion | Dan Abrams Live
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- The United Nations revised its statistics about the number of people killed in Gaza during the Israel-Hamas conflict, citing a much lower death toll for women and children. Abrams questions whether the mainstream media will stop using the old numbers after the international organization's admission. The Young Turks founder Cenk Uygur and conservative commentator John Ziegler join “Dan Abrams Live” to discuss the revision and whether people should continue to trust the U.N. statistics.
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It took Israel six weeks to count and identify the victims of Oct 7. You are telling me Hamas can count them in a day? Please.
It's easier if one makes them up, Hamas counts quicker than it can run
Makes sense.👍
speak english
So they're waiting for you to count it for them. It has been more than 6 months now wake up and see what is going around you
The delay in counting the deceased from the October 7 attack in Israel was due to the complexity and scale of the incident. The authorities faced a challenging task of identifying all victims, which took considerable time due to the nature of the atrocities committed. The process involved meticulous forensic work, including the identification of victims who were tortured, raped, burned, and mutilated, with many of the acts being filmed by the perpetrators.
That’s a joke! They always lied!!
So did Israel, they inflated their 7th Oct death toll by including Hamas bods right from the start. It was so difficult differentiating the bods because of the powerful weapons that Israel had used not the small arms that Ham used. Go figure! And what happened to the 40 baby myth, classic emotive trick taken out of the WW1 manipulation handbook. Also, the assumption is that all fighting age males are all Ham including doctors, aid workers, journalists. Even Israel say there are only 30K Ham combatants which is about 1.5% of the population, so that sounds really suspect. You'd have to be dim or evil to believe anything Israel says :D And who literally wrote the book on lying? Perhaps Edward Bernays, who wrote the book Propaganda which was read by and influenced you know who. I don't know whether he was a Zionist but it makes you wonder. Israel's standards of PR have fallen since, more akin to a spy B movie.
Cenk says there's 3 different numbers thinking that helps his point 🤣
Mish ❤
-People under the rubble
-People fully identified(names,gender,age etc)
-people confirmed dead but not fully identified
How is that hard to understand?
Did not believe them from the start.
they bring on muslim apologist
They always do. Repiting the Same lies. Did you notice that they counted the numbers form the day of the 7.10 attack. On 7.10 the only /gazans that died were the terrorists that invaded Israel. So they counted them to as victims.
Im sure the BBC won't change their numbers.
They don’t have to change their numbers because you choose to be illiterate.
Why does anyone bring Chenk on?
To see how he makes a fool of himself
Agree he's been caught out many times, he's a propagandist
Lol, for laughs.
Turks threatened Israel when Israel wanted to publicise their findings on Armenian genocide and when they complained to US they're were told to shut up. Armenian genocide is ongoing still. And unlike Palestine their population numbers are actually going down.
To show the ridiculous things that get spread to our youth.
Numbers include 14,000 Hamas fighters
10600 Fighting age Men who could be Hamas Sympathizers
Calling all males killed hamas is very racist.
So you think the IDF has managed to somehow killed thousands of woman and children, by accident, but they haven't killed even one innocent man aged 18 to 65 in the entire conflict?
That doesn't sound a bit absurd?
There's several interviews of the IDF explaining that any male 18-65 is labled a terrorist.
If they had that kind of fighting power they would not be subjected to colonialism.
Those thinking all fighting age gazan men are hamas are just racists.
No more Cenk. Please!!!
Why you just prefer to hear propaganda 😅?
@@Justiceactivistsorry, we don’t believe you anymore. Too many lies.
Cenk is just too entrenched
@@thinkagain1187 lies of AIPAC propaganda 😂
Would you prefer to only hear what you want to hear? Challenging yourself to see other veiwpoints is good for you. Sitting in an echo chamber of 1 sides veiwpoint is how you become brainwashed into believing everything they say. You should always form your own opinions and go to multiple sources for facts left right and in-between not just fox and daily wire not just tyt and cnn.
You are have lost all credibility if you call Cenk a friend.
Do not make it personal, friend.
😂😂😂
I wouldn't say all, but he definitely should reassess his criteria for friendship 🤣
Cenk understands math like he understands the requirements to run for President.
Cenk is a clown. Stop bringing him on as a panelist.
He's the only one they've brought on that states facts. You just want someone that supports your racist narrative.
This cenk is clueless lol
Unfortunately he is not clueless. He’s been looking too deep into this for months to not know what’s actually happening. He’s straight up spewing disinformation purposefully. Either it’s because he makes too much money for this, or he’s straight up fighting the propaganda war on behalf of the wrong side.
Clueless about what every credible news outlit has reported that the death toll was not reduced. Only Tabloid rags like news nation ( fox news lite) are making this idiotic claim of revisment.
How many hamas killed in Gaza? No figure?
So they tell the truth in 20 seconds and then give 5 minutes to aturk to paint over it.
Would be zero dead if Hamas had not started a war or bothered to shelter civilians in their tunnels.
If israel was not illegally occupying and stealing land from the palestinians there never would have been a hamas. They are still occupying stealing land in the west bank which I run by the group choose peace.
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Unfortunaletly Israel started the war long before 1948.
@@shaz687 You mean when the Rashidun Caliphate invaded?
@shaz687 More tales from Pallywood?
Cenk is an absolute joke
His head is far too rectangular! 🗿
i like him, he is full stone age man
People don't like those stating facts.
How come when Gaza Health Ministry reports death it's not broken down to how many combatants vs civilians killed? It's always women and children. We can safely say that almost half of that are combatants. Also, women and children can be combatants as well, however small.
Be good to see who’s paying cenk to say this shit
They thrive on lies...and there are suckers who believed them...what a sad world
The funny thing how are they able to count the bodies that fast if there are constantly battles going on they just add like ten thou each week
U.N. underground network
💙✡️🇮🇱
They all need jesus
Lmao!!
Poor people in here!
They didnt revise the numbers, they changed how they state the numbers. They catergorize them differently. There are numbers of fully identified individuals and those that are not identified.
Its still the same amount of ppl.
How many are Hamas or supporters of Hamas? Are they innocent civilians if they helped kidnap and held hostages? Are we to actually believe Hamas’ numbers who benefit from deaths?
What stands out is how drastically reduced the number of women and children. It went down to around less that half. And STILL no figure for terrorist combatants.
Cenk defends Hamas' lies. It shows who he is.
How many of the numbers were murdered by Hamas and now they can guise it as “killed by Israel”😂
I wonder how they know how many shieldren are in the rubble, if they have not cleared the rubble yet. o_O
“I went out to get food for my 3 children and when I got back our home had been destroyed all I could see was blood seeping out of the rubble and no sign of my 3 children” what can you reasonably assume? And that’s just one example…
@@superiorsoundsmusic5389 “I went out to get food for my 3 shieldren and when I got back our home had been destroyed by Hamas after they took all my three shieldren somewhere." And that’s just one example…
@superiorsoundsmusic5389 So the internet still works in Gaza 👍
He should ask Genk how many Armenians and Greeks did the Turks eliminate in their genocide because he denies it ever happened and turkey has never admitted to it either.
Mr. Guteres trusts hamus and Qatari money
This Uyghur guy keeps lying.
Cenk shaking his head again 🤦🏽♀️😅😅😅
if Hamas terrorist group have not complied with the Iranian foreign aggressive dictations to revenge the death of Suleimani on Palestinian soil,
the innocent civilian precious lives would not have been killed or died!
the cultural sites, civilian homes, schools, kindergartens, hospitals, shopping centers, infrastructure would not have been destroyed!
the so called de-humanization, the breach of human rights, the acts of hostility would not have been taken place!
Wow he still lies about an existing 10,000.00. The news is there are no 10000 person accounted for not names. No where is there any 10000 additional bodies.
Debunked !
Brought it out of themselves.I don't feel sorry for them at all
Amazing how Chenk still go and defend hamas to cover up for names of people not identified ..
You go Cenk, speak they truth as you do so well!!
Another fact the UN didn't make public is that they changed their counting method. So using "previously were mostly correct" (which is actually about 20% give or take) is just wrong.
Gaza War Day 222: IDF drone footage shows Hamas gunmen inside UNRWA logistics centre in Rafah.. Everyone should see this footage of UN
"The UN has never been overtly pro-israel?" Except ever since the UN gave jews the land in 1948.
The Proof of who is full of it and no retractions. pure garbage.
This guy needs to be send to Gaza why he is in USA ?
It’s now 32% ‘kids’
Dan just said that everyone questions IDF stats as if there is some bias against IDF. The bias has always been in favor of IDF
So, what they did was add that 10,000 are missing, and 79,061 are injured🤣
Mankind has never witnessed absolute slavery like yours!
Hey Cenk. What's it like to be president? Oh wait......bwahahahaha
But he could and I wish he would, go be “President” of a newly formed Palestinian people, after the war is over.
Maybe he wouldn’t mysteriously die like Arafat.
Sire, 3 days passed and nowhere’s to be found count corrections.
You are talking to Cenk. 😂😂😂
they need to stop letting this guy cenk do interviews. something is wrong and i truly believe he has a screw missing.
But is a clear conection and of course obviously the relationship between ONU and the Terr…st
Stop trying to explain away your lies with further lies...sorry no more credibility for un
Cenk is laughable, Joe Biden speaks more sense
It's like looking at the aftermath photos at herashima and nagasaki And then debating the legitimacy of the fatality count , They have literally dropped the mega tonnage of probably four Atomic bombs that were dropped on japan , What's amazing is that the numbers are as low as they're stating . To quote jesse jackson in the nineteen eighties I'm just trying to take common sense to high places .
Great to see Cenk on other shows he gives what ever shows he’s on more credibility, because you know Cenk seeks the truth of every matter being discussed, is very thorough looking at all sides, so wherever I see him booked I give credit to that organization also values truthfulness and facts too.
The Gaza Health Ministry have twice stated the casualties includes Hamas fighters. A battalion is around 1,000 soldiers, Israel states they have destroyed 20 battalions. They are saying 13,000 are dead which is consistent with the figures when you account the fatalities, those imprisoned and those combatants that have been significantly disbursed. Then you have two more important ingredients affecting the fatality count, the number of civilian fighters and those associated/related to those who ignored the Israeli warnings to move to safety instead chose martyrdom, sad those that martyred their own children. No one has been hiding these figures yet the clown world somehow got it all wrong and have been following the Hamas lead propaganda machine all along. A fabricated claim supported by the UN and the US. these clowns were proclaiming all those killed were innocent victims to which more than half were children, really. But then these same clowns were proclaiming the jabs were safe and effective. Argue that with the dead and seriously injured, and they count in their millions.
TODAY IS A SUNNY HOT WEATHER
CENK : LOOK HOW RAINY AND WINTER TODAY IS🤮
Cenk is really struggling 🤣🤣🤣
Let Cenk talk
Nice
From 25k deaths Hamas know who is a fighter but will not publish it
Also the added for this number a “natural death “
These exact numbers,essentially. Two competing terms means the opposite things. Either the numbers are exact, or essentially the same, means not exact, and who ever originally said it, was leaving space to be wrong, not exact, so which was it ? Exact number or essentially the same?
Where's Allah 👀 🤷♂️
Allah in Arabic means the same as Kami-Sama in Japanese and Yahweh in Hebrew which are the same definition as the English word God.
he is the best of judges .. you will see how he will deal with the wrongdoers
@@azzza4603 And reward its followers with 72 wives from hell as per Sunan Ibn Majah 4337.
@@MustAfaalik And last I checked, (Numbers 31;17-19), (Hosea 13;16) and (1 Samuel 15;3) were not written in the Quran.
@@MustAfaalik Also I believe that is from (Exodus 21:7-11) and (1 Corinthians 14:34)
They clearly didn’t change the numbers, I’m not getting those wasted minutes back either
At least Dan let Cenk on
Cenk 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mathew 15:13-14
Really 🙄🙄
Cenk is a laughing stock
I glad u put cenk in his place finally n the vote Dems but this guy is to damn radical
I undestand the concept of giving opportunity to both sides to express themselves, but once stablished that a guest is a biases idiot, what's the point of keep inviting him to so many shows, besides clicks?
Dan is such a little weasel
Yes, he is.
Trust Chunky
NEVER FORGET THE GAZA UN HQ HAMAS SERVER FARM
How come the world believes a terrorist organization 😂 what is going on
Israel is being too careful in Gaza compared to any other country in a similar conflict.
Cenk is right
Humans are only considered "Human shields" because our ally is targeting them. 😂
Sad to be so ignorant
They are targeting Hamas. And Hamas is using the as shields. . There is a BIG difference
@@Winpegal Thought experiment. If Iran was targeting a group of KKK members in the US. Would you be a human shield? Or would you be an innocent civilian?
@@franklin9400 Iran would not be targeting KKK. THEY WOULD BE SUPPORTING THEM.
@@Winpegal It's a thought experiment. But to make you happy. They are targeting antifa. Is everyone else just a human shield? Or are regular people innocent civilians.
Okay, so the total numbers are the same, only the categories in which they are in have changed...for now. Why are Abrams and Ziegler acting like that's great news?
Paid by AIPAC they understand but they have to keep people confused
Cause pro Hamas have been touting 70 percent of fatalities are woman and children. But in this most recent review the percentages are hardly 70 percent already. Which proves what everyone sensible was saying that Hamas numbers are trash. But of course those who now want to hide that they are gullible non-thinkers are suffering cognitive dissonance that the reality has shown them to be believing and repeating lies.
This has not taken into account even further granularity of the numbers and also has not yet accounted for which numbers are actually terrorists so there goes their case for genocide when the basic data used to support this was already wrong
Also, this is review one. would there be review two, review five, review ten? Who knows, but this already put the nail in the coffin in that Hamas numbers are just falsehoods
Yes coz the distribution of the casualties has changed drastically. A big increase in men casualties and a huge reduction of women and children casualties. Just goes to show what liars Hamas is.
Meh cenk is right the un didn't say their are less civilians dead? Pretty fucking funny it's painted as an opinion
Cenk is 💯 on point
Lmao are you serious? Anyways the big picture is that Hamas is continuing mess around with Israel and with the world. They're convincing those who want to believe their lies.
Imagine thinking 24k dead half being woman and children is a win
Imagine none being sheltered in the tunnels.
@@solvingpolitics3172 imagine making excuses for people killing woman and children
The point is it destroys the narrative of indiscriminate killing, and the narrative of genocide.
According to the UN 9 out of 10 fatalities in war are civilian (as a whole, including all wars in the past several decades).
This is one of the only wars, potentially the only war, where that ratio is closer to 1-1 combatant vs civilian.
It's certainly not good news as a whole. 8k dead children is tragic, beyond tragic. The point is the bigger picture changes.
FYI the UN also estimated 300k dead children in the saudi/ yemen war.... no one cursed saudi Arabia or protested at any university.. perspective matters.
@@Dontbelieve.thehype Imagine among the 24k, none of those is a militant.
Imagine for 7 months now, there is no count even for a single militant.
Imagine to be so naive that there are no female militants.
Imagine to think that there are no children (11 - 17) who actually and actively participate in terror attacks
🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️. Imagine being so gullible that all that I mentioned above aren't happening in Gaza now!
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@@AdamAdamHDL
The fact that you don’t even know that the UN is nothing but a ter or I st organization. Bought off by Arab oil t er or dollars. With 112 workers of the UN participating in the Oct. 7th massacre shows me that you are not informed.
Can someone fire the biased host
United nations did no such a thing
Islam dies without lies
You don’t even know