Brazil’s Lula da Silva, explained
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- Опубліковано 24 жов 2022
- Lula da Silva wants to be president for a second time. But Brazil has changed.
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On October 2, 2022, Brazilians voted in the first round of their presidential election. The top two finishers were current president Jair Bolsonaro and former president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva. Both candidates will face each other in a run-off on October 30. Lula is considered likely to win.
Lula is arguably Brazil’s most well-known and complex politician. He helped form a powerful political party, had two successful terms in office, and even served jail time over corruption and bribery allegations. After four years of Bolsonaro’s presidency, the core of Lula’s campaign has focused on restoring the Brazil of his own presidency. But a lot has changed in Brazil since his time in office.
Watch this video for a glance at Lula’s career and to understand why his second time as president would be very different than his first.
Some sources that were helpful to us in researching this story:
The Brazilian Report’s election coverage
brazilian.report/
Lula and His Politics of Cunning by John French
uncpress.org/book/97814696557...
Nurturing Hope, Deepening Democracy, and Combating Inequalities in Brazil: Lula, the Workers' Party, and Dilma Rousseff's 2010 Election as President by John French and Alexandre Fortes
read.dukeupress.edu/labor/art...
Lula’s Second Act by Giancarlo Summa
www.dissentmagazine.org/onlin...
Can Brazil Turn Back the Clock by Brian Winter
www.foreignaffairs.com/articl...
How Bolsonaro Might Win-Even If He Loses by Brian Winter
www.foreignaffairs.com/brazil...
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no mention of sergio moro?
you really should have mentioned that the judge in lula's case was corrupt and colluded with the prosecution, and bolsonaro also has issues with corruption
Bolsonaro presidente 22
Do a video about Bolsonaro’s corruption he robbed billions from Brazil and his money is stashed in Dubai
@@emanoelmso go lula
Fun fact: The center-right candidate soundly defeated by Lula in the 2006 election is now his running mate in this year's election. The US equivalent would be something like Obama being allowed to run again in 2028 and picking Romney as his VP.
Except Obama was center right and pro big business. Which was why no one went to prison for the sector wide fraud in the financial crisis and Obama continued Bush era foreign policies like mass surveillance. Obama is the opposite of Lula. Not even remotely close.
Which shows how broad Lula's front is. It is necessary, because the country is extremely polarized and, unfortunately, heavily armed by Bolsonaro.
Obama is centre right as it is though?
@@bri1085 US Democratic Party is basically centre right compared to most other countries
Lula: the left wing enlightened centrist ahah
american media always "forgetting" to point out that the judge that emprisioned Lula was later working in bolsonaro's government
Conveniently forgeting the US government put money on in too
Yes, the video implies corruption on Lula by showing that he was arrested, but the fact that the process and the trial was staged and prosecution was following the judge's orders, it not mentioned. On top of it, the judge became Justice minister of Bolsonaro's presidency.
The story of the judge deserves a video on itself.
Vox makes videos that are easy to digest by not going really in depth on the subject at hand. Thankfully the Car Wash operation and its aftermath were widely covered at the time by international news, so I’m aware that a few important details were left out (Dilma wasn’t actually implicated in bribes, the Congress applied a chokehold to her government, the party with the highest amount of members involved in the so-called Petrolao was the PP, which was ironically Bolsonaro’s previous party, etc). 9 minutes is not enough to understand the Brazilian saga of 2002-2022, so I didn’t expect a full coverage, but for the uninformed viewer, this could affect its understanding of the whole story, yes.
still doesn't change the fact that Lula is corrupt man
Worth mentioning that the minister of the Supreme Court who cancelled lula’s long list of crimes was appointed by Lula himself! As for former judge Moro having become a minister of Justice in Bolsonaro’s team is very normal! Poor narrative of losers!
It would've been important to mention that Lula was sent to prison while he was attempting to run in the 2018 presidential election.
It does not change the fact that he would've lost. He should still be in jail, BTW.
Lol He was supposed to be in prison, a bandit created the biggest criminal organization Brazil has ever seen, having that bandit as president is a shame!!
@@CaesarLvcivs He wouldn't. He literally won three years after being released. And he would've won then as well, even though "antipetismo" was on its rise. Bolsonaro is the first president, ever since redemocratization, to be unable to re elect himself. It just shows how incompetent he was, though his army is huge and particularly noisy (still couldn't shut up to this day).
@@vitoriacaroline2354 Chora mais, o Lula roubou as eleições
Exactly, they should mention Moro in this video
To the people that will comment after me, we don't speak Brazilian, we ARE Brazilians and we speak Portuguese.
neymar
fr, what do they think? in their logic, do americans speak american or united states? lol
@@shi6ri no one’s saying this though, your getting mad over nothing
Yeah. BRAZILIAN Portuguese. So in a way you still speak Brazilian and not the original Portuguese.
Trust me I know that but some people don’t
Fun fact: In Portuguese, José is pronounced José, not Hosé
oh really? i didnt know josé was pronounced josé
It's better to say "José" with the same J as in "job" when referring to Brazilian names
@@mugitude lol
YES, so annoying when they say it wrong.
English speakers might be able to imitate the sound properly if they spell out "zh". In IPA it's written as /ʒ/ and called a voiced alveolar approximant if I'm remembering correctly.
(Edit: It's actually called a voiced alveolar fricative)
Good video. However, any explanation of Brazil's politics in the last decade without considering the partial role of Sergio moro - the judge that prosecuted Lula - and his alliance with Bolsonaro is missing a crucial step.
This video didn't show enough how insanely corrupt Lula is. It's thanks to him that Bolsonaro has risen
Completely false and proven false by numerous international agencies, Lula is a Chinese sellout who will throw any Brazilian under the boss to enrich himself and Beijing
@@matheus5230 I can see that that's certainly your opinion. I dissent.
Sim, "detalhe" importantíssimo que faltou e também o golpe contra a Dilma
EXACTLY. This video is GROSSLY misinformed. Should be remade.
You forgot to mention US’s involvement in Bolsonaro’s election. He had the same campaign manager as Trump. And let’s not forget US’s role in dissolving BRIC, as this coalition was successful and very competitive in the global economy.
Steve Banon?
"Forgot" haha
realmente, tanto que nenhum dos 2 presidenciáveis disse que quebraria o Brasil de seu papel no BRICS
BRICS still exists
@@adamorowski3902 yes
Bolsa Família was not a new program. Lula created just the new name. The program was created by the former president Fernando Henrique Cardoso, and it was called Bolsa Escola.
eles tem que falar a verdade
fazer um vídeo que contem tanta desinformação não é certo
além de que Lula é a favor da ditadura e financiou Cuba e Venezuela
MAIS OU MENOS. Na verdade Lula uniu 4 dos programas de FHC e deu um nome.
But the bolsa familia was created in 2003, a year after Lula was elected president
odd how vox didnt mentioned how lula got out of jail
No Brasil temos 3 poderes. Um deles o Judiciário em específico o STF onde é a corte máxima, soltaram ele passando por cima da constituição. Curiosidade: quem em espefico soltou ele foi quem o próprio Lula indicou na época do seu mandato a vaga na cadeira do STF. Estamos começando a passar problemas de censura.
Because the judgment was considered partial even by the UN
neither who put him there
@@JoaoVictor-ub5cy Interesting how you didn’t mention that the judges during his case was one of Bolsonaro’s allies
even we brazilian are not totally sure about that, everyone that you ask will give you a different explanation or speculation
there is a mistake in the video. Dilma was never charged for anything related to Lava Jato.
Exactly, Dilma was never charged with anything regarding corruption. She was removed due to a palamentary coup.
yes, Vox seems to imply it Dilma Rouseff "fell" because she was caught in a corruption scandal. wrong.
Dilma is the most goody two-shoes politician to a fault, one of the reasons she was hated in congress, she wouldn't "play ball".
she was coup'ed in an Impeachment for manipulating the appearance of the budget, an election-time maneuver use by all recent brazilian presidents before her AND after her.
the documentary "The Edge of Democracy" by Petra Costa is beautiful and follows this process well.
@@bartomalatesta5652 She was removed because in 2014 the people took the streets protesting for her impeachment. It wasn`t a coup because that is what the people protested for. All the government did was give the people what they wanted.
@@bartomalatesta5652 chora petista
Indeed, Dilma was impeached because she didn't bend to what we call "centrão" (or the big centre... a bunch of smaller, very corrupt political parties that sway accordingly with the party in power). Even her vice-president (a participant in the "centrão" himself) actually had a part in the coup d'etat against her.
I (as brazilian) find it very interesting when I see something like this video in the internet. It's hard to see foreign people talking about your country and its' political debate, yet here I am. Thanks for bringing such an interesting video on the topic and I hope more people watch it and understand a little bit more about foreign countries politics.
Pena que tem uma dúzia de falhas de explicação e falta de citação de informações extremamente relevantes para a compreensão dessa situação, por exemplo sobre as condenações de Lula e da maioria de seus chefes de governo e trazendo comentários bastante tendenciosos também a respeito de Bolsonaro.
@@jfc22 Perdeu mane
It's actually not the hard, I live in The Netherlands and there was a lot of coverage on the news on the election day and the following. On the first turn I was in portugal and that was all that was being talked about on the news and even by people at the beach lol, but I guess for portugal its not so surprising
same here. Although its sad to see how politics in Brazil turned into a very hateful thing, with almost no facts, just supersticions that are created to put more heat into people's hatred.
foda que pronunciam os nomes como se nos fossemos falantes de espanhol por exemplo jose ela disse rose
05:16 wasn't just a recession, it was literally the BIGGEST recession on Brazil TO THIS DAY(yes, bigger than covid)
Not true, COVID retracted the economy in 4.7% as 2014 crisis causes a retraction of 3.5%. Brazil got out of the list of 10 biggest economies in the beggining of 2021
@@gabrielsiqueira4384 you’re the trumpist from the tropics and will spread misinformation just for the sake of it
They also acted like the recession reason was because of the commoditys price fall, in reality it was the fact that in Lula goverment he suported many polices, specially ignoring the budget celling. Their police kept themself working because of the comodity surplus but it was a ticking time bomb and they just ignored it.
The anoying part is that since it happened after Lula goverment, in his debates he just throws is positives numbers since the negatives came after, and even looking at the growth during his time, if you compare it with the region (South America) and countrys in a similiar economic situation ( emergent economus - BRICKS) youll see his economic group was just staying on track. This also includes poverty assistence sonce there was a global tendency of lesser poverty in that time
A simple google search shows that this is false, the 80s had the largest economic recession (not to mention the poverty rates were much larger than in the 2010s).
@@gabrielsiqueira4384 By a couple of years, not almost a decade. 2023 its the year the economy gets back to what it was pre Dilma! That's how bad that recession was, don't try to defend a CRISIS! Nothing about it was good!
The fact that this video does not highlight what actually happened with Lula's prosecution and the bogus nature of the charges is really pretty terrible.
Terrible journalism for ya
Delusional
Vox and other american channels tend to fail at explaining Latam politics. They're just witnesses of the rest of the world.
Whats pretty terrible is when people use that prosecution example to excuse Lula's corruption
Very well observed.
A correction: Rouseff was never included in the corruption from Petrobras (The oil state company) as said on the video (not my opinion, you can search for all juridical sources). Her economic plan was not good and trying to reduce the corruption mainly from the center/right parties, she creates issues with the parliament that, with the wealthy people, forced her government to an end. The police operation that has found that massive corruption was dried after she left the power, as an extra evidence of what really happened.
Minister for Energy and Petrobras CEO.
She was involved in Petrolao, 100%.
@@balham456 yeah if only they had the evidence to be as confident as your comment is
Again, no juridical sources.
Dilma was on the of the board of directors of Petrobras 2003-2010, right when Lavajato picked up steam in 2004.
Dilma was very close to Dirceu during the time of Mensalao.
Dilma was chair of the board at Petrobras at the height of Mensalao and when the dutch contractor SBM was found to be paying bribes to Petrobras personnel and to her Workers Party.
@@Formed123 all of that is circumstantial and no actual evidence of corruption was ever brought up against dilma which is evident in the fact that they werent able to take away her electability after her controversial impeachment
I currently live in Brazil and it's been a year. I just want to say a big thank you for explaining this whole election in the simplest way ever. I am so grateful. Now i can add to my research and educate my subscribers. Thank you
While this is a good starting point for understanding Brazil's political situation, I would recommend doing further research on some of the topics that were only lightly touched on, particularly Lula's arrest and Dilma's impeachment. Both are much more complex than the video makes them seem. I would recommend the Oscar-nominated documentary Edge of Democracy on Netflix to understand the political climate during Dilma's impeachment trial. It's from the POV of someone who was against her impeachment (as a great many Brazilians were) but it covers the issues many of us had with the way this trial was conducted, as well as showing the side of this period that much of the foreign press pays little attention to.
@@cyberpunkqueen1525 wow thank you very much for this insight. I would watch that show too . Thank you so much
Educate with lies? That’s indoctrination
@@cyberpunkqueen1525 Many were against? lol Oh yes because we, Brazilians, were so happy about the worst economic crisis in the history of our country under Dilma. I really miss those times.
+@@wuraolasdiary Your American just moved to Brazil?
You know Vox don't have the slightest idea about what they are talking when they can't even pronounce the name of the guy correctly.
Congrats.
Yea yea, and we still spell "anime" errado e idai
You can't discount the involvement of Cambridge Analytica in bringing Bolsonaro to power.
As well as the White House using NSA, CIA, FBI since 2013 to help brazilian right wing to overthrow the former president Dilma Roussef with a coup (and also spy Brazil state oil company Petrobras) jointly with brazilian Federal Prosecutor to perform lawfare against Lula and his party preventing him to run for presidency in 2018
@@MarcosPaulo-xs5em pesquisas aos quais foram mostradas todo santo dia dando uma enorme vantagem pra lulinha para os indecisos preferissem votar nele achando que ele venceria
????
huh
Cambridge Analytica damaged a lot of democracies around the world. In the Philippines, it helped elect a dictator's son to the presidency.
you forgot to say that the whole prision/impeachment thing was ilegal
Yeah, I wouldn't expect a English language vehicle to pick up on the nuances about the matter. Like how the reason to why the process that led to Lula's prison was judged by someone that later admitted to have a personal vendetta against Lula and actually served as Justice Minister for Bolsonaro. This man was Sérgio Moro, who late on Bolsonaro's time in charge left the government claiming he did everything Bolsonaro asked him so he could protect Bolsonaro's criminal sons, but also supported Bolsonaro in his campaign and got elected as senator.
Another fun fact: Sérgio Moro had meetings with the CIA and United Started Defense department. Private meetings. As a member of Brazilian government. After leaving Bolsonaro's government, he went on to work in companies that had their entire business around rescuing the Brazilian companies Sérgio Moro helped to destroy. Pretty convenient, right?
Anyone can check this up online.
Another massive mistake here is to say that Dilma herself was involved in any corruption scheme around Petrobras or, even worse, that was the reason she got taken out from office. She wasn't and her impeachment was a literal coup, where she got accused of practices Bolsonaro and many others would do before and after her and never got the same judgment. Also, another tip to the fraudulent backbone of it all: one of the legal consequences of a impeachment in Brazil is the loss of political rights, but Dilma didn't lost hers, in a unbelievable demonstration that they just needed her out, not necessarily being concerned about the law.
Funny you only talk about Sergio Moro (who later was running against Bolsonaro) but forget to mention the other 9 judges who not only condemned Lula, but INCREASED his imprisonment period after Sergio Moro
@@VitorHugoP Moro's never run against Bolsonaro. He was actually with Bolsonaro Team in the the 2nd round, even though he pointed that Bolsonaro was making efforts for obstruction of justice. It doesn't matter that Lula was convicted of corruption by the the Court. The process itself was null for 2 fundamental reasons: it shouldn't be prosecuted in Paraná and because Moro was promised a chair in the Supreme Court, so he worked with the prosecuters to make Lula go to jail and Bolsonaro could win the 2018 election.
As an American, I'm so used to seeing left as blue and right as red that this is tripping me up. Yes, I know it used to be flipped in the US as well.
In most of the world the left is red
@@rkeogh3467 I'm aware. We used to be red for left as well becuase it was associated with communism. I'm pretty sure it changed becuase of the Reagan election it was easier to have red for Reagan.
it is a very common color layout. I think of it as red being the banner of the workers who wish to distribute wealth and power and blue being the banner of the conservatives who wish to primarily maintain their economy, society and wealth as they believe it should be.
It wasn't flipped in the US. It was right, and then got flipped to what u have now. Across the world red is the color of the left and socialism
I always associate red with left and blue with right
Some very important circumstances were omitted from the video, such as the coup to impeach Dilma and the partial role of the judge that convicted Lula (who started a political career of his own soon after and became Minister of Justice in Bolsonaro's government)
papo reto
It was not a coup. And her government was bad.
Liberal media is not friends with conservatives, progressives, socialists. Only other liberals.
@@matheus5230 It was a bad government but it was still a coup, and look at where we ended up in... She wasnt impeached because of any crime she commited, she got impeached because she didnt have a majority in congress or in the senate, and the legislative was activelly sabotaging her government.
Bolsonaro's government is 1000x worse than Dilma's but the only reason he didnt got impeached is because he is handing out tens of billions of dollars to the congress, Dilma would never do that lol
Also that time when Bolsonaro was stabbed, that really changed the way the election was going.
Strange how Vox said that Bolsonaro's popularity never exceeded 40% but his demonstrations in the Paulista avenue exceeded 1 million people
That's less than 1% of registered voters in brazil.
As a brazilian i can talk Lula was acused of being involved in numerous corruption scandals (more than 50). he was released from jail because the STF (as a supreme Court in the US) didn't judge him because he had more than 70 years old, and also because the STF changed its interpretation of improsenment during the second instancy.
Dear Vox,
Can you make a video like this on how Sri Lanka was bankrupted. Actually my country had a long history of corruption, abuse and embezzlement but a one political family called Rajapaksa regime intensified all those bad things and now we experienced a massive and severe decline in everything. So please focus on this matter as well.
Vice did a video on it called "How A Family Allegedly "Ruined" Sri Lanka's Economy | The Big Steal" but yeah I would also like to see Vox's version
Cold fusion made a video about Sri Lanka. It's a great video. Go watch it.
@@fullmetaltheorist but I wanna see a video on Vox too.
@@tinaandro1178 Vox story telling is unique and creative. And also it has a larger audience. In that sense, we can permeate awareness of our country's situation.
@@asankajayaweera7212 I also like their creativity
just a little note. in portugues unlike spanish the name jose is actually pronounced jo-ze instead of ho-se
Did you know that the USA invented the airplane and not Brazil?
@@MamacitaBonita Santos Dummont didnt need a slingshot kekw
@@MamacitaBonita catapulta não voa
@@pedrosabino8899 sua mãe voa muito bem!!!
@@MamacitaBonita obrigado! Ela é uma ótima piloto de helicóptero!!
This video is very poor made. And it is skewed!! Im Brazillian, and it is really sad whats happening here. And what is really concerning is that most part of the media, local media and international media, is contributing to to the loss of freedom of the brazillian people.
why did you put this woman pronouncing the names as if they were in spanish?? we don't speak spanish, it's not "hosé", it's "JHOsé", if you're gonna go the extra mile to try and sound respectful at least go all the way, jesus
The video is not for us, it's for then.
We spell anime wrong? No, it just our definition of the word here in Brazil and the others country have their own definition and spelling
Good video, but there were certain aspects of the story (how the judge that persecuted Lula is a close Bolsonaro ally and the UN saying that the trail wasn't fair) that could have helped to understand it better as a whole.
I came here to say this, thanks, the "judge" part is a crucial one
@@egonrl If you really believe Lula is inocent, and not a massive insanelu corrupt thief, like his party, I'm sorry.
@@matheus5230, mah guy, you have nothing to be sorry about, don't worry. But could you just let me know if Roberto Jefferson is your friend or foe at this point? Já pintou um clima between him and Bolsonaro? Thanks in advance
@@egonrl Roberto Jefferson has zero sympathy from me. He is a proven corrupt.
Sir, arquivado e MUITO diferente de absolvido. Sergio Moro claramente foi imparcial, mas as provas continuam ai…
I find it funny that these international media channels don't say a word about The Intercept's "Vaza Jato" and its role on Lula's freedom.
So, they show as if Lula was a super clean opposition to Bolsonaro, which is clearly a lie, he is corrupt.
Please explain
@@ridethelighting83 The Intercept found irrefutable proof that Moro, the judge that convicted Lula and was later appointed as a Minister by Bolsonaro himself, was instructing prosecutors to find whatever way possible to frame Lula. No material evidence was ever found to prove Lula's personal involvement with any corruption scandal. Eventually, his convictions were overturned due to lack of evidence and illegal practices by judge Moro during the trials.
@@ridethelighting83 Basically, leaked Telegram chats between the judge (Sergio Moro, who later became Bolsonaro's Minister of Justice) and the attorneys that convicted Lula showed that it was not a fair judgement, and the intention was to get him arrested all the time, no matter if the evidence was inconclusive.
Makes you wonder, doesn’t it? Or at least it should.
basically we are seeing a video of a person with bad administration being like this in his 2 terms being below average per administration
he stole billions of BRL and his government only had low inflation because of commodity valuations the whole world was like that
he wants to control social networks in Brazil too
Lula was released from prison without being cleared
I am Brazilian
bolsonarista encontrado
@@menash000 oshi
@@menash000 sou um Investidor e entendo meios de economia e política diferentemente de vários vitimistas sem base de argumentos sobre o meio de política e economia
people in brazil still waiting for their picanha 🤣
no mention of sergio moro?
I don't think this audience wants to see a left-winger as a criminal... Just a case of "read the room, bro"
@@larl07 , Perhaps you should have said: "I don't think this audience wants to see a far-right-winger as a criminal. Or not 🤔 This audience does want to see a far-right-winger in jail. 🤭
@@sudi_cloud nah i meant that this video is not about how Lula is a criminal. That's why Moro is not mentioned, this audience is one which tends to want to root for the left winger, regardless of the ~18 billion returned from his corruption schemes.
@@larl07 to accuse someone of a crime you need proof beyond a PowerPoint presentation. To say "alleged" corruption and leave it at that without mentioning Sergio Moro does not tell the whole story. By the way, in which of Lula's secret Swiss Bank accounts were these 18 billion you mention stashed away?
Perhaps it was too divisive. But Sergio Moro and his relationship with Bolsonaro should not be ignored.
que história mais mal contada, me faz pensar muito sobre todos os outros videos internacionais que vocês produzem
parece que só mostra o que convem
Anos de política resumidos em 10 minutos deixam o vídeo faltando MUITOS pedaços fundamentais, tanto pra defender/acusar o Lula quanto pra evidenciar problemas do Bolsonaro. Porém concordo q tá raso demais
Great video. Just one thing: José in portuguese is spelled ‘jay’ not ‘rose’ like in spanish
There is so many wrong information about Bolsonaro's government in this video.
Over simpliflied! Roussff was politically incapable of governing, but she was deposed by a coup. Lula was also arested for political reasons, the magistrate who issue the sentence took part with the attorney during trial, and later was suspended from office. He was also nominated minister in Bolsonaro's government, but resigned soon after corruption matters haunted the president's family. Now he has been elected senator and once again sided with Bolsonaro. Of course, Lula has also been involved in corruption schemes, but to explained what's happening in Brazil now, we must look at other political players not mentioned in the video.
Great take on the video
Thanks for your video. Small correction: in portuguese "j" is pronounced more like in english than in spanish. José Alencar
I don't know which one to pick, It pronounce H Hose Alencar or Y Yose Alencar
@@zvlfn none of them actually hahaha, It's more like J in words like joker or jackson
@@zvlfn @waterbonkie is right. The letter J in portuguese always has the same sound as "conclusion", "pleasure", "unusual" (/ʒ/ phoneme).
Examples: "José Alencar", "Lava-jato" (Car Wash Operation), "janela" (window), "jogo" (game), "coruja" (owl).
It's a bit hard for us brazillians because we don't have the J sound in portuguese - like in "jazz", "job", "age", "edge" or "general" (/dʒ/ phoneme), so when we say "Jackson" it's common to use /ʒ/ phoneme instead of the /dʒ/ phoneme, because it's a new sound for us.
@@thon6760 we do have the dzh sound. Especially in words such as "Jonathan" (sometimes spelled Diônatan), or any other words with "di" in many dialects.
Edit: also in borrowed words such as the ones you've listed. It's already a pretty common sound in our pronunciation of "jazz" and "job"
@@zvlfn none of the options are right. It's actually pronounced "JOE zé"
I am pretty sure that in Português Jose isn’t pronounced as [H]ose in Spanish
You pronounced José Alencar wrong. It's not spanish, it's portugueses. Pay attention next time!
Great to see that you guys are involved with Brazilian issues - especially the recent threats to the country's democracy. However, many important points that should be mentioned about the impeachment of former President Dilma Rousseff as well as the absolutely outrageous arrest of President Luis Inácio Lula da Silva were left out. With all due respect, more concise explanations of such a complex political scheme were completely ignored.
Is there anywhere you’d recommended i can read about this?
Outrageous arrest of Lula? He's a thief.
"absolutely outrageous arrest" HAUHAUHAUHUAHUAHUAHU. The arrest was maintained time and time again, but yeah, Lula supporters know the law more than all of brazilian judges.
@@felipelandim2881 The game of 'impartiality' between brazilian judges is actually quite known all over the world, don't be fooled.
@@blythe546 Watch „The Edge of Democracy“, a Netflix production, just to get the big picture.
I'm impressed of how things can be oversimplified..
true but i cant find better material about the brazilian election
wait to see the tiktok version. lol
@@readisgooddewaterkant7890 "thejuicemedia" covered the current Government pretty well. "The edge of democracy" is a documentary about the Dilma situation that was nominated for the Oscar
@@Dani_el_Duck yeah the left-wing channel just to clarify
@@tuthures5824 Bozo is destroying the biggest forest on earth, just to clarify
They simply rolled back the court case, he was not absolved of anything,
exactly
Bolsonaro never ever tried any move against the media and the brazilian supreme court is basically favoring candidates in election, its just so bizarre... You might think that i'm some sort of radical, but let me tell you something:
After the election a supreme court judge( the one who judged the election rules) went to a party with Lula and his lawyer to dance samba, can you believe this? its just so ridiculous... The same judge that New York Times said it was crossing the line...
Good video. You just forgot to tell the viewers about how Sergio Moro, the judge that prosecuted Lula, was partial and after it joined the Bolsonaro government as a minister, then left Bolsonaro's government accusing it of being corrupt, but now he decided to support Bolsonaro's candidacy.
Falar do Moro é chamar atenção pros EUA, o Moro teve ajuda deles. Por isso nem tocam no assunto
Moro is the real-life Littlefinger, but thankully he's not that smart.
O moro ser parcial e ter ajuda do governo americano são as minhas duas fanfics favoritas sobre toda essa história.
@@waltrickaWFT Não é fanfic. É fato, inclusive reconhecido por um comitê da ONU e pelo STF.
@@matheusalbert1925 Se tiver dúvidas procure os tweets, os vídeos dele na internet...
Uma de suas declarações após sair do governo é bem interessante:
"Sério que, entre um ladrão de um lado e um ladrão do outro, a culpa é do juiz? Entre o petrolão e a rachadinha, não há escolha possível. Precisamos, sim, reformar nosso sistema de justiça para que casos de corrupção não fiquem impunes"
No one seems to know how to pronounce "Jose" the Portuguese way
yeah because the J is very different in the languages they know, spanish speak like "Hosé", sometimes "Yosé", and english speak with a "d" sound at the beginning.
I think the better way to teach some english speaker to pronounce it correctly is to tell them to speak Joseph, but without the D sound and the "ph", and entone the "e"
@@danielpaulo2119 You can also go after words that do the portuguese "j" sound in English, like Fusion (the s) or vision (again, the s) or seizure (the z)
edit: or tell them it's the french "j", that would work too, if they know some french
You didnt come close to explaining Lula
The Republic of Brazil is doomed to failure. I think that the words of the writer Erça de Queiroz will one day come true. "Brazil is Empire, it will be Republic and then it will be Empire again."
Deus te ouça! Já deu essa republiqueta nojenta...
The video has some flaws here and there, but I like to see international interest onto Brazil, thanks for the video ✌🏻✌🏻
no
just no , bolsominiooon
Americans really don't understand Brazil politics
They don't understand A LOT of things ...
What did you expect ? They are americans.
Former president Dilma was never implicated in the Petrobras scandal... But, yes, her popularity sunk even more because of it.
I don't get why English-speakers pronounce José (when the name is, clearly, supposed to be in Portuguese) as they do in Spanish. Just pronounce the 'J' as you would in the name James or Joseph.
It's a common mistake that they assume J in Portuguese is pronounced the same as it is in Spanish.
And actually, it's pronounce like zh rather than English J.
Or, rather, pronounce it the correct way (phoneme /ʒ/, think the French J).
But yeah, between mistakenly pronouncing it like in Spanish and doing it in English, the latter is the better. There's already enough people that think we just speak Spanish like everybody else in the region.
@@giannixx it'd be close enough and, more importantly, not sound Spanish.
It's not English speakers so much as US Americans... British commonly prounce the hard J because they are either lazy/uncultured or due to their closer ties to Portugal where they have a hundred years old alliance, whereas Americans are very closely tied to Latin America in trade and culture and a large minority speaks Spanish fluently.
it’s not that deep man. relax
Vox ignored several key issues, such as the political involvement of the judge who sentenced Lula, Sergio Moro, who became Bolsonaro's justice minister. Obviously acted partially. A judge who openly hated Lula and the PT, who is now a politician.
Vox ignored the messages that Moro exchanged with the prosecutors, giving guidelines on how to act, and the spurious strategy of lawfare and media defamation that the judge himself perpetrated.
That is not the role of a judge. These and many other pieces of evidence, such as private conversations and public statements make it clear that Lula was unjustly imprisoned.
Even the Lula process was considered political by the responsible committee of the United Nations, and dozens of associations and organizations of international jurists.
This is a very important, VERY IMPORTANT issue not to be addressed.
The media seems to be too cautious in exposing the reality about Lula's process and the obvious injustices that have been committed against him. And this is a huge injustice. When he was convicted by a regional judge, the media published the accusations against Lula without any criteria, as if they were absolute truths. Now that Lula is acquitted by the Supreme Court, by international courts and jurists, is the media afraid to show it?
Yes 👏🏻👏🏻
The judge was independent and was latter kicked out off Bolsonaro government for reaching close to Bolsonaro s corrupted children
The guy openly hated Bolsonaro
Stop lying
Lula has not been acquitted from his charges, please go over that information
Lula wasn't acquitted by the Supreme Court. As Marco Aurélio said, he ain't innocent, i.e, the charges brought against him are still valid.
Lula was never acquitted lol. He was sentenced in EVERY level, "instância", he only got out on a technicality, that the jurisdiction should have been in Brazilia.
Small correction: Brazilian J is not pronounced like Spanish. For "José", think Zhozé, not Hozé.
This is just an approximation due to the different phonetic inventories, but it's J as the S in "measure" or the Z in "seizure" (the same as French J), the O is closed as in "potencial", the S is pronounced like a Z, and the É is open somewhat like the A in "at".
The more precise description is [ʒo.'zɛ], but many Brazilians reduce the first vowel to [u] or [ʊ] because it's unstressed, so many natives, including me, will actually say [ʒu.'zɛ].
Also, for the surname "Alencar", there are two R sounds in Brazilian Portuguese, /ɾ/ (alveolar tap, like T in "better" or "water" in some dialects) and /x/ (voiceless velar fricative, like Scottish "loch"), this one is the tap. In standard Brazilian Portuguese, the R is never like in English "red" or "rose".
WILL BE THE CHOOSE ONE NOT BY THE THE BRAZILIAN PEOPLE ,,,, BUT BY THE TSE/STF=BRAZILIAN SUPREME COURT ON LULA' SIDE!!!!!
@@mariablanc6354 lfmao
They roll their rs in Sao Paulo, though. It's the way their dialect is.
most English speakers don't roll their R's, you mean Spanish
I forget that Brazil was colonized by Portugal, not Spain.
I'm very worried about the future of Brazil and their people after this election. Stay safe y'all love from the United States 🇺🇲❤️🇧🇷
???
Me leva pra morar aí ?
Agree, thank U. Brazil will never become a well function society, compared to US. Our politician only cares about themselves and their people, inequality it's un rise not just between people of difference background but also on greedy political view for the middel-class's and upper class and etc...
is going to have a war betwen brasil china russia... and europe end usa
Fato engraçado, o vice do Lula (Geraldo Alckmin) , já concorreu a presidência 5 vezes, sempre falando mal do Lula
It is striking that Brazil, socioeconomically, is in such a similar situation as the US.
From a political standpoint, Poland is actually a near-perfect mirror reflection of the US, as there are only 2 main political parties: far-right nationalist and Christian-conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party, and the centrist Civic Platform (PO), with no true left-wing party.
You really can't compare the economy of a country with a GDP per capita under $7000 to the US. It's not even close n
I'm brazilian. We're the poor cousin. But we're all f**ked up
That is a big lie
the similarity was in foreign intervention (CCP-WEF) with sponsored machine voting tabulation
This video has me googling "who owns Vox"
cuz you're braindead
Exactly!! 😂
Como disse a Dilma, ela era uma mulher dura em uma mesa cheia de homens fofos e carinhosos. Falar da Dilma com essa visão, é uma visão rasa do que realmente aconteceu.
Tá, agora façam um documentário falando a verdade
O mundo real não é como dizem no grupo da família no zape zape. Ou você abre o olho para a verdade ou vai para a porta de um quartel chorar e virar meme.
you guys missed a very important factor in this history the way that the lava jato investigations were conducted, a key factor was the participation of the judge sergio moro and how he was more like a part of the prossecutors, wich led ultimatly to the accusations being droped under these circumstances of impartiality.
that being said, lula isn't the first choice for many, primarely becouse of these corruption scandals, and bolsonaro is more like a last resort, and the same applys to lula, for many that want bolsonaro out of power, these are complicated times for brasil.
Nope, they weren't dropped. What happened was, the supreme court ruled that the process be redone from scratch because it was judged in, by their words, the "wrong city".
@@lucasbarreiros608 and after that they were dropped, that’s why I said ultimately and what aways have been used by the defense of Lula was the role of Sergio Moro and the way that the prosecutors executed all of these investigations, with total disregard for the presumption of innocence and all that make the justice system just, including disrespecting were the process should have been judged, Lula was one of the most corrupt politicians in Brazilian history and should be in jail but every one has the right to a fair trial, including him.
@@bleyd5000 They were not dropped. The process restarted and they WANT it to be dropped
@@bleyd5000Anyway, it was a fair trial. Anyone who says otherwise wasn't watching it closely
It's strange how almost every part of the word had an major, Overton-Window shift to the far right in the 2010s -- a trend that has managed to persist into the 2020s
This is likely due to the 2008 recession, people saw that the current governments weren't able to avoid it so they wanted a change in power.
There was huge global shift in politics during the aftermath.
When the public go from living comfortably to to the opposite they want change quickly and usually lean towards more extreme political views with strong voices & opinions.
The reason for that is Cambridge Analytica and Steve Bannon. They discovered how to successfully exploit social media and the internet by using big data and targeted campaigns to steer people's political views and sentiments.
Fun fact: The Bolsa Família program gave not the families all this money, it was a pretty low ammount, actually.
This channel is always getting stuff wrong, don't know why but it's almost like it's on purpose.
7:30 Which country's GDP didn't go down in 2020??
You forgot to talk about Moro participation in Lula's prinsion. Them he became Bolsonaro's minister.
Glenn Greenwald deserves a huge shout out for documenting how Lula’s prosecution was corrupt, ultimately leading to his being freed. Lula would not have won, but for Glenn Greenwald’s tireless journalism.
Would u praise Glenn also for his saying about Alexandre de Moraes hunting on conserrvatives here in Brazil?
Sergio moro could have been parcial, but what about the other judges at even further instances?
@@tiagosousa2378 They "forget" that Lula was convicted by more than 8 ppl
@@ZUPYNinGAME tu quoque
Thank You for share our story, few know what we've been through.
This video does not translate the reality. Search another one
8:32 There are no former president in Brasil who can be considered "righ".
almost all of them are in what do we call "centrão", because they are not interested in political purposes or even causes, but only in votes, money and their businesses
Portuguese *isn't* Spanish: “José” is pronounced /Zh/osé, like the letter _s_ in _measure,_ not like the Spanish /H/osé.
Thank you for clarifying that
The whole world was affected by Covid. Bolsonaro's government provided 600 BRL per month of support for poor people, it enable the country to reduce its poverty index. The violence in Brazil decreased by more than 20% in the right-wing government. They also finished building a bridge to take water to the Northeast - a work that PT's government hadn't finished.
Polarization, apophenia, and the Red Scare dominate many lives down here these days.
" Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. "
Good video, but you cannot make a video like this without mentioning Sergio Moro, Operation Carwash and diving a little bit further in the unjust impeachment of Dilma. This really is a crucial component of understanding why Bolsonaro won in the first place.
Final conclusions are really good though.
Not unjust, she broke the spending ceiling, breaking a law that made over 66% vote for her impeachment, it is all under the law, altho law is not always moral.
@@nmb-u- The 'pedaladas fiscais' were not at all serious enough for an impeachment. The voting and the run-up to the impeachment showed that, they wanted to get rid of Dilma for the beginning and just looked for a legal excuse.
the impeachment was completely justified, her goverment was terrible
@@naitor2594 It was not justified by the causes they presented and based the impeachment on. That was clear when all previous presidents did the same thing Dilma did and were not impeached nor prosecuted, and far more obvious after the next president (Temer) along with congress changed laws to not be a crime anymore, and subsequent Temer and Bolsonaro did the exact same thing as her without any consequence.
It was a soft coup where they exploited an obscure legal breach just to force Dilma out, and amended the law right after so they could continue doing it without having the same fate.
@@PixelarterIt was still legal, and she was literally hated by people from her own party due to her incompetence
Hi @Vox! I hope you could also make an analysis on Leni Robredo from the Philippines, moreso the recently concluded Philippine Elections.
fan fact, the majoria of the reporters are of left
Thank you for putting a spotlight on Brazilian politics and our upcoming election date for the world to see. We hope to turn things around during this election.
YES, 13 VICTORIOUS THIS SUNDAY!!
I can assure you they won't
22!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@naitor2594 that didn't age well now did it
@@BolinhoDeArrozCozido he'll probably get an impeachment regardless because of the inflation that he's causing before even getting to power
Honestly, anyone who pledges trust, or even LOVE, for any politician (here in Brasil) has to be absurdly naive. And as we can see in the comments, there are a lot of those people in our country.
What i fear the most is not who will be in power, but the ignorance of the easily divided population.
Truer words were never spoken, my fellow countrymen. Nevertheless, we have to choose the least bad of them.
I found someone with good sense in the comments
A politician convicted of corruption should not be at all allowed to run again
🇧🇷💙💚👏👏👏👏👏
So... idk if you've heard about it... but his convictions were annulled 🤪btw, he's been proven innocent in all recent verdicts
Eu nunca vi tanta bobeira na minha vida
Missing Michael Brooks… wish he was here to see this.
That's exactly what I thought when I first opened this video. Left is Best!
So many things he could have laughed at that we missed out on
Makes me mad he had to pass away (rest in peace) while all the other bigots he regularly schooled are running around...
For real!
Left is best!
Good job putting this video together!
you people have to stop giving brazilian names spanish pronunciations. Specially talking about recent history.
No one in Brazil actually calls him Lula da Silva, it's just Lula. Why is it so hard for gringos to get it right? Almost 11M subscribers but Vox can't do their research, as indicated by the number of comments correcting the video's pronunciation of "José." Y'all could've just used Google Translate 🗣
Bruh the video is not for us, but for the others americans
Why not say the truth?
Strange how political developments in Brazil mirror those in South Africa
probaly a trend in later stage developing countries & regarding bolsonaro particularly because far-right ressurgences are a common phenomenon in a left-leaning government's crisis
Probably by US influence in both countries
Perhaps because Brazil is in South America??
@@fgsaramago South Africa and South America are two different places bruv
@@fgsaramago average american geography skills:
CADE A TROPA DOS BRASILEIRO?
👇👑
Qualquer um dos lados são ruim. Resumo da opera😓
Estuda melhor
RIP Brasil. Doomed to misery and corrupt populists...
But the media says he’s an innocent flower condemned unfairly!!!! Ohhhhhhh😢😂
@@napi1650media=fake news
“They’re all thieves, but at least this one gives back some of it.” 😂😂😂
The reality is sad
Brazilians are very cynical when it comes to politics. Is sad, but real.
It is something like that haha
Thats literally what people here in Portugal would say when years ago we had politicians fined or even jailed for corruption that would when they got out nonetheless get reelected time and time again
This is literally "Joe biden vs Trump" Brazil Version
The both left leaning president rigged their elections. It's uncanny.
Not at all
I'm here to remind you that Lula wasn't deemed innocent, his case was only anulled by the Supreme Court
So? This means he is innocent until proven guilty.
Não, não é, aprenda a diferença entre nulidade processual e mérito.
@@pauloemilio9807 ces tem que aprender a diferenciar ladrão de candidato a presidência
Good video, but you guys really took a side there. It would be better mentioning the whole 230 billion reais cut off from the healthcare investments, the Petrolão and Mensalão. I hope Brazil will see the truth, and reelect our great president.
Amazing video and very interesting, as a Brazilian I'm grateful to see content about our country.
WILL BE THE CHOOSE ONE NOT BY THE THE BRAZILIAN PEOPLE ,,,, BUT BY THE TSE/STF=BRAZILIAN SUPREME COURT ON LULA' SIDE!!!!!
@@mariablanc6354 Joel Santana? É você?
@@paulobaceIar ri demais hahahaha
@@paulobaceIar não basta passar vergonha em português, o gado gosta de passar vergonha em inglês também. É a burrice dos minions à mostra pro resto do mundo.
This video is an embarrassment for all Brazilian people. Me as a Brazilian, can relate to that. Lula is a dangerous man… he was actually judged, condemned and ARRESTED for corruption with all kinds of proofs.
This video is nothing but a bunch os lies!
Please share with us in which pages of the legal process are the PROOFS against Lula. The then judge Sergio Moro never showed any proof of his accusations, let’s see if you are luckier than the judge and the prosecution.
Hiiiii
GANHAMOS!!!! A Democracia venceu!
?????? A democracia ia acontecer de qlqr forma de um dos lados, acho q n é mt democrático dizer q um sistema de eleição venceu só pq seu lado venceu e a outra metade do país não pq n concorda com seus ideais.
@@johndraper4211 deixa eu ver se entendi, um dos dois queria aumentar o numero de ministros no supremo pra ter maioria, aparelhou a PF pra não ser investigado e fazia apologia a ditadura no país desde a época de Deputado, mas os dois eram igualmente democratas?
@@onorioneto3798 Ter uma maioria no supremo não quer dizer literalmente nada, já que não garante nem sequer alguma vitória em um julgamento ou um apoio, se fosse assim, o PT já possuía desde muito tempo uma maioria avassaladora no supremo, logo, isso não quer dizer se tratar de um regime antidemocrático, já que o próprio Lula possuía grande parte do supremo e foi eleito por um grande tempo repetidamente. Sobre a PF, sinceramente, não deu a entender bem o que quis dizer, mas se tu se referiu sobre indicar um superintendente da PF, isso é literalmente uma atribuição de todo presidente a ser eleito no país.
Sobre a ditadura n tenho mt oq falar msm, já que não sou muito apegado ao tema da ditadura militar, mas ao menos sei que defender é uma coisa e fazer apologia é outra. Tal coisa que o PT já fez apologia a ditaduras socialistas/"comunistas" na América, como no caso da Venezuela e de Cuba(tirando a ditadura chinesa), mas claro, isso não é antidemocrático, é apenas apoiar um bando de ditaduras com uma apegada de sua ideologia. Então não, acho que não foi antidemocrático por parte da metade de seu país apenas por estar de um lado oposto e concordar com ideais diferentes, lembrando que passamos 4 anos e por estarmos em um regime democrático não deu poder algum a um presidente(que sinceramente, não possui tanto poder quanto aparenta), tanto que a mídia junto de outros criticaram ele durante todo seu governo sem medo algum e das formas mais diversas e até mesmo estúpidas possíveis, e ainda não vejo um enorme cartaz do "glorioso líder Bolsonaro" em qualquer lugar político como uma figura suprema, "metade" do país destestando-o, "metade" do país apoiando-o/idolantrando-o e o resto simplesmente não apoiando ninguém e indo na leva.
@@johndraper4211 beleza cara, já entendi que vc ta se esforçando muito pra não ver nada, fica a vontade ai no seu mundinho
Tu literalmente tá acusando o cara do que cê faz/fez/tá fazendo HAHAHAHAHA
Ah if you guys only knew what is really happening here in Brazil...
Yes. I was looking for this comment. God bless Brazil.
What's happening? Please inform me.
@@Yeen_ If you really want to know, you're going to need time. I recommend the documentary "Teatro das Tesouras" (theather of scisors in english) by Brasil Paralelo, I don't know if it's available in your country.
@@MrRobertofusion 😥
This video is fundamentaly flawed. Not mentioning that Lula’s trial was a political one, built upon false accusations to prevent him from running a campaign in the 2018 elections, one that he could easily win, was really disapointing coming from VOX (to say the least). Another thing is that the judge who sent Lula to prison, after being successful, came to be Bolsonaro’s minister of justice, loking for winning a seat in the supreme court, which had to be appointed by the president, i.e. Bolsonaro (Long story short: he was not and later accused Bolsonaro of corruption. Now they are friends again 😪).Years later the supreme court of Brazil and even The UN ruled against the trial and released Lula from prison, recognizing that it was a political trial.
@@MarcosPaulo-xs5em Cuida, faz teu nome.
How do you know the accusations are false? No court ever ruled on that!
@@fgsaramago No court ever said is was true. Where is the judge who made all the trials? Oh, he is Bolsonaro adviser now and showed his face at Globo as well at hir righ side.
@@paulodelima5705 and where are Lula's Octopharma lobbyist friends? In jail!
@@fgsaramagoBadEmpanada made a Great video on the topic with evidence.
It's hard to find so many lies together in such a short time.
It's a good short video, but I woudn't mind if it was a little bit longer and explained more about Lula's conviction. For example: the judge that convicted him tried to use as proof an unsigned contract, among other ridiculous stuff. Later on he was named to run a ministry in Bolsonaro's government (not by coincidence, of course, he putted in jail the only person that could defeat Bolsonaro). Lula's convictions were annulled later because they discovered that that Judge was planning how to frame Lula together with the accusation side of the case, among other stuff. So yeah, Lula 13, let's go
Behold, the PowerPoint Presentation.
The most final proof of all proofs.
Not true at all
Esqueceu das delações.
E aliás ele nunca foi inocentado nem as provas invalidadas. O que aconteceu é que mandaram recomeçar o processo porque "julgaram na cidade errada"
Só esqueceu de dizer que Lula não foi inocentado, né?
Mas cada um com seu bandido de estimação.