Fun fact: Adam Basil, the actor who played the Bloater in this Episode is 6'6 Foot Tall (1.95 cm), and the full Bloater suit weight is at least 80 Pounds (40 Kg).
You guys are in foe a wils ride. I played this since 2013. I replayed this game alot and I also love the changes. It just works for television. But man.... even if you know what's coming.... it still hits hard if not harder sometimes. What I love about this story is the fact that it's brutal and ugly with small moments of beauty elevated by the beautiful guitar picking of gustavo santonella. The intimate moments are what made the game great and I'm happy the show really focuses on the intimate moments keeping things small. It's just very compelling storytelling. I know I will not feel happy after watching this show. But some odd reason... THAT'S WHAT KEEPS ME COMING BACK FOR MORE. Everybody who loves this show is a masochist and I love you guys for it! You earned a sub. I'm dying to see you react to more episodes.
I liked the changes they made in this episode with regards to Sam & Henry's story. I remember that I somewhat disliked Henry at some point in the game because of how he left Ellie behind when they were being chased. The choice to make Sam deaf/mute + the casting also made him seem way more innocent than the game character in my opinion & made that inevitable ending way more gut wrenching. The whole time I knew it was coming but I was hoping that they would somehow have a surprise for us & keep them alive cause Joel & Ellie especially could've used a bit more company 😕
That was so rough. I cried just like you, Amber. I knew from the game what happens but I was hoping it would turn out differently. And idk something about it being live action and knowing Sam’s background and history made it even more emotional than the game did. Well, here’s to hoping we won’t need tissues next episode lol! 😅
If you’ve ever played DAYS GONE. that scene of mass infected reminded me of the hordes. The big one was a bloater I think , the one that ripped the dudes head off.
Dude ... the child clicker jumped on Kathleen at the end. That's exactly how newts jump you in days gone... KID INFECTED ARE THE WORST. I also like the days gone freakers... they also not "undead zombies". They behave like animals , hordes have migration patterns, they feed on humans and animals. And they are fast. Freakers and infected are my favourite zombie type. (I know they are not zombies)
The show/game is all about love. Love in all forms and variants in the absolute good and worst. What we are willing to do or sacrifice for it and what we are not. The third episode was also a character drawing of Joel, even though Bill and Frank were the protagonists. Bill and Joel have excluded all the people around them. Bill showed the way Joel could go if he let people into his life again. But while Bill was going that way, Joel was still stuck there. Ellie and Joel switch sides at the end. That was the Tess moment from episode 2. Ellie runs ahead while Joel is still waiting at the grave. Tess gave Joel a mission he wanted to fulfill as her last wish. The relationship that Joel had with Tess was similar to Ellie and Sam. Ellie promised (unspoken with hope) Sam the cure here and couldn't keep this promise. She now wants to make sure that this never happens again. As Tess said at the time "save who you can save". Ellie really has a mission now. Indirectly get through her feelings of guilt. She wants her blood to work. Before that, she was someone who had no control over anything. Others have determined where she grows up and where she has to go now. "I didn't ask for this" were her words in episode 2. Now that has changed. Now conviction plays a role and she takes control. She wants to save the world so that there are no more Sam's. And while Joel gradually finds his humanity again and lets people into his life again, Ellie loses a little more of herself and she takes the lead here in the end. I think the series showed that more clearly in this way than the game did. In addition, Ellie and Joel have reached a new level of connection with each other. Wordless understanding. Both wanted to save the brothers during the attack. That wasn't Joel's "don't do it Ellie" look. That was the look "I'll give you fire protection Ellie". And Ellie has absolute confidence in Joel. There was also a little joke about the game. The moment when the sniper shot and Henry and Sam senselessly ran out of cover, only to return immediately. This is how Ellie behaved very often in the game. She ran out of cover, right in front of the enemy and then back again. Kathleen kills traitors. This is not the point that makes her particularly malicious. That's what you do with traitors. The people who betray their own people are worse than the enemy himself. You see the enemy coming, traitors shoot you in the back. And you have to assume, if you let them live, that they will do it again at any time. In the history of all revolutions, very few have ended bloodlessly, and very few have left their enemies alive after their victory. They were lynched. So nothing happens here that hasn't happened 1000 times before. In addition, there are no more laws. The only thing Kathleen does differently here is that her focus is exclusively on revenge on Henry and unfortunately at the expense of everyone else in her group. She was a good leader for the revolution, but when that was done, someone else would have had to take over. And, of course, she was a deviant, reluctant person. In the end, unfortunately, she was right. You cannot "fuck with fate". Henry sold all his people and the revolution for medicines, killed indirect a good and important man and Sam died anyway. This by his own hand. It doesn't get any worse. On the other hand, if Sam hadn't betrayed the leader, the revolution had never come, because the leader lacked the radicalism his sister had. It's just a loose loose situation. Misfortune on all sides, no matter how you spin it. I felt Kathleen's death was fitting. I mean she made it clear beforehand that she didn't care about children (wtf) and was then killed by a child clicker. An interesting feature of the show so far is that real brutality is only shown to us when Ellie sees it. We see Joel beating the soldier to death in episode 1 because Ellie is there and sees it. Ellie tortures and kills the stalker in episode 3. We see Joel's sniper kills because Ellie sees them. We see Henry's death, Sam being shot and Kathleen's death. With all other killings (Old Sniper, Bryan) you only hear it because the camera is focused on Ellie while she doesn't see these killings herself. I found it really good to make Sam deaf. In the end, this opened the door for Sam to show Ellie the bite and then she could stay in the room with him without being attacked. He simply didn't hear her. Better than solved in the game and has given Ellie even more depth. She really hoped she could help Sam at that moment. In the game, Sam said nothing about his bite. Ellie entered his room the next morning and was attacked.
Fun fact: Adam Basil, the actor who played the Bloater in this Episode is 6'6 Foot Tall (1.95 cm), and the full Bloater suit weight is at least 80 Pounds (40 Kg).
this show has been absolutely brilliant. I am so happy y’all are reacting to it
You guys are in foe a wils ride. I played this since 2013. I replayed this game alot and I also love the changes. It just works for television.
But man.... even if you know what's coming.... it still hits hard if not harder sometimes.
What I love about this story is the fact that it's brutal and ugly with small moments of beauty elevated by the beautiful guitar picking of gustavo santonella.
The intimate moments are what made the game great and I'm happy the show really focuses on the intimate moments keeping things small. It's just very compelling storytelling. I know I will not feel happy after watching this show. But some odd reason... THAT'S WHAT KEEPS ME COMING BACK FOR MORE.
Everybody who loves this show is a masochist and I love you guys for it!
You earned a sub. I'm dying to see you react to more episodes.
I liked the changes they made in this episode with regards to Sam & Henry's story. I remember that I somewhat disliked Henry at some point in the game because of how he left Ellie behind when they were being chased. The choice to make Sam deaf/mute + the casting also made him seem way more innocent than the game character in my opinion & made that inevitable ending way more gut wrenching. The whole time I knew it was coming but I was hoping that they would somehow have a surprise for us & keep them alive cause Joel & Ellie especially could've used a bit more company 😕
Bless you amber it got me too. 😢 But the exact thing happens In the game. Thus show is awesome
That was so rough. I cried just like you, Amber. I knew from the game what happens but I was hoping it would turn out differently. And idk something about it being live action and knowing Sam’s background and history made it even more emotional than the game did. Well, here’s to hoping we won’t need tissues next episode lol! 😅
It was absolutely heartbreaking. Gosh I hope we don't need tissues next episode. We need a break HBO. Lol - Amber
If you’ve ever played DAYS GONE. that scene of mass infected reminded me of the hordes. The big one was a bloater I think , the one that ripped the dudes head off.
Dude ... the child clicker jumped on Kathleen at the end. That's exactly how newts jump you in days gone... KID INFECTED ARE THE WORST.
I also like the days gone freakers... they also not "undead zombies". They behave like animals , hordes have migration patterns, they feed on humans and animals. And they are fast.
Freakers and infected are my favourite zombie type. (I know they are not zombies)
Prepare yourselves. It's a brutal story.
big boy gonna big boy
The show/game is all about love. Love in all forms and variants in the absolute good and worst. What we are willing to do or sacrifice for it and what we are not.
The third episode was also a character drawing of Joel, even though Bill and Frank were the protagonists. Bill and Joel have excluded all the people around them. Bill showed the way Joel could go if he let people into his life again. But while Bill was going that way, Joel was still stuck there.
Ellie and Joel switch sides at the end. That was the Tess moment from episode 2. Ellie runs ahead while Joel is still waiting at the grave. Tess gave Joel a mission he wanted to fulfill as her last wish.
The relationship that Joel had with Tess was similar to Ellie and Sam. Ellie promised (unspoken with hope) Sam the cure here and couldn't keep this promise. She now wants to make sure that this never happens again. As Tess said at the time "save who you can save".
Ellie really has a mission now. Indirectly get through her feelings of guilt. She wants her blood to work. Before that, she was someone who had no control over anything. Others have determined where she grows up and where she has to go now. "I didn't ask for this" were her words in episode 2.
Now that has changed. Now conviction plays a role and she takes control. She wants to save the world so that there are no more Sam's. And while Joel gradually finds his humanity again and lets people into his life again, Ellie loses a little more of herself and she takes the lead here in the end.
I think the series showed that more clearly in this way than the game did.
In addition, Ellie and Joel have reached a new level of connection with each other. Wordless understanding. Both wanted to save the brothers during the attack. That wasn't Joel's "don't do it Ellie" look. That was the look "I'll give you fire protection Ellie". And Ellie has absolute confidence in Joel.
There was also a little joke about the game. The moment when the sniper shot and Henry and Sam senselessly ran out of cover, only to return immediately. This is how Ellie behaved very often in the game. She ran out of cover, right in front of the enemy and then back again.
Kathleen kills traitors. This is not the point that makes her particularly malicious. That's what you do with traitors. The people who betray their own people are worse than the enemy himself. You see the enemy coming, traitors shoot you in the back. And you have to assume, if you let them live, that they will do it again at any time. In the history of all revolutions, very few have ended bloodlessly, and very few have left their enemies alive after their victory. They were lynched. So nothing happens here that hasn't happened 1000 times before. In addition, there are no more laws. The only thing Kathleen does differently here is that her focus is exclusively on revenge on Henry and unfortunately at the expense of everyone else in her group. She was a good leader for the revolution, but when that was done, someone else would have had to take over. And, of course, she was a deviant, reluctant person.
In the end, unfortunately, she was right. You cannot "fuck with fate". Henry sold all his people and the revolution for medicines, killed indirect a good and important man and Sam died anyway. This by his own hand. It doesn't get any worse. On the other hand, if Sam hadn't betrayed the leader, the revolution had never come, because the leader lacked the radicalism his sister had. It's just a loose loose situation. Misfortune on all sides, no matter how you spin it.
I felt Kathleen's death was fitting. I mean she made it clear beforehand that she didn't care about children (wtf) and was then killed by a child clicker.
An interesting feature of the show so far is that real brutality is only shown to us when Ellie sees it. We see Joel beating the soldier to death in episode 1 because Ellie is there and sees it. Ellie tortures and kills the stalker in episode 3. We see Joel's sniper kills because Ellie sees them. We see Henry's death, Sam being shot and Kathleen's death. With all other killings (Old Sniper, Bryan) you only hear it because the camera is focused on Ellie while she doesn't see these killings herself.
I found it really good to make Sam deaf. In the end, this opened the door for Sam to show Ellie the bite and then she could stay in the room with him without being attacked. He simply didn't hear her. Better than solved in the game and has given Ellie even more depth. She really hoped she could help Sam at that moment. In the game, Sam said nothing about his bite. Ellie entered his room the next morning and was attacked.