HOKA VS ALTRA? What is the best running shoe for you? A comparison of HOKA or Altra | August 2022
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- Hoka shoes vs Altra. Steve of Run Moore compares the brands of HOKA and Altra and talks about how to find the best running shoe for you. Find out the difference between Altra's zero drop, rounded, foot shaped toe box and HOKA's meta rocker platform. 😄 Which is the best running shoe for you? Steve compares the HOKA Clifton 8, Altra Escalante 3, HOKA Arahi 6, Altra Provision 6, HOKA Bondi 8, Altra Torin 6, Gaviota 4 & Altra Paradigm 6.
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0:00 Start
0:19 Brand Intro
2:43 Mid Cushion Neural (Clifton and Escalante)
3:38 Light Stability (Arahi and Provision)
4:43 Max Cushion Neutral (Bondi and Torin)
6:05 Max Cushion Stability (Gaviota and Paradigm)
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If only Hoka had a rounded toe box...
Yes, they are narrow even in 2e width
Agree, and wide. Until they do I can’t fit my feet into Hokas. I’d like to but… Come Hoka get your stuff together and make a shoe shaped like a foot.
That would be sweet if they had a true foot-shaped toe box model.
And wider shoe frame.
Was thinking the same. Im all about Altra due to the wind toe box. Shoe is snug around the heel but gives room at the toe. Would love to try a wide toe with low ,Hoka like, foot drop of 4-5mm. If only . . .
Having both I honestly feel Hoka can't justify the same price for the quality and comfort. The materials feel so much better in Altras to me
I had altra olympus 5 and rerurned them I now use hoka arahi 6 and bondi and in my view both quality and comfort is above altra
Altra always break down on the bottom way to quick for me. Can’t justify the price until they fix QC issues
do you use the same size Hoka and Altra? I have Hoka and i would like to try Altra...
@@jada8331 Same size. Yeah. And they both fit well - although hoka is a bit narrow which is expected compared to Altra all shoes will be slightly (or a lot) narrower than altra in the toebox and in the midfoot. I see altra as a great shoe for less technical terrain. They tend to slip sideways when you run on a sloped terrain (sideways to the hill if that makes sense).
And then there’s Topo with similar to Altra’s toe box and Hoka’s 5mm drop. 😊
You’re doing lords work with these videos, good job!
Thanks for the comparison. One of the best running shoes channel on you tube!
Thank you so much!!
This is excellent. Love your videos. Great info and very succint delivery.
Good video!! I run in both of these brands the most. Very different for the most part but both have models I absolutely love and enjoy. Happy running 🏃♂️☺
Love your shirt man! I’ve been looking into Hoka since my produce guy had em on. I’m on my feel 12+ hours a day so I’m thinking I’m going with the Bondi. Thanks for the link!
Highly appreciate your information sir. I have had struggles with Altra's shoe advisor on the internet and I am just glad to see you can be the alternative. I live in Europe, I can not order my shoes with you, so please accept a virtual thank you note!
Glad to see I'm not the only one who has the Provision and Paradigm cross-wired :) Would love to see a comparison between the new Altra Via Olympus vs. the Bondi 8. Seems like they are identical targets in terms of stack height.
Haha. Yes, I have a lot of shoes to keep track of when I do these videos. And thanks for the recommendation. I will talk with my video guy and see if that's a video we can do. We appreciate your support.
You really explain very well! Thanks
Great video. Informative and appreciate the better video quality and editing.
Thank you! We have tried to step up our video quality and it's great knowing it is not going unnoticed.
Any chance you could do a video with Altra and Hoka trail shoes? I really liked this video. Its kind of like a runner’s reference manual.
Great comparison of the different approaches!
Thanks for watching!
Very informative video, Steve. Altras for me please!. Did my first run in the Torin 6's (mail ordered from your shop) and was very happy with the feel right out of the box.
So glad you liked them, thanks for watching!
thanks for a great run down - thanks. any thoughts re the DURABILITY OF ALTRAS?
Thank you very much for your tremendous help! I’m a HOKA person and have gone through 3 pairs of Bondi 7 and 2 pairs Speedgoat so far 😂. I run uphill to work everyday so the maximum cushion and durability are what I’m always looking for :). I think I’ll get Bondi 8 from your online shop in the near future 😁😎
Thanks so much! I appreciate you watching our channel.
Thank You great explanation!
This was a great video!!!
Thank you so much!! A great vid, and helped choose a shoe. Altra paradigm it is!
Great informative video. I just got my 1st Altra and it is the Rivera 2. No complaints. I chose it because I have a narrow foot and the Rivera 2 has the slimmest fit for Altra.
What a great idea and execution of a video!
Thanks for watching the video! Lots of people enjoy these comparison videos so I plan on making more of them.
Wow! this was a great video. Very informative thank you!
Thanks for watching the video! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
What a fun video! I can imagine a lot of people finding this super helpful. Great work. (Rivera = Rincon, right?)
Thank you! Yes, along those lines. The Escalante 3 and Rivera 2 are so close in cushion now but then again the Rincon and Clifton are relatively close as well.
First time viewer, but I love when people make videos like this. It's so informative. If I've worn even one of those shoes I can get a grasp of how it might feel to wear the others. Especially as a new runner, comparisons are the only useful way for me to understand what you're talking about. You can use as many words as you want, but if you don't compare it to something that I have actually tried, then I'm not really learning much of anything.
So please do more comparisons please! I've been looking for a good max cushioned shoe (got one Hoka Clifton 2 in 2015 and it's been the only shoe I've worn until now). I love me some pillow-y goodness!
Thanks for the detailed analysis and I will always vote for more comparisons over anything else.
For this video, you've gained a new subscriber. Thank you for the help!
Thanks so much! We actually are going to try to do more comparison style reviews. They seem to help a lot of people and we really enjoy making them!
@Run Moore which do you prefer out of the paradigm 6 or Olympus 5 with cushion and all around shoe?
Hi Steve! Great video! as always. Just a question: would you say that these Altra and Hoka are a few steps ahead Saucony Triumph 20? In my case, I suffer high archs. Thank you.
Hi! Thanks for this video. Any suggestion In what’s best shoes for Camino pilgrimage? Long day walk mostly paved road with some trails along the way. Thanks 🙏
Thanks for the video
I’m an altra runner due to foot injury and I’ve worn escalates since switching to the brand. Which altra shoe would you recommend for staying around half marathon distance?
a lot of great information here.., thank you
Thanks for watching!
my wife got me the torin 6 after I told her id like to try something else besides hoka and wow am I amazed at the comfort these shoes bring me. if you're looking for everyday shoes, trust me... the altras are GREAT.
Been struggling with weak knees for a couple of months, primarily with the IT band. What would you recommend as the best daily trainer ?
Fantastic video!
Great and timely video, thanks Steve. I run on both brands (Bondi, Clifton, Olympus, Torin). Mix of road and trail. What would you recommend for a 80kg supinator with a normal arch, no injuries and looking to stay that way. Distances up to 20kms. Thanks!
Are you looking for more of a road or trail shoe? The Hoka Arahi 6 is awesome for a road supinator. It has the same cushion as the Clifton so if that was enough for you and your mileage that would be a great one to try (wearing a pair as I type this). On the trail, the Olympus 5 is the only one that is going to have any type of supination support to it. It's a lot of shoe but as you know, it's awesome. I also mix the Hoka Speedgoats into my trail mix and while it does not have the lateral stability it has never caused me any IT Band stress from excessive supination. Hope that helps!
Great video! I loved how you made a face-to-face comparison of the shoes in each lineup. Having tried the escalante, clifton, and torin, I would say that the clifton and torin are probably more similar to each other in terms of plushness, although I understand why you paired the clifton to the escalante in your video. Looking forward to more videos like this. Thank you for the great content.
Thanks so much! We had a lot of fun making it and the staff and I had heated debates over the Escalante vs Clifton. Thank you for watching.
@@RunMoore didnt try torin, but you surely misguided me with escalante after I used Clifton :))
@@DR-ti7yi the dudes, just giving general advice to help people. He’s not here to hold your hand and tell you exactly what you to buy that’s kind of to you. You have to use your own brain at some point he’s just here to help with general advice lol. He’s not your personal guide lol.
@@Dara-ih6jq he is here just to sell. You didnt use your brain at all :))))
I love Altra’s. The Torin is my go to road shoe. The Superior is my trail shoe. I really wanted to like Hoka but they feel too narrow.
Just like Altra's, some Hoka models are cut wider than others. Models like the Mach and Rincon can be cut narrow for sure. I have found this Clifton 8 runs nice and wide for our customers. More so than some of the other Hoka models. If you were to dip your toes in the Hoka waters, I would probably start there.
Steve, I love the video. Nice job on the sound effects and visual graphics, you're taking these videos to the next level. I agree with a previous comment on doing the same review with trail shoes. I know you have an extensive knowledge of the foams used in shoes and would love to see you sharing your knowledge/science on the current technology
Thanks so much! We have really tried to step our game up and I appreciate you saying it's noticed. We actually have been going through comments to find ideas for new videos. We can totally add that to the list.
Great video. Minor note: Paradigm doesn't have any dual-density foam in the midsole.
Great vid. Next please do Altra vs Topo
I used to wear SAS shoes for many years. The cost is between $150 to $200. Now wear these kind of shoes that they are comfortable and fit better. Thanks for the review .
If you are struggling with tight calves that is making your achilles at the heel hurt what would you choose? I mostly walk and do some running but not for long. Current shoes are Brooks Adrenaline and I’m thinking the high drop may be the problem.
These are my two fav brands. Would love to have see the racers as well!
Thanks for watching!
I tried Hokas a few years ago - ordered them online, walked around the house for five minutes to get a feel o them, and as soon as I removed them, my toes said to me - "THANK YOU!!!"
Returned them right away and went back to Altras...
They’re very hard, right?
@@_danila5185 which ones, Hokas or Altras?
@@NoNameNoLastName Hokas.
Thank you very much. Not being able to try running shoes in person. Could you please advise if a Hoka 'Bondi' in US11 would be equivalent to an Altra 'Torin' regarding size?
You make very good videos.
Hey mate. Great content.
As someone from Australia it's pronounced - Bon - Die (Bondi)
It's a famous beach here.
Every time I hear bondee, I die a little inside
i kinda pick and choose, having a 4e size Bondi is great, in use it for everyday and recovery or if my feet start to get tired standing too much at work (bought a second pair on sale for the more casual stuff like that )and i use the escalante racer for short runs and casually walking around etc, so i interchange between both in a sense , the Bondi really is "when my feet needs a bit of relief" but i again i buy the 4e extra wides 😅
I have used many different type of shoes and mostly fo rrunning, but because my upper side foot is pretty wide the shoes always cracks on the outer sides both on the right and the left and then I'll have to through them away after 8 months. Now, I really would like to choose the right suitable shoes for my feet and the invironment that I'm using them, which is mostly on outdoor school activities and running sometimes on the asphalt or in the forest. So I really would like to get your help on which shoes do you recommend me to purchase (Altra Olympus 6) or (Hoka clifton 8 ) to be honest with you the Altra shoes seems to me a bit a big and huge compare to Hoka which basecally makes me a little bit hesitant to purchase them. Looking forward for your replay before making the order. Thank you
great video, i have Sesamoiditis do you have any suggestions?
I’m a huge fan of both the Clifton 8 and the Torin 5- very different shoes but I’d urge fans of one to try the other.
Great vid. Thank you for the breakdown. I have used both brands, but am locked in with Altra due to the fit. I may need to try a pair of the Paradigm for road running.
Question. I need to get a higher stacked pair of trail shoes for an upcoming ultra. I currently have the Lone peaks. I am thinking of either Mont Blanc, or Olympus. I’m thinking I love the feel of the Mont Blanc, but I because of my massive supination issues I should go with the more stable Olympus.
I give my two cents: For trail shoes, I tried many different things and just never felt comfortable in them, especially the width. Then, after watching an AT thru hiker talk about his shoes I tried the Altra 4. GAME CHANGER for me. They are so comfortable and the stack is plenty for "Rocksylvania" where I live and hike the AT. They are so comfortable I want to wear them all the time, but at that price I didn't want to wear them out. So, I actually searched for a used pair to use as daily wear shoes. I found a guy who bought several pair of Altra 1.0 shoes. He had 5 pair brand new still in the boxes because he didn't like them for running. I ended up buying 4 pair at $40 each. Now I have daily wear Altras for quite a long time!! :-) Good luck finding a shoe that works for you.
I agree with your assessment that if you are a big supinator the Olympus will give more lateral support. I also severely supinate but for me, even when I am doing higher trail miles, I don't have to worry about it as much as I do on the road. With the undulations on the trail, you are never really running and landing in the same spot. If I wear the wrong shoe on the road I know immediately. On the trail, I don't have to worry as much about neutral/stable-type trail shoes. Hope that helps.
Very helpful video
Great review
Thank you Carlos
What shoe do ya recommend for backpacking or day hiking
Can you do this same video just with the trail running side of these 2 companies?
Im a front foot runner and i was using Altra Rivera 1 and Lone Peak 5 for almost year. I ran two ultramarathons in LP and aprox 1800km in riveras. After that my heel started hurting so badly that I couldn’t run for 3 weeks. I had to go back to shoes with drop. Saucony Ride 15 and now Cumulus 25. Pain goes away 🤷♂️ i don’t know what could cause this pain but it is interesting that this pain was only in altras (0mm). Now im testing speedgoats 5 for this trail season and im really curious what will happen 🤷♂️
How do I know if I have a wide foot or narrow? Is there a measurement I can take to find out?
I hear the toe in the altra escalante 3 is more narrow than the 2.5, is there really that much difference?
I just switched to Altra after running in Hoka for about 8 years
I got plantar fasciitis running in Hoka - had for a year just starting to run again and taking it slow - altra was recommended to me - I use Riviera 2 for treadmill and Torin 6 for outside on the road
Thanks for comparison
Has the Altra helped?
I'm curious if the Altras helped as well. I run in Bondi 8 and I've been dealing with some gnarly PF...
Great video as usual Steve. I'm coming off of my 2nd tkr. I have severe flat feet. Would the Altra or Hoka be more suitable?
Hope you are healing up well! I'd definitely check out the Hoka Gaviota, it's great for flat feet and stability for knee health.
@@RunMoore Thanks Steve.
Good video and relevant to me as I’ve juggling between both brands mainly in the trail line up. Also Bondi is pronounced more like Bond-eye than Bond-ee.
Thanks for watching! I actually did a Bond-eye/Bond-ee thing on the Bondi version 8 video.
@@RunMoore Thanks Steve, all good mate. Keep up the great reviews - love the channel.
Awesome video
Thank you! We appreciate it!
I'm a fan of all brands I have altra Olympus, new balance fresh foam v4 hoka Clifton 8 what I do is I try all diffrent sneakers and rotate them on my runs. Oh I also have nike invincible great running sneakers
Love the video, great information. Have been a long time Altra fan, however since they have gone to the three different shoe platforms they have been a huge disappointment. Things are just becoming narrower and narrow with each new version of shoe. I feel they have lost their original mission trying to cater to the masses. As for Hoka, they have always been narrow, even with the wide and extra wide offerings, really not wide at all.
I hear you. They have a lot of shoes now they call "standard fit" which is not what got a lot of people in the brand to begin with. I got to see the 2023 shoes recently and they will have at least one new model that seems like a good step back in the old direction. Sort of a big step backward but in a good way.
@@RunMoore via olympus? or lp7
I'm an Altra fan too. I'd like to try the Hoka Clifton 9. But sounds like their toe box would be too narrow?
Could you do a video on recommended shoes for people with pronate problems? I saw your video on arahi 6 and gaviotas and I don't know which one to get
We are trying to do more comparison-style videos or just overall injury-of-foot issue videos in the future. Now, the easiest way to compare the Arahi and the Gaviota...Think of the Arahi as the little sibling to the Gaviota. The Gaviota is bigger, denser, heavier, more stable, and taller. The Arahi is lighter, more nimble, and less stable. They both are designed for pronation issues but the Gaviotas has more of it. The tradeoff is it weighs more and costs a few bucks more.
they both rock hoka little narrow cant go wrong with either!
What works for plantar fasciitis and shin splints?
You just helped me immensely. There's so much conflicting information out there. I have terrible plantar faciitis pain at the end of a 12 hour shift in a nursing facility. Additionally, i experience over-pronation and consistently twist my ankle if I run barefoot. Currently in the newest Arahi by Hoka, but I've noticed they don't help at all with my pain. I want to try the paradigm shoe, do you know if they'd help me to strengthen my feet?
hey have you made any progress on this? i resonate with you looking at the paradigm for over pronation and comfrtoable standing shoes.
@GandaBaer yes!! I went and bought the Altra Paradigms. I can't rave about them enough!! I broke them in on a shift and was amazed by how much less pain I have now, even after I take them off. I had been wearing the Hoka Arahi 6, but still noticed a ton of pain from my PF at the end of a shift. I look forward to buying more pairs of the Altra Paradigm shoe!! Again, thank you so much for your help and for checking back in!
@@courtneybayles8192 thanks for replying! That's awesome that it works out for you. What size shoe did you get? I find it's a little hard to find a detailed sizing chart for Altra haha. I've seen one chart say 1/2 up from regular narrow running shoe. Or measure the CM of your foot and add +1cm and that's your shoe size.
@GandaBaer I read they're a bit smaller than standard sizing but wider in the toe box. When I ordered my hokas, I read that they can be a bit more narrow, so I bought my normal size, but wide. The paradigm, I bought a half-size bigger, but standard width. They fit very similarly but the hokas feel longer on my foot at a size 9.5W than the paradigms at a 10 standard. The back of the heel in the paradigms also isn't as stiff as the arahis, if that makes a difference to you!
Its kinda confusing....i'm someone who has a high arch and i strike with the left corner/right corner of my heel. The result is that my shoes are always worn out on the left/right hand corners of the heel of the soles, to the point where i have to buy new shoes, even if the rest of the shoe and the sole are fine! I am not sure about whether the Torin 6 or the Provision, because i keep hearing the same characteristics for both models...
I'm not a stability shoe wearer, but the provision 6 ROCKS!!!
That is such a sneaky great shoe
Do you believe that the Torin is cushier than the Paradigm? Paradigm has a higher stack height but you mentioned it is denser to provide stability.
The Torin is a little softer just because it is not stable but its not a large difference
I wear Brooks Ghost for everyday trainer. I also have to Hoka Mach 5 which i wear for walking running. What Alta compares to those. I feel the Hoka is too soft for a everyday trainer
If im proe to ingrown toenails which of these would be better?
Nice video, thanks. I've recently felt I need to get a decent shoe for walking/treadmill. I live in "Chucks" and all these high shoes scare me. I tried a lot on at running store and came home with the asics GT4000 2. I've worn them walking on my treadmill for two days and find that even though they are cushy my toes rub on the side. I will be taking them back. This was the first time I've had my feet measured in ages - they're a lot bigger and flatter than I thought. I tried one pair on which IMO looked like clown shoes but they felt awkward walking in them. I'm going to ask about the Altra when I take the ascis back. I haven't worn anything besides my "Chucks" or UGG slippers. Any suggestions?
We appreciate your support for our channel! If you have been living in the Converse Chuck Taylors we would recommend looking at some models from Altra. They will give the closest flat sole “skate shoe” feel thanks to all of their shoes having zero heel drop and having a minimal stack height when compared to other brands. People with flatter feet have a tendency to pronate so we recommend either the Provision or the Paradigm. Both of these shoes are stable shoes that have a higher arch profile to help them provide more support for people with flatter, falling arches.
@@RunMoore thank you, I'll look into that brand.
Hello. What would be the best for plantar fasciitis? Thank you
Any shoes that are labeled as stability shoes work best for plantar fasciitis. The stability shoes that Altra offers include the Paradigm 7 and Provision 8. These shoes are built with a higher arch profile and Altra's GuideRail technology to keep your foot nice and supported. The stability shoes that Hoka offers are the Arahi 6 and Gaviota 5. Similar to the Altras, they have a higher arch profile. Hoka uses its proprietary J-Frame and H-Frame technologies to keep your foot supported.
Does the Bondi eight run better to size than the Bondi seven? The Bondi seven was a very narrow fitting shoe in my opinion. I could not wear the Bondi seven. The Bondi six had a much better Tru-Fit than the Bondi seven. Is the Bondi eight more to a true size?
The Bondi have wide and extra wide options
What is the closest to a Haltra? I love the toe box of an Altra, but my insipid foot likes the rocker system of a Hoka. Is the Vanish along those lines?
We recommend looking into either the Via Olympus or the Vanish Tempo. The Via Olympus is Altra's version of a Hoka Bondi. It has maximum cushion, a high stack height, and a rocker geometry which gives it a toe-off similar to a Hoka. The Vanish Tempo is Altra's faster training/racing shoe. It has a similar rocker geometry to the Via but is made to be more responsive and less plush than the Via. The Vanish will also feel narrow for Altra standards due to the slim Footshape fit. The Via would be better for everyday use thanks to the Plush cushioning whereas the Vanish Tempo is better for fast-paced workouts or tempo running thanks to the responsive cushioning.
Apples and oranges and i enjoy both
The world is more fun with more shoe options!
Altras for the win... But here me out...
The real difference is when you wear Zero Drop all the time, not only running.. Thats where your feet, ancles, knees and back after weeks, months, and years gets the pay out.
I'm trying to decide weather to buy Altra or Hoka or Topo. I would like to get a pair of Altra but not sure since I have a bunion on R. Toe. I have a pair of Topo's but they look clownish. I've never tried on the Altra but don't know if there toe friendly. Please help!
That Altra's are foot shaped so they have a similar vibe as the Topo on the toe (although Altra did it first!). They can be a game changer for bunion pain when you get the right model for your needs. I hear comments on how clownish a foot-shaped toe box looks but I promise, you have walked by a zillion people in Altras/topos and never noticed the toe box. I also have a bunion issue and when it is hurting I would wear anything just to make it feel better. For me, shoe comfort for my foot always outweighs the look.
The Altra counterpart to the Hoka Clifton is the Torin and the Bondi has the Paradigm on the other side.
yeah torin is just really not max cushion...not sure why anyone says so incl altra themselves
What shoe do you recommend if I have plantar fasciitis? Hoka causes me pain now .
Any shoes that are classified as stability shoes will help with plantar fasciitis. From Hoka, there's the Arahi 6 and Gaviota 5. From Altra, there is the Provision 8 and Paradigm 7. Some other popular options include the Brooks Beast, Mizuno Wave Horizon, and the New Balance Vongo.
I really enjoyed this! It'd be great to see the same comparison (Altra & Hoka) of each brand's trail shoes.
Also, I wonder what type of insole is a good replacement in Altra's for someone with a high arch. I love the cushiness of the Altra insoles and would like to swap them for something comparable. Is there something by Altra?
altra would tell you your arch should not be supported
The tricky part with swapping an insole in an Altra shoe is it changes the drop. Most over-the-counter insoles have a few millimeters of lift to the heel. Currex makes an insole for high arches that is zero drop. That would be a good one to check out.
Very nice
I have Mortons Neuroma in my left foot, not a runner just looking for a comfortable shoe to walk in.
Sounds like the Altra Torin 6
might be a good fit.
I am looking for widest toe box, zero drop and max cushion and can use a custom orthotic insole.
What shoe would suggest fits that bill?
Same! I have a Mortons neuroma as well! Currently have the Bondi 8 in a 4E width. I would like to try a shoe for walking that has a wider toe box only(not the whole shoe)
@@davegoslingphoto after researching quite a bit i decided against the Atra because it seems they are poorly made and fall apart quickly.
I have ordered a pair of "Flux Adapt Runner" which should be here around Friday, will let you know if they're any good.
They are not "max cushion" but don't need to be since I am only going to be walking in them.
I can't imagine that only about 4 brands make shoes that fit the human foot, seems utterly insane.
Altra, Topo, Lems, Flux are the only ones I can find that aren't ultra minimalist barefoot type shoes.
Altra is out for poor quality.
The Topo Magnifly 4 sounds good.
The Lems Primal Zen
And the one I just ordered Flux Adapt Runner.
The Topo Magnifly 4 is my second choice.
One other possibility is the Oofos shoe just not sure about the toe box
I mainly want for working in so I don't think any shoe would last over a year. I just need more toe room.. But I want a really cushioned shoe... Love the Bondi for that.@@nunyabizz50
I run in Altra for trail running which is 95% of my running. With the very little road running I do I use Hokas.
Same though my ratios are more 60/40
You are not alone in that 👍
You mentioned in the Rivera 3 review you didn’t know where to put the Rivera 1/2. Rivera=Mach.
Great video. Unfortunately I never found an Altre that fits and/or is comfortable despite trying many different models.
I use Topo and Hoka 2E because they are a better fit, better quality and also as a non essential bonus look nicer than Altra imo.
Will there be any difference if I buy the women's model according to the actual size of the men's model? For example, the men's US10.5 corresponds to the women's US12. I see that the inner length is the same. Can I choose this way?
Thanks for asking. The main difference you will notice will be the width. A women's standard size is the same width as a men's narrow size. If you have a narrow foot or you don't mind having a shoe that fits tight, there is nothing wrong with going for the women's size.
@@RunMoore OK thank you for your reply
@@RunMoore My shoes arrived, just as I judged, the women's US12 corresponds to the men's US10.5 and their widths are also the same, the women's B model corresponds to the men's D. And there is no narrow problem. I’m really lucky.
Hey that’s a catchy business name 😁🇺🇸
Thanks!
I wear the Bondi wide. Does the Torin have wide also ?
It does! It's the only road model that actually comes in a wide version. The Lone Peak also comes in a wide model.
I think I would have compared the models: Mach4/5 vs Vanish Tempo, Clifton vs Torin, Paradigm vs Bondi, Provison vs Arahi, Carbon X vs Vanish Carbon, Escalante vs Rincon. But in the end, no comparison is possible. Thick and rigid sole with drop VS flex sole with zero drop. The stride is completely different. I run in Hoka and Altra, and the further I go, the less I use the Hoka. Hoka disrupts my stride, and I lose all the training I did with the Altra.
Good comparison models there. Lot of fun stuff to debate doing this.
I just went for a professional fitting at a running store. I was told after the analysis that based on my feet and the measurements, etc that a low stack height is what I need. Is it even possible to tell that? The ones they pulled for me was the NB 880, Altra Torin 6 and a shoe called KARHU. I ended up getting the Torin 6. I do know that I put most of my the pressure on my heels. In your expert opinion is it possible to know if someone needs a lower or higher stack height based on an analysis of your feet? I don’t run but walk about 4 miles per day and get a back ache when wearing all of my current shoes. Currently I’ve been using glycerin and Clifton 8.
That's interesting. The only time I may suggest a lower stack height is the activities the person is doing or injury history (if someone has a balance issue I may not put them in a big tall Hoka for example). The Torin is a great shoe but it is one of the taller stack heigh Altra shoes too, so that sort of goes against that low stack height assessment. I don't want to second guess another shop out there so they may be doing things differently than we do here. We do like to pull Altras for people that put a lot of pressure on their heels because the zero drop almost forces you to move forward and towards the middle of your foot. It's a good shoe to try for sure I am unsure what they are using to decide on stack height or what they consider low stack height based on those shoes.
@@RunMoore Thank you for the response. If someone were to come into your shop who always gets a backache while walking and is a neutral what would you recommend? I put most all of the pressure on my heels. On my left foot they said the arch isn’t making contact with the ground. In my small town I’m limited on where to go. I had to drive 2 hrs one way to get to this one. I wish I lived in your state so I could visit the store.
@@reginaalear When someone has what I call a "floating foot" I put them in a stable shoe that has lateral support. A neutral shoe is fine but I would pull a stability shoe that has support on the outside of the foot. My favorite shoe right now for someone with back pain and an arch so high that it does not touch the ground is the Hoka Arahi. It has great cushion but the support around the heel is designed to not let you roll outside or in. My arches don't touch the ground and I have had back issues. This Arahi has been a game changer for me personally. My hips and back are so much better from when I would wear just a neutral shoe. Again, I do not want to second guess someone who saw you in person but I would try an Arahi (check out our online store!) and see if it helps.
@@RunMoore thank you for the advice. I appreciate it. I’ll definitely be placing a order. I’m still enjoying the Rincon 3’s I bought last time.
Altra automatic win due to foot shape alone
I still can't get what the Rivera 2 is for.... is it a more cheaper Escalante?
To me, it's like the little brother to the esclante. Less cushioned and more narrow. It has a pretty loyal fan base of people that find other Altra's too wide.
I had to return the womens bondi 7 wide . My high instep and arches & bunion didn't fit. Too bad they don't have xw or xxw
I would try looking into the Altra Torin 6 wide. It is essentially a 2E for women's, which is a double wide. You would have to size up in the Altras though.
Great vid! In terms of comparison, how do the Hoka wide ones compare with the Altra range? As an Altra fan, I find the standard hoka fit a bit constraining but I never had the opportunity of trying the wide ones
Don’t bother; the wides are not close to wide. Ugh.
I bought Speedgoat wide, but the toe width is barely adequate. Altra toe box is much better but no support or cushioning in the Long Peak. Wow. Modern designs are so uncomfortable compared to athletic shoes of 10 years ago.
Dragonfly agree 100%.
I have run in the challenger 4, clifton (4-7), speedboat (2-4), and rincon (2). In my feet, they feel somewhat narrow either after going up a 1/2 size or getting the wide version, which is too bad because I end up getting neuroma in my left foot. To alleviate things a bit I rotate them with altra escalantes and torins because I do really like the plushness and rocker shape of the platform. For reasons I don't fully understand, the clifton 6, rincon 2, and speedgoats have not been as bad as the other models and versions I've tried. In the most recent models, the clifton 8 definitely feels very narrow even going up a 1/2 number (I have not tried the wide in that model though). The altras are much better in terms of width although some models are worse than others, e.g., my torin 5s are not that great.
6:30 Did you mean to say if you’re an Arahi runner?
What Altra would you recommend for dealing with some Planter Fasciitis?
Personally, I would use the Paradigm. It has the most support in the arch. It is also a stable shoe that still has a nice cushion to it.
@@RunMoore that’s what I went with. Great minds think alike.
@@The1painkiller hows it been? in similar situation and thinking of ordering parad
@@GandaBaer I just went Altra all the way and it actually healed my planter. The zero drop actually built foot muscles. I do use the paradigm 6 as my recovery shoe for easy miles. I was unsure about them but now I think it was a great investment.
@@The1painkiller That's awesome to hear!! Thanks for responding. What was your shoe sizing experience like? Also are you mid/front foot striking or heel striking in everyday walking
Rivera vs Mach?
Since I started to run with Altra shoes (after ASICS, Adidas, Mizuno and Nike to list a few), I wont go back to a shoe which doesnt offer Zero Drop.
Jus bought mu new pair of Altra yesterday by the way in the only shop in Malaysia which carry this brand…