The Masoretic Text - Scribes & the Old Testament - Part 2

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  • @sarahhannahv
    @sarahhannahv 2 місяці тому +8

    Love it. Can't wait to learn more. I've been doing a study and sharing on the birth of the church and specifically who birthed the church. And what you've shared is right on target with what I've found in terms of the Roman church seeking authority over the other messianic congregations especially in Asia where we find the 7 churches or Messianic Communities spoken to in the Revelation of Yeshua given to John. There was a serious thread of anti-Jewish thought coming out of Rome especially after 70 AD which led to basically disassociation from Judaism, the Sabbath and Feast Days and basically anything Jewish. Many times we lauded Constantine for a great work and as a deliverer of the church and though he definitely put an end to the persecution and mass death of believers in Yeshua, he instituted Nicaean Christianity which was not quite what the Disciples of Yeshua passed on to the Followers of the Way. In fact many who did not go along with the Roman church and openly disagreed with them were also martyred such as Polycarp who was Bishop of the church in Smyrna. From my research it shows that within a couple hundred years, Rome began to make decisions on who could become Bishops and essentially which churches received support and which were shut down. A deviation from the Masoretic text would have been part and parcel with this separation from Judaism and their desire to give a higher place to church tradition would have labelled anyone disagreeing with them as heretic. Mind you these traditions were ultimately the inclusion of Roman traditions and pagan worship and deviation from observing the Feast Days like Passover as the day to commemorate Messiah's passion. Anyway maybe you'll explore some of these same facts in the videos to come. Can't wait! Well done 👏👏👏

  • @briteddy9759
    @briteddy9759 19 днів тому

    Absolutely fascinating and informative! Thank you.

  • @enricoventurini4593
    @enricoventurini4593 8 днів тому

    Awesome! Thanks. God bless you.

  • @Simrealism
    @Simrealism 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you so much, Avraham, for all the work and love you and Beth pour into these areas of study.

  • @olgathehandmaid
    @olgathehandmaid Місяць тому

    This is an insane amount of detailed and very specific information. Thank you for respecting our intelligence, giving us the nitty gritty, and so plainly demonstrating everything you can visually..... props for the use of Assassins Creed footage too.... fantastic work you guys, thank you as always.

  • @Byronswife
    @Byronswife Місяць тому

    Awsome channel , we are slowly learning Hebrew from you and your lovely wife.ty

  • @stcmattb
    @stcmattb 2 місяці тому +6

    Excellent work! Thank you for this course!

  • @briankelly5828
    @briankelly5828 2 місяці тому +1

    Enhorabuena on your new baby! This is an excellent discussion of the MT and I hope it gets a wide viewership, especially in Bible colleges and similar.

  • @danielacorradini1148
    @danielacorradini1148 2 місяці тому +1

    You guys are doing such an amazing work! Thank you so much for these excellent videos! So enriching!

  • @NoIdeaOnAnAlias
    @NoIdeaOnAnAlias 2 місяці тому +4

    Great presentation! I do feel however that one thing that was said around the 3:50 mark is not necessarily accurate or could be taken and twisted. To say that the spirit could cause scribes to make different editions of the same book, is a bit inaccurate because then anyone in our time could say that they were inspired by the spirit and add verses anywhere in the scriptures, and say that the spirit led them to it or even say that if it was done then, then why cant it be done now. Thus by these alterations (that most likely would not be by way of the spirit), these individuals could possibly and very catastrophically, alter the reading of the text thus changing the doctrine and the very understanding of scripture itself.

  • @premaraj
    @premaraj 2 місяці тому +1

    What a superb presentation and follow up to part 1. Thank you for this!

  • @simonrawson7335
    @simonrawson7335 2 місяці тому +2

    Superb. Thanks for all your work on this.

  • @mileskim8340
    @mileskim8340 Місяць тому

    I love these videos! I have a question: how did you make your animations of the scribes?

    • @AlephwithBeth
      @AlephwithBeth  Місяць тому

      They come from the discovery mode of the video game Assassin's Creed Origins, at the library of Alexandria.

    • @mileskim8340
      @mileskim8340 Місяць тому

      @@AlephwithBeth That makes sense! Clever!

  • @BesserGlauben
    @BesserGlauben 2 місяці тому +3

    The longer beard fits you really great Andrew!

  • @Monoglossia
    @Monoglossia 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks so much for this course. I just started a new job where I deal with stemmatology of the Hebrew Bible, so its's coming in super handy!

  • @GustavoGarcia-jd2nk
    @GustavoGarcia-jd2nk Місяць тому

    What a wonderful work. Thank you very much

  • @ghageman492
    @ghageman492 2 місяці тому

    Love these videos! Would love to see book recommendations to read more on this subject. Or maybe a mini “book tour” or recommended reading. Just a video idea😊
    Thank you all for your work for the kingdom.

  • @temple-crier
    @temple-crier 2 місяці тому

    Another excellent presentation. Thank you.

  • @christophesutter1844
    @christophesutter1844 2 місяці тому +1

    Très riche information 🔥💜🔥Merci

  • @wpuymac
    @wpuymac 2 місяці тому +2

    Excellent! Thank you!

  • @regbaker56
    @regbaker56 2 місяці тому

    I enjoyed your presentation Andrew - heaps of work for you all!!! where can I find lecture no. 1?

  • @filolinguista5576
    @filolinguista5576 2 місяці тому

    Excellent video! Thank you for this valuable information about the history of the compilation of the Hebrew text that is behind our Bibles today. I'd love to listen to the audio of this video from a podcast, I've already searched for it in the link provided in the description, but it's not yet available. I hope it'd be soon.

  • @LeviMogya-ts9tl
    @LeviMogya-ts9tl 2 місяці тому +1

    Power and knowledge at work true power.

  • @theoglossa
    @theoglossa Місяць тому

    Thank you. I reposted this in Theoglossa.

  • @beatrizn.5278
    @beatrizn.5278 2 місяці тому

    Ahh so it was Abraham narraring pt. 1!
    Amazing job, guys ❤

  • @JeffreyFung-f5o
    @JeffreyFung-f5o Місяць тому

    Is there a part 1? I can't seem to find the link.

  • @TeshuvahBibleStudies
    @TeshuvahBibleStudies 2 місяці тому +1

    Have I mentioned I love you guys? Well.. I do. Shalom and Todah.

  • @JoshuaPutney77
    @JoshuaPutney77 2 місяці тому

    Will y'all be delving into the "Proto-Sinaitic script', "Ancient Hebrew", or "Paleo Hebrew" conversation at all? I'd really like to know your thoughts on the original Hebrew language of Scripture.

  • @BesserGlauben
    @BesserGlauben 2 місяці тому

    What's your thought on the HBCE project, which also works on an eclectic text of the תנ"ך?

    • @AlephwithBeth
      @AlephwithBeth  2 місяці тому

      You can hear my thoughts here: podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/workingfortheword/episodes/The-First-Eclectic-Edition-of-the-Hebrew-Psalms---with-Drew-Longacre-e2l4cqd/a-abcgmei

  • @Mariocsalmeida
    @Mariocsalmeida 2 місяці тому

    Excelente !! Muita propriedade no que ele fala!

  • @kerrytusc
    @kerrytusc 2 місяці тому +1

    More, please…

  • @BoneyWhy
    @BoneyWhy 2 місяці тому

    It's nice to see someone explain how our Lord spoke directly of the TaNaK. Your beard looks nice, but I hope it doesn't turn into one of those long, messy types everyone is wearing these days! Thanks for sharing your gift!

  • @williambrewer
    @williambrewer 2 місяці тому

    Thank you!

  • @bw918t8y
    @bw918t8y Місяць тому

    Interested in your perspective on the translation of / vowel pointing of a “virgin shall conceive”. Have heard the masoretic pointing makes that word “young woman” rather than virgin. But that the LXX translates that as parthenos. And as the LXX predates Christ this indicates that the masoretic text has been altered to undermine Jesus as the fulfilment of that scripture.

    • @AlephwithBeth
      @AlephwithBeth  Місяць тому

      I've done an entire series on that :) Here's the first episode: podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/workingfortheword/episodes/The-Biggest-Brouhaha-in-Bible-Translation-Virgin-or-Young-Woman----The-Mother-of-the-Infant-King-in-Isaiah-714-with-Dr--Christophe-Rico-er66nd/a-a4p4ruj

  • @thomasioslo
    @thomasioslo 2 місяці тому +1

    Hi Abram ! Love your background of the text, but ... Where is Beth
    Longing for some more Hebrew. Why not reading some stories from the bible. Jonah + Ruth ?

    • @AlephwithBeth
      @AlephwithBeth  2 місяці тому

      Beth just had a baby. You can see our announcement on our socials.

    • @thomasioslo
      @thomasioslo 2 місяці тому +1

      @@AlephwithBeth Congratulations !!! Thats good news ❤
      One more in the team that will teach us Hiph'il.

  • @ma.lupita1082
    @ma.lupita1082 2 місяці тому +1

    Por favor lo oodrian poner subtitulos en español

    • @AlephwithBeth
      @AlephwithBeth  2 місяці тому +1

      Véase la descripción para un enlace para los hispanohablantes :)

  • @princezzlily7700
    @princezzlily7700 Місяць тому

    What information can you give us about the Cochin Hebrew New testament? There are claims that in India, where the texts were found, there were no persecution of Christians; hence, the texts is more reliable. Some say it is a translation of the Greek, but I have not seen that as a fact since I have been reviewing Revelations. I can see that the Cochin Revelation stands alone and has a lot of Hebrew idioms.

  • @Shinehead3
    @Shinehead3 13 годин тому

    Shabbat Shalom Brother and Happy Chanukah too 😊 So it appears the Masoretic Text aka Leningrad Codex seems to be a Preferred Translation of the Hebrew Tanach but wait...There's More 😊 We also have a Peshitta Tanach (Not Peshitto - oh how the Greeks and Romans love to Proclaim the Aramaic came after the Greek...) and We have the Taj...and We have the GEZ Bible 😊 So here is my Challenge Brother...Let us Endeavor to have a Masoretic Hebrew Interlinear with Fleshed out Dictionaries with Strongs and Brown Driver Briggs; A Peshitta Aramaic Tanach Interlinear with Fleshed Out Dictionaries with Marcus Jastrow Dictionary of the Talmud and Targumim, Aramaic Hebrew English Dictionary of the Babylonian Talmud by Rabbi Ezra Zion Melamed, Wolf Leslau' Comparative Dictionary of Ge'ez, unfortunately i have no recommendation of a interliner biblical Dictionary for the Taj aka Arabic English 😢 my hope is you4 Subscribers can recommend one 😊 and more Importantly LAST a Hebrew-Greek-English Interlinear Bible. It is TIME for the Western Understanding to take a BACK SEAT to the Eastern Understanding. Imagine 3 Eastern Interlinear Bibles each with FULLY Fleshed Out aka a Clear, Concise Definition for Each Native Word corresponding to the Respective Bibles !!! HALLELUJAH PRAISE YAH 😇🙌😊

  • @JosephMwanyika-u5x
    @JosephMwanyika-u5x 2 місяці тому

    Thanks so much Mr אברם for helping us to understand the history of our יהוה words in scriptures form but my question is the time has been passing and some words are not used even by the today hebrew speakers.How the researchers of the sriptures be able to identify the meaning.

  • @sidben-Yehoshuwa
    @sidben-Yehoshuwa Місяць тому

    ISR bible is a must

  • @betawithbrett7068
    @betawithbrett7068 2 місяці тому

    אברם, אנכי חושב אשר הזכן סביב פניך טובה היא. וגם תודה לך על הדבר הזה

  • @sidben-Yehoshuwa
    @sidben-Yehoshuwa Місяць тому

    Yeshua! Could you do a video on the origin of the name jesus?

  • @rinaamaya7382
    @rinaamaya7382 2 місяці тому

    Wonderful hallelujah amen
    Thanks God bless you
    Israel Zebaot Gibor Gadol bmiljama

  • @zakhrist9226
    @zakhrist9226 2 місяці тому

    Мой лайк №69

  • @pinoccio25
    @pinoccio25 2 місяці тому

    👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @antoniorobertomunizbarrozo6039
    @antoniorobertomunizbarrozo6039 2 місяці тому

    שלום אברהם

  • @Bolaway
    @Bolaway 2 місяці тому

    In certain point, Tiberias was right. They modified the text of Zecharyah about "pierced" in a way to negate Yeshua. Good that Qumran manuscripts refuted what They did.
    Tsadok Ben Derech made a video about it few years ago

    • @chrishouseofdawid
      @chrishouseofdawid 2 місяці тому

      Zechariah never talked about a messiah being pierced.

    • @Ralbuug
      @Ralbuug 2 місяці тому +1

      One word does not make everything else about Jesus theology correct. It’s like saying I’m the King of the USA because my great-grandfather was named George.

    • @BesserGlauben
      @BesserGlauben 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah that's not correct. There exists only a single manuscript in the Qumran collection of Zech 12:10, which only has "רו" of the relevant text - which is exactly the same as the masoretic text.
      Nobody modified anything in the masoretic text and the masoretic text doesn't even negate anyone being pierced, the masoretic text explicitly says it.

    • @Bolaway
      @Bolaway Місяць тому

      ​@@BesserGlauben Nobody? The person I mentioned in my commentary made 3 videos (6 hours in total) speaking exactly how They modified. He also showed in the video the texts modified.

    • @Bolaway
      @Bolaway Місяць тому

      @@Ralbuug Have you guys checked who I mentioned before comment here? For sure, you haven`t.

  • @adrianblake8876
    @adrianblake8876 2 місяці тому

    21:07 You should do verbs the way Beth does. "N-Q-D" is the root, "niqqéd" (in the pi33él pattern) is the verb. There is no verb "naqád" in the qal pattern in Hebrew (unless you count the participle "noqéd", but it refers to a shepherd...)

  • @theprogrammer8200
    @theprogrammer8200 2 місяці тому

    The Septuagint is contradicting the Masoretic text.
    Since the Masoretic text is correct, the Septuagint must be from the Devil.

  • @vianna.judeu.ashkenazi
    @vianna.judeu.ashkenazi 2 місяці тому

    בוחן