Russia’s private military force, explained

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  • Опубліковано 13 лют 2023
  • Inside the Wagner Group’s playbook.
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    On January 10, 2023, the Ukrainian town of Soledar was reportedly captured. But it wasn’t captured by the Russian army under Vladimir Putin’s command. The announcement came from a relatively unknown man, Yevgeny Prigozhin, who said his troops now controlled the town. The troops are part of the Wagner Group, a private army that has become a prominent force alongside Russian troops in the war against Ukraine.
    But they aren’t new. They've been secretly fighting for Russia around the world since 2014. In this video, we take a look at their playbook and examine the three main steps they use to spread Russian influence around the world in brutal ways. We also look at how they’ve transformed from a ghost army to a recognizable private military group with insignias and an online brand, changing the nature of this secret group and its role in the world.
    Sources and further reading:
    Candace Rondeaux’s detailed report about the Wagner Group can be found here:
    www.newamerica.org/internatio...
    For a summary of Syria’s ongoing conflict, we recommed this brief overview by CFR:
    www.cfr.org/global-conflict-t...
    If you’d like to understand France’s role in Mali in more depth, check out this Q&A by CSIS:
    www.csis.org/analysis/end-ope...
    And to get a more detailed understanding of Wagner’s arrival in Mali, including additional satellite imagery, check out this CSIS investigation:
    ​​www.csis.org/analysis/trackin...
    For a more in-depth look at the mass grave linked to Wagner Groups in Mali, you can read and watch France 24’s coverage here:
    www.france24.com/en/africa/20...
    This UN report (in French) provides an overview of the human impact the conflict and the Wagner Group have had on civilians in Mali:
    minusma.unmissions.org/sites/...
    You can find the full transcript of the 2017 meeting between Russian president Vladimir Putin and then-president of Sudan Omar Al-Bashar here:
    en.kremlin.ru/events/president...
    This investigation by OCCPR reveals the links between Wagner’s gold mining ties and Sudanese military companies in detail:
    www.occrp.org/en/investigatio...
    To understand how the Wagner Group brands itself and shows up online and around the world, we checked Prigozhin’s telegram account here:
    t.me/concordgroup_official/254
    And Reverse Side of the Medal, the Wagner Group’s unofficial telegram account:
    tlgrm.ru/channels/@rsotmdivision
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  • @a.vidal-rosset8221
    @a.vidal-rosset8221 Рік тому +9086

    For the Wagner massacres in Mali, Wagner and the local military actually blamed the French troops that had just left. What they didn’t expect, was that French military knew Wagner was coming and expected Wagner would takeover their former base so they filmed with surveillance drones, and actually recorded Wagner setting up the massacres

    • @loading2256
      @loading2256 Рік тому +1101

      The French didn't actually fillm the wagner group massacre civilians but they filmed them moving civilian bodies right by the former base to blame the French. As for where they found those bodies...

    • @bumin7095
      @bumin7095 Рік тому +304

      french again taking the L, The passiveness of France surprises me everytime.

    • @HebrewsElevenTwentyFive
      @HebrewsElevenTwentyFive Рік тому +1066

      @@bumin7095 They are not passive. They are milking many West African countries dry as we sit here and type.

    • @bumin7095
      @bumin7095 Рік тому

      @@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive China and Russia taking all the resources while france is pulling away.

    • @bigty5474
      @bigty5474 Рік тому +180

      @@bumin7095 what do you want us to do actually. We didn't have the right to send troops there anymore

  • @teaeternal
    @teaeternal Рік тому +2613

    Private military is just scary in general.

    • @8is
      @8is Рік тому +194

      Not really. They're always kept in check by their respective countries since no state is really willing to give up its military power. They're basically as scary as their home country is authoritarian. If you look at how private militaries eliminated somali piracy, you can see how interlinked it was with the US military, which is why it isn't seen as some scary thing but a necessary action to ensure free trade done partially by private means.

    • @jeltje50
      @jeltje50 Рік тому +245

      Basically modern day warlords.

    • @hmm7258
      @hmm7258 Рік тому

      They are not really private, it is a way for Russia to change wars hundreths kilometers away

    • @nicolasiden4074
      @nicolasiden4074 Рік тому +120

      Well in reality in this case it is not private. It belongs to russian governament, it is private only officially

    • @yanbarbosa8092
      @yanbarbosa8092 Рік тому

      ​@@8is the usa uses it s private companys to among other things foment coup in unfriendly countries so yes it's pretty scary when an imperialist state uses them

  • @KaluMallii
    @KaluMallii 11 місяців тому +229

    This documentary aged well.

  • @akashshah1839
    @akashshah1839 11 місяців тому +134

    As a regular viewer of Vox, I had saved this video to watch later on someday. Today was the day to watch it when Wagner group has threatened Russian military. Coincidentally interesting 🤔

    • @shantodas8184
      @shantodas8184 11 місяців тому +3

      they just played the uno reverse card on russia itself

    • @rishikeshwagh
      @rishikeshwagh 11 місяців тому +3

      Same. I guess that watch later turned into watch now lol

    • @adiraj9198
      @adiraj9198 11 місяців тому

      The real game now begins..a REAL TEST FOR PUTIN!

    • @muhammadzazulirizki1000
      @muhammadzazulirizki1000 11 місяців тому

      Lol. Me too!

    • @nasrullahkanok8313
      @nasrullahkanok8313 11 місяців тому

      Only for 16 hours? LOL

  • @-nomi.-
    @-nomi.- Рік тому +2668

    State-supported corporation with a global reach based on military assets? I guess the methods of the East India Company and its ilk never truly went out of style.

    • @nocapnobs7845
      @nocapnobs7845 Рік тому +51

      It goes way back before the EIC.

    • @lm_b5080
      @lm_b5080 Рік тому +230

      i thought you were talking about the US invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan

    • @abrahamel-gothamy6472
      @abrahamel-gothamy6472 Рік тому

      American corporations too( Dole & Hailburton)! Dutch (Shell) and British (BP)! It’s all bad

    • @Neutralino
      @Neutralino Рік тому +247

      @@lm_b5080 The classic playbook of bringing up these at every single opportunity, regardless of the topic being discussed.

    • @catmonarchist8920
      @catmonarchist8920 Рік тому +12

      Sounds like the knights templar

  • @Neutralino
    @Neutralino Рік тому +2675

    It’s “private” in name only. It’s a way for the Russian government to place blame elsewhere.

    • @wolfgangbr1576
      @wolfgangbr1576 Рік тому +111

      that's simply not true. Wagner is literally blaming the official military for every failure; Prigoshin is publicly portraying himself and his forces as the better alternative than the governmental institutions.

    • @RomanLavandos
      @RomanLavandos Рік тому +2

      @@wolfgangbr1576 opposition in russia that can take prisoners, mobiks, has its own army and wasn't thrown out of the window or drank novichok? navalny wasn't allowed to even have 10% of that before being poisoned and jailed. Yeah, definitely not affiliated with the russian government

    • @DemiG0D23
      @DemiG0D23 Рік тому +216

      @@wolfgangbr1576 And? It's just different branches of the same structure and elements of inner struggle for power. Like arguing you "technically" don't own a shell company because you pay a fee to third party to own it on paper, while you are de facto an owner and issue commands.

    • @Rudy2k5
      @Rudy2k5 Рік тому +42

      Exactly! It's simply a way for the regime to deny any implication in conflict around the world.

    • @VtTraves
      @VtTraves Рік тому

      United states and British are innocents. They have not stollen, sorry steeling resources from another countries. Invaded other countries.

  • @vukadzemovic2375
    @vukadzemovic2375 11 місяців тому +23

    Anyone here after Wagner coup?

  • @ayushsachan1129
    @ayushsachan1129 11 місяців тому +16

    anybody here after Wagner's mutiny?

  • @thePronto
    @thePronto Рік тому +2915

    Interesting how Prigozhin can walk the tightrope of:
    - a legal company doing illegal business, with employees 'paroled' from state prisons
    - not associated with the Russian Ministry of Defense but clearly part of the command structure in Ukraine
    - not being a member of the ruling elite in Russia (Siloviki) but able to criticize them publicly
    It seems clear that if Putin goes, Prigozhin goes too.

    • @Lucas-vd2gx
      @Lucas-vd2gx Рік тому +9

      Up you go sir!

    • @LevSeven_
      @LevSeven_ Рік тому +1

      It's actually a bit more sinister. Prigozhin is taking this publicity, showing that the Wagner group is competent in stark contrast to the rest of the Russian military. His plan isn't to go when Putin goes, Prigozhin's plan is to take over once Putin is ousted.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Рік тому

      He probably goes earlier. Remember everyone claimed that Surkov was the gray cardinal behind putin? Well he's on home arrest now. Before that, Dugin was the media's top putin's rasputin... as irrelevant as he was. Prigozhin was used and will be discarded when he isn't needed.

    • @81OH4Z4RD
      @81OH4Z4RD Рік тому

      If Putin goes i suspect it will be with a Wagner bullet.

    • @johnyj2082
      @johnyj2082 Рік тому +116

      Lie, upon a lie, upon a lie - all contradicting each other. Simply the russian way of living.

  • @ColourBlindHero
    @ColourBlindHero Рік тому +301

    "Vlad have you looked at our our symbol recently?
    I've just been looking at our symbol, it's got a skull on it.
    Vlad, are we the baddies?"😱

    • @matiassam2507
      @matiassam2507 Рік тому +14

      I got that reference HAHA

    • @oasis1282
      @oasis1282 Рік тому +8

      Pirates are fun

    • @aussiejezza
      @aussiejezza Рік тому +9

      You're become the very thing you swore to destroy

    • @vickomen3697
      @vickomen3697 Рік тому +16

      @@aussiejezza Oops! Just don't look at the Ukraininan Azov ones and their Bandera

    • @esanahka9284
      @esanahka9284 Рік тому +34

      @@vickomen3697 And instant whataboutism 😄 You Russian bots just can't argue about anything can you

  • @CivilGun
    @CivilGun 11 місяців тому +15

    Who would've guess wagner was gonna pull a coup.

  • @Jayshiver
    @Jayshiver 11 місяців тому +15

    Well, this is an awkward video to come back to

  • @wizzzer1337
    @wizzzer1337 Рік тому +1354

    We sometimes forget that historically in warfare mercenaries are the the norm rather than the exception. the wars between states being fought almosy exclusively by nationalized militaries is a relatively recent thing.
    Even the greatest Empires of old heavily relied on mercenaries.

    • @dardoura
      @dardoura Рік тому +167

      bro some people were born yesterday and will take this video as a start of a history lesson then go and act as experts. People need to realise that this is one of the many military groups out there and they mainly do it for money and 'favors'. The only difference is, this group has light shed on them. Others are still working in the dark.

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Рік тому +44

      @@dardoura in russia, mercenaries are illegal. The "mercenary" groups you hear about got a special permission from putin, they're effectively just another branch of russian armed force like VDV or Bars reservists.

    • @GCOSBenbow
      @GCOSBenbow Рік тому +63

      Even modern wars are fought mostly with mercenaries it just isn't as publicised. The only partial exception to that would be the second world war as most countries had forced conscription and colonial empires spanning ~80% of the known world. The most notable mercenary group operating in WW2 would be the ghurkhas and even they were treated on paper just like any other regular soldier in the British army (other than the inhuman respect they garnered for their military prowess).

    • @dardoura
      @dardoura Рік тому +19

      @@KasumiRINA War itself is a crime so we can forget what's illegal. There are so called private military groups that you can rent, if you have the money and influence. It's not about nationality, it's politics and business.

    • @mbogucki1
      @mbogucki1 Рік тому +38

      Not really. Most wars were fought by militias or conscripts called upon during times of war.
      In the west the Romans changed all that by creating a professional army along of auxiliary. Other Empires followed.
      During the middle ages it was back to militias and conscripts as no one had the resources or funds for standing armies.
      Then as kingdoms gave way to states and countries it was back to professional armies.
      This is of course an over simplification but mercenaries were rarely the main force used in conflict and usually a supplement.

  • @jiq686
    @jiq686 Рік тому +540

    Wait, Prigozhin was a cater? That was some Netflix worth material

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Рік тому +142

      He is often described by media as "putin's chef" but that's a misnomer. He essentially runs a catering business, yes, but it's the other way around with his company getting government contracts for catering BECAUSE he's friends with putin, and not the other way around. Prigozhin's basically does organized crime that's part of russia state at this point.

    • @MartijnterHaar
      @MartijnterHaar Рік тому +92

      He's a career criminal who spent most of the 80s in jail. After his release he got involved in the types of businesses criminals like, like casinos and restaurants.

    • @vasylisakot
      @vasylisakot Рік тому +13

      @@KasumiRINA , всё так, восхищаюсь вашими познаниями 👍🏻

    • @thePronto
      @thePronto Рік тому

      According to Wiki, he started off his 'catering career' as a street hotdog vendor, probably after he was released from prison (~10 years) for street crime and prostitution. He managed to get Russian government contracts for catering for schools and the Russian Army. He comes from Saint Petersburg, so that is the Putin connection.

    • @laincoubert7236
      @laincoubert7236 Рік тому +23

      yes, russian politics in general is worth writing scripts about lol prigozhin isn't even the most outrageous character in russia's modern history

  • @royalmatarako1092
    @royalmatarako1092 11 місяців тому +11

    Who’s here after they started to turn on Putin

  • @headerbidding
    @headerbidding 11 місяців тому +15

    June 23, 2023. Comment for this historic moment.

  • @elfpr0n
    @elfpr0n Рік тому +471

    Do you have any articles about wagner's operations in indonesia? As an indonesian ive never heard about their activities here.

    • @Claudius8
      @Claudius8 Рік тому +109

      Yea, i'm also surprised when I saw Indonesia on the map

    • @noxtorism
      @noxtorism Рік тому +44

      Tried searching in Google but all i could find were only their activities in Africa but maybe that's because they're more popular there

    • @BreadyToCrumble
      @BreadyToCrumble Рік тому +136

      It's strange that they highlighted Indonesia - If Wagner was around in 1998 I would maybe understand, but not if Wagner was founded after 2014. The only thing I can think of them doing there is providing private security to some Russians, and that's it really. I'd still really like to see a source though.

    • @hambatuhan3165
      @hambatuhan3165 Рік тому +2

      @@BreadyToCrumble same here

    • @1nadjmi1
      @1nadjmi1 Рік тому +175

      VOx is using data from CSIS with title "The Expansion of Russian Private Military Companies" by Brian Katz, Seth G. Jones, Catrina Doxsee, Nicholas Harrington
      September 2020. It highlights Wagner was active in 2016 in Indonesia, eventhough the article did not mention what kind of activities Wagner conducted at the time.

  • @muzzamilsalman4117
    @muzzamilsalman4117 Рік тому +569

    i am here watching from sudan. its really heartbreaking to see that our resources are being wasted while our people are struggling to live day to day.

    • @BigBrotherMars
      @BigBrotherMars Рік тому +42

      Blame the Russians

    • @deontecoleman4582
      @deontecoleman4582 Рік тому

      They're lying Russia and China have they're own resources they don't need Africans resources.

    • @deontecoleman4582
      @deontecoleman4582 Рік тому

      @@BigBrotherMars I didn't even finish the video but they're lying it's vox!

    • @akunajoshua
      @akunajoshua Рік тому +83

      I am not blaming the Russians... The Russians have been very helpful to those who know exactly what is going on...

    • @strauss7151
      @strauss7151 Рік тому +34

      It's an IQ problem. Not anyone else's fault.

  • @penduloustesticularis1202
    @penduloustesticularis1202 11 місяців тому +6

    When the vicious pitbull you raised turns on you. 🤣👍

  • @taquilatricepss
    @taquilatricepss 11 місяців тому +10

    well well well how the table have turned now

  • @jude_the_apostle
    @jude_the_apostle Рік тому +319

    A massive reason you missed and probably the main reason, plausible deniability for the Russian government. Undeclared intervention was the new trend till Putin straight up invaded a country old school style

    • @overlord5068
      @overlord5068 Рік тому +16

      He did nothing wrong.

    • @overlord5068
      @overlord5068 Рік тому +7

      Are you crying?

    • @esanahka9284
      @esanahka9284 Рік тому +60

      @@overlord5068 I don't think he is crying, but i bet moms of about 130k Russians are crying for their dead sons 😄

    • @arslan0115
      @arslan0115 Рік тому +13

      Well, then remember how the US invaded Iraq.

    • @groupb9420
      @groupb9420 Рік тому +2

      @@esanahka9284 do you have links?

  • @intelligent_toaster738
    @intelligent_toaster738 Рік тому +315

    fun fact: in the december of 2021 Prigozhin still denied his affiliance with the Wagner group. He even brought it to court when Alexei Venedictov (head of the independent radio station Echo of Moscow) was sued for 1 million rubles for his accusations of Prigozhin being the founder of the Wagner group. And Im pretty sure its not the only time someone was sued by Prigozhin for that.

    • @magakov99
      @magakov99 Рік тому +12

      independent media/radio stations do not exist

    • @marysartr
      @marysartr Рік тому +2

      It wasn't independent it's actually funded by the US

    • @sergsergo6581
      @sergsergo6581 Рік тому +7

      собака лаешь - ветер несёт

    • @gypsygypsy7185
      @gypsygypsy7185 Рік тому +1

      You mad 🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺

    • @zenith_linear
      @zenith_linear Рік тому

      Also existence of PMC is illegal according to Russian Constitution

  • @alr2157
    @alr2157 Рік тому +592

    Remember Blackwater?
    ...
    It was renamed Xe Services in 2009, and was again renamed Academi in 2011 after it was acquired by a group of private investors. In 2014, Academi merged with Triple Canopy, a subsidiary of Constellis Group. Later, Academi was fully integrated into the parent company, and now operates under the name Constellis.

    • @failuregaming6611
      @failuregaming6611 Рік тому +142

      The media will ensure people won't know about them.

    • @spacemichael9090
      @spacemichael9090 Рік тому

      @@failuregaming6611 every knows about black water and if you go to the Wikipedia page the first thing it says it is now under Constellis. This isn’t some big secret

    • @mohamedissa5676
      @mohamedissa5676 Рік тому

      Its only bad when someone else do it, But when the west do it it is OK

    • @sirlancelot8809
      @sirlancelot8809 Рік тому +162

      Video: about Wagner
      "but but but how about US?"

    • @pedroholsbach8592
      @pedroholsbach8592 Рік тому +156

      @Sir Lancelot It's relevant tho. Russia learned to use mercenaries to maintain a degree of plausible deniability from the US. The US popularized the use of mercenary groups as an extension of their own military in places like Afgjanistan and Iraq

  • @user-nj3sn6pp4v
    @user-nj3sn6pp4v Рік тому +7

    Это они ещё про ЧВК Редан не слышали!

  • @moussasouaibou7041
    @moussasouaibou7041 Рік тому +678

    In Iraq, the American army made massive use of private security companies, such as Xe (ex-Blackwater). The "incident reports" published by WikiLeaks in October 2010, showed that these companies were often involved in incidents that caused the death of civilians.

    • @rdamnitistillexist9189
      @rdamnitistillexist9189 Рік тому +46

      Ok... and

    • @renanfelipedossantos5913
      @renanfelipedossantos5913 Рік тому +40

      Yes, and?

    • @msmarium42
      @msmarium42 Рік тому +188

      Blackwater & Wagner are the same..
      They'll all go unpunished

    • @RedArrow808
      @RedArrow808 Рік тому +28

      Blackrock and the like bring shame to the American people

    • @Pantsinabucket
      @Pantsinabucket Рік тому +100

      Except blackwater wasn’t allowed to recruit prisoners, was nowhere near the size of Wagner, didn’t have heavy equipment, and wasn’t directly controlled by the US government.

  • @gut9941
    @gut9941 Рік тому +56

    I just love it that you use the video description for a list of your sources and for furhter readings!

  • @fistfulhandy
    @fistfulhandy 11 місяців тому +7

    Got back here after Wagner is turning their back against Putin.

  • @bartpiwowarczyk8673
    @bartpiwowarczyk8673 Рік тому +6

    Same like USA with CIA 😂😂😂

  • @Brodzik-kz8nt
    @Brodzik-kz8nt Рік тому +54

    basically it's Blackwater and any potential war crimes can be blamed on the PMC instead of the government

    • @Admiral-General_Aladeen
      @Admiral-General_Aladeen Рік тому +5

      Private mercenaries are also illegal under russian law meaning if wagner would ever become a problem they could just arrest all of them

  • @ThatNorma
    @ThatNorma Рік тому +64

    Many people thought it was only the US doing this lol...

    • @savagepro9060
      @savagepro9060 Рік тому +40

      glad you acknowledge the CIA does it too, and they do it even better

    • @ganymedekaramazenes9273
      @ganymedekaramazenes9273 Рік тому +8

      Blackwater

    • @ceasar8679
      @ceasar8679 Рік тому

      The US doesn't hide its military intervention like putin. Putin sends his shadow army to intervene militarily in other nations

    • @aidenshannahan2466
      @aidenshannahan2466 Рік тому

      The secretive parts of the us does do some immoral things but for the most part don't they do the morally right thing which compared to this Russian group seems like it's all very very immoral

    • @ceasar8679
      @ceasar8679 Рік тому +1

      @@aidenshannahan2466 don't forget to count the secretive deeds of Russia from the soviet times. Genocides, deportations and ethnic cleansing

  • @MarioDude34500
    @MarioDude34500 11 місяців тому +7

    Well this video got more interesting suddenly

  • @Scwarzkop
    @Scwarzkop 11 місяців тому +6

    Update: They've mutinied against the Russians

  • @albinjohnsson2511
    @albinjohnsson2511 Рік тому +42

    It's closer to "Vaagner" than "Waggner". It's a German name and Germanic languages pronounce W as an English V.

    • @Mariusmjvr
      @Mariusmjvr Рік тому

      English is a Germanic language.

    • @sadface7457
      @sadface7457 Рік тому +2

      They cannot pronounce the name which is like a tell they haven't done their due diligence

  • @superhero38923
    @superhero38923 Рік тому +7

    it's actually funny to hear all this from Americans and Europeans ...

  • @n00n1n
    @n00n1n Рік тому +3

    Everybody needs to start calling Putin: Vladimir Pooping... Lol

  • @colinyuan5404
    @colinyuan5404 Рік тому +21

    Would like to see some introduction to US private companies like black water

  • @Smoothie--oy8ri
    @Smoothie--oy8ri Рік тому +297

    I know this might be nitpicking, but the Wagner Group is supposed to be pronounced with a "v" sound, not a "w" sound. The group got it's name from the German composer Richard Wagner. In addition, in Cyrillic it is spelled as "Группа Вагнера" and the "В" in Russian sounds exactly like an English "v".

    • @logat1847
      @logat1847 Рік тому +5

      Why’d they name themselves after Wagner?

    • @AndreaFasani
      @AndreaFasani Рік тому +133

      @@logat1847 wagner was loved by a certain political movement with the passion for swastikas.

    • @AndreaFasani
      @AndreaFasani Рік тому +36

      So annoying every time she repeats that

    • @alexanderherzog3064
      @alexanderherzog3064 Рік тому +25

      Yeah. I hate when people mispronounce easily pronounced words that they should be able to fact check on

    • @calvincostic
      @calvincostic Рік тому +44

      You're not wrong, but I think there's a decent argument to be made that the "w" sound is just part of the English translation of the name. Kind of like how nobody pronounces Volkswagen as the true German "folksvagen"

  • @joshuawilliams8841
    @joshuawilliams8841 Рік тому +704

    Phenomenal video Vox. Glad someone is illuminating this issue.

    • @jubbyquarkret4262
      @jubbyquarkret4262 Рік тому +39

      Bot

    • @arnavsharma1877
      @arnavsharma1877 Рік тому +1

      @@jubbyquarkret4262 they dont know about mosaic

    • @CrimsonAlchemist
      @CrimsonAlchemist Рік тому +47

      Sounds exactly like Black Water 😅 sponsored by US government

    • @vasylisakot
      @vasylisakot Рік тому +1

      Привет пригожинские тролли 👋🏻😅

    • @bloodlove93
      @bloodlove93 Рік тому +1

      sureeeeee...minus the abortion that is the pronunciation of wagner.
      forget the modern military force,look back at the musical composer, both pronounced vogner

  • @whitespring_
    @whitespring_ Рік тому +5

    So basically like Black Water?

  • @narrowpie
    @narrowpie 11 місяців тому +6

    I'm here because of the current situation in Russia.

  • @obamasglock
    @obamasglock Рік тому +358

    I'm surprised they didn't mention Wagner troops openly attacking an American base in Syria. Wagner suffered a humiliating defeat, but it shows their willingness to do so.

    • @german_novotiable
      @german_novotiable Рік тому +19

      after that, their troops made a revenge in South America

    • @GeorgeFafa
      @GeorgeFafa Рік тому +80

      sources, evidence. or shut up.

    • @felixkepler6871
      @felixkepler6871 Рік тому +157

      You're saying it like the American base somewhere is good and legitimate.

    • @AntonSobyanin
      @AntonSobyanin Рік тому

      Can you tell me what the Americans are doing in Syria? Who invited them there? Oh, that's right, nobody. Nobody wants Americans in Syria.

    • @GAFloppa
      @GAFloppa Рік тому +12

      Nobody seems to know about the incident with the Hind and the British peacekeepers in Mali too

  • @lukemaher7901
    @lukemaher7901 Рік тому +48

    This video isn’t nearly long enough.

    • @nedisahonkey
      @nedisahonkey Рік тому +4

      I agree. Sometimes Vox's focus on short foucsed videos is a detriment. Their is a lot more they could have examined both with Wagner and with the widers use of PMCs around the world.

    • @deontecoleman4582
      @deontecoleman4582 Рік тому +3

      @@nedisahonkey blackwater Is worse than wagner.

  • @jamesward5721
    @jamesward5721 Рік тому +59

    Supplying mercenary troops is one of the oldest businesses on earth. In past centuries, the Swiss were one of the most feared mercenaries - they decided most European conflicts depending on which side they chose to work for. Other feared mercenaries were the Russian-Germans - the Kriegers - or "Mercenary warriors" - their entire culture base was hiring soldiers to governments that needed muscle.
    This ^ is nothing new - it is an ancient business based on extreme violence for hire.

    • @Brucebanner1432
      @Brucebanner1432 11 місяців тому +1

      Even turks were very good mercenaries, probably one of the best in the world.

  • @neenabzamro3759
    @neenabzamro3759 11 місяців тому +13

    funny how Wagner suddenly became the villain and first in the history of humankind as a private killing machine while Britain, US, and the rest of Europe had similar companies hundreds of years ago with the same or actually worse mission.

  • @Bloodmuffin6
    @Bloodmuffin6 Рік тому +292

    Would be great to see a comparison with US companies like Blackwater

    • @someoneniice
      @someoneniice Рік тому +37

      Conflict Intelligence Team's Ruslan Leviev often points out that Wagner group cannot be seen as a private military company in a traditional way. His argument is that PMCs in general are actually armed security forces, which often operate in conflict zones. They deliver military cargos and provide, well, guardsmen services for bases etc, but stay out of actual military action. Whereas wagners are all about combat, offensives, killings and so on. So Ruslan concludes, that wg is a mercenary organization in the worst sense of this concept.

    • @nedisahonkey
      @nedisahonkey Рік тому +73

      Exactly. Wagner is worse but Black Rock/Academi/Constellis is sickening in their own right and completely homegrown. The fact that they have to change their name every couple years to deflect criticism is clear evidence of their malfeasance.

    • @sevenoxia7199
      @sevenoxia7199 Рік тому

      @@nedisahonkey The fact that their criticised proves the point that the US is a free nation, while Russia is stuck in the war mongering past.

    • @Mcbignuts
      @Mcbignuts Рік тому

      @@someoneniice a mercenary company that doesnt fight isn't a mercenary company, it's a corrupt scam that functions as a front for greedy ppl to pocket money
      Wagner is a true mercenary company

    • @evin4875
      @evin4875 Рік тому +2

      Blackwater doesn't exist anymore

  • @Amazombe
    @Amazombe Рік тому +301

    I'd love to hear about private military forces of other countries as well!

    • @ackiid
      @ackiid Рік тому +56

      No. Russia bad mkey

    • @navaryn2938
      @navaryn2938 Рік тому +39

      nothing happened in Nisour Square in september 16 2007

    • @VMohdude-
      @VMohdude- Рік тому +16

      @@navaryn2938and Wagner has done nisour square times a hundred recently. And how many of them had Russia imprisoned? At the U.S jailed four guys responsible for nisour square.

    • @MrDaol23
      @MrDaol23 Рік тому +3

      ​@@ackiid yeah it is

    • @GriboedovAnton
      @GriboedovAnton Рік тому +14

      nowadays rasha bad, so sry, try to come back later.

  • @chopdoublenine6946
    @chopdoublenine6946 Рік тому +3

    Very interesting, keep up the good work!

  • @Beds58157
    @Beds58157 11 місяців тому +7

    Who is here 24.06.2023?

    • @heynowur9146
      @heynowur9146 11 місяців тому

      Me

    • @cluster4583
      @cluster4583 11 місяців тому +2

      Wait I didn't realize the coup started on the 24th pretty funny considering the war started in the 24th of feb

  • @clercfred
    @clercfred Рік тому +117

    Unfortunately I think that many people living in non western countries feel like a similar video could be made about the US private military sector...

    • @_M4X15
      @_M4X15 Рік тому +18

      They have made videos about blackwater

    • @MultiNike79
      @MultiNike79 Рік тому

      USA "private" companies are very criminal. If only verbal accusations from the Anglo-Saxons can be found about Wagner, then the war crimes of American mercenaries are fully documented in photos and videos.

    • @lakshkarkera4661
      @lakshkarkera4661 Рік тому

      they wont coz prpoganda

    • @sevenoxia7199
      @sevenoxia7199 Рік тому +13

      Except the US government condemns most of these groups and never held the shear size that Wagner does today and were mostly used for logistics, not murdering whole towns.

    • @lakshkarkera4661
      @lakshkarkera4661 Рік тому +31

      @@sevenoxia7199 well that's what the government is telling you

  • @elizabethdavis1696
    @elizabethdavis1696 Рік тому +122

    Please do a video on the Ohio train derailment!

    • @marsel8718
      @marsel8718 Рік тому +39

      You will never see this, democracy ✌🏻

    • @biswaranjanpanigrahy98
      @biswaranjanpanigrahy98 Рік тому +3

      As usual things in usa

    • @thl205
      @thl205 Рік тому +3

      Type it into your UA-cam search bar.

    • @haikalhadzik7744
      @haikalhadzik7744 Рік тому +3

      Nothing happened in Ohio, china tianmen playbook.

    • @Kay-td2fc
      @Kay-td2fc Рік тому +2

      what train... Oh look, is that a UFO in the sky

  • @LinkStarer
    @LinkStarer 11 місяців тому +6

    this aged well

  • @aleksamiskovic9931
    @aleksamiskovic9931 Рік тому +3

    A quick question.What is the difference between this and what America is doing for over 60 years?

  • @xavierrenger
    @xavierrenger Рік тому +15

    So you're telling me that the guy from the Kremlin's cafeteria is now running military cov-ops in Ukraine? 💀💀

  • @mangeshadbale4337
    @mangeshadbale4337 Рік тому +58

    I think such groups are also present in US .and they where active in Afghanistan.

    • @abrahambanat5990
      @abrahambanat5990 Рік тому +25

      Yup, Blackwater, Academi, and the other PMCs in America

    • @DogeickBateman
      @DogeickBateman Рік тому +9

      @@abrahambanat5990 Academi is Blackwater, they took a rebranding after their ah not so cashmoney actions in Iraq

    • @faissal8997
      @faissal8997 Рік тому +21

      America is exceptional as usual. Americans call them "private military contractors", but in Russia's case they call them mercenaries.

    • @DogeickBateman
      @DogeickBateman Рік тому +1

      @@faissal8997 Blah blah america this america that the term was invented by Brits in the late 1980s

    • @faissal8997
      @faissal8997 Рік тому +9

      @@DogeickBateman who is talking about the term?

  • @fernandoferreira5156
    @fernandoferreira5156 Рік тому +7

    US: "Russian army is bad"
    also us: "Wagner group is scary"

    • @WWhiteRunGuard
      @WWhiteRunGuard Рік тому +1

      The Wagner PMCs have better equipment, but tougher rules. Deserted or did not go on the attack - execution with a sledgehammer.

    • @Targaryennn
      @Targaryennn Рік тому

      US Army is good then?

  • @evannehmadi9437
    @evannehmadi9437 Рік тому +2

    Great journalism, Vox! Keep it up!

  • @TrokgornyBall
    @TrokgornyBall Рік тому +78

    It's funny that Russian law also says that if a mercenary fights in the interests of Russia, then he is no longer a mercenary. This gap in Russian legislation essentially legitimizes the activities of mercenaries.

    • @marysartr
      @marysartr Рік тому +7

      It's not a gap it specifically excludes PMCs that help the state.

    • @user-ms2go7fn2d
      @user-ms2go7fn2d Рік тому

      show me it

    • @TrokgornyBall
      @TrokgornyBall Рік тому +7

      @@user-ms2go7fn2d Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Article 359 - Mercenary. Point 3.Note. A mercenary is a person who acts in order to receive material reward and is not a citizen of *a state participating in an armed conflict* or hostilities, who does not permanently reside on its territory, and who is not a person sent to perform official duties.

    • @abelrozario2073
      @abelrozario2073 Рік тому

      Same goes for America

    • @GriboedovAnton
      @GriboedovAnton Рік тому

      @@abelrozario2073 russia bad, so hush!

  • @goblinzaku6211
    @goblinzaku6211 Рік тому +70

    Hey vox just a heads up: In “private military corps”, the corps part is pronounced as “core” not “corpse”.

    • @AntonAdelson
      @AntonAdelson Рік тому +13

      Thanks! Also, Wagner is pronounced as Vagner.

    • @m315p
      @m315p Рік тому +14

      @@AntonAdelson Wagner is pronounced as “corpse”

    • @Crudeliciousbops
      @Crudeliciousbops Рік тому

      The spelling says otherwise but ok.

    • @sb_dunk
      @sb_dunk Рік тому +2

      ​@@AntonAdelson Yeah but we don't say Moskva for Moscow or Varshava for Warsaw, some things have common English pronunciations.

  • @MistRVertexZ
    @MistRVertexZ Рік тому +4

    Media when blackwater: :-)
    media when wagner: >:(

  • @Steven-bd1fv
    @Steven-bd1fv Рік тому +11

    Glory to PMC Wagner!

  • @benjaminvanderlund9522
    @benjaminvanderlund9522 Рік тому +9

    USA invents Blackwater private military, Russia goes, OK we do the same. USA: hey thats not fair

  • @safe-keeper1042
    @safe-keeper1042 Рік тому +4

    :reads comments sorted by Newest first:
    Wow, the Russian trolls really didn't like this one.

    • @SeregaBas
      @SeregaBas Рік тому

      И об этом говорят жители страны США которая гораздо больше плохого натворила чем Россия. Чему они удивляются что соледар разрушен по их мнению если там идёт война значит там всё должно быть в целым?

  • @deadlyninja6214
    @deadlyninja6214 Рік тому +48

    Fun fact: Wagner group has a Military base in my home country (Argentina) due to Argentina and Russias relationship.

    • @markok0610
      @markok0610 Рік тому +1

      Donde? Nombre?

    • @user-qm5kl9vf4l
      @user-qm5kl9vf4l Рік тому +5

      good.

    • @deadlyninja6214
      @deadlyninja6214 Рік тому +1

      @@markok0610 El gobierno se clasificó al respecto ya que no quieren ser conocidos por posibles agentes de la CIA.

    • @zg64
      @zg64 Рік тому +2

      Ronaldo better

    • @SportZFan4L1fe
      @SportZFan4L1fe Рік тому

      Argentina is about to join BRICS so that its economy won't collapse every ten years.

  • @chandima94
    @chandima94 11 місяців тому +5

    This video bout to blow up

  • @BaronAnon
    @BaronAnon Рік тому +86

    Wagner also isn't the only private military group in Russia, although the most notorious at the moment.

    • @deontecoleman4582
      @deontecoleman4582 Рік тому +14

      What about blackwater haven't they committed war crimes also?

    • @sugandesenuds6663
      @sugandesenuds6663 Рік тому +26

      @@deontecoleman4582 what does blackwater have to do with anything?

    • @user-ge6eh3fg2b
      @user-ge6eh3fg2b Рік тому +33

      @@deontecoleman4582 and what about your whatabout, whataboutist. Noone even mentioned Blackwater or am i blind?

    • @ericisdead95
      @ericisdead95 Рік тому +13

      Lol why are you guys suddenly so defensive when someone mentions another pmc group?? Lol 😂

    • @code6499
      @code6499 Рік тому +16

      @@ericisdead95 not really defensive, it just doesn't have any correlation to the original comment.

  • @savikone
    @savikone Рік тому +33

    3:33 it was stated that the group was deployed to my country Indonesia, but when it did deployed? I did not see one the streets nor heard one on the news, at least in my area.

    • @Eonclaire
      @Eonclaire Рік тому

      western nonsense as usual. Pretty sure US troops are all over the world instead of this Wagner group

    • @vaesnavadevaadhyatma9400
      @vaesnavadevaadhyatma9400 Рік тому +7

      Me too. I'm so confuse about the Indonesia one. Paid Soldier is illegal in Indonesia. Gun, military activity is a government only. There has been no proof of Wegner Existence in Indonesia

    • @tychay
      @tychay Рік тому +11

      Not all Wagner does is military. My guess is their presence in Indonesia is related to banking/money laundering or training paramilitary forces (Indonesia has a sizable one in the latter), but I didn't look closely. It's believed that Progozhin has close ties to the country.

    • @1Shapic1
      @1Shapic1 Рік тому

      American satellites caught them on vacation there, don't mind.

    • @antoinette5152
      @antoinette5152 Рік тому +3

      The Same for South Africa? And we know they definitely not looting here.

  • @harithhumam4372
    @harithhumam4372 Рік тому +3

    Basically same as US troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and many more

  • @AJ-et3vf
    @AJ-et3vf Рік тому

    Great video. Thank you

  • @Handle35667
    @Handle35667 Рік тому +5

    I keep seeing people bring up Blackwater…
    The U.S. has all of the U.S. military to use as a private and completely unaccountable military force. Blackwater is irrelevant.
    The analogous force to Wagner in the U.S. is the U.S. military.

  • @TolzXaarghaart
    @TolzXaarghaart Рік тому +94

    The oddly Spanish pronounciation of Soledar did catch me of guard at 0:05

    • @danilshchukin1849
      @danilshchukin1849 Рік тому +43

      It's a Russian/Ukranian pronunciation, not the Spanish one, they just sound similar cause of the R sound which is kinda the same for both of them.

    • @hrsmp
      @hrsmp Рік тому +16

      It's correct pronounciation.

    • @MaisonPreston
      @MaisonPreston Рік тому +1

      yeah i didn't notice at first but now i feel that Spanish spin to it with a long r sound 😁

    • @sadyakubovich
      @sadyakubovich Рік тому +6

      @@danilshchukin1849 the soft "D" makes it sound spanish though

    • @worldoftancraft
      @worldoftancraft Рік тому +1

      @@danilshchukin1849 the famous Ukraîna or Rossiâ's month "ogust" - not something like "avgust".

  • @omaralgobory7216
    @omaralgobory7216 Рік тому +3

    Just like black water wow

  • @motivationandtravelchannel4575
    @motivationandtravelchannel4575 9 місяців тому +4

    Russia has Wagner Group and America has CIA and Delta Force!

    • @evan106.
      @evan106. 9 місяців тому +1

      and blackwater!

    • @DY-ij3ch
      @DY-ij3ch 9 місяців тому

      Russian has Alfa Group and GRU

    • @brrrrrtenjoyer
      @brrrrrtenjoyer 9 місяців тому +1

      Delta Force aren't mercenaries. Blackwater are.

    • @marko_6500
      @marko_6500 9 місяців тому

      and NATO

  • @Dangermaniac206
    @Dangermaniac206 Рік тому +31

    Where have I seen this before? Oh yes, Blackwater Mercenaries !

    • @grimsobad8545
      @grimsobad8545 Рік тому +7

      You mean Blackwater?

    • @IagoVital
      @IagoVital Рік тому +4

      @@grimsobad8545 Yes, he meant that one.
      Which has recently been renamed Constellis.

    • @Dangermaniac206
      @Dangermaniac206 Рік тому

      @@grimsobad8545 Lol yes it’s Blackwater, I had my mind somewhere else 😂

    • @grimsobad8545
      @grimsobad8545 Рік тому

      @@IagoVital oh that’s interesting!

  • @Anarcath
    @Anarcath Рік тому +8

    Great reporting.

  • @SlashnKashmir
    @SlashnKashmir 11 місяців тому +4

    I am not sure whether this video aged well

  • @twmetall
    @twmetall Рік тому +2

    So the he next video should be about PMC Blackwater i guess....?)

  • @deproissant
    @deproissant Рік тому +27

    Wait, where in Indonesia are they? Russia are very much revered by general Indonesians who pay the tiniest bit of attention to global politics, but I'm not sure these same people would look at them fondly if they have private militias in their own backyard.

  • @EmilIrgi18
    @EmilIrgi18 Рік тому +40

    Can I have a source on Wagner Group's presence in Indonesia? I'm pretty surprised that they are/were here.

    • @Tab1300
      @Tab1300 Рік тому +7

      All I can find is an FBI report that says wagner has interests in the region, if I would have a guess it's to train militants or possibly recruitment.

    • @grimsobad8545
      @grimsobad8545 Рік тому +4

      @@Tab1300 dude, train militants? 😂 Indonesia seems to be a very stable developing country

    • @EmilIrgi18
      @EmilIrgi18 Рік тому +1

      @@Tab1300 Any links to the source?

    • @kentershackle1329
      @kentershackle1329 Рік тому +2

      @@Tab1300
      Yup, typical smearing...
      Indonesia military uses lots of ex Soviets / Russian weapons..
      These wagners are technical support staff..

    • @louiskuypers550
      @louiskuypers550 Рік тому +3

      @@grimsobad8545 How about Papua huh? And the growing threat of terrorism?

  • @melissasalasblair5273
    @melissasalasblair5273 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for the segment. 2:30 sums it up lol

  • @adrianianov6872
    @adrianianov6872 11 місяців тому +3

    This aged well...😬

  • @paulroque
    @paulroque Рік тому +4

    Also feature US and French private armies 💀🥴

  • @gfygber9639
    @gfygber9639 Рік тому +44

    It's so sad everyone, even Mercenaries are exploiting African resources for their own good, resources that belong to the people but they are incapable of using and benefiting from them.

  • @user-dj1lh1ty4t
    @user-dj1lh1ty4t Рік тому +5

    I love the way when Vox talks about the annexation of Crimea, and then few minutes later draws an incorrect map of Russian Federation without part of Krasnodar Krai (4:32)

  • @ado4224
    @ado4224 Рік тому

    Great video, the first 10seconds were too surfrace level though

  • @ZaavanMusic
    @ZaavanMusic Рік тому +50

    Do Blackwater, DynCorp, FDG Corp. next

  • @MFS990
    @MFS990 Рік тому +4

    Wait... Isn't America are just same?

  • @dalexandus
    @dalexandus Рік тому

    Love you're videos

  • @kapyshpavellazerkong2366
    @kapyshpavellazerkong2366 Рік тому +5

    2:20 это что за покемооон )))))

    • @bez_zdachi
      @bez_zdachi Рік тому +2

      Трансформер)))

    • @bez_zdachi
      @bez_zdachi Рік тому +2

      Типо трансвестит 😂😂😂

    • @dog5653
      @dog5653 Рік тому +1

      Трансгендер воин

  • @kotIetukas
    @kotIetukas Рік тому +11

    I think attribution of 2014 invasion to wagner could be awfully inaccurate. Russia rented military bases in crimea and most likelly used own regular troops for the invasion.

    • @ultimatefriikki
      @ultimatefriikki Рік тому

      The spottings of Zoopark vehicles in Ukraine in ~2015 kinda points me to believe they were actual russian military

  • @shimMakepeace
    @shimMakepeace Рік тому +30

    Literally the French, British and most other Western countries have been doing this for centuries in Africa and Asia.

    • @herohero-fw1vc
      @herohero-fw1vc Рік тому +4

      Even the US.....Western countries would also use missionaries too.

    • @personazhe
      @personazhe Рік тому

      So what? Does this justify the crimes of the russians in some way?

    • @senanb1
      @senanb1 Рік тому +1

      @@herohero-fw1vc Religious missionaires are not the same as private military. The west has used private militaries in Africa and middle east, but that's different from missionaries

  • @daddy7973
    @daddy7973 11 місяців тому +3

    How can a private military even exist? This is joke.

    • @gerardanderson9665
      @gerardanderson9665 11 місяців тому +5

      Have you heard of Blackwater PMC?

    • @penduloustesticularis1202
      @penduloustesticularis1202 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@gerardanderson9665
      They're no longer Blackwater. They're now known as Executive Outcomes.

    • @hour7141
      @hour7141 11 місяців тому +1

      they’ve existed for centuries wym?

    • @daddy7973
      @daddy7973 11 місяців тому

      @@hour7141 They should not. What if they go mad? It's like legalizing a gang who can harm the country any time.

    • @sloth316
      @sloth316 11 місяців тому

      @@daddy7973so no different from all governments then…

  • @Annisa_Cahya
    @Annisa_Cahya 11 місяців тому +1

    At 3:28 why you colouring indonesia as the one that may have ties with wagner group? Someone can point out what battles or war in there?

  • @o.cheburek
    @o.cheburek Рік тому +5

    The fact that Wagner was Hitler's favorite composer is no more than a coincidence.😜

    • @aussiejezza
      @aussiejezza Рік тому +2

      The fact the SS and Wagner have skull badge isn't one either

  • @goekhanbag
    @goekhanbag Рік тому +4

    This is literal Metal Gear Solid in real life.

    • @deordered.
      @deordered. Рік тому

      Couldn't have said it any better!

  • @younes-47
    @younes-47 Рік тому +2

    Merryweather in real life.

  • @cittatresnati8232
    @cittatresnati8232 Рік тому +5

    Totally didn't expect to see Indonesia up there, never heard anything about Wagner group activity in my home country, wondering what is their source

  • @chriswong8659
    @chriswong8659 Рік тому +8

    Really good! More please

  • @helloitsme3
    @helloitsme3 Рік тому +21

    Guys,
    1:10 you say in 2014 they annexed
    1:15 you say that a year later, little green men came in, and you show march of 2014

    • @KasumiRINA
      @KasumiRINA Рік тому

      Yeah attempted annexation was following the illegal occupation by russian green men, of course, not the other way around.

    • @unmastered6154
      @unmastered6154 Рік тому +1

      I noticed that too. The little green men were instrumental in the Crimea annexation

    • @MadBlissOff
      @MadBlissOff Рік тому

      @@unmastered6154 Why is the separation of Kosovo legal, and the separation of Crimea, given that a referendum was held with observers from different countries, is annexation? Because the "civilized" world decided so?

    • @MaximTsyba
      @MaximTsyba Рік тому +2

      @@MadBlissOff Because referendum, forced by armed unmarked men who intervened from another country, can not be considered legit in any way. And who are these "observers from other countries" you were referencing to? Especially considering that so-called "referendum" happened within just a few days after russian soldiers' invasion?

    • @unmastered6154
      @unmastered6154 Рік тому +2

      @@MadBlissOff In Crimea, Russia violated the first principle of international law - that countries may not acquire territory or change borders by force. Russia's actions flagrantly violated its own international commitments including in: Article 2 of the United Nations Charter, the Helsinki Final Act and the Budapest memorandum. The 'little green men' took hostage of Ukrainian military bases on the peninsula and forced them to give up their weapons 'or else'.
      In terms of Kosovo, the people of Kosovo had the right to self-determination and secession from Serbia because the Belgrade authorities systematically violated civil and human rights of Albanians for years. International law thus allows the proclamation of Kosovo's independence. Heard of the Yugoslav wars? In the late 90's, Serbian officials routinely carried out massacres of ethnic Albanians in the region to 'purify' its land. Not even comparable to the Ukrainian situation.

  • @SA-3270
    @SA-3270 Рік тому +7

    @Vox Could you also do a video on the issues discussed in John Perkins book 'The Confessions of an Economic Hitman" and explain how this is different from what the US is doing and has been doing for a long time?

  • @GeographyForDev
    @GeographyForDev 11 місяців тому +5

    Aged well.