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you really should have mentioned that the judge in lula's case was corrupt and colluded with the prosecution, and bolsonaro also has issues with corruption
Fun fact: The center-right candidate soundly defeated by Lula in the 2006 election is now his running mate in this year's election. The US equivalent would be something like Obama being allowed to run again in 2028 and picking Romney as his VP.
Except Obama was center right and pro big business. Which was why no one went to prison for the sector wide fraud in the financial crisis and Obama continued Bush era foreign policies like mass surveillance. Obama is the opposite of Lula. Not even remotely close.
Good video. However, any explanation of Brazil's politics in the last decade without considering the partial role of Sergio moro - the judge that prosecuted Lula - and his alliance with Bolsonaro is missing a crucial step.
Completely false and proven false by numerous international agencies, Lula is a Chinese sellout who will throw any Brazilian under the boss to enrich himself and Beijing
Lol He was supposed to be in prison, a bandit created the biggest criminal organization Brazil has ever seen, having that bandit as president is a shame!!
@@CaesarLvcivs He wouldn't. He literally won three years after being released. And he would've won then as well, even though "antipetismo" was on its rise. Bolsonaro is the first president, ever since redemocratization, to be unable to re elect himself. It just shows how incompetent he was, though his army is huge and particularly noisy (still couldn't shut up to this day).
Yes, the video implies corruption on Lula by showing that he was arrested, but the fact that the process and the trial was staged and prosecution was following the judge's orders, it not mentioned. On top of it, the judge became Justice minister of Bolsonaro's presidency. The story of the judge deserves a video on itself.
Vox makes videos that are easy to digest by not going really in depth on the subject at hand. Thankfully the Car Wash operation and its aftermath were widely covered at the time by international news, so I’m aware that a few important details were left out (Dilma wasn’t actually implicated in bribes, the Congress applied a chokehold to her government, the party with the highest amount of members involved in the so-called Petrolao was the PP, which was ironically Bolsonaro’s previous party, etc). 9 minutes is not enough to understand the Brazilian saga of 2002-2022, so I didn’t expect a full coverage, but for the uninformed viewer, this could affect its understanding of the whole story, yes.
Worth mentioning that the minister of the Supreme Court who cancelled lula’s long list of crimes was appointed by Lula himself! As for former judge Moro having become a minister of Justice in Bolsonaro’s team is very normal! Poor narrative of losers!
English speakers might be able to imitate the sound properly if they spell out "zh". In IPA it's written as /ʒ/ and called a voiced alveolar approximant if I'm remembering correctly. (Edit: It's actually called a voiced alveolar fricative)
No Brasil temos 3 poderes. Um deles o Judiciário em específico o STF onde é a corte máxima, soltaram ele passando por cima da constituição. Curiosidade: quem em espefico soltou ele foi quem o próprio Lula indicou na época do seu mandato a vaga na cadeira do STF. Estamos começando a passar problemas de censura.
yes, Vox seems to imply it Dilma Rouseff "fell" because she was caught in a corruption scandal. wrong. Dilma is the most goody two-shoes politician to a fault, one of the reasons she was hated in congress, she wouldn't "play ball". she was coup'ed in an Impeachment for manipulating the appearance of the budget, an election-time maneuver use by all recent brazilian presidents before her AND after her. the documentary "The Edge of Democracy" by Petra Costa is beautiful and follows this process well.
@@bartomalatesta5652 She was removed because in 2014 the people took the streets protesting for her impeachment. It wasn`t a coup because that is what the people protested for. All the government did was give the people what they wanted.
Indeed, Dilma was impeached because she didn't bend to what we call "centrão" (or the big centre... a bunch of smaller, very corrupt political parties that sway accordingly with the party in power). Even her vice-president (a participant in the "centrão" himself) actually had a part in the coup d'etat against her.
Bolsa Família was not a new program. Lula created just the new name. The program was created by the former president Fernando Henrique Cardoso, and it was called Bolsa Escola.
The fact that this video does not highlight what actually happened with Lula's prosecution and the bogus nature of the charges is really pretty terrible.
A correction: Rouseff was never included in the corruption from Petrobras (The oil state company) as said on the video (not my opinion, you can search for all juridical sources). Her economic plan was not good and trying to reduce the corruption mainly from the center/right parties, she creates issues with the parliament that, with the wealthy people, forced her government to an end. The police operation that has found that massive corruption was dried after she left the power, as an extra evidence of what really happened.
Dilma was on the of the board of directors of Petrobras 2003-2010, right when Lavajato picked up steam in 2004. Dilma was very close to Dirceu during the time of Mensalao. Dilma was chair of the board at Petrobras at the height of Mensalao and when the dutch contractor SBM was found to be paying bribes to Petrobras personnel and to her Workers Party.
@@Formed123 all of that is circumstantial and no actual evidence of corruption was ever brought up against dilma which is evident in the fact that they werent able to take away her electability after her controversial impeachment
You forgot to mention US’s involvement in Bolsonaro’s election. He had the same campaign manager as Trump. And let’s not forget US’s role in dissolving BRIC, as this coalition was successful and very competitive in the global economy.
As well as the White House using NSA, CIA, FBI since 2013 to help brazilian right wing to overthrow the former president Dilma Roussef with a coup (and also spy Brazil state oil company Petrobras) jointly with brazilian Federal Prosecutor to perform lawfare against Lula and his party preventing him to run for presidency in 2018
@@MarcosPaulo-xs5em pesquisas aos quais foram mostradas todo santo dia dando uma enorme vantagem pra lulinha para os indecisos preferissem votar nele achando que ele venceria
@@rkeogh3467 I'm aware. We used to be red for left as well becuase it was associated with communism. I'm pretty sure it changed becuase of the Reagan election it was easier to have red for Reagan.
it is a very common color layout. I think of it as red being the banner of the workers who wish to distribute wealth and power and blue being the banner of the conservatives who wish to primarily maintain their economy, society and wealth as they believe it should be.
Not true, COVID retracted the economy in 4.7% as 2014 crisis causes a retraction of 3.5%. Brazil got out of the list of 10 biggest economies in the beggining of 2021
They also acted like the recession reason was because of the commoditys price fall, in reality it was the fact that in Lula goverment he suported many polices, specially ignoring the budget celling. Their police kept themself working because of the comodity surplus but it was a ticking time bomb and they just ignored it. The anoying part is that since it happened after Lula goverment, in his debates he just throws is positives numbers since the negatives came after, and even looking at the growth during his time, if you compare it with the region (South America) and countrys in a similiar economic situation ( emergent economus - BRICKS) youll see his economic group was just staying on track. This also includes poverty assistence sonce there was a global tendency of lesser poverty in that time
A simple google search shows that this is false, the 80s had the largest economic recession (not to mention the poverty rates were much larger than in the 2010s).
@@gabrielsiqueira4384 By a couple of years, not almost a decade. 2023 its the year the economy gets back to what it was pre Dilma! That's how bad that recession was, don't try to defend a CRISIS! Nothing about it was good!
Dear Vox, Can you make a video like this on how Sri Lanka was bankrupted. Actually my country had a long history of corruption, abuse and embezzlement but a one political family called Rajapaksa regime intensified all those bad things and now we experienced a massive and severe decline in everything. So please focus on this matter as well.
@@tinaandro1178 Vox story telling is unique and creative. And also it has a larger audience. In that sense, we can permeate awareness of our country's situation.
I (as brazilian) find it very interesting when I see something like this video in the internet. It's hard to see foreign people talking about your country and its' political debate, yet here I am. Thanks for bringing such an interesting video on the topic and I hope more people watch it and understand a little bit more about foreign countries politics.
Pena que tem uma dúzia de falhas de explicação e falta de citação de informações extremamente relevantes para a compreensão dessa situação, por exemplo sobre as condenações de Lula e da maioria de seus chefes de governo e trazendo comentários bastante tendenciosos também a respeito de Bolsonaro.
It's actually not the hard, I live in The Netherlands and there was a lot of coverage on the news on the election day and the following. On the first turn I was in portugal and that was all that was being talked about on the news and even by people at the beach lol, but I guess for portugal its not so surprising
same here. Although its sad to see how politics in Brazil turned into a very hateful thing, with almost no facts, just supersticions that are created to put more heat into people's hatred.
@@larl07 , Perhaps you should have said: "I don't think this audience wants to see a far-right-winger as a criminal. Or not 🤔 This audience does want to see a far-right-winger in jail. 🤭
@@sudi_cloud nah i meant that this video is not about how Lula is a criminal. That's why Moro is not mentioned, this audience is one which tends to want to root for the left winger, regardless of the ~18 billion returned from his corruption schemes.
@@larl07 to accuse someone of a crime you need proof beyond a PowerPoint presentation. To say "alleged" corruption and leave it at that without mentioning Sergio Moro does not tell the whole story. By the way, in which of Lula's secret Swiss Bank accounts were these 18 billion you mention stashed away?
@@readisgooddewaterkant7890 "thejuicemedia" covered the current Government pretty well. "The edge of democracy" is a documentary about the Dilma situation that was nominated for the Oscar
I currently live in Brazil and it's been a year. I just want to say a big thank you for explaining this whole election in the simplest way ever. I am so grateful. Now i can add to my research and educate my subscribers. Thank you
While this is a good starting point for understanding Brazil's political situation, I would recommend doing further research on some of the topics that were only lightly touched on, particularly Lula's arrest and Dilma's impeachment. Both are much more complex than the video makes them seem. I would recommend the Oscar-nominated documentary Edge of Democracy on Netflix to understand the political climate during Dilma's impeachment trial. It's from the POV of someone who was against her impeachment (as a great many Brazilians were) but it covers the issues many of us had with the way this trial was conducted, as well as showing the side of this period that much of the foreign press pays little attention to.
@@cyberpunkqueen1525 Many were against? lol Oh yes because we, Brazilians, were so happy about the worst economic crisis in the history of our country under Dilma. I really miss those times.
@@ridethelighting83 The Intercept found irrefutable proof that Moro, the judge that convicted Lula and was later appointed as a Minister by Bolsonaro himself, was instructing prosecutors to find whatever way possible to frame Lula. No material evidence was ever found to prove Lula's personal involvement with any corruption scandal. Eventually, his convictions were overturned due to lack of evidence and illegal practices by judge Moro during the trials.
@@ridethelighting83 Basically, leaked Telegram chats between the judge (Sergio Moro, who later became Bolsonaro's Minister of Justice) and the attorneys that convicted Lula showed that it was not a fair judgement, and the intention was to get him arrested all the time, no matter if the evidence was inconclusive.
Yeah, I wouldn't expect a English language vehicle to pick up on the nuances about the matter. Like how the reason to why the process that led to Lula's prison was judged by someone that later admitted to have a personal vendetta against Lula and actually served as Justice Minister for Bolsonaro. This man was Sérgio Moro, who late on Bolsonaro's time in charge left the government claiming he did everything Bolsonaro asked him so he could protect Bolsonaro's criminal sons, but also supported Bolsonaro in his campaign and got elected as senator. Another fun fact: Sérgio Moro had meetings with the CIA and United Started Defense department. Private meetings. As a member of Brazilian government. After leaving Bolsonaro's government, he went on to work in companies that had their entire business around rescuing the Brazilian companies Sérgio Moro helped to destroy. Pretty convenient, right? Anyone can check this up online. Another massive mistake here is to say that Dilma herself was involved in any corruption scheme around Petrobras or, even worse, that was the reason she got taken out from office. She wasn't and her impeachment was a literal coup, where she got accused of practices Bolsonaro and many others would do before and after her and never got the same judgment. Also, another tip to the fraudulent backbone of it all: one of the legal consequences of a impeachment in Brazil is the loss of political rights, but Dilma didn't lost hers, in a unbelievable demonstration that they just needed her out, not necessarily being concerned about the law.
Funny you only talk about Sergio Moro (who later was running against Bolsonaro) but forget to mention the other 9 judges who not only condemned Lula, but INCREASED his imprisonment period after Sergio Moro
@@VitorHugoP Moro's never run against Bolsonaro. He was actually with Bolsonaro Team in the the 2nd round, even though he pointed that Bolsonaro was making efforts for obstruction of justice. It doesn't matter that Lula was convicted of corruption by the the Court. The process itself was null for 2 fundamental reasons: it shouldn't be prosecuted in Paraná and because Moro was promised a chair in the Supreme Court, so he worked with the prosecuters to make Lula go to jail and Bolsonaro could win the 2018 election.
@@zvlfn @waterbonkie is right. The letter J in portuguese always has the same sound as "conclusion", "pleasure", "unusual" (/ʒ/ phoneme). Examples: "José Alencar", "Lava-jato" (Car Wash Operation), "janela" (window), "jogo" (game), "coruja" (owl). It's a bit hard for us brazillians because we don't have the J sound in portuguese - like in "jazz", "job", "age", "edge" or "general" (/dʒ/ phoneme), so when we say "Jackson" it's common to use /ʒ/ phoneme instead of the /dʒ/ phoneme, because it's a new sound for us.
@@thon6760 we do have the dzh sound. Especially in words such as "Jonathan" (sometimes spelled Diônatan), or any other words with "di" in many dialects. Edit: also in borrowed words such as the ones you've listed. It's already a pretty common sound in our pronunciation of "jazz" and "job"
yeah because the J is very different in the languages they know, spanish speak like "Hosé", sometimes "Yosé", and english speak with a "d" sound at the beginning. I think the better way to teach some english speaker to pronounce it correctly is to tell them to speak Joseph, but without the D sound and the "ph", and entone the "e"
@@paulimriss You can also go after words that do the portuguese "j" sound in English, like Fusion (the s) or vision (again, the s) or seizure (the z) edit: or tell them it's the french "j", that would work too, if they know some french
As a brazilian i can talk Lula was acused of being involved in numerous corruption scandals (more than 50). he was released from jail because the STF (as a supreme Court in the US) didn't judge him because he had more than 70 years old, and also because the STF changed its interpretation of improsenment during the second instancy.
From a political standpoint, Poland is actually a near-perfect mirror reflection of the US, as there are only 2 main political parties: far-right nationalist and Christian-conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party, and the centrist Civic Platform (PO), with no true left-wing party.
I don't get why English-speakers pronounce José (when the name is, clearly, supposed to be in Portuguese) as they do in Spanish. Just pronounce the 'J' as you would in the name James or Joseph.
It's a common mistake that they assume J in Portuguese is pronounced the same as it is in Spanish. And actually, it's pronounce like zh rather than English J.
Or, rather, pronounce it the correct way (phoneme /ʒ/, think the French J). But yeah, between mistakenly pronouncing it like in Spanish and doing it in English, the latter is the better. There's already enough people that think we just speak Spanish like everybody else in the region.
It's not English speakers so much as US Americans... British commonly prounce the hard J because they are either lazy/uncultured or due to their closer ties to Portugal where they have a hundred years old alliance, whereas Americans are very closely tied to Latin America in trade and culture and a large minority speaks Spanish fluently.
probaly a trend in later stage developing countries & regarding bolsonaro particularly because far-right ressurgences are a common phenomenon in a left-leaning government's crisis
Bolsonaro never ever tried any move against the media and the brazilian supreme court is basically favoring candidates in election, its just so bizarre... You might think that i'm some sort of radical, but let me tell you something: After the election a supreme court judge( the one who judged the election rules) went to a party with Lula and his lawyer to dance samba, can you believe this? its just so ridiculous... The same judge that New York Times said it was crossing the line...
Anos de política resumidos em 10 minutos deixam o vídeo faltando MUITOS pedaços fundamentais, tanto pra defender/acusar o Lula quanto pra evidenciar problemas do Bolsonaro. Porém concordo q tá raso demais
O mundo real não é como dizem no grupo da família no zape zape. Ou você abre o olho para a verdade ou vai para a porta de um quartel chorar e virar meme.
@@laurojr.7240 I support Lula Because I know that he has more honor in him than bolsanoro So if you have any Brazilian friends please encourage them to vote for Lula because the deforestation you’re experiencing just can’t continue it needs to stop And in case you’re wondering why deforestation served under his presidency
@@jamessparkman6604 The only bad thing about Lula was that he stole billions, apart from the robbery he did a lot of good things, especially for the poor public.
basically we are seeing a video of a person with bad administration being like this in his 2 terms being below average per administration he stole billions of BRL and his government only had low inflation because of commodity valuations the whole world was like that he wants to control social networks in Brazil too
@@menash000 sou um Investidor e entendo meios de economia e política diferentemente de vários vitimistas sem base de argumentos sobre o meio de política e economia
This video is very poor made. And it is skewed!! Im Brazillian, and it is really sad whats happening here. And what is really concerning is that most part of the media, local media and international media, is contributing to to the loss of freedom of the brazillian people.
1:25 vs 6:47 // funny how vox explains how Lula cam from the 'left' whilst, on the same graph-scale, she uses the term 'far right' when introducing Bolsonaro. These are micro-strategies the media uses to smear its opposite. Nowadays most people realise these tactics, but I'm sure a lot of people didn't even notice this detail.
Vox is just as the uol: don't trust in it. I know this channel since 2020 and boy: it's dishonest and pretty left wing and will use any dishonest statistics and etc.
Mas não é meio que verdade? Se lula fosse um candidato de extrema esquerda, ele não dialogaria com figuras de direita como Alckmin ou liberais como a tebet. Ja Bolsonaro simplesmente não dialoga com a esquerda, e agora nem mesmo com candidatos de centro-direita. Fora a semelhança de sua filosofia com outros governos de extrema direita.
Agree, thank U. Brazil will never become a well function society, compared to US. Our politician only cares about themselves and their people, inequality it's un rise not just between people of difference background but also on greedy political view for the middel-class's and upper class and etc...
I'm Brazilian, and I can say, not fearing to be wrong that I neither support nor vote on Lula. He was arrested due to corruption, condemned in all 3 instances of the Brazilian judiciary. He shouldn't be allowed to be electable. Plus, he defend more power to State, in terms of economy. He is against privatization. Basically, for him, everything should be ruled and monitored by the government, even midia. That's why I never supported and will never support him.
Small correction: Brazilian J is not pronounced like Spanish. For "José", think Zhozé, not Hozé. This is just an approximation due to the different phonetic inventories, but it's J as the S in "measure" or the Z in "seizure" (the same as French J), the O is closed as in "potencial", the S is pronounced like a Z, and the É is open somewhat like the A in "at". The more precise description is [ʒo.'zɛ], but many Brazilians reduce the first vowel to [u] or [ʊ] because it's unstressed, so many natives, including me, will actually say [ʒu.'zɛ]. Also, for the surname "Alencar", there are two R sounds in Brazilian Portuguese, /ɾ/ (alveolar tap, like T in "better" or "water" in some dialects) and /x/ (voiceless velar fricative, like Scottish "loch"), this one is the tap. In standard Brazilian Portuguese, the R is never like in English "red" or "rose".
?????? A democracia ia acontecer de qlqr forma de um dos lados, acho q n é mt democrático dizer q um sistema de eleição venceu só pq seu lado venceu e a outra metade do país não pq n concorda com seus ideais.
@@johndraper4211 deixa eu ver se entendi, um dos dois queria aumentar o numero de ministros no supremo pra ter maioria, aparelhou a PF pra não ser investigado e fazia apologia a ditadura no país desde a época de Deputado, mas os dois eram igualmente democratas?
@@onorioneto3798 Ter uma maioria no supremo não quer dizer literalmente nada, já que não garante nem sequer alguma vitória em um julgamento ou um apoio, se fosse assim, o PT já possuía desde muito tempo uma maioria avassaladora no supremo, logo, isso não quer dizer se tratar de um regime antidemocrático, já que o próprio Lula possuía grande parte do supremo e foi eleito por um grande tempo repetidamente. Sobre a PF, sinceramente, não deu a entender bem o que quis dizer, mas se tu se referiu sobre indicar um superintendente da PF, isso é literalmente uma atribuição de todo presidente a ser eleito no país. Sobre a ditadura n tenho mt oq falar msm, já que não sou muito apegado ao tema da ditadura militar, mas ao menos sei que defender é uma coisa e fazer apologia é outra. Tal coisa que o PT já fez apologia a ditaduras socialistas/"comunistas" na América, como no caso da Venezuela e de Cuba(tirando a ditadura chinesa), mas claro, isso não é antidemocrático, é apenas apoiar um bando de ditaduras com uma apegada de sua ideologia. Então não, acho que não foi antidemocrático por parte da metade de seu país apenas por estar de um lado oposto e concordar com ideais diferentes, lembrando que passamos 4 anos e por estarmos em um regime democrático não deu poder algum a um presidente(que sinceramente, não possui tanto poder quanto aparenta), tanto que a mídia junto de outros criticaram ele durante todo seu governo sem medo algum e das formas mais diversas e até mesmo estúpidas possíveis, e ainda não vejo um enorme cartaz do "glorioso líder Bolsonaro" em qualquer lugar político como uma figura suprema, "metade" do país destestando-o, "metade" do país apoiando-o/idolantrando-o e o resto simplesmente não apoiando ninguém e indo na leva.
@@Yeen_ If you really want to know, you're going to need time. I recommend the documentary "Teatro das Tesouras" (theather of scisors in english) by Brasil Paralelo, I don't know if it's available in your country.
Good video, but you guys really took a side there. It would be better mentioning the whole 230 billion reais cut off from the healthcare investments, the Petrolão and Mensalão. I hope Brazil will see the truth, and reelect our great president.
Brazillians were blissful when Lula was arrested. We had hope that widespread impunity for politicians was finally coming to an end, after we manged to arrest a former president. But that joy was short-lived, when a supreme court judge apointed by Lula nulified his conviction.
Correction: brazil did not grow because of Lula, but in spite of him, because of the commodities boom (which he took little advantage of). With that he made assistance measures, just look at Dilma. As you said, as soon as the sale of commodities decreased, that chaos of her government came.
Como disse a Dilma, ela era uma mulher dura em uma mesa cheia de homens fofos e carinhosos. Falar da Dilma com essa visão, é uma visão rasa do que realmente aconteceu.
The whole world was affected by Covid. Bolsonaro's government provided 600 BRL per month of support for poor people, it enable the country to reduce its poverty index. The violence in Brazil decreased by more than 20% in the right-wing government. They also finished building a bridge to take water to the Northeast - a work that PT's government hadn't finished.
The Republic of Brazil is doomed to failure. I think that the words of the writer Erça de Queiroz will one day come true. "Brazil is Empire, it will be Republic and then it will be Empire again."
why did you put this woman pronouncing the names as if they were in spanish?? we don't speak spanish, it's not "hosé", it's "JHOsé", if you're gonna go the extra mile to try and sound respectful at least go all the way, jesus
The video is not for us, it's for then. We spell anime wrong? No, it just our definition of the word here in Brazil and the others country have their own definition and spelling
@sunrise not defending Sir Bolsonaro at all, didn't even mention it but surely the teenager minion will blindedly follow his 9-fingered dictator (until he has to commit cannibalism) your argument against literally all i've presented: "stahp trying!:("
@@tiagosousa2378 it is. Would you mind reading the definition of "majority" in the dictionary please? And you are right, there was buying of votes, for bolsonaro! Many business owners payed their employees (or otherwise just threatened them of being fired) to vote for bolsonaro, let alone the PRF operations to try and stop as many buses as they could full of northeastern low income people, to stop them from voting and lower the amount of votes Lula would get. All in all, Bolsonaro used everything in his power to win the election, and still lost. Ouch!
Glenn Greenwald deserves a huge shout out for documenting how Lula’s prosecution was corrupt, ultimately leading to his being freed. Lula would not have won, but for Glenn Greenwald’s tireless journalism.
The video is perfect to state That Lula was released from prison by the Supreme Court (that he indicated by the time he was president). He was never considered innocent in any of his trials considered guilty by over 10 judges and 3 different stances.
Good video, but It would be better if it had clarified that: "The STF did not acquit the defendant Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. He did not deal with the merit of the conviction. It was not stated at any time that the defendant is innocent, but it was considered that it was not up to the Federal Court of Paraná to judge him in those specific cases," says Gamboa in the petition that insists that Lula and his companies, targets of Lava-Jato, settle accounts with the Treasury. He isn't considered innocent, that's one of the reasons why the current election is so problematic. Lula is not the "less worse" guy. The video gave the idea he was considered innocent, which is not the case. He was charged in almost all the accusations in Parana, but since the judgment was transported to Brasilia, the case has been restarted and declared void because the evidence produced and the processes were considered compromised, hence the annulment of them by the Supreme Court. For this reason, it is not technically correct to say that Lula was acquitted or acquitted in these specific cases, since there was no valid trial.
@@mattcrvg Which means they couldn't prove officially his innocence nor guilt. He was actually being considered guilty in most of them, but since all the cases had to move to the jurisdiction no another state, it was considered that the whole investigation would need to be completely restarted and by then, the material would be already too "contaminated". He's NOT innocent. In reality it's like he didn't even respond to those crimes, since they weren't finished investigated. He is just not considered guilty by justice, because he wasn't even judged by that. The investigation hadn't been complete. And to consider him more inclined to be guilty comes to the fact money was found. An amound of money he wouldn't have if it wasn't from corruption. He wasn't accused of just one case of corruption, he went to jail for some of them, the reason why he couldn't run for the election of 2018. What happened is that the rest of the cases he was being accused couldn't be completely investigated. But he is NOT innocent.
@@nahrampasso2261 Spare the mental gymnastics, there’s a universal principle called presumption of innocence. Lula may have not received an acquittal veredict but he returned to his innocent status merely by not being proven guilty, as any other citizen would be.
@@K4lamazu I know that. But would you have the trust to elect someone who was considered "innocent" for not being investigated properly in these conditions to be the president of your country? Why not elect other? And when I say other I'm not even talking about Bolsonaro, any other.
It's strange how almost every part of the word had an major, Overton-Window shift to the far right in the 2010s -- a trend that has managed to persist into the 2020s
This is likely due to the 2008 recession, people saw that the current governments weren't able to avoid it so they wanted a change in power. There was huge global shift in politics during the aftermath. When the public go from living comfortably to to the opposite they want change quickly and usually lean towards more extreme political views with strong voices & opinions.
The reason for that is Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon. They discovered how to successfully exploit social media and the internet by using big data and targeted campaigns to steer people's political views and sentiments.
Bolsonaro isn't "Far" right. He is just a mediocre and poorly-prepared conservative politician. The label "Far Right" was just a media effort (yes, media in Brazil is basically ran by one big company and few satellite outlets mimic it) to make that guy look extreme and radical, but it is far, far, far from reallity
This video is completely wrong, Roussef was never guilty of any accusation and so was Lula, that proved his innocence even on ONU. Lula was accused of owning a cheap appartment and a terrain, that both did not belong to him. For Christ sake, our great media in Brazil is the same from dictatorship times, it means they don't care for the Brazilian people's interests, but the US', who was to blame for the operation Condor and also the fall of Roussef (NSA documents point to Dilma Rousseff as a target of espionage, and also CIA was getting involved in the car wash operation).
@@paulobaceIar não basta passar vergonha em português, o gado gosta de passar vergonha em inglês também. É a burrice dos minions à mostra pro resto do mundo.
@@martinc.720 the R pronunciation belongs to the spanish language, and, contrary to what some ignorant people out there, specially in the U.S., might think, we DON'T speak spanish. See what I mean?
@@martinc.720 no, I do not see what you mean. Its one thing to pronounce things as you would in your language, its another to pronounce them as you would in a different foreign language. Its by definition deliberate
well, Vox forgot to say that Lula was never considered innocent... and talking about democracy have you guys heard about TSE censorship here in Brazil?
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no mention of sergio moro?
you really should have mentioned that the judge in lula's case was corrupt and colluded with the prosecution, and bolsonaro also has issues with corruption
Bolsonaro presidente 22
Do a video about Bolsonaro’s corruption he robbed billions from Brazil and his money is stashed in Dubai
@@emanoelmso go lula
Fun fact: The center-right candidate soundly defeated by Lula in the 2006 election is now his running mate in this year's election. The US equivalent would be something like Obama being allowed to run again in 2028 and picking Romney as his VP.
Except Obama was center right and pro big business. Which was why no one went to prison for the sector wide fraud in the financial crisis and Obama continued Bush era foreign policies like mass surveillance. Obama is the opposite of Lula. Not even remotely close.
Which shows how broad Lula's front is. It is necessary, because the country is extremely polarized and, unfortunately, heavily armed by Bolsonaro.
Obama is centre right as it is though?
@@bri1085 US Democratic Party is basically centre right compared to most other countries
Lula: the left wing enlightened centrist ahah
Good video. However, any explanation of Brazil's politics in the last decade without considering the partial role of Sergio moro - the judge that prosecuted Lula - and his alliance with Bolsonaro is missing a crucial step.
This video didn't show enough how insanely corrupt Lula is. It's thanks to him that Bolsonaro has risen
Completely false and proven false by numerous international agencies, Lula is a Chinese sellout who will throw any Brazilian under the boss to enrich himself and Beijing
@@matheus5230 I can see that that's certainly your opinion. I dissent.
Sim, "detalhe" importantíssimo que faltou e também o golpe contra a Dilma
EXACTLY. This video is GROSSLY misinformed. Should be remade.
It would've been important to mention that Lula was sent to prison while he was attempting to run in the 2018 presidential election.
It does not change the fact that he would've lost. He should still be in jail, BTW.
Lol He was supposed to be in prison, a bandit created the biggest criminal organization Brazil has ever seen, having that bandit as president is a shame!!
@@CaesarLvcivs He wouldn't. He literally won three years after being released. And he would've won then as well, even though "antipetismo" was on its rise. Bolsonaro is the first president, ever since redemocratization, to be unable to re elect himself. It just shows how incompetent he was, though his army is huge and particularly noisy (still couldn't shut up to this day).
@@vitoriacaroline2354 Chora mais, o Lula roubou as eleições
Exactly, they should mention Moro in this video
american media always "forgetting" to point out that the judge that emprisioned Lula was later working in bolsonaro's government
Conveniently forgeting the US government put money on in too
Yes, the video implies corruption on Lula by showing that he was arrested, but the fact that the process and the trial was staged and prosecution was following the judge's orders, it not mentioned. On top of it, the judge became Justice minister of Bolsonaro's presidency.
The story of the judge deserves a video on itself.
Vox makes videos that are easy to digest by not going really in depth on the subject at hand. Thankfully the Car Wash operation and its aftermath were widely covered at the time by international news, so I’m aware that a few important details were left out (Dilma wasn’t actually implicated in bribes, the Congress applied a chokehold to her government, the party with the highest amount of members involved in the so-called Petrolao was the PP, which was ironically Bolsonaro’s previous party, etc). 9 minutes is not enough to understand the Brazilian saga of 2002-2022, so I didn’t expect a full coverage, but for the uninformed viewer, this could affect its understanding of the whole story, yes.
still doesn't change the fact that Lula is corrupt man
Worth mentioning that the minister of the Supreme Court who cancelled lula’s long list of crimes was appointed by Lula himself! As for former judge Moro having become a minister of Justice in Bolsonaro’s team is very normal! Poor narrative of losers!
Fun fact: In Portuguese, José is pronounced José, not Hosé
oh really? i didnt know josé was pronounced josé
It's better to say "José" with the same J as in "job" when referring to Brazilian names
English speakers might be able to imitate the sound properly if they spell out "zh". In IPA it's written as /ʒ/ and called a voiced alveolar approximant if I'm remembering correctly.
(Edit: It's actually called a voiced alveolar fricative)
why is it different compared to Spanish?
@@elliotw.888 In Castellano (Spanish from Spain) also it is pronounced as José. It's in south American were they pronounce it as Hosé
To the people that will comment after me, we don't speak Brazilian, we ARE Brazilians and we speak Portuguese.
neymar
fr, what do they think? in their logic, do americans speak american or united states? lol
@@shi6ri no one’s saying this though, your getting mad over nothing
Yeah. BRAZILIAN Portuguese. So in a way you still speak Brazilian and not the original Portuguese.
Trust me I know that but some people don’t
odd how vox didnt mentioned how lula got out of jail
No Brasil temos 3 poderes. Um deles o Judiciário em específico o STF onde é a corte máxima, soltaram ele passando por cima da constituição. Curiosidade: quem em espefico soltou ele foi quem o próprio Lula indicou na época do seu mandato a vaga na cadeira do STF. Estamos começando a passar problemas de censura.
Because the judgment was considered partial even by the UN
neither who put him there
@@JoaoVictor-ub5cy Interesting how you didn’t mention that the judges during his case was one of Bolsonaro’s allies
even we brazilian are not totally sure about that, everyone that you ask will give you a different explanation or speculation
there is a mistake in the video. Dilma was never charged for anything related to Lava Jato.
Exactly, Dilma was never charged with anything regarding corruption. She was removed due to a palamentary coup.
yes, Vox seems to imply it Dilma Rouseff "fell" because she was caught in a corruption scandal. wrong.
Dilma is the most goody two-shoes politician to a fault, one of the reasons she was hated in congress, she wouldn't "play ball".
she was coup'ed in an Impeachment for manipulating the appearance of the budget, an election-time maneuver use by all recent brazilian presidents before her AND after her.
the documentary "The Edge of Democracy" by Petra Costa is beautiful and follows this process well.
@@bartomalatesta5652 She was removed because in 2014 the people took the streets protesting for her impeachment. It wasn`t a coup because that is what the people protested for. All the government did was give the people what they wanted.
@@bartomalatesta5652 chora petista
Indeed, Dilma was impeached because she didn't bend to what we call "centrão" (or the big centre... a bunch of smaller, very corrupt political parties that sway accordingly with the party in power). Even her vice-president (a participant in the "centrão" himself) actually had a part in the coup d'etat against her.
Bolsa Família was not a new program. Lula created just the new name. The program was created by the former president Fernando Henrique Cardoso, and it was called Bolsa Escola.
eles tem que falar a verdade
fazer um vídeo que contem tanta desinformação não é certo
além de que Lula é a favor da ditadura e financiou Cuba e Venezuela
MAIS OU MENOS. Na verdade Lula uniu 4 dos programas de FHC e deu um nome.
But the bolsa familia was created in 2003, a year after Lula was elected president
The fact that this video does not highlight what actually happened with Lula's prosecution and the bogus nature of the charges is really pretty terrible.
Terrible journalism for ya
Delusional
Vox and other american channels tend to fail at explaining Latam politics. They're just witnesses of the rest of the world.
Whats pretty terrible is when people use that prosecution example to excuse Lula's corruption
Very well observed.
A correction: Rouseff was never included in the corruption from Petrobras (The oil state company) as said on the video (not my opinion, you can search for all juridical sources). Her economic plan was not good and trying to reduce the corruption mainly from the center/right parties, she creates issues with the parliament that, with the wealthy people, forced her government to an end. The police operation that has found that massive corruption was dried after she left the power, as an extra evidence of what really happened.
Minister for Energy and Petrobras CEO.
She was involved in Petrolao, 100%.
@@balham456 yeah if only they had the evidence to be as confident as your comment is
Again, no juridical sources.
Dilma was on the of the board of directors of Petrobras 2003-2010, right when Lavajato picked up steam in 2004.
Dilma was very close to Dirceu during the time of Mensalao.
Dilma was chair of the board at Petrobras at the height of Mensalao and when the dutch contractor SBM was found to be paying bribes to Petrobras personnel and to her Workers Party.
@@Formed123 all of that is circumstantial and no actual evidence of corruption was ever brought up against dilma which is evident in the fact that they werent able to take away her electability after her controversial impeachment
You forgot to mention US’s involvement in Bolsonaro’s election. He had the same campaign manager as Trump. And let’s not forget US’s role in dissolving BRIC, as this coalition was successful and very competitive in the global economy.
Steve Banon?
"Forgot" haha
realmente, tanto que nenhum dos 2 presidenciáveis disse que quebraria o Brasil de seu papel no BRICS
BRICS still exists
@@adamorowski3902 yes
You can't discount the involvement of Cambridge Analytica in bringing Bolsonaro to power.
As well as the White House using NSA, CIA, FBI since 2013 to help brazilian right wing to overthrow the former president Dilma Roussef with a coup (and also spy Brazil state oil company Petrobras) jointly with brazilian Federal Prosecutor to perform lawfare against Lula and his party preventing him to run for presidency in 2018
@@MarcosPaulo-xs5em pesquisas aos quais foram mostradas todo santo dia dando uma enorme vantagem pra lulinha para os indecisos preferissem votar nele achando que ele venceria
????
huh
Cambridge Analytica damaged a lot of democracies around the world. In the Philippines, it helped elect a dictator's son to the presidency.
As an American, I'm so used to seeing left as blue and right as red that this is tripping me up. Yes, I know it used to be flipped in the US as well.
In most of the world the left is red
@@rkeogh3467 I'm aware. We used to be red for left as well becuase it was associated with communism. I'm pretty sure it changed becuase of the Reagan election it was easier to have red for Reagan.
it is a very common color layout. I think of it as red being the banner of the workers who wish to distribute wealth and power and blue being the banner of the conservatives who wish to primarily maintain their economy, society and wealth as they believe it should be.
It wasn't flipped in the US. It was right, and then got flipped to what u have now. Across the world red is the color of the left and socialism
I always associate red with left and blue with right
05:16 wasn't just a recession, it was literally the BIGGEST recession on Brazil TO THIS DAY(yes, bigger than covid)
Not true, COVID retracted the economy in 4.7% as 2014 crisis causes a retraction of 3.5%. Brazil got out of the list of 10 biggest economies in the beggining of 2021
@@gabrielsiqueira4384 you’re the trumpist from the tropics and will spread misinformation just for the sake of it
They also acted like the recession reason was because of the commoditys price fall, in reality it was the fact that in Lula goverment he suported many polices, specially ignoring the budget celling. Their police kept themself working because of the comodity surplus but it was a ticking time bomb and they just ignored it.
The anoying part is that since it happened after Lula goverment, in his debates he just throws is positives numbers since the negatives came after, and even looking at the growth during his time, if you compare it with the region (South America) and countrys in a similiar economic situation ( emergent economus - BRICKS) youll see his economic group was just staying on track. This also includes poverty assistence sonce there was a global tendency of lesser poverty in that time
A simple google search shows that this is false, the 80s had the largest economic recession (not to mention the poverty rates were much larger than in the 2010s).
@@gabrielsiqueira4384 By a couple of years, not almost a decade. 2023 its the year the economy gets back to what it was pre Dilma! That's how bad that recession was, don't try to defend a CRISIS! Nothing about it was good!
Dear Vox,
Can you make a video like this on how Sri Lanka was bankrupted. Actually my country had a long history of corruption, abuse and embezzlement but a one political family called Rajapaksa regime intensified all those bad things and now we experienced a massive and severe decline in everything. So please focus on this matter as well.
Vice did a video on it called "How A Family Allegedly "Ruined" Sri Lanka's Economy | The Big Steal" but yeah I would also like to see Vox's version
Cold fusion made a video about Sri Lanka. It's a great video. Go watch it.
@@fullmetaltheorist but I wanna see a video on Vox too.
@@tinaandro1178 Vox story telling is unique and creative. And also it has a larger audience. In that sense, we can permeate awareness of our country's situation.
@@asankajayaweera7212 I also like their creativity
I (as brazilian) find it very interesting when I see something like this video in the internet. It's hard to see foreign people talking about your country and its' political debate, yet here I am. Thanks for bringing such an interesting video on the topic and I hope more people watch it and understand a little bit more about foreign countries politics.
Pena que tem uma dúzia de falhas de explicação e falta de citação de informações extremamente relevantes para a compreensão dessa situação, por exemplo sobre as condenações de Lula e da maioria de seus chefes de governo e trazendo comentários bastante tendenciosos também a respeito de Bolsonaro.
@@jfc22 Perdeu mane
It's actually not the hard, I live in The Netherlands and there was a lot of coverage on the news on the election day and the following. On the first turn I was in portugal and that was all that was being talked about on the news and even by people at the beach lol, but I guess for portugal its not so surprising
same here. Although its sad to see how politics in Brazil turned into a very hateful thing, with almost no facts, just supersticions that are created to put more heat into people's hatred.
foda que pronunciam os nomes como se nos fossemos falantes de espanhol por exemplo jose ela disse rose
no mention of sergio moro?
I don't think this audience wants to see a left-winger as a criminal... Just a case of "read the room, bro"
@@larl07 , Perhaps you should have said: "I don't think this audience wants to see a far-right-winger as a criminal. Or not 🤔 This audience does want to see a far-right-winger in jail. 🤭
@@sudi_cloud nah i meant that this video is not about how Lula is a criminal. That's why Moro is not mentioned, this audience is one which tends to want to root for the left winger, regardless of the ~18 billion returned from his corruption schemes.
@@larl07 to accuse someone of a crime you need proof beyond a PowerPoint presentation. To say "alleged" corruption and leave it at that without mentioning Sergio Moro does not tell the whole story. By the way, in which of Lula's secret Swiss Bank accounts were these 18 billion you mention stashed away?
Perhaps it was too divisive. But Sergio Moro and his relationship with Bolsonaro should not be ignored.
I'm impressed of how things can be oversimplified..
true but i cant find better material about the brazilian election
wait to see the tiktok version. lol
@@readisgooddewaterkant7890 "thejuicemedia" covered the current Government pretty well. "The edge of democracy" is a documentary about the Dilma situation that was nominated for the Oscar
@@Dani_el_Duck yeah the left-wing channel just to clarify
@@tuthures5824 Bozo is destroying the biggest forest on earth, just to clarify
I currently live in Brazil and it's been a year. I just want to say a big thank you for explaining this whole election in the simplest way ever. I am so grateful. Now i can add to my research and educate my subscribers. Thank you
While this is a good starting point for understanding Brazil's political situation, I would recommend doing further research on some of the topics that were only lightly touched on, particularly Lula's arrest and Dilma's impeachment. Both are much more complex than the video makes them seem. I would recommend the Oscar-nominated documentary Edge of Democracy on Netflix to understand the political climate during Dilma's impeachment trial. It's from the POV of someone who was against her impeachment (as a great many Brazilians were) but it covers the issues many of us had with the way this trial was conducted, as well as showing the side of this period that much of the foreign press pays little attention to.
@@cyberpunkqueen1525 wow thank you very much for this insight. I would watch that show too . Thank you so much
Educate with lies? That’s indoctrination
@@cyberpunkqueen1525 Many were against? lol Oh yes because we, Brazilians, were so happy about the worst economic crisis in the history of our country under Dilma. I really miss those times.
+@@wuraolasdiary Your American just moved to Brazil?
just a little note. in portugues unlike spanish the name jose is actually pronounced jo-ze instead of ho-se
Did you know that the USA invented the airplane and not Brazil?
@@MamacitaBonita Santos Dummont didnt need a slingshot kekw
@@MamacitaBonita catapulta não voa
@@pedrosabino8899 sua mãe voa muito bem!!!
@@MamacitaBonita obrigado! Ela é uma ótima piloto de helicóptero!!
I find it funny that these international media channels don't say a word about The Intercept's "Vaza Jato" and its role on Lula's freedom.
So, they show as if Lula was a super clean opposition to Bolsonaro, which is clearly a lie, he is corrupt.
Please explain
@@ridethelighting83 The Intercept found irrefutable proof that Moro, the judge that convicted Lula and was later appointed as a Minister by Bolsonaro himself, was instructing prosecutors to find whatever way possible to frame Lula. No material evidence was ever found to prove Lula's personal involvement with any corruption scandal. Eventually, his convictions were overturned due to lack of evidence and illegal practices by judge Moro during the trials.
@@ridethelighting83 Basically, leaked Telegram chats between the judge (Sergio Moro, who later became Bolsonaro's Minister of Justice) and the attorneys that convicted Lula showed that it was not a fair judgement, and the intention was to get him arrested all the time, no matter if the evidence was inconclusive.
Makes you wonder, doesn’t it? Or at least it should.
Yeah, I wouldn't expect a English language vehicle to pick up on the nuances about the matter. Like how the reason to why the process that led to Lula's prison was judged by someone that later admitted to have a personal vendetta against Lula and actually served as Justice Minister for Bolsonaro. This man was Sérgio Moro, who late on Bolsonaro's time in charge left the government claiming he did everything Bolsonaro asked him so he could protect Bolsonaro's criminal sons, but also supported Bolsonaro in his campaign and got elected as senator.
Another fun fact: Sérgio Moro had meetings with the CIA and United Started Defense department. Private meetings. As a member of Brazilian government. After leaving Bolsonaro's government, he went on to work in companies that had their entire business around rescuing the Brazilian companies Sérgio Moro helped to destroy. Pretty convenient, right?
Anyone can check this up online.
Another massive mistake here is to say that Dilma herself was involved in any corruption scheme around Petrobras or, even worse, that was the reason she got taken out from office. She wasn't and her impeachment was a literal coup, where she got accused of practices Bolsonaro and many others would do before and after her and never got the same judgment. Also, another tip to the fraudulent backbone of it all: one of the legal consequences of a impeachment in Brazil is the loss of political rights, but Dilma didn't lost hers, in a unbelievable demonstration that they just needed her out, not necessarily being concerned about the law.
Funny you only talk about Sergio Moro (who later was running against Bolsonaro) but forget to mention the other 9 judges who not only condemned Lula, but INCREASED his imprisonment period after Sergio Moro
@@VitorHugoP Moro's never run against Bolsonaro. He was actually with Bolsonaro Team in the the 2nd round, even though he pointed that Bolsonaro was making efforts for obstruction of justice. It doesn't matter that Lula was convicted of corruption by the the Court. The process itself was null for 2 fundamental reasons: it shouldn't be prosecuted in Paraná and because Moro was promised a chair in the Supreme Court, so he worked with the prosecuters to make Lula go to jail and Bolsonaro could win the 2018 election.
Thanks for your video. Small correction: in portuguese "j" is pronounced more like in english than in spanish. José Alencar
I don't know which one to pick, It pronounce H Hose Alencar or Y Yose Alencar
@@zvlfn none of them actually hahaha, It's more like J in words like joker or jackson
@@zvlfn @waterbonkie is right. The letter J in portuguese always has the same sound as "conclusion", "pleasure", "unusual" (/ʒ/ phoneme).
Examples: "José Alencar", "Lava-jato" (Car Wash Operation), "janela" (window), "jogo" (game), "coruja" (owl).
It's a bit hard for us brazillians because we don't have the J sound in portuguese - like in "jazz", "job", "age", "edge" or "general" (/dʒ/ phoneme), so when we say "Jackson" it's common to use /ʒ/ phoneme instead of the /dʒ/ phoneme, because it's a new sound for us.
@@thon6760 we do have the dzh sound. Especially in words such as "Jonathan" (sometimes spelled Diônatan), or any other words with "di" in many dialects.
Edit: also in borrowed words such as the ones you've listed. It's already a pretty common sound in our pronunciation of "jazz" and "job"
@@zvlfn none of the options are right. It's actually pronounced "JOE zé"
Americans really don't understand Brazil politics
They don't understand A LOT of things ...
What did you expect ? They are americans.
You didnt come close to explaining Lula
No one seems to know how to pronounce "Jose" the Portuguese way
yeah because the J is very different in the languages they know, spanish speak like "Hosé", sometimes "Yosé", and english speak with a "d" sound at the beginning.
I think the better way to teach some english speaker to pronounce it correctly is to tell them to speak Joseph, but without the D sound and the "ph", and entone the "e"
@@paulimriss You can also go after words that do the portuguese "j" sound in English, like Fusion (the s) or vision (again, the s) or seizure (the z)
edit: or tell them it's the french "j", that would work too, if they know some french
7:30 Which country's GDP didn't go down in 2020??
As a brazilian i can talk Lula was acused of being involved in numerous corruption scandals (more than 50). he was released from jail because the STF (as a supreme Court in the US) didn't judge him because he had more than 70 years old, and also because the STF changed its interpretation of improsenment during the second instancy.
Lula banned X and Telegram, brazil have seemed to be dictatorship since lula elected
It is striking that Brazil, socioeconomically, is in such a similar situation as the US.
From a political standpoint, Poland is actually a near-perfect mirror reflection of the US, as there are only 2 main political parties: far-right nationalist and Christian-conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party, and the centrist Civic Platform (PO), with no true left-wing party.
You really can't compare the economy of a country with a GDP per capita under $7000 to the US. It's not even close n
I'm brazilian. We're the poor cousin. But we're all f**ked up
That is a big lie
the similarity was in foreign intervention (CCP-WEF) with sponsored machine voting tabulation
I don't get why English-speakers pronounce José (when the name is, clearly, supposed to be in Portuguese) as they do in Spanish. Just pronounce the 'J' as you would in the name James or Joseph.
It's a common mistake that they assume J in Portuguese is pronounced the same as it is in Spanish.
And actually, it's pronounce like zh rather than English J.
Or, rather, pronounce it the correct way (phoneme /ʒ/, think the French J).
But yeah, between mistakenly pronouncing it like in Spanish and doing it in English, the latter is the better. There's already enough people that think we just speak Spanish like everybody else in the region.
@@giannixx it'd be close enough and, more importantly, not sound Spanish.
It's not English speakers so much as US Americans... British commonly prounce the hard J because they are either lazy/uncultured or due to their closer ties to Portugal where they have a hundred years old alliance, whereas Americans are very closely tied to Latin America in trade and culture and a large minority speaks Spanish fluently.
it’s not that deep man. relax
You know Vox don't have the slightest idea about what they are talking when they can't even pronounce the name of the guy correctly.
Congrats.
Yea yea, and we still spell "anime" errado e idai
Strange how political developments in Brazil mirror those in South Africa
probaly a trend in later stage developing countries & regarding bolsonaro particularly because far-right ressurgences are a common phenomenon in a left-leaning government's crisis
Probably by US influence in both countries
Perhaps because Brazil is in South America??
@@fgsaramago South Africa and South America are two different places bruv
@@fgsaramago average american geography skills:
The video has some flaws here and there, but I like to see international interest onto Brazil, thanks for the video ✌🏻✌🏻
no
just no , bolsominiooon
Unfortunately i dont think foreigners really care
Bolsonaro never ever tried any move against the media and the brazilian supreme court is basically favoring candidates in election, its just so bizarre... You might think that i'm some sort of radical, but let me tell you something:
After the election a supreme court judge( the one who judged the election rules) went to a party with Lula and his lawyer to dance samba, can you believe this? its just so ridiculous... The same judge that New York Times said it was crossing the line...
que história mais mal contada, me faz pensar muito sobre todos os outros videos internacionais que vocês produzem
parece que só mostra o que convem
Anos de política resumidos em 10 minutos deixam o vídeo faltando MUITOS pedaços fundamentais, tanto pra defender/acusar o Lula quanto pra evidenciar problemas do Bolsonaro. Porém concordo q tá raso demais
There is so many wrong information about Bolsonaro's government in this video.
Tá, agora façam um documentário falando a verdade
O mundo real não é como dizem no grupo da família no zape zape. Ou você abre o olho para a verdade ou vai para a porta de um quartel chorar e virar meme.
Its been hard to be brazilian these days...
I am Brazilian, it's true
@@laurojr.7240 I support Lula Because I know that he has more honor in him than bolsanoro So if you have any Brazilian friends please encourage them to vote for Lula because the deforestation you’re experiencing just can’t continue it needs to stop And in case you’re wondering why deforestation served under his presidency
Not just Brazil, it's happening all over the world.
@@jamessparkman6604 The only bad thing about Lula was that he stole billions, apart from the robbery he did a lot of good things, especially for the poor public.
@@FelipeSilva-zr6wd Haven’t you ever heard of redemption
basically we are seeing a video of a person with bad administration being like this in his 2 terms being below average per administration
he stole billions of BRL and his government only had low inflation because of commodity valuations the whole world was like that
he wants to control social networks in Brazil too
Lula was released from prison without being cleared
I am Brazilian
bolsonarista encontrado
@@menash000 oshi
@@menash000 sou um Investidor e entendo meios de economia e política diferentemente de vários vitimistas sem base de argumentos sobre o meio de política e economia
This video is very poor made. And it is skewed!! Im Brazillian, and it is really sad whats happening here. And what is really concerning is that most part of the media, local media and international media, is contributing to to the loss of freedom of the brazillian people.
It's hard to find so many lies together in such a short time.
1:25 vs 6:47 // funny how vox explains how Lula cam from the 'left' whilst, on the same graph-scale, she uses the term 'far right' when introducing Bolsonaro.
These are micro-strategies the media uses to smear its opposite.
Nowadays most people realise these tactics, but I'm sure a lot of people didn't even notice this detail.
1:25 vs 6:47 if you want to check it out.
Vox is just as the uol: don't trust in it. I know this channel since 2020 and boy: it's dishonest and pretty left wing and will use any dishonest statistics and etc.
Mas não é meio que verdade? Se lula fosse um candidato de extrema esquerda, ele não dialogaria com figuras de direita como Alckmin ou liberais como a tebet. Ja Bolsonaro simplesmente não dialoga com a esquerda, e agora nem mesmo com candidatos de centro-direita. Fora a semelhança de sua filosofia com outros governos de extrema direita.
Former president Dilma was never implicated in the Petrobras scandal... But, yes, her popularity sunk even more because of it.
RIP Brasil. Doomed to misery and corrupt populists...
But the media says he’s an innocent flower condemned unfairly!!!! Ohhhhhhh😢😂
@@napi1650media=fake news
A politician convicted of corruption should not be at all allowed to run again
🇧🇷💙💚👏👏👏👏👏
So... idk if you've heard about it... but his convictions were annulled 🤪btw, he's been proven innocent in all recent verdicts
I'm very worried about the future of Brazil and their people after this election. Stay safe y'all love from the United States 🇺🇲❤️🇧🇷
???
Me leva pra morar aí ?
Agree, thank U. Brazil will never become a well function society, compared to US. Our politician only cares about themselves and their people, inequality it's un rise not just between people of difference background but also on greedy political view for the middel-class's and upper class and etc...
is going to have a war betwen brasil china russia... and europe end usa
I'm Brazilian, and I can say, not fearing to be wrong that I neither support nor vote on Lula. He was arrested due to corruption, condemned in all 3 instances of the Brazilian judiciary. He shouldn't be allowed to be electable. Plus, he defend more power to State, in terms of economy. He is against privatization. Basically, for him, everything should be ruled and monitored by the government, even midia. That's why I never supported and will never support him.
Congratulations President Lula and you did it again cheers 🥂 love from US.
Thnaks
Are you anti-capitalist?
@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 brasil needs to learn the hard way.
Small correction: Brazilian J is not pronounced like Spanish. For "José", think Zhozé, not Hozé.
This is just an approximation due to the different phonetic inventories, but it's J as the S in "measure" or the Z in "seizure" (the same as French J), the O is closed as in "potencial", the S is pronounced like a Z, and the É is open somewhat like the A in "at".
The more precise description is [ʒo.'zɛ], but many Brazilians reduce the first vowel to [u] or [ʊ] because it's unstressed, so many natives, including me, will actually say [ʒu.'zɛ].
Also, for the surname "Alencar", there are two R sounds in Brazilian Portuguese, /ɾ/ (alveolar tap, like T in "better" or "water" in some dialects) and /x/ (voiceless velar fricative, like Scottish "loch"), this one is the tap. In standard Brazilian Portuguese, the R is never like in English "red" or "rose".
WILL BE THE CHOOSE ONE NOT BY THE THE BRAZILIAN PEOPLE ,,,, BUT BY THE TSE/STF=BRAZILIAN SUPREME COURT ON LULA' SIDE!!!!!
@@mariablanc6354 lfmao
They roll their rs in Sao Paulo, though. It's the way their dialect is.
most English speakers don't roll their R's, you mean Spanish
I forget that Brazil was colonized by Portugal, not Spain.
people in brazil still waiting for their picanha 🤣
What about “Vazajato”!? A super important milestone in this timeline.
This scene in 2:43 is INCONCEIVABLE nowadays.
Nossa cala a boca
Cara, eu nunca vi um carro caro com a bandeira do lula. E não é só pelo medo
@@ragdoll1666 top 10 argumentos
I am pretty sure that in Português Jose isn’t pronounced as [H]ose in Spanish
C'mon Lula! Solidarity from Ireland 🇮🇪
My dear country.. forever stuck in this poverty loop :(
All of Latin America history, since independence.
GANHAMOS!!!! A Democracia venceu!
?????? A democracia ia acontecer de qlqr forma de um dos lados, acho q n é mt democrático dizer q um sistema de eleição venceu só pq seu lado venceu e a outra metade do país não pq n concorda com seus ideais.
@@johndraper4211 deixa eu ver se entendi, um dos dois queria aumentar o numero de ministros no supremo pra ter maioria, aparelhou a PF pra não ser investigado e fazia apologia a ditadura no país desde a época de Deputado, mas os dois eram igualmente democratas?
@@onorioneto3798 Ter uma maioria no supremo não quer dizer literalmente nada, já que não garante nem sequer alguma vitória em um julgamento ou um apoio, se fosse assim, o PT já possuía desde muito tempo uma maioria avassaladora no supremo, logo, isso não quer dizer se tratar de um regime antidemocrático, já que o próprio Lula possuía grande parte do supremo e foi eleito por um grande tempo repetidamente. Sobre a PF, sinceramente, não deu a entender bem o que quis dizer, mas se tu se referiu sobre indicar um superintendente da PF, isso é literalmente uma atribuição de todo presidente a ser eleito no país.
Sobre a ditadura n tenho mt oq falar msm, já que não sou muito apegado ao tema da ditadura militar, mas ao menos sei que defender é uma coisa e fazer apologia é outra. Tal coisa que o PT já fez apologia a ditaduras socialistas/"comunistas" na América, como no caso da Venezuela e de Cuba(tirando a ditadura chinesa), mas claro, isso não é antidemocrático, é apenas apoiar um bando de ditaduras com uma apegada de sua ideologia. Então não, acho que não foi antidemocrático por parte da metade de seu país apenas por estar de um lado oposto e concordar com ideais diferentes, lembrando que passamos 4 anos e por estarmos em um regime democrático não deu poder algum a um presidente(que sinceramente, não possui tanto poder quanto aparenta), tanto que a mídia junto de outros criticaram ele durante todo seu governo sem medo algum e das formas mais diversas e até mesmo estúpidas possíveis, e ainda não vejo um enorme cartaz do "glorioso líder Bolsonaro" em qualquer lugar político como uma figura suprema, "metade" do país destestando-o, "metade" do país apoiando-o/idolantrando-o e o resto simplesmente não apoiando ninguém e indo na leva.
@@johndraper4211 beleza cara, já entendi que vc ta se esforçando muito pra não ver nada, fica a vontade ai no seu mundinho
Tu literalmente tá acusando o cara do que cê faz/fez/tá fazendo HAHAHAHAHA
Ah if you guys only knew what is really happening here in Brazil...
Yes. I was looking for this comment. God bless Brazil.
What's happening? Please inform me.
@@Yeen_ If you really want to know, you're going to need time. I recommend the documentary "Teatro das Tesouras" (theather of scisors in english) by Brasil Paralelo, I don't know if it's available in your country.
@@MrRobertofusion 😥
You forgot to talk about Moro participation in Lula's prinsion. Them he became Bolsonaro's minister.
Eu nunca vi tanta bobeira na minha vida
Missing Michael Brooks… wish he was here to see this.
That's exactly what I thought when I first opened this video. Left is Best!
So many things he could have laughed at that we missed out on
Makes me mad he had to pass away (rest in peace) while all the other bigots he regularly schooled are running around...
For real!
Left is best!
Good video, but you guys really took a side there. It would be better mentioning the whole 230 billion reais cut off from the healthcare investments, the Petrolão and Mensalão. I hope Brazil will see the truth, and reelect our great president.
They simply rolled back the court case, he was not absolved of anything,
exactly
This video does not translate the reality. Search another one
Fun fact: The Bolsa Família program gave not the families all this money, it was a pretty low ammount, actually.
You guys really oversimplified SEVERAL points in this video.
Brazillians were blissful when Lula was arrested. We had hope that widespread impunity for politicians was finally coming to an end, after we manged to arrest a former president. But that joy was short-lived, when a supreme court judge apointed by Lula nulified his conviction.
This comment has aged pretty well. All you see and hear about Alexandre de Moraes nowadays is his utter abuse of power
Correction: brazil did not grow because of Lula, but in spite of him, because of the commodities boom (which he took little advantage of). With that he made assistance measures, just look at Dilma. As you said, as soon as the sale of commodities decreased, that chaos of her government came.
Indeed
Como disse a Dilma, ela era uma mulher dura em uma mesa cheia de homens fofos e carinhosos. Falar da Dilma com essa visão, é uma visão rasa do que realmente aconteceu.
I'm here to remind you that Lula wasn't deemed innocent, his case was only anulled by the Supreme Court
So? This means he is innocent until proven guilty.
Não, não é, aprenda a diferença entre nulidade processual e mérito.
@@pauloemilio9807 ces tem que aprender a diferenciar ladrão de candidato a presidência
This video has me googling "who owns Vox"
cuz you're braindead
Exactly!! 😂
The whole world was affected by Covid. Bolsonaro's government provided 600 BRL per month of support for poor people, it enable the country to reduce its poverty index. The violence in Brazil decreased by more than 20% in the right-wing government. They also finished building a bridge to take water to the Northeast - a work that PT's government hadn't finished.
The Republic of Brazil is doomed to failure. I think that the words of the writer Erça de Queiroz will one day come true. "Brazil is Empire, it will be Republic and then it will be Empire again."
Deus te ouça! Já deu essa republiqueta nojenta...
Strange how Vox said that Bolsonaro's popularity never exceeded 40% but his demonstrations in the Paulista avenue exceeded 1 million people
That's less than 1% of registered voters in brazil.
Dear USA,
Please stay out of our politics.
Sincerely,
People of Brazil
why did you put this woman pronouncing the names as if they were in spanish?? we don't speak spanish, it's not "hosé", it's "JHOsé", if you're gonna go the extra mile to try and sound respectful at least go all the way, jesus
The video is not for us, it's for then.
We spell anime wrong? No, it just our definition of the word here in Brazil and the others country have their own definition and spelling
you people have to stop giving brazilian names spanish pronunciations. Specially talking about recent history.
WINNING AN ELECTION, DOESNT MEAN GAINING THE PEOPLE'S RESPECT!!!
It means gaining the respect of the majority, and that's all that matters. It's called democracy 😊
@@joaorichter9970 but yeah, the Picanha is worth it, surely!!!!!
@sunrise not defending Sir Bolsonaro at all, didn't even mention it but surely the teenager minion will blindedly follow his 9-fingered dictator (until he has to commit cannibalism)
your argument against literally all i've presented: "stahp trying!:("
@@joaorichter9970 2 millions of vote of difference is not majority, and its proven that there was buying of votes
@@tiagosousa2378 it is. Would you mind reading the definition of "majority" in the dictionary please? And you are right, there was buying of votes, for bolsonaro! Many business owners payed their employees (or otherwise just threatened them of being fired) to vote for bolsonaro, let alone the PRF operations to try and stop as many buses as they could full of northeastern low income people, to stop them from voting and lower the amount of votes Lula would get. All in all, Bolsonaro used everything in his power to win the election, and still lost. Ouch!
Glenn Greenwald deserves a huge shout out for documenting how Lula’s prosecution was corrupt, ultimately leading to his being freed. Lula would not have won, but for Glenn Greenwald’s tireless journalism.
Would u praise Glenn also for his saying about Alexandre de Moraes hunting on conserrvatives here in Brazil?
Sergio moro could have been parcial, but what about the other judges at even further instances?
@@tiagosousa2378 They "forget" that Lula was convicted by more than 8 ppl
@@ZUPYNinGAME tu quoque
Scroll down for brazilians who started voting this year trying to - either condem or praise Lula - even though their political education is zero.
True that lol
He just won
Which means Brazil will be losing money
@@USandGlobal yep
@@USandGlobal *top half of brazil
THANK GOD 🥺❤️🥺❤️🥺❤️
@@llluminatixx7 noup, means that more money will be invested in poor people
The video is perfect to state That Lula was released from prison by the Supreme Court (that he indicated by the time he was president). He was never considered innocent in any of his trials considered guilty by over 10 judges and 3 different stances.
Very superficial but I understood the premisse here
I'm Brazilian, and I can say that ex-prisoner Lula was one of the worst things that ever happened to Brazil.
Agreed
Good video, but It would be better if it had clarified that: "The STF did not acquit the defendant Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. He did not deal with the merit of the conviction. It was not stated at any time that the defendant is innocent, but it was considered that it was not up to the Federal Court of Paraná to judge him in those specific cases," says Gamboa in the petition that insists that Lula and his companies, targets of Lava-Jato, settle accounts with the Treasury. He isn't considered innocent, that's one of the reasons why the current election is so problematic. Lula is not the "less worse" guy. The video gave the idea he was considered innocent, which is not the case. He was charged in almost all the accusations in Parana, but since the judgment was transported to Brasilia, the case has been restarted and declared void because the evidence produced and the processes were considered compromised, hence the annulment of them by the Supreme Court. For this reason, it is not technically correct to say that Lula was acquitted or acquitted in these specific cases, since there was no valid trial.
Cases declared void, processes considered compromised...which means he is innocent.
@@mattcrvg Which means they couldn't prove officially his innocence nor guilt. He was actually being considered guilty in most of them, but since all the cases had to move to the jurisdiction no another state, it was considered that the whole investigation would need to be completely restarted and by then, the material would be already too "contaminated". He's NOT innocent. In reality it's like he didn't even respond to those crimes, since they weren't finished investigated. He is just not considered guilty by justice, because he wasn't even judged by that. The investigation hadn't been complete. And to consider him more inclined to be guilty comes to the fact money was found. An amound of money he wouldn't have if it wasn't from corruption. He wasn't accused of just one case of corruption, he went to jail for some of them, the reason why he couldn't run for the election of 2018. What happened is that the rest of the cases he was being accused couldn't be completely investigated. But he is NOT innocent.
@@nahrampasso2261 Innocent until proven guilty. If the cases where he was considered guilty were void, he is innocent. Simple as that.
@@nahrampasso2261 Spare the mental gymnastics, there’s a universal principle called presumption of innocence. Lula may have not received an acquittal veredict but he returned to his innocent status merely by not being proven guilty, as any other citizen would be.
@@K4lamazu I know that. But would you have the trust to elect someone who was considered "innocent" for not being investigated properly in these conditions to be the president of your country? Why not elect other? And when I say other I'm not even talking about Bolsonaro, any other.
this video doesn't even touch the peak of brazilian political iceberg. there's a lot of reasons why brazilian far-right became so strong.
Why not say the truth?
It's strange how almost every part of the word had an major, Overton-Window shift to the far right in the 2010s -- a trend that has managed to persist into the 2020s
This is likely due to the 2008 recession, people saw that the current governments weren't able to avoid it so they wanted a change in power.
There was huge global shift in politics during the aftermath.
When the public go from living comfortably to to the opposite they want change quickly and usually lean towards more extreme political views with strong voices & opinions.
The reason for that is Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon. They discovered how to successfully exploit social media and the internet by using big data and targeted campaigns to steer people's political views and sentiments.
Bolsonaro isn't "Far" right. He is just a mediocre and poorly-prepared conservative politician.
The label "Far Right" was just a media effort (yes, media in Brazil is basically ran by one big company and few satellite outlets mimic it) to make that guy look extreme and radical, but it is far, far, far from reallity
This video is completely wrong, Roussef was never guilty of any accusation and so was Lula, that proved his innocence even on ONU. Lula was accused of owning a cheap appartment and a terrain, that both did not belong to him. For Christ sake, our great media in Brazil is the same from dictatorship times, it means they don't care for the Brazilian people's interests, but the US', who was to blame for the operation Condor and also the fall of Roussef (NSA documents point to Dilma Rousseff as a target of espionage, and also CIA was getting involved in the car wash operation).
Amazing video and very interesting, as a Brazilian I'm grateful to see content about our country.
WILL BE THE CHOOSE ONE NOT BY THE THE BRAZILIAN PEOPLE ,,,, BUT BY THE TSE/STF=BRAZILIAN SUPREME COURT ON LULA' SIDE!!!!!
@@mariablanc6354 Joel Santana? É você?
@@paulobaceIar ri demais hahahaha
@@paulobaceIar não basta passar vergonha em português, o gado gosta de passar vergonha em inglês também. É a burrice dos minions à mostra pro resto do mundo.
In Portuguese, "J" doesn't sound like "R" as in Spanish, it sounds more like "G". Therefore, "José" sounds like "Joseph".
You knew what they meant, right?
How’s your Korean?
See what I mean?
@@martinc.720 the R pronunciation belongs to the spanish language, and, contrary to what some ignorant people out there, specially in the U.S., might think, we DON'T speak spanish. See what I mean?
@@martinc.720 But is the video about Korea?
See what I mean?
@@martinc.720 no, I do not see what you mean. Its one thing to pronounce things as you would in your language, its another to pronounce them as you would in a different foreign language. Its by definition deliberate
you forgot to say that the whole prision/impeachment thing was ilegal
no it was not
Faz o L!
De ladrão
de Larápio ou de Laranja?
@@PedroRocks15 de Lenda
@@EtzuBrute do crime
@@PedroRocks15 realmente ele é criminoso ó até o meu coração ele roubou
Lula is back!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
Lula presidente e o Brasil hexacampeão! ♥️
no
I voted for him. It was IMPOSSIBLE to vote for Bolsonaro. Good Luck Brazil.
Why?
Fato engraçado, o vice do Lula (Geraldo Alckmin) , já concorreu a presidência 5 vezes, sempre falando mal do Lula
Lula ❤
bom mesmo e ver quem apoia esse ladrao se lascando com ele na presidencia
Come on guys, You didn't mentioned Sergio Moro,
well, Vox forgot to say that Lula was never considered innocent... and talking about democracy have you guys heard about TSE censorship here in Brazil?