Tackling Tool Theft ~ Surprising Revelation From the Police
Вставка
- Опубліковано 2 кві 2024
- Roger has a chat with Police Superintendent Andrew Huddleston about tool theft.
Andrew is Head of the National Rural Crime Unit / National Construction Agriculture Theft Team and NPCC lead: Theft of Construction & Agri Machinery.
National Rural Crime Network
🔗nationalruralcrimenetwork.net
National Police Chiefs' Council
🔗www.npcc.police.uk
Northumbria Police
🔗northumbria.police.uk
________________________________
Superintendent Andrew Huddleston, Head of the National Rural Crime Unit, explains the challenges of policing rural crime and the benefits of collaboration between police and the public.
www.cla.org.uk/news/rural-cri...
==========================================
#theft #crime #tools
📪 Newsletter: skill-builder.uk/signup
/ skillbuilder
/ skillbuilderchannel
/ skill_builder
/ skillbuilderuk
🔗 Skill Builder Link Tree: linktr.ee/skillbuilder
🛒 As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases
🎬 Video library: ua-cam.com/users/skillbuilderc...
💧 We Support Charity Water: www.charitywater.org
◾ Out of respect to our sponsors and followers, we'll remove comments that do not follow expected standards of politeness and decency.
Unless your tools are sending out hurtful tweets, the police won't do anything to find them.
Yes exactly.
This
I laughed at that at first, then my heart sank cos it's true.
This
If tool theft was classed as a hate crime we might have more luck!
A van stopped in a yellow box is taxable . Tools stolen from a van costs money to investigate .
Hope this explains the situation we are in
All that money painting the box, probably more than £10,000 because that is what a few line on the local roundabout cost to paint.
And then how much was the camera system watching over the box ready to fine anything with a bumper overhanging the lines? £100,000++
And yet report a crime in progress and they don't even bother to come out.
Police just need to go down the local car boot sale. Why are there people selling on a stall 80 power tools that look almost new? No one has 10 of any tool to sell.
I have complete contempt for these hypocrites. Three times it has happened to me and each time the Police have been utterly useless. We are just a cash cow for them.
The government has deliberately built too few prison places while at the same time importing a dangerous criminal underclass.
The gay rainbow tweet police have been undermined with a fifth column of bossy 5' short haired dikes, but even if they investigated actual crimes properly the fact is the rest of the system is against the idea of real punishment for these crimes.
Ohhh no knife crime is not the issue. The issue is peoples clothes are not stab proof. Let's blame the manufactures instead of arresting and punishing people who commit the crime. Sorted.
Well said, made me smile, which is sad now im thinking about it
Vans come from Ireland every Monday, empty, no trailers, go back friday with trailors loaded with plant & tools...That one route...
Several years ago I had two cantilever toolboxes full of electricians tools stolen from my van.After repotting to the police I got a phone call a few months later saying they had caught some guy with dozens of boxes and did I want to have a look. I went down but they were all other trades so I said none were mine.The guy said,believe it or not,well just take two! I said that he could have said that to someone before me who then took mine and I just walked away disgusted
.
our subcontractor's vans got attempted twice in one month - both times in South London, both drilled through doors. Tool theft is out of control in some areas. Thank you for taking on this subject.
A long time ago they used to put naughty people in a special place where they couldn't get out for a very long time and everyone lived happily ever after.
WTF Roger! Why did you let this guy off the hook?? Go to any market in the country and you will see a shifty bloke (who does not have English as his first language) with 200 power tools spread out on the floor for sale. It is SO SIMPLE for the cops to just ask the question "Do you have purchase receipts for these items" - then just impound the lot there and then. Do that every weekend across the country for a few months and this whole thing will STOP. There are perhaps 100 gangs creating 99% of the pain. It is easy to make their lives painful. Police just do not do their jobs. Blaming manufacturers and having pointless meetings for 7 years is utterly shambolic. The very reason we have this problem is because the police decided to do FA about it. Impound, impound, impound - it is not for the law to prove you own stuff, it is for you to have evidence that it you came buy it legally. Wasted opportunity Roger (as I am sure these comments will concur with). #p*ssedoff
Roger Bisby, Skillbuilder answer this.
The police, whose first language is English, are the biggest irresponsible hypocrites by diverting responsibility to manufacturers, as it’s the easiest thing to do naturally ‘as they don’t have resources’ is always the joke of an answer.
It just takes one sting operation with ‘marked’ vans in specific areas and a good 10year imprisonment to all those involved to set the example straight.
But why would that do that ??!! Screwfix employees 1000’s because we get mugged, insurance companies work, vehicle workshops work, car manufacturers sell parts, signage companies works etc etc it’s all whole industry working plus the added bonus of the thief not needing to claim benefits!
Great comment. The police are useless and incompetent.
Mark your tools and definitely “mark” thieves.
oOOOO
Thieves aren't breaking into vans to steal tractors, wtf? One of my employees parked his private Transit in a railway station for four hours, it was broken into (fruitlessly, he doesn't keep anything in there) costing quite a bit to repair, turns out it's quite easy to drill through the sliding door and wiggle a screwdriver to open the lock (which these people did). He was parked in front of a camera, which had a number to ring. He rang the number, spoke to British transport police, who said they couldn't do anything unless he could narrow the timeframe down to something more convenient. Fucking outrageous that they wouldn't just load the tape and see who did it. He ended up buying some kit online that has 6mm plate stainless steel to cover the hole and slow down further attacks🤷♂️
Need some bait vans that have a giant rat cage inside.
If the police won’t do its job then people should take the law into their own hands!
People will do that eventually. The dike will go at one point but something tells me that this very same police will be all too happy to pursue traders than crooks!
YEA GET BETTER INSURANCE
@@michaelfraser5723 Not sure if this was sarcasm or a real advice. Better insurance always costs more money. I'm not really fussed who benefits from crime - the crook or the insurance. Those are my money that I have to pay and still suffer the crime.
Good luck finding anything which has vanished. They're not so stupid as to leave a trail you can follow and you won't get access to any roadside cameras.
@@michaelfraser5723 i want my tools not replacements
I've caught people twice breaking into my neighbours (he's a plumber) garage and about to load his plumbing tools etc into a van and when I called the police that I had detained them was told on both occasions to let them go or I would be arrested for assault and detaining them
Unbelievable mate sickening
Don't believe that
Good heavens. Disgraceful
Same thing happened at a garage I use. Owner caught them, police made him release them. They’ve got no interest in arresting thieves.
How did you detain them?
If the middle classes were having their laptops pinched on the tube there would be absolute outrage in the media 🎉
lol, I doubt it
I think so, because the laptops are property of large companies on the whole.
I doubt anything would be done about the middle classes laptops, regardless of whether they are privately or company owned.
After all, nothing is being done about their stolen Range Rover’s. A news article this week said some police forces are closing stolen car cases within 24 hours.
So called 'working class' people use laptops too...now, define middle class?
I bought a brand new Kawasaki motorcycle - imbobilizer, DNA security glue all over it, massive chain and padlock - it was taken in the early hours of the morning, just under the window of my flat; whilst I slept and heard nothing.... reported, crime number etc..... a week later I was called by the police stating that "there wasn't any point in looking for it, it was already on the continent somewhere; fully stripped for part re-sale. Err??? Who cared...
That to me suggests something is very much lacking in the effectiveness of our border controls at ports.
yep they are useless and the criminals know it so why stop.
Your story sounded true until you said they called you... :) Shocked they bothered and didn't just ignore you from the start.
@@WhiteDieselShed every word was true! Including the phone call.. I have no reason to lie.
Police called me twice after my tools were stolen. In the middle of the day in Greenwich IKEA, London, parking lot, in front of CCTV.
Once to ask details. Second time to say there was no leads, as they were masked and with fake number plate. Also said it is a big problem and I should avoid going there!?
This is so back to front. Don't whine to the manufacturers, jail the thieves for 2 years per stolen item.
So what you are saying is we should spend nearly £100k per tool stolen (The average population (people in prison) across the year (2023) was 78,959 and the overall cost per prisoner was £48,409 per annum."
@@llljustcallhimdave Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying.
@llljustcallhimdave Plenty of empty islands around let's Escape from New York this shizzle
@@llljustcallhimdave I agree they should cut the costs to keep them, you don't need a load of prison wardens if you lock them in cells like sardines and don't let them out until they have repaid the victims or served their time whichever is the longer...
@@WhiteDieselShed I'm sure Noel Thomas would've been happy with that idea
Yay more and more laws!
A billion laws and no enforcement or punishment......😂
@@phooogle more and more laws equals tyranny!
The police are all in Scotland enforcing the anti human rights bill.
Just the sort of extreme wokeist bullsh1t I'd expect from them to be honest.
No they are not. Humza Has so far recieved the largest number of reports for racsist speak (3,800) but they have refused to take any action or ivestigate every crime (a previous promise). Just waiting for a relion to be insulted or pictured. 🙂
So WHY are the Police not naming and shaming the manufacturers who don't volunteer to improve security?
One of our vans was broken into twice in two weeks despite being parked under a CCTV camera in a car park!!
Because it will not work... Any security added can be easily removed. When questioned it's 20 years old and never came with any security.
Make the locks better on the vehicles they will just cut the sides off with the disc cutter they stole last week... Police could say why leave equipment in a van if its at risk?
Because the tool manufacturers would take legal action probably, if it's not a legal requirement then they are doing nothing wrong and saying otherwise would be slander in the eyes of the law, it's sad but that's how it is unfortunately
Where I live in Lincolnshire most of the stolen vans ends up at a certain place we cannot mention. All they have to do is wait outside and stop them but they don`t like getting rammed.
I'm a plumber. I have been looking for some time now at what I can use to mark my tools. It is relatively easy for us to open up our tools and epoxy in a RFID chip or NFC sticker inside the tool, but what we need to know is what protocols are used with the police scanners so we can buy a reasonably priced identification device that will work. Immobilise sells NFC tags, but they are very expensive at around £15 each for a tag that at most costs 10p to produce. Manufacturers must be told to incorporate these tags in every single power tool produced. When you purchase the tool, you can register the unique code either on your phone while you're still at the merchant or make it law for the merchant to register it while you're there before you leave with it.
To reiterate, a tag is a few pennies to produce. Buying something aftermarket can be costly. Is there a way that we as trades can have some sort of input in the legislation that Andrew is talking about?
its not lack of technique its lack of punishment, they is very little deterrent.. change the law for all thefts of any kind to a top category punishment. its a inexcusable crime
Crime's a risk game.
Criminals balance the risk of detection + risk of apprehension + risk of conviction & size of sentence vs reward for the crime.
Reduce any one of those risks and crime is more rewarding.
Nailed on. There is no deterrent .
Perhaps we can learn from other countries like Dubai there is no such problems
@@latvijasruna2719you could leave your van full with doors open there
Boobytraps!! That’s the way to go. Electrifying lock boxes with large capacitors and tear-gass.
Perhaps not the spring loaded hand removal device but it’s interesting!! Just saying.
Electrifying lock boxes would be a great idea but you would probably get charged for hurting the criminals, it's ridiculous but I wouldn't be surprised
@@andymagic2924 yes. And my hope is the conversation around that in the face of the current situation.
This content is golden! Real every day bloke interviewing the establishment, brilliant!
More please 👍🏻
If ever there was a crime which needed Saudi-style justice...
Sorry Roger but i cant watch PC comedian Huddelston victim blame for 20 minutes. The main problem isn't the lack of futuristic super anti theft technology BUT the LACK of punishment and deterrence in the UK, no one is going to risk robbing a Hitachi if they get a decade plus behind bars.
One pathetic example he made is the Honda quad comment, WHY should Honda go out of the way to to invest in super high tech immobilisation technology for a farm tool to heard the sheep which is not a road legal vehicle which would need expensive immobilization tech?
what next chip and pin bio metrics for cow milking machines(!)
Also saying manufacturers like their items being stolen because it creates more sales in replacements is BS because if you claim on insurance and insurance companies notices a trend of a certain product being easily stolen on their database they will increase premiums massively so people will be naturally less likely to purchase the product in the future.
Back to my original point if someone in Hondas home country of Japan (where crime is the lowest per capita of any major industrialised democracy) was arrested and convicted for stealing farm equipment they would be banged up for 15+ years and life basically over, here in UK you would get a slap on the wrist 2 year suspended sentence..
My point is PC Huddelston is too focused playing politics by blaming victims of crime and not questioning the cause being the decay in British society and broken justice system with comically lenient sentencing which makes repeat offending an attractive lifestyle choice to many.
No tradesman sells their working powertools. They use them until they no longer work, and then buy a new one. ANY secondhand powertool that still in working condition HAS to be assumed to be stolen.
I was working on a site where a guy dressed up as a worker in high vis walked onto the site in the day and walked off with a chainsaw because nobody knew he wasn’t meant to be there until it was too late.
We have had stuff stolen by couriers, They walk in with a cardboard box and when nobody is looking they fill it up and walk out again. "sorry matem wrong house".
I have had my uniform (high viz etc) stolen off my washing line...it was then used to just walk into someone backyard because no one thought to question him...
The police? I think you mean departnment of the insurance industry, otherwise known as the Crime Reference Number Issuing Departnemnt. My bro had his 7k motobike stolen, had video evidence of the thieves riding it, their names and address. Police didn't even call my brother back.
I found who had my tools and police threatened to prosecute me if I went to get my own tools back!!
I think Jeremy Clarkson has named his farm after what the police are doing to tackle this!
Yes, I am always hearing from the Police wanting to code my bike, so if it gets stolen it can be tracked and all these good crime prevention methods they used to employ years ago. (not)
The thing is, even stolen and tracked, you will have to inform your insurer.....they will then proceed to bend you over and tell you what a naughty boy you are.......for the next. 5 years...
Had my tools stolen recently , filled in the form online . Still waiting for a reply from Surrey police . Yes , very very poor not even a response
Surrey police are useless
Time to start this campaign at markets and ports .
All i heard the entire video is that Andrew Huddleston has done fuck all to stop tool theft. Crossing his fingers that someone else does something to stop the sale AFTER they’ve been stolen.
Glad to see most people here see through this absolute dribble. The fact is that it's just too hard a crime for them to even think about solving and not economically viable. They really do think we are all quite dim don't they!
Blah Blah Blah...................... Why do the Police seem to do nothing about personalised illegal numberplates, is it because personalised illegal numberplates are often found on expensive vehicles.
Yeah… this is me holding my breath! 😳 Tool theft is out of control… the tool manufacturers know the situation but don’t want to impact their profits. Bring in tougher sentencing and you could impact the situation overnight. Will this ever happen…?! We already know the answer.
My father is 88 years old, and they talked their way into his house and stole tools and items, one of them kept him talking in the back garden while the others were helping themselves to the stuff from the house, my wife happened to be at the end of the garden and told him that he better leave, at that time. She did not realise that the others had been helping their shelf’s while the other one kept my dad talking. My wife told him that he better leave, They got in the van and drove off. We then realise things had been stolen and phoned the police we told them it was a white transit van in the area, but they said there was nothing they could do unless we had a registration number, nobody even come out to follow up on the theft, it’s not like the crime was reported hours later, it was literally as it had happened
What a useless conversation there was not a single good suggestion to resolve this problem.
Take your tools indoors every night , a pain , but way better than waking up to a empty van .
Indoors into the house? Bedroom??
They'll still break in and take them man what nonsense
A thief will think twice about breaking into a house whilst people are in.
The difference is 6yrs for Burglary or community service for van theft
@@rotormasher noncense ? Im phoning Humzar 😅
Had my tool stolen... zero help from the police... i even gound my tools got the guys details.. i told the police and the police told me, that if i was to go get the tools myself, then i would be prosecuted!!!
i remember rogers vid a few years back about van security. and NOTHING HAS CHANGED. i said back then. the way to fix this is to refuse to buy their low quality poor security junk vans
Vans have windows and steel panels, always an easy target. Nothing will stop them breaking in.
This police officer would make a good politician, talks the talk but will ultimately not produce anything worthwhile! Get officers back on the beat, what happened to the estate police officers who lived on their patch, knew who the trouble makers were and kept an eye on them. The old ways worked, lets go back to them.
A 2 foot tall rainbow gremlin wont be able to apprehend anybody.
Funny how all these people say about going back to the good old days of the police, would that be the days when they used to use a phone book to get a confession?
As someone that grew up in the 70's and 80's I don't remember these glory days of the beat bobby keeping all the scally wags in line, just like now they would turn up when it was all over
@@llljustcallhimdave I can remember the local bobby handing out summary justice to the local trouble makers, something they wouldn't forget in a hurry!😂
@@edthompson9337 Problem with that was it led to the West Midlands Serious Crimes Squad that unfortunately lived up to its name and committed a lot of serious crimes
@@llljustcallhimdave The crime statistics were alot lower then, so at least some were doing their job properly.
Old bill aren’t interested. Plenty of boot sales around South east and east London have people selling these stolen tools week in week out. Problem is those having the tools stolen are the type old bill despise.
Exactly, raid one stall and ask for all receipts. Selling that many tools they must be a business so have ALL their receipts for goods bought and sold.
All cash and no bank transfers for sales/purchases then confiscate everything for money laundering.
In other words it's down to everyone else to slove this not the police doing a bit of basic police work.
Morally bankrupt corporate shareholders favouring profit over doing what's right? Unheard of!
The police might be against criminals, but that doesn’t mean they are on our side either.
I live in Dublin it is the same here.
1) yep, most of the strategies involve laws, overview stuff. While I appreciate this, there's nothing about bobbies looking out for working blokes (and blokettes)
2) no mention of who might be stealing tools? It's almost as if a load of people who don't share the values of working people have suddenly shown up from nowhere. But, got to be careful with this subject because unlike tool theft, you will get a visit from the police if you express an opinion about it.
3) a SmartWater Home/Sole Trader pack currently costs 60 quid, the commercial pack is £250. How about a scheme where these items are Zero VAT Rated and subsidised by government grant / provided by police, to be taken up by as many people as possible?
I have bought some used power tools, I asked them to sign a pre-printed receipt and add the serials, that these are their tools for sale. Most are happy that I take the time to be cautious about what I buy for use on sites
I'm all in favour of prevention measures to try to prevent tools being stolen, but what is the point if the majority of the tools end up being sent to Eastern Europe, where there is no traceablity?
Policing hurt feelings is easier.
Roger what a load of rowlocks from the Bill I happened to visit the local police station to repair pipework in there stolen tool store the amount of tools marked up with owners name was amazing I could not understand why they were still there , there was also tools stolen from my Employer (a local authority) 7 months before . I was just told to take them !!!!!!
When you have had the ratbags dig through a 9" concrete wall to steal tools how do you protect your tools.
The issue is not laws etc. but police presence and them actually doing their job. We need more police patrolling consistently as that is a preventative measure. Once the crime is committed (around by us is car thefts lately) the police can't do anything, even with full blown video footage.
Prevention is what is needed, more police with the powers to do their job and not chase pointless hurtful tweets like someone else has said.
This comes down to funding the increasing the force again...
No chance. Police force, NHS, every public service gutted by the gov. No money, no staff.
With your connections Roger I am surprised that you have not found a sponsor for a National Tool Register. This would allow trades to register their tools and make them traceable. 🤔
Roger thinks "Bloke not interested in buying StormDry... Move on".
😂
Tools nicked here's a crime number. That is the complete involvement of the Police. Walk into any Cash Convertors; there are power tools with company names scratched in. Ban Cash Convertors from selling power tools that would at least lower the amount being nicked.
Engraving your tools is good advice. Can't see anything that will change the thief off tools.
Mr. Huddlestlon. You have renewed my faith in the police. Engrave all your kit the day you buy it.
I put all power tools in van in morning and out at night, it's exhausting
Don't you dare blaming thieves for thefts. Blame the victims!
Exactly. And these damn whiny victims dial 999 and expect help how ridiculous of them.
The only way the po-po will do anything about stolen tools is…oh wait that’s “NOTHING”.
I bet the police would change their tune real quick if people were breaking into their vans to steal their police gear
Even if you do the legwork they do nothing. My sister had her phone stolen but phones can be tracked. We found the exact address of the thief, pulled it up on Google maps. Handed it to the police, they did nothing, just filled a report.
I’ve had tools stolen twice. Police not interested, i’d never help the police they’re a joke.
A really good interview. Actually feel like thats dome progress and it can only lead to kore progress in the future.
Same as the rise in car thefts, now why do you think all these Albanians were desperate to come here on rubber boats and not use far cheaper airfares.Most of it will be going abroad.
Doesn't matter how they get here, we don't check passports on departure anyway!
what r you on about?
Talk is cheap ?
Check with Hilti tools as all tools are marked and registered with them. All the tools are serial numbered all the way through.
There i a "lock picking lawyer" channel that's complaining that the lock manufacturers haven't done much in decades to make locks better, and most can be picked today with minimal skill and tools.
I fitted the yale wireless pirs in the back of my van connected to a controler /alarm in the house ..(screwfix)
My local tool sales rep said he's never had anything stolen from his cloned transit tipper.
They are doing nothing except sitting in police cars on their phones getting fat!
That will just open another market, moving them abroad!!
They give u a crime no and thats it
not even that mate - my ex committed numerous (very serious crimes) against me and others, wasting police time, lying to them (their own officers witnessed it repeatedly and commented on it, two WPCs shaking with anger, one weeping) - but try to report it and get a number? Nah.. won't give one, not even with a witness, not even in reply to letters and emails. In fact, they (unlawfully) arrested me for peacefully and lawfully trying to get EVEN MORE evidence against my mad ex. Being innocent and challenging the system doesn't suit them - total politically controlled useless peons.
@@gurglejug627 They are at that mate
It’s going to Eastern Europe because there are more of the criminals coming from that area.
Had my tools stolen zero help from police. Complete waste of time rather spend resources on catching motorist out and handing out fines
If your not driving a car they aren’t interested just go for the easy option
Put a chip in all power tools at source that can be activated upon purchase by the retailer with the purchasers details. Then legislate to make all carboots, market etc hold chip detectors and check all power tools on stalls to make sure they’re legit to the seller, who has to sign a receipt upon sale with their details to enable a buyer to have the chip updated at a police station. Long winded but might deter the thefts.
Some interesting points. There is an invisible marker kit that called Selecta DNA. That works all well.
To use a building analogy... 'here's some paint..go paint that house'.. You think to yourself.. There is no where near enough paint here to cover the whole house.. Shall I.. 1. paint a really thin coat over the whole house and risk a crappy looking job, or 2. paint the most visible parts well so people don't notice so much... But I'll know which parts I've skimped on..and if people notice what I've done they'll still complain.
There is no right or wrong answer....... Police just need more staff.. Its not that they're thick, lazy or apathetic... The government doesn't listen.. Same with NHS, schools.. What do they expect? People rightly feel frustrated and annoyed.. Do they not think that Police Officers don't feel this way too? You've no idea
They have enough officers when it suits, eg. when arresting a young autistic girl for calling a female officer a lesbian like her nanna!
It's the couldn't careless here's a crime number attitude that has turned these type of crimes into an epidemic, it's time to start upholding the law not dancing about at LGBTQ carnivals. Complete waste of time, that's why the public has no faith in them anymore.
Enough of them on duty to arrive if you call about a man with a camera it seems. 2 to 6 will arrive even though it's legal to have a camera in public so no crime has taken place. Report a real crime and nobody turns up.
Funny the police blaming manufacturers, try blaming weak sentences. You can serial number tools but do you understand how much admin staff you’d need to register every single tool ? Vans are commercial vehicle and you can fit them with an internal 250db sound bomber siren . When it goes off people streets away will hear it and the first things the thieves will do is bolt without tools, why ? Because it’s that loud you need to cover your ears , even ear defenders doesn’t stop how loud it is.
Andrew is the boy, companies don’t play ball so he pushes through a law. That’s how you get things done!
I still think that tools and vehicles have to be registered at the point of sale, and also registered with one's insurance. People complaining about spending an extra 10+ minutes at the retailer to do this, need to suck it up, and just do it. A national database would help. Scribe your tools.
Talk is cheaper than buying replacement tools.
Mark your tools with initials and postcode, photograph. If stolen check the car boot sales, get there early
In Australia I would always engrave my driving licence number on to all of my power tools. Now in France in a region where theft isn’t a big problem I still engrave my phone number onto everything I buy. Buy a cheap engraver (£20) and use it .
Vans are poorly designed and a rating and testing system rating their security might help persuade manufacturers to build them right. The company Transit Custom is likely to be replaced this year and the new version I think has added key less entry and ignition so RFID pouch will be needed. A system that is vulnerable added to a commercial vehicle to make it more vulnerable. The result will be despite 3rd party uprated locking systems the van will be vulnerable to being nicked contents and all. Driven to a remote lay-by and a hole cut in the van and unloaded. Van off the road with £1000's pound of damage and all the tools to replace.
The lowlifes who are prepared to buy stolen tools are a big part of the problem. No market, no thefts
Sounds like a good idea to "force/heavily encourage" you to register your tool with their app so that you always have access to report stolen from there. Else if people don't register the tool then that stolen item exists in the world forever untraced.
What's the point in marking something that they can't be arsed to find after it's been nicked?! If it never turns up it's pointless and it usually doesn't. I had a brand new trailer stolen, it had the number laser cut straight through through the chassis, all the Police did was ask me if I wanted a crime number as they usually do. No mate, I want you to go find it, you could trace it, but you can't be arsed. If someone buys something for a 1/4 of it's value they know it's stolen so they'll buy it and use it. There are people openly committing crime on FBMP or Ebay and the Police don't follow it up when you tell them.
Yep BlackBeltBarrister covered someone tracking their stolen phone to a house and the police would not attend. When they knocked on the door and demanded their phone they had a whole bag of them. They could have solved 40 crimes if only they attended that property.
He is technically a politician at his level... I know trust me 😂
3:15 This makes no sense - theft won't generate tool sales, unless they sell them as metal to recycling. It just moves the sold tools from hands to hands. Put chips into tools so the police can easily read them with a scanner and check against database - that will scare away the people who buy stolen tools.
It might not make sense but it is a simple fact. People who have tools stolen go and buy new tools of the same quality and often the same brand. The second hand stolen tools appeal to people who would never pay full price for tools and, if they can't buy stolen tools they buy very cheap low quality tools.
I own a Vanmoof push bike that has Apple Find My built in. No matter where it is in the world I can track it. There is no reason the same Bluetooth based tracking technology couldn't be in every power tool.
5 vans = each builder do a 2 hour look out through the night
you do that day in day out after a hard day of work...
Do builders all live together? A gaggle of builders?
@@WhiteDieselShed a bevvy of builders?
Shame this was not a live chat where we could ask questions. eg. WHY will the police rush out on lights and sirens when a company or security guard say there is a man with a camera in a public place legally and yet a member of the public calls to say someone is breaking into their car or they have been burgled and they are not interested.
I reported something stolen and the only interest was could it be used as a weapon to kill someone... No way was I going to say yes because they would probably arrest me...
This copper sounds like he gives a sh.t. Would help if the police actually turned up to investigate. If their not gonna do that then they need to allow people to use all means necessary to protect their property
I love it - palming it off on manufacturers - people lose their keys all the time and need to be able to change locks etc - they cannot make vehicles 'harder to start' without someone ripping out the wiring loom and touching a few wires together.
The issue is no one is scared of the police - too slow, too inept, courts totally and utterly crap if the police even get their act together - I'm not for draconianism, far from it, just a basic bit of intelligence and efficiency which the UK police lack wholesale - they inevitably blame lack of funding yet they turn up in 6-12 people for minor incidents and spend cash painting their cars rainbow colours, lying, making up laws, harassing ordinary people, pandering to malicious women and checking for any naughty or humerous comments on-line. Sad bustards. They alone are a good reason to emigrate.
Police where I live - not perfect, but they don't waste time and they don't harass or intimidate anyone, follow the law and are always polite and reasonable - miles better than UK police, same in almost any country across Europe I've been to, same in Russia and China, despite the propagandic nonsense we get told - and they sometimes speak better English than the British police.
And the very idea that Insurers pay out the full value of stolen machinery and not a massively devalued rate is laughable, if they pay out at all, having exhausted all the usual tricks to get out of paying.
Manufacturers can't forensically mark kit as it would have to be done for the individual at point of sale - that might come down to retailers, but even then the system won't work because people sell tools on and it would cause chaos in registering owners and proving ownership.
What planet does this copper come from?
EDIT: As for ID marks Roger, I used to get stopped on my motorbike a lot as a youngster, and, having had two 'bikes stolen I would ask the policeman why they didn't check the frame number and engine number to see if what I was riding was stolen (they would spend loads of time annoying me, being sarcastic , though my bikes were always legal) - they would reply that it's "not their job to get their hands dirty" - on immaculate, clean machines. So serial numbers - great idea, but in reality a waste of time. Yes I'd like to see clear serial numbers on tools but on which part of any expensive machinery? And it's no use if the police just cannot be bothered - the usual case is they just don't turn up, so they will never see the evidence in any case.
Let me put this into perspective - I phoned Sussex Police's Information Centre at Lewes some years ago - they didn't know who their Chief Constable was - I had to tell them. I'm being flippant with this (true though it is) example - if I got to serious horror stories I can relate about British police's sloth - they could make a man, or any victim, weep in despair.
And good God - to blame Russia sanctions for the fact that so many more people are utterly monetarily desperate, have had their own stuff taken and not got paid out - and have no trust in the UK insurers of police any way - and so themselves 'going to the dark side' is beyond imagination - if people want to get rid of kit there are loads of countries that will take it - not least Ukraine as a clearing house for money laundering, stolen goods and the weapons we are stupid enough to send them - which have turned up worldwide - so the proof is there.
I feel physically ill listening to his polite dross.