FASTEST ENERGY ACTIVATOR & CRYSTALLIZATION CATALYST FARM | The First Descendant Farming Guide
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I think I have found the fastest farming method for Energy Activator & Crystallization Blueprints. You will be getting 2 guaranteed Amorphous Materials for a 7 minute mission, and opening them with a sub 2 minute boss fight using fairly standard endgame gear. This can be sped up by several minutes if fully invested into a bossing character and clearing character. You will also be receiving Stabilizers during this farm to increase your chances, while also getting Ultimate Descendant parts.
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i wonder if you can't do versper runs on normal ( for key's you can do that in 2 min 40 sec ) the boss on normal takes 8 seconds if you are lvl 100 gear drop chance is 3% i did farm the dungeon for trancendende mods since you get 2 chances on mini boss in middle and final boss i do have 90+ keyus left so might try it and record it for fun :P
There are some operations where you literally can not proceed without either jumping or grappling, so keep that in mind
Laughs with ajax void stomp
@@BeyondAIR15 laughs with Kyle’s jet pack
Laughs with Valby's plop plop
you dont even need to teleport into vespers to start the operation, you can start it directly from albion through the console on the left after going straight a bit from spawn, not that it matters much for sepulchers, but some operations are really far from the tp point
I'm guessing he made the guide before the update
@@skympii6734 This wasn't part of the update, it's been that way since the game launched. One PC for Operations, and one for Interceptions.
Dude ily. I didnt know this was possible 😊
It said no jump and grapple hook disabled..... how you gonna finish a mission
@@espertix5839 Some of those instanced dungeons have lots of platforming, some have none. I suppose he might have picked one with none.
Over 60hrs into this game and just now found out that drone drains shield to move.😂
Same. When it stopped I would back away and towards thinking it was just glitched. Lolz
I see at first time, warframe have same mechanic in a specific misson 😂
yup so if you play with multiple people its better to have only one person near it at a time till it drains the shield then swap
I always thought it got hit or something and needed to repair ITS shield 🤣
That happend because nobody read. Like those donkeys lvl 10 trying to kill a BOSS lvl 90
I didn't know about the re-rolling to get additional kill score! That's insanely helpful. Great video dude.
I pretty much do this for mine. Only difference is I find shelter to be significantly faster than sepulcher. Shelter also has a much more forgiving kill score, so you dont need to farm mobs at the last boss.
where is shelter
@@TheLastElderDragon Timberfall, Vespers. Its just the other infiltration mission in Vespers. On bunny I can clear it in 5ish min.
@@Ratbacks THANKS MAN
Actually good tip with Shelter, really fast one with easy points.
This is for Endgame only anyone that's expecting this to be easy is highly crazy you definitely need a really good build to even kill hard mode bosses but the % drop rate is way better then normal normal drop rate is shit I'm not there myself but I'll definitely go to this video when I'm ready and built for it
Go play warframe that this game is copying, its not hard to farm for compare to this game, this is ridiculous. Stop trying to defend a grindy non sense like this
@@lip124 Alternatively how about offer constructive criticism and band together as a positive force in the community to push for these to be changed?
I love warframe as well, but warframe has had it's fair share of problems over the years and you know how those were changed?
By not leaving to go play destiny 2 and letting the devs know what we want in a positive mannerism. Not being a toxic dolt
@@lip124Why are you here then? Go back to WF and cry there 😂
Thanks Chadly for this guide.
Ive been doing exactly this for like 3 days or so, Devourer is such a squishy boss(Hoping they dont change him) and this mission is super fast like 5:30-6:30 mins
they won't change him, devourer is a great stopping point for most people on normal diff already.
Have been through 75 amorphous material 002’s and still no energy activator blueprint. (Im losing my mind) 😅
yea im on my way to the mines again lmao
My dude has fallen to the temptations 💳💳 Also i didn't know you could change those rewards and have 240%. Thanks for the heads up
You can select the operations in albion right outside the main entrance go left and there is a terminal interact with it and launch the activity from their saves u a loading screen
This is the best way indeed. good job
I do this as well, but I run shelter in vespers for pattern 79. The run can be done around 6 mins each and also is opened on devourer! Thanks for the videos and I hope this helps :)
will test it , changing rewards is a point i miss out , same for reroll for better results ... thx alot for this hint inside a complete different topic ...anyway you can get to the dungeons from albion , so you dont need to travel or walk , maybe that helps for even min/max your stuff
Legitimately great location for this farm, and it's even better when your Bunny is built out - all of these enemies are weak to electric.
Mag Lab on hard we averaged 6 minute runs with 220% multi you have the same chance of amorphous with crystal cat on rotation and energy activator on rotation b . Points are really tight tough.
best uses for shape stabilizer?
Yeah, let me just insta a hard mode boss to get crystallization catalysts real quick. Cause I already have 8 lying around to put on a gun to do that.... Of course farming end game materials is easy in end game. Now how do you do it with 50 mod capacity and no custom mod sockets?
Kinda depends on where you're at in the game. You can get the catalyst blue print from the normal bosses, even if a lower chance. If you're strong enough it'll take 2 minutes per run.
@@dekublack4920 You can do Magister Lab on normal for a 20% chance at getting one. Not great but it works.
THIS!!!! all these creators are useless for non end game players lmfao
You have 8 crystalization catalysts lying around? How though?
Dozens of amorphous materials can be broken by normal colossi or void fusion reactors and have drop rates of 15% and 20%. Open map, then access info, then amorphous materials, then type "crystal" into the search feature. It'll show you all the AMPs that give catalysts, and will highlight materials you already own that do so. Go crack those on the normal bosses and void fusion reactors and not only will you get a bunch of descendant and weapon parts, you'll get crystalization catalysts.
On console, how do you open the options menu for the Sepulcher event...
this is great! right now im still pretty weak so i been solo farming magister lab(normal) ~2-3 mins per run. it would be 3% chance instead of 6% chance and you only get 1 per run so im not sure which is the better option over a long period of time.
im 1parts away from ultimate gley but i've never hit 6% without stabilizer thing :d
Can you farm normal devourer if we didn't have access to hard mode devourer yet?
lately ive been getting sick of farming for a 15% on top of a non-guaranteed pattern..........its like having to get lucky twice! hopefully they listen and EASE up on the RNG just a tad!
get to hardmode before u worry about things like that. not only are the rates for the bps increased but u also get hard dungeons witch (like shown in the video) give u a guaranteed amp of your choice. And if you hit max point even guarantees 2 of them.
@@ceadeusx So I've killed all but 2 hard mode bosses, I can and have been farming them. Completely not my point! What I was getting at is the same concept as in the last epoch. you first have to get a 50% chance then to get a 15% chance on something and its even worse if you are going for a specific module etc. It's the same concept of holding a carrot on a stick in front of you 1 foot away. Now hold that same carrot instead of 100 meters away. THAT chase doesn't seem worth it as much does it?
@@ooanticsoo4475that’s a silly way to think about it lol 3 feet or 300 feet it’s still moving away from you js. Both seem not worthwhile unless you enjoy the journey. Which is what all you salty rng triggered gamers should really be doing. Calm down enjoy the game there’s no rush
@@tonykeally1039 Thanks, and you are entitled to your own opinion. Maybe you haven't heard the carrot on a stick thing before............ Neither carrot is actually moving, they are stationary. The difference is the stick being 1 foot away is reachable within a reasonable amount of time, whereas the one 300 feet away is so far out of the reality of reaching within a reasonable amount of time that you don't go for it in the first place. And everyone has their own limits of what they are willing to spend farming for something. I don't know what you mean by salty-triggered gamers, perhaps it's cause I'm just an older individual and not up to speed on your lingo, but this is the math behind what's going on. I appreciate your feedback and good luck farming!
@@ooanticsoo4475 lmao I’m sorry man but I have heard the carrot on the stick thing and I fully understand how it works. It seems you do not however. The entire point of the analogy is to show an unobtainable goal. Not one that is within reach or further away. The carrot symbolizes that which is used to entice you but is forever out of reach. Now if you choose to use the analogy in some new way feel free but that is not how the analogy has ever worked in the past. And mine is the common and universally accepted rendition of said analogy.
Anyone else notice his restrictions said no jumping no grapple and he said you didn’t need them but then jumped to avoid attacks in the footage he showed XD no hate just thought it was funny thanks for the guide!
can post ur bunny build?
Jump disabled but you were jumping? does it mean double jump disabled then?
yes. some missions ahve parts u cant get to without jumping or grappling so
or maybe just maybe, he recorded the clips at diffrent times
Yeah I caught the stream, he unchecked it.
My friend and I were farming HC bosses last night... I am currently sitting at 17 useless Wave of Light "tuna tins"...
how to kill that enemies with ice spike shield besides using skills? move behind them and shoot them?
Yes and punch
Jump and then use melee for ground slam. It stuns them bad
Gley just loses hp for the shield bot thing to make it move, idk if that would make it faster here but just something to keep in mind
She does? It must be in such small bursts I never noticed. I don't even bother getting up during half the walk with my new brainless pet of the hour. XD
Good deal and I’m wondering if anyone can give me a clear answer on this.
For specifics, can you use an energy activator multiple times on the same descendent?
So obviously, with the very tedious process in regards to farming and using these materials… With the crystallization catalyst, you can use it multiple times for potentially each of your module slots. Once you grind back up to level 40 and such as well over and over and over.
However, with the energy activators there seems to be a indication there letting you know when you’ve used one. So again I’m trying to confirm if you can exceed that and just use an energy activator over and over.
I would initially think that you couldn’t just based on the fact that if you did grind this out and the horrific time that would be lol, you could end up with 200+ module capacity. Which would be broken and would very likely render the need for crystallization catalyst Null n void as you could just exceeded your capacities with the energy activator instead.
So yeah. Just really wanting some clarity on the amount of uses available here in regards to this energy activator.
Thanks
99.9% sure it says you can only use it one time per weapon/decendent. Would be way too OP if ya could get to like 200 slots. Maybe in future they will have a different material that will increase your slots too? Who knows
@@natetaylor2454 understood yeah initially just thinking about it. I would assume you couldn’t use it repeatedly because of how you could abuse it to maximize your capacity to 200+ or whatever.
But I appreciate your feedback as I just wanted to confirm this because I have not been able to get a clear answer on this anywhere.
Thx
@@grimmjow0106 it's 1 per weapon/descendant for activators but you can use as many catalysts as you want you can overwrite them as well with new ones i'm pretty sure
@@Atzmn much obliged for the clarity 👊
@Atzmn correct. There is even a meta game to set the type of matching socket on the weapon/descendent depending on the builds your are going for or the flexibility/purpose to buffing up a particular weapon.
Different modules are different categories of socket to get the half cost (from adding a catalyst) above and beyond the rarity of them.
Farm the mission with a mate so you xan swap for the shield payload part.
Can you share your bunny build please 🙏🏽
Very nice, but maybe at the end of each video you could also show us the equipment :D... It helps us a lot for those who are beginners... Good luck in the future, Respect 💪💪💪
Take note that this is possible at 220% bonus for a guaranteed 100% for 2 mats.
Does it have to be done on hard?
the other method is still way more relaxed and easy. just run magister lab on normal in about 2 minutes or quicker over and over for a 100% pattern drop.. then simply kill normal gravewalker to crack all these for 3% chance. Super easy super chill.. startet yesterday and have 3 of them queued up
thats what ive been doing since its super chill, the goal was to be able to solo devourer and just run this mission in hard mode with other people since it is nice to get 2 per run
@@crazedmonk8udo you mind explaining your method a bit more? do you run sepulcher or magister lab on hard?
Why in the mf world would you go to the location if theres a mf machine in Albion to acces all activities
First of all, there's so many different components of the game, what are the crystallization catalyst and energy activator for exactly?
In warframe terms, it's the forma + orokin catalyst used for increasing your module capacity (again same as warframe with the mods)
This game is not destiny looked alike at all, it's warframe through and through
Catalyst are used to rest your weapons or descendants lvl for adding a specific mod type to decrease the cost of the corresponding mod. The energy is for a extra 20 mod power on your weapon and descendant for either stronger more costly mods or to add and mid max to your existing build
you use the crystallization catalyst on your descendant and/or weapons to socket mod types allowing for more mods to be used or upgraded(also resets your level like a prestige but sets capacity to 76)
Activators basically raise your max capacity of a weapon or descendant
@@zondor8123 Thanks for the response I was actually wondering how to get these items because I got one for free from the robot at the desk in Albion but I accidentally used it on a gun instead of my descendant and wasted it lol now I'm trying to get another. It definitely is Warframe they very similar
You can do the same thing on executioner the first boss on hard
u can do this on every boss. But devourer is the fastest and easiest to kill. especially as bunny or even ultimate bunny with high voltage mod
Within 5 runs of hard executioner I shit you not I got a stabilizer, 2 activator blueprints and 2 ultimate lepic catalysts lol WTF I just want the Python piece at 32%
in 15 runs, I got a 3% drop then a 6% back to back. Happy and mad at the same time since what I really needed was a 20% drop that just won't come. Bugged or something, took 20+ run to get it.
Is this only for hard mode?
Is their like a cooldown for bosses to drop the morph things when they die cause I b doin the fight n sometimes it gives me one sometimes it don’t
they dont drop them, you get them as a reward for finishing the mission
You get the Morphys through Missions / Instances THEN you need to kill the corresponding Boss to open the Morphy
How did you jump at the end if its disabled?
Different gameplay
If you already have the descendent, what you do with the itens?
Wait for trading to become a thing?
i never expected a f2p game to grip me this hard
Everytime u open a amorphous, spam click the item u want.
is this the new "spam a+b when catching a pokemon"?
dumb
Gonna try this today no joke XD
Hope they buff the % of getting them tbh
20% and 6% is good enought. energy activators are only needed a few unless u wanna max out everything which doesnt make sense.
i cant even solo devourer on hard so this really dont help much but good video
I am PlayStation I can’t select rewards like that. I am also brand new to game have like almost a week into it. Could use some help? Thanks for the videos
It needs to be on hard mode.
@@WShoup9818 thank you I am close to beating story hopefully I am on the 2nd to last island. Just one more mission.
@Chadly99 bro I can't even get past Hanged Man, primarily because I don't have enough catalysts, which RNG is not giving the blueprints for lol. Is it worth applying an energy activator to Thunder Cage to get some extra power?
That is exactly where I'm at 😂
It's basically the safest way to increase your power, whether it's for ad clear or dps
you got discord I can help you?
Use an assault rifle it does lots more damage than smg with no catalysts
What normal mode? I've spent no money and beat him solo with ajax, you don't need loads of catalyst.
Swamp walker is so good for getting it just make sure you run enzio cause he gives you 3% more chance in his hidden passive. Every 8 runs I get and activator
His passive has nothing to do with that 😅 it's only for encrypted vaults
idk if im lucky but i got 2 energy activators in 4 trys on devourerer on normal just farming for valby
How do you not know lol, it’s a 3 percent drop on normal. You are extremely lucky. Lol that’s like those videos on genshin you see when people get multiple 5 star characters in one ten pull you shoulda clipped it haha
There are much faster Dungeons with patterns for pyromaniac which is even faster than devourer
dont forget to let us know its in hard mode
Bro you can't even switch modifiers in normal, you drooling rn?
I had two actorvator bps before i knew wht they were
I literally can’t get past dead bride or whatever her name is. Been stuck for a few days. Got all my characters rank 40 but still getting shit on. And my rando level 13 teamates damn sure ain’t helping.
Just farm the same boss on normal for the 3% drop chance. Kill the boss in 10 seconds. Farm the material from the normal dungeon in 5 mins. I ran normal devourer 37 times today and hit 3 activators.
Yeah I think this might be better time wise I think? Because hard mode only has a 3 percent inc for activators and 5 percent for catalyst from amorphous if I remember correctly which is nothing. I think I'll give this a try tomorrow for 4 hours and report back what I was able to get if anyone is interested.
@@PremMajumdarVGi am
@@shadowbladez8555 alright I have to hold off on energy activators for today since I need catalyst bp gonna farm those today. But I'll do energy activators for sure tomorrow since Sunday. I'll report back than!
@@shadowbladez8555 ok short answer- catalyst- opened 20 got 2, activator- opened 39 got one.
Long answer. I farmed up 50 amorphous for catalyst and 100 for activator which both took around 5-6 hours each. Opened only 20 of catalyst got one on 9th drop and another on 11th than I stopped gonna refill amorphous back to 50 since I always like to keep a surplus. For activators got one on 39th and stopped since again gonna stock up to 100 again. Also I got bunny ultimate bp while farming for catalyst don't remember which one but 3 percent drop rate. The places I used are the one recommended on another guys channel called hakei.
@@PremMajumdarVGSo, how did it go?
“hard mode”… 😵💫 *still can’t even beat the game on normal yet*
Why Not?
Use Flat Fire, ice, Poison, lightning resistents Mod +7 and you have enough resistans for the bossfights.
Boost your HP instead of shield its way better and Skill the skillability on your thundercage
@@ichigomasaru for being the easiest Ultimate weapon in game to get it's pretty good overall main weapon for me, still need to build up its skill two more levels but I'm almost there. Honestly I don't see the point in going for the other Ultimate weapons, my Purples do just fine as a secondary..
Specifically the Co OP Scout rifle is so perfect
Tamer and it's easy
Dude that was exactly what i discovered today alone lol
8 days since release people already play at hard level
the first group to kill molten fortress (the last boss) needed 4 Days. U can get through the story in one day. Obviously not if you are casual.
No life’ing it.
Is no one making guides for stuff like this in normal mode?
normal and hard is the same hard mode just gives better rewards and drop chances
For normal (and arguably the fastest way to farm an activator anyways because of sheer speed) run the normal mission in Kingston it gives a 100% chance for the amorphous material 04 or 03 I think. Quick mission like 2-3 minutes, then go into normal grave walker (2-5 second kill) pop it for 3% chance at activator. I did this for about 3 hours and got one. Yes there’s definitely other ways like this to do it, the strategy I mentioned requires very little power and it’s super simple (extremely fast if you have a decent bunny build).
there is no need. Until you are done with the story, you are only wasting time grinding for this. u get 3 catalysts and 2 activators for free from the story and other sidequests. Just push through the story and then start grinding
Pssh I got that cheddar I'm buying them XD
How do we do this on normal mode?
Not only on hard
u dont. play story and dont worry about such things until u get to hardmode
@@ceadeusx I can’t complete the story without them I’m stuck on pyromaniac
@@shadowslicer3845 u can. Do him solo. Get hp up, def up and fire res mods in your decendant and enhance them as far as you can. That should be enough. Every colossus until hanged man is a simple gear check. Make sure ur gear is close to max level u can get. If you still struggle look out for components with hp, def or fire res.
@@ceadeusx for me i might have to finish the story just to have max gear and still solo the bosses later. On my 3rd descendant but haven't maxed them out yet. Did pyro with randoms and they were straight up dumb. A lvl 9 fired to freaking do pyro. LVL 9!!
Jump disabled? Grappling hook disabled? I'm assuming they didn't put this as an option on every dungeons ?
My energy activator blueprint 6% dont drop
I got 3 energy activators in one day using void shard reactors farmed 20 99 and 82 gather void shards bosses die in 30 seconds run I again
NO WAY MAN, this is a HUUUUUGE WASTE OF TIME! You Don't do it this way, you farm the infiltration event, get the amorphus and then use the reactor kill the boss and you get a 20% drop rate. You can farm the infiltration event 2-3 times every 5 minutes by going private and instance hopping. Then once you get X amount of amphorus containers you zip over to the reactor and spawn the weak boss and kill it. Each kill is 20% chance.
So uhh what about the void shards needed for a hard mode reactor
Honestly if I had to guess, the best move for the average player would be to just wait until they give them away or improve the grind for literally everything. You can 100% clear the entire game just by upgrading one descendant, and one weapon (obviously you're gonna have to add a couple of catalysts to your weapon/ descendant, or you'll never do enough damage, but luckily the game provides you with some for free). I'd personally rather quit the game until it's in a better state than grind my ass off for either a catalyst, energy activators, or other descendants.
I honestly have done everything story wise without using either a forma or reactor, and I'm clearing most hard mode ops. I am however at the point they're pretty much mandatory for survival and damage so ehhh. I don't wanna waste them until I get an ult though.
@@twilightgaming5023 I believe it's probably possible to go through the entire game without investing in your descendants. For example I can solo hard mode pyromancer with freyna with 0 investment on her. I'm not saying I can shit on it in the blink of an eye, but I can clear it on a decent amount of time.
The one thing you cannot neglect for most characters is your weapon damage. Anything less than an energy activator + 2 catalysts, and you'll be dealing negative damage by the time you reach the last few bosses xD
@@juakored but by the time u have more then that. And to be fair criticising a looter shooter game which whole concept is to be grindy for being grindy is a bit hypocritical. If people dont want to grind this is not a game for them. This does not mean that its ok to have really low droprates but 3% minimum is a joke. look at any gacha game or even many mmos they have drop chances of below 1% most of the time.
@@ceadeusx There's a right way and a wrong way to do things. Hopefully it'll improve in the future, and I can totally see the game improving a lot once they've implemented a trading system (much like Warframe's), but until then, objectively speaking the grind is specifically designed to discourage you from going through the boring, painful, and incovenient process of dealing with RNG, and just swipe your credit.
I'm not gonna get too much into it, but, there's a reason why Warframe has been implementing pity systems into their game. Even Gachas have. This game has none. That should tell you something.
you kill that boss BEYOND too quickly I don't even get him to 50% first life before I'm dead....
Wish they just make it easy like the forma from warframe, this game is not destiny looked alike.. Its warframe 100%
its pretty close to that tbh
Useful, yes.. BUT first you need to be VERY lucky to get to Hard mode at all. Before that you need find a good team to be able to defeat all Bosses.. Good luck with that. :/
Lets be real, the hardest part of this farm is finding one team of randoms that can clear Hanged Man even 1 time to get to the hard mode bosses (Still havent found them personally kinda gave up hope)
end game grind is so off putting
yea im about to quit because of it but i already sank money into it some im trying to get something back atleast.
use the red globe in albion for gods sake dont go teleportin to the map and clickin that stupid start mission thing
This guy don’t even know about the infiltration operations terminal cmon bro 😂
I swear it must be a thing for content creators to mispronounce words. This is the 4th person I’ve heard mispronounce Sepulcher. The funny thing is they literally say it at the beginning of the mission. 😂
sep-ulcsh-er? really bro? xD
Haha we cannot kill him 🤣
Not a good method unless you have maxed out gear already. I hate videos like this because this is meant for ppl with a completely maxed out character, it's why they don't show you their gear.
I ended up with 2 energy activators by the end of the campaign by extreme luck. Havent got one since 😂
We all get 2 from finishing story 😅
@@XORN-9 well then Im at net 0 lol
You’re acting like this is easy, this is a late endgame guide, and you’re only going to be doing this kind of damage if you’ve already grinded out multiple crystal catalyst and energy activations 😂😂😂
Normal mode is more efficient guys, no need to do hard mode, just farm magister lab in kingston.
Half the chance js
Dont waste ur time on this watch moxsy vid you get build catalysts and activator way faster
My god these comments. Its an end game farm because its for end game materials. You get given free activator and catalyst just by playing the story and that is more than enough to get you through to start end game. This is his "fastest" method of farming them, its not the only one. You can farm them on easy bosses and a heap of other shit.
He's simply explaining how he's farming end game materials in end game content as efficient as he can. I swear most people playing this game want everything just given to them. use your brain a little.
Thanks for the video's chadly, been following you since outriders and you always have great tips and information.
fIRST
I dropped the game because of them. Fucking devs... Warframe did way better job in forma
Quick correct! Sepulcher is pronounced Sep-Ul-Kur
and ''boi'' is spelt boy. Weeb.
@@stillhuman4662 Dang imagine being aggressive over nothing, genuinely insane LMAO
@@chaoticgoodboi793 like you festering over Sepulcher LMAOOOO
@@stillhuman4662 Huh? LMAO
@@stillhuman4662 Festering? It’s a single comment offering some help, not really sure why you’re bent out of shape. lol
Just play warframe if you want a better game than this
Warframe trash compared to this
gotta give this a thumbs down, lol
why the useless clickbait write hard mide only in tze damn title but u didnt have since u want to bait any player to this anyway it wont help them at all …
no fr like why are all these creators doing this shit, it’s always HARD MODE 😭
Normal infiltrate mission in Kingston = super easy 2-4 minutes and you get 100% 1x amorphous for grave walker (extremely easy boss) 3% chance for Activator drop. I did this for a few hours to farm one. Very good strategy
Booo hoo hoo he didn't type hard mode. Fn crybabym
you can litterally do the same on normal just with lower rates. Which is the reason you should stop looking things like this up and progress through the story. Farming before finishing the story just makes u slower
ugh, English 101.. you pronounced 'Sepulcher ' very wrong.