The Fall - 1983 Mark E Smith Interview / Words of Expectation / Kay Carroll

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  • 1. Interview with MES - late summer/fall 1982
    2. Words of Expectation live @ The Venue, London - March 22 1983
    3. Kay Carroll on phone with Tony Wilson - late summer/fall 1982
    4. Words of Expectation continued
    Kay was discussing Factory Records' VHS "A Factory Video" (FACT 56) which originally included a video for The Fall's Totally Wired (title card seen briefly at 3:25).
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    The audio/video goes a bit out of sync in the live sections, as it was on the original source.

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  • @MrWitchtrials
    @MrWitchtrials 5 років тому +30

    Blessed be those that 'get' The Fall.

    • @gorrillion1
      @gorrillion1 4 роки тому +5

      yea, and it can take a while before it clicks. I think the trick is to not try so hard to get into it, just let it wash over you and do it's thing, it can take years but in the end it's worth it.

    • @barrydrumm8633
      @barrydrumm8633 4 роки тому +1

      Well I started listening to the farm by mistake ,untill somebody pointed out to me it's not a mistake it's the fall

    • @michaelcollins7313
      @michaelcollins7313 7 місяців тому

      Spot on comment, it took me 30 odd years of seeing The Fall and buying up what I could get hold of before I became a total obsessive, sadly after MES's demise@@gorrillion1

  • @zaclang6472
    @zaclang6472 4 роки тому +13

    I was at that Gig - it was THE VENUE in London. RIP Kay

  • @zetetick395
    @zetetick395 3 роки тому +9

    The one sided conversation with an obviously exasperated Tony Wilson is frigging hi-larious! 🤣

  • @buymycomics
    @buymycomics 5 років тому +10

    I love that Fall groove. That shit hypnotizes me.

  • @joelrizzo991
    @joelrizzo991 6 років тому +11

    I'll take it. This is an amazing track! And always a treat to hear Kay's (and of course MES) voice.

  • @txtibiaga
    @txtibiaga 2 роки тому +4

    Not seen that live clip before.
    MES on top form, comfortable and relaxed even throwing in a wee groove.
    Steve Hanley burning it to the ground..

  • @sweetkat85
    @sweetkat85 6 років тому +8

    She was a winner! Crazy to think how much would change in 1983 for the band!

    • @Spectrescup
      @Spectrescup 6 років тому +2

      sweetkat85 yeah,they stopped being good.

    • @whatevershebrings
      @whatevershebrings 4 роки тому +2

      @@Spectrescup Thank you! I thought I was the only one who thought 'Perverted by Language' was a good record, though 'Hex' surely was their peak.

    • @remembererinandrews9150
      @remembererinandrews9150 2 роки тому +1

      @@Spectrescup The Infotainment Scan from 1993 is an amazing Fall release in my opinion. ua-cam.com/video/1fwzDqDsNAI/v-deo.html

  • @MarbleToMoon
    @MarbleToMoon 6 років тому +3

    Fucking brilliant. First saw this years back and still spine tingling seeing it now.

  • @georgelochinski8144
    @georgelochinski8144 4 роки тому +4

    RIP Kay Carroll

  • @punchcards1400
    @punchcards1400 4 роки тому +4

    RIP Kay

  • @PontiacS.
    @PontiacS. 7 місяців тому +1

    Seen The Fall once(unfortunately) September 1982.He's 25 here but seems like a Middle Aged man already.

  • @tomjones5687
    @tomjones5687 6 років тому +4

    Thanks for uploading this! I remember seeing a clip of this in the BBC4 documentary (where Kay is shouting on the phone) on The Fall and always wanted to know what is was from!

  • @joelrizzo991
    @joelrizzo991 6 років тому +6

    Cussing out Tony Wilson. Classic!

  • @speeduser3597
    @speeduser3597 5 місяців тому

    RIP Kay Carrol.

  • @timblackburn1593
    @timblackburn1593 6 років тому +2

    Wow

  • @Jlipnicki
    @Jlipnicki 3 роки тому +2

    I guessed she was talking to Wilson. Self portrait of Wyndham Lewis behind head.

  • @whatamalike
    @whatamalike 5 місяців тому

    Imagine being on the receiving end of Kay carol, id be bricking myself! 😅
    Rip luv. And mark 🙏

  • @JJONNYREPP
    @JJONNYREPP 2 роки тому +1

    The Fall - 1983 Mark E Smith Interview / Words of Expectation / Kay Carroll 1940pm 5.2.22 this suddenly appears. from nowhere.... though i hardly deemed the fall extreme - musically or lyrically. my fav interview segment of the fall. is this the flat that some wit made a no bulbs vid in? you see - the tyro image stuck on wall. saw this image by chance in hull art gallery. it was a pretty pleasing meeting. i'd recommend that image. how contrived was the fall? how contrived was smith's stance re: other band members and the music? how detrimental to the characters featured in the fall was the lead singer if you tried to socialise with him?... "i thought that burd shouting at tony wilson was funny"... "which bit...?" "errrr... foookin heeeeell." if you get some mushies and then wait 20 mins play this before setting out on a walk - allegedly....

  • @TheChrisrg
    @TheChrisrg 5 років тому +1

    Kay Carroll was funny 🤣👌

  • @cclewes7373
    @cclewes7373 4 місяці тому

    Kay was tough

  • @Jlipnicki
    @Jlipnicki Рік тому

    A girl I was a friend of in Manchester in the 70s mid wrote in a letter how she was hit on by Wilson and told him to leave his own big party.

  • @MadderMel
    @MadderMel 3 роки тому +2

    Hi Kay , can I please join The Fall fan club ??...

  • @johnbrewin1048
    @johnbrewin1048 6 років тому +6

    Karl Burns on guitar there?

    • @jimkay2728
      @jimkay2728 6 років тому +1

      John Brewin I thought I was seeing things!

    • @davidrathbone4029
      @davidrathbone4029 11 місяців тому +1

      Or is it a second bass? You can see the second drum kit set up, so he was drumming too at this show.

  • @dannyno3756
    @dannyno3756 6 років тому +2

    It's not Geoff Travis on the couch, surely? Looks nothing like him.

    • @cityworker
      @cityworker  6 років тому

      You may be right. I got it from the Simon Ford "Hip Priest" book -- "The video also featured a short interview with Smith and a clip of an irate Kay Carroll arguing on the phone with Tony Wilson about Factory using a track by The Fall on a video without the band's permission. In the background of this scene lurked Geoff Travis of Rough Trade." I'll update the video description.

    • @crose7412
      @crose7412 4 роки тому +1

      @@cityworker That is NOT Geoff Travis!

  • @danholliday5564
    @danholliday5564 3 роки тому +1

    Don't fuck with Kay.

  • @pch2230
    @pch2230 10 місяців тому

    To be honest she sounds more whiney than scary.

  • @angklungeds
    @angklungeds 4 роки тому +4

    RIP Kay