***Look at that Subwoofer MOVE!!!*** X-12"v.2 Woofer Test Wednesday at Sundown Audio
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Bench test of the Sundown Audio v.2 X-12" subwoofer. I push this thing to its limits and beyond on the bench showing of it excursion capabilities.
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#woofertestwednesday
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love my x 15. made a sq box for relatively flat extension to 30hz. sounds so clean. feels great too
Even 3 years late to the Sundown party 🥳 I'm really enjoying the informative videos. 👌 the bench is sweet BTW. Not that I wasnt peeking at Sundown Audio 3 yrs ago. I had a great experience with Wolfram Audio and look forward to having just as much fun if not more with SA
Wolfram out of business now
Like the addition of the term lab for woofer Wednesday
I had a pair of X-15s V2s on a Nendo BC5500 and I loved them. After box raise I clamped like 4400 out of the Nendo and the X-15s held up great. Keep it clean and they will last. I also really liked the Z-V3s I had. Sold them to buy the X-15s and still kicking my self for that one...
If you like the zv3 go with some U series 15s. They sound very similar
Bet you were wired to half on the nendo to clamp 4400...?
I have dual 4 Ohm subs and I had them running at 1 ohm. I did have it on 3 10" Soundqubed HDS3.1s at .67 and I pulled 4900+ watts on the meter. But I have 3 AGM Grp 31s and a 250 Amp Alt with 3 runs of 0 gauge running from the front to the back.
@@spuds7677 must have been an efficient enclosure. That's a damn good number to be running at 1 ohm. @ .67 my Apocalypse did about 3.5k. rising to around 2 ohms
Impressive. I purchased one a little while ago. Sundown subs just sound amazing. The things a beast. There is one problem. It’s tearing apart my new Lexus IS 300.
I should get mines in the mail today I'm soo pumped to see this beast
Here an idea because the laptop screen is small you put monitor on the wall that mirror the laptop screen.
I second this idea! Be a great improvement for your channel to be able to show us clear numbers even with a terrible camera operator (which is usually the case)
I'm switching out my 4-re audio sx18's after 7 years for 4 sundown x-12s I know it'll sound cleaner just hope it's still as loud.
Probably not with less than half the cone area lol
How bad did you kick yourself in the ass buddy after getting all into the bs sa hype
Let's see this sub in the box in the jeep on the meter! I love my Dave leib upgraded x12's
We need an X12v3 woofer test now
Wow 😳 badass sub is all I can say that excursion is ridiculous I've been in to car subs an car stereo systems since I was very young wish I knew how all the new subs are made and what brought people to make them this way they sound amazing the subs I remember that used to really get down was the Orion hcca and cadence beast an cerwin Vega stroker subs love the vids I could watch or tinker with car system's all day everyday
Thank you for all your videos keep up the good work
Camera man doesn’t know what to do.. lol.. you kep saying to get the power on camera but still backed up can’t see it lol
The view gets way better on the last sweep at 9min. You can see the power well.
I was jus sayin, lol cause you kept yelling camera man to get the view and he/she wasnt
OMG the video I been waiting for, I'll report back after I find time to watch it.. thanks...
camera man fail... I'd like to see it tested stock in the spl truck, then tested with the spl recone.. I'm thinking about getting the spl recones for my x12v2, would like to see a good comparison..
If you want to "smash the lows" don't get the spl options, stay with a stock X-series sub. If you want more punchy traditional sounding bass then get a U-series sub. The "spl" is just a term for making the suspension stiffer. It doesn't automatically make the subwoofer louder.
+Sundown Audio unofficial does it make the x series more musical like a u series? I already have stock x series subs, looking to play a little higher musically
The spl kits aren’t for lows. I’ve had x15s before spl kits and after and it changes the way it plays for sure. The megaroll v2 will get loud too.
+Steven Adams yea ok that's the answer I been looking for.. thanks man
All of your sub tests should be done exactly like you did the SA 15' V-2. That should be the ONLY WAY YOU TEST THEM!!! It actually gave us useful info instead of nothing but flex with no #'s......
Have all measuring tools in the room with you or keep them in their. A couple of tripods preset up so you know what we are seeing too. Thanks. Keep on keeping on. 🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🔨🔨🔨🔨
The NSV4 15 is what I'm waiting to see. They look sick. Can't wait 😀
Nsv6 is out now 🤯
Thanks Derrick I appreciate that it's nice to see how much power they are handling but I think we would all like to know at what frequency its handling that power not trying to be a pain in the as at all brother I see your trying to take care of all of us whining you tube watchers and I think we all prob watch most these on ower phone so that would mean that it would be important for you to get up close on those numbers bro thanks merry Christmas to all God bless all to thanks
It's a sweep so the frequencies vary across the spectrum from 20-80hz
Howcome u dont test it in the jeep? Really love to see that
The 133.8 DB you seen was when you blew into the meter itself.
That’s why it was the highest reading
It’s official. Derrick blows @ a whopping 133.8 DB.
Haha I had forgot that I even did that when looking at the peak spl at the end of the video.
Bass Mekanik has been in my radio since Download album.
It would be nice to have an SQ woofer like that with the mega surround that will work in a sealed box.....hint .hint!
tech808 the x series works well in sealed. Also for even better sq drivers look into stereo integrity. Sundown sister company
X series for life
Damn u torcherd the hell out that x frfr and u are a smooth talker cause I wanna see that nsv4 asap but I know u will make it happen
Like some of the other videos where u just put everything u can to it I want to see how much the x series can actually handle before it pops. I own an x15 on a sae 2k and I know this sub want more power. I know it will handle more power
I just bought 1 yesterday and it had foam in the box and not cardboard. Did sundown do a package change?
hi!... nice video.. keep it up.. ahm just want to ask since im new with my sundown xv2 12” can you please advise me what is the maximum amp power i can use for my sundown?.. thanks..
So how did it work out?
What's yalls best performing subs when it comes to loudness and handling lows I know all yalls products are great just can't decide which single 15 model I wanna go with
These subs are beasts.
This things is a beast!!!!
thanks nice test
Awesome Derrick
Its almost hitting double what its rated. Wow😯
Hi. I just purchased 2 x10 d4. I have them installed in a 3.1cu ft box ported at 34hz. Would you be able to tell me more or less where to set my amp lpf and subsonic filter. I've watched several videos and Can't seem to get it right. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
So awesome!! I just got 2 x 15’s, I can’t wait to get them hooked up just as soon as I figure out how to design the box so it’s like it should be and get it built. Enclosure building is new to me so I really need someone to show me how to design it the right way instead of just “building a box.” Anybody have anything that can help me with that?
Down4sound.com will get you taken care of for sub enclosures
Mitchell Scruggs I was asking for tips or somewhere to find better info on enclosure design. I do all my work myself, plus I don’t think down4sound will “ship” me a half walled enclosure for the back of my truck. Thanks anyway
How long can it take that power tho imma put a 3k taramps on minds I just got one 15"
Will it mess up the sound or bass if i had a little hole in the dust cover?
Probably not but a hole will crack and keep cracking as it shakes I had a crack I plastic sealed and it cracked within a day
Is it normal for the surround to make a V like that when it was hitting hard toward the end? Honestly not sure here lmao. I have 2 12 X V2s in my car and have noticed it myself..
yes, they have a high xmax so the v2 surround was designed for that reason.
@@f-150db8 okay wasn't sure if it was supposed to look like that
I have a Rockford 1500bdcp I'm going to run it at 1ohm so it's 1801 rms will that be enough for this sub or will it be under powered ?
How does it do. I have 2 xs and 2 rf. But i wanna really push em
Hey i have a question way off topic of this vid,
I Just got an x15 v.2 d2
Do you guys brake them in befor you send them out, or do i need to? I figured i need to. Also
Im using a Hifonics BXX2000.1D Brutus Class D 2000W RMS 1 Ohm Mono.
Will it work ok?
Just bought 2xv2 d 2 18,s I would love to see a test off them
I definitely need a bigger amp for my x12. The Pioneer GM D9601 just isn't enough anymore.
I wouldn't get anything under 2k for it, I run an x12 on a skar skv2.2500 at 1ohm, takes it all day and it has a clipping light.. also ran on a mechman 370a elite with only 2 yellow tops right now and dual runs of 1/0 ofc power and ground, it actually holds awesome voltage at 15v
Ok na I don't follow.. But I did just order 2 of the 12x V3 D2 had the stuffing but no stickers no spec sheet I mean I figured 1300 bucks I'd atleast get a sticker and maybe a lanyard. It was brand new sounded ok but for that much can a brother get a sticker or something to show...... Guess the people at Amazon took the stickers....
I’m planning on switching to 2-x15 s in my 4th order box on a salt4 when they come out . I’d love to see a video of the x15 in a box put under a stress test for like 5 min high wattage like I’ve seen you do some other subs
That’s my setup but 12s
Real One I ended up pushing my 2-x15 s with 2-scv6000 s one per each sub
Patrick kammer no way bro lol ain’t that to much
Real One it’s really dependent on your box I’m in a 4th order so I have more rise being efficient. My amps never see less then 15.3volts
Patrick kammer dam I can imagine!! I have a question I have the 2 12s sundown x and salt 4K and for electrical is the big 3 the limitless lithium cyber 6k and also the singer 270 it all goes In next week in a 4th order blow thru do you think it will get low and loud
Derrick do you take a damn day off lol. Love the vids & I still regret not getting the zv5 15s when I switched subs..... still might try em, wife's gonna kill me.
What'd you go with? I have ZV5's, Xv2's, and U series lol
@@DibeezyTheGifted I went with the Deaf Bonce SA415.
@@boodecarlo the one company and subs giving sundown a run for their money.
@@DibeezyTheGifted that's for sure! Hopefully they keep it up.
@@boodecarlo I don't think you'll have a single issue with those 4" coil subs. Especially with clean power.
Hi Derrick - going to be buying subs from you for my 2018 Lexus. Do you generally recommend facing Sundown subs front or rear fire? Have installed stuff for over 20 years now always rear fire, but “trunk walls” seem to be the latest trend. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance!
Rear fire for better sounding music. Forward fire with the box all the way to the back of the trunk for spl.
I got one of these and I got an SFB 1500d but the AMP doesn't work.. The clip light is constant, the power and protection lights just flash, tried the amp in another setup, didn't work. Tried a different cheap amp on my setup and it worked fine.
Damn. I just brought the sfb 8k last week.. Going to buy 4 sa10's for it. Or 2 x12's. Going into my Ivertye Road big Rig.
I would love to own 2 of these X12s but with five kids it's hard $600 each sub but I've heard there's financing available I don't know if that's with you or JP due to this pandemic if I dont have work soon and money changes how do you go about that just some questions I would like to ask an with that I can't guarantee certain payment's depending and I think many more are in the same boat as me but I've been told that even if I was to buy a less expensive sub or amp as long as they are in good condition we could use them as a trade-in for 80% of the value for our next set of subs and amps is that true if so that's the coolest thing I've ever heard of for car audio
Derrick would be good to see a 12 v 15 sub test in the jeep to see the difference cone area makes
There are already 15" and 18" tests of the same subs (SA and U) here on the channel. Check those out.
Can you please test the 10xv2?
Could I push 1 X12 2ohm with a sfb 3000d amp
How many watts should I put to my x15 v.3
Is 127.8db decent for one sub with one door open? Any suggestions on box?
Hallo derrick, i really enjoyed watching this video like i always do with your video’s. Ik would love to see the zv5 15 on the new test bench. I ordered a zv5 15 and a sae-2000D here in the netherlands, but got told the next shipment to the netherlands is in januari. Waiting almost 1 month for the paur. But i’m paitient enough and i hope the money is worth it
Ps: sorry for my bad writing
Honestly the sae 2k is a perfect match for the x series. I would have gone for the scv 3k to power the zv5.
Tyler Roth yeah i know. I wanted to power it with the scv3k but it was a little bit to expensive at the moment. For now i’m gonna power it with the 2k. In the future i’m planning to buy the scv-7500D and buy another zv5 15 for a dual 15 setup in a no-wall box so each zv5 is getting about 3250 watts then. My payment does not allow it at the moment lol. But still the 2k version did a peak of 4k on 14.5 volts and a 0.5ohms, so thats still pretty impressive. I got the dual 1 ohm version so i’m gonna put it at 0.5 ohms
And sorry for bad writing again haha
I know how u feel there. I wanted to get the scv3k as well but I cant afford 900 to drop like that lol the sae2k is a hell of an amp large footprint but very efficient.
Tyler Roth yeah i think it’s enoug bass for now. Within i hope 1 year i buy a new car, then i’m goine to wall 4 zv5 15s on the scv-75000D but till that time, the 2k is enough
Im running my zv5 12 on a sae 2k at .5 ohm does fine
All I know is I’m selling my jl sub and gettin me some sundown.
That's exactly what I did!..Sold my 2 JLw7 12s and picked up 2 Sundown 15 XV2s. LOVE the sound quality of the JLs but I just need to be LOUDER!
my package wasnt like that it was just styyrophome on top and bottom but there was paper stuffing
Plot twist it's really 2000rms ;)
Yup
Yup
Kirito Kazuto more like 2500-3000
Can i run the x series v1's with the x series v2's? I have 2 x10v1's and want to add more, but i can't find the v1's anywhere. Can i just add v2's instead? Or replace what i have?
Sorry if this was a dumb question. :/
i have A question that ive been wondering about for a while now.. if and when there will a x series v3?
for 10 12s and 15s
@@bradprice7032 in the beginning of the year or so you'll start seeing more information on this driver.
Do you build boxes for customers? If so... I would want a box for the NS-V4 15 tuned at 32hz! I was sold on the Zv5 15 but I see the NS-4 15 now! How much would it cost for the build and to ship it? That's if you guys build for individual customers!
i believe sundown might be selling the subs with enclosures in the future but that's just a maybe btw
John Taylor go to down4sound.com
Nsv4 18" in a 28hz box FTW
4GB MEANS 4GB that would be windy
See if you can get a Ground Zero Nuclear Series 12 to compete with Sundown
Mine was clipping what up with that everything was installed properly??
Probably need better electrical. Or your gain is up too high. What amp are you running it on? And also do you have stock electrical?
If I bought 2 of those what would you recommend me powering them with?
An SCV 4000.1d@.5
So did you get them?
Can I use a skar audio skv2 2500.1 amp for this sub or will it blow it? I’m looking to bump as a daily driver in reality I won’t be bumping all the time but when I do will it be safe to run that amp to this sub I already have the sub I have the skv2 1500.1 but I’m thinking of going with the 2500 instead?
Hector M you’d be fine at .5 ohms with that amp and sub
I got a Type X 15D2 on a SAE-1500. I also have a Banda 5K, im so tempted to see if that Type X 15 can handle that 5K! I would appreciate any thoughts anybody might have!
Most definitely will handle it
WERE IS THE NSv4 VIDEO????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Can you do TS measurements on camera?
Yes and I actually plan to make that and entire new weekly video series soon. Pull parameters do a break-in and pull them again.
Sundown Audio unofficial - Great idea, can’t wait!
would an sfb 8k at 0.5 be too much for two of these? obvi after rise it would be over 1ohm
Do not run an sfb amplifier at 0.5ohm
@@UnofficialAudio🔥
What’s the difference between X12 v2 and Z12 v3?
Z is the next up. Little louder and can take a little more RMS watts
camera angle sucked. that's a badass sub tho
The view gets way better on the last sweep at 9min. You can see the power well.
It wasn't doing 133db free air😂 it got up to like 107db free air it did 133 db when you blew in it.
he didn't reset it.. lol I know a girl that can blow a 190.6db
Yeah forgot I did that.
@@tankdog03ify what's her name haha send her my way I have some testing I need to do 😋
@@UnofficialAudio I think the max was 112 db free air.
4 dislikes must be skar audio fans
I have a sundown SE 12 inch duel 2 ohm sub and a SAZ 1500d amp , whats the best way to wire it up to 1 ohm load on amp ?
I made a Tech Time video all about that. Check it out here. ua-cam.com/video/UMBI-d5CWJ4/v-deo.html
Series to parelel
think these subs would take 3k daily?
Tyler this a bad ass sub but U will need a 6000 watt rms amp to combat impedance rise for them to get 3k ... short answer no ... they are rated 1500 W rms I would power one with a 2500 rms max set conservative especially in a ported box which is more efficient than sealed! The sub was taking almost 2k in then vid and was about to blow off the frame 😂☑️
@@uptobatentertainment lol the frame was fine
Hello,
I have this same subwoofer and a SAE-2000D AMP. How would you wire this and how would you set the settings on the amp?
Need a bigger amp. Sae2000 barely pushes my x10 at 1 ohm before clipping
I can't decide on the x12 or the zv5 12 ???????
If you want to keep your car looking nice get the X if you don’t care about tearing your car to shreds get the zv5
@@jacksonvinson9795 ... that sums it up alright. Thanks
Any thoughts on 2 sae3000d on a pair of x12v2d2 strapped to 6k?
How do you get a blackened voice coil?
Thats a stock voice coil when u buy the sub the upgrade is a nsv3 voice coil
@@csrgreedy7587 How are there voice coils blackened?
Is the X12 any better than the 12zvx skar
Was wondering the same. Hopefully he or someone with some REAL knowledge gives an opinion.
+Eddie Bonilla the zvx is an spl sub, the x series will do better on the lows I would say
+Eddie Bonilla then the skar vxf is like the U series, more musical.. I would say the zvx would be more musical too
Vid starts at 7:10
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I just bought a sundown xv2 15" and sa2000 watt amp and I'm not getting what I expected out of the speaker I've seen u take all your speakers fresh out the box and pound the sh** out of them im what I have done wrong or what should I do I've spent $2000 bucks on all sundown equipment and I'm not to happy
Are you not loud enough? Does your system shut down? It really comes down to correct tuning with amp and head unit, subwoofer box specs etc.. there could be so many reasons why your system isn't up to par. With your setup you should be shaking some homes.
@@youfukerme2 no I'm not loud enough my amp cuts off and it's not turned up all the way I'm getting a box built but I don't think that's fine stop my amp from cutting out
How much do u charge to build me a box
@@youfukerme2 no I'm not
@@curtisrosemond9414 Enclosure, you're also not feeding much power to these. Got a single 18 thats sounds 🔥
How about next time you do a 2 part video. maybe shoot both parts before you release part 1.
I explained why that happened in the video. Had I not put the part 1 out there would of been hate. Lose lose situation for me.
Sundown Audio unofficial guess you can’t please everyone. Didn’t finish watching this video honestly. How long before you can get around to the other part?
@@UnofficialAudio WERE is the to be continued from last WED with the NSv4?
Free air the x 12 on decaf music
Can u send me one woofer to Germany....ma father says i have to sell my x15v1 :(
Is my 2000 watt sae not enough power for it
So I dropped the ohms to 2 but my amp keeps cutting off help me please I've spent to much money for this to be happening
How did it come out ?
Poor surround is not liking that 20-25 hz at all especially with 2k
It's good!
Sundown Audio unofficial yeah I realize now that is part of the design to reach the low frequency extension it takes for 35hz and under! Hey I hav not been able to access the sundown audio website for a week now I’m on iPhone newest update and iPad on safari, haven’t tried windows ..
Yea everyone is aggravated. I know I am.
Up next : 46 minute videos
For a woofer test Wednesday put the Zv5 24 on some power.
The sub looks tiny ..
I've never had a reply once....
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Those terminals are too close for comfort!!
They scare me a lil too.
Camera man should try and do better, try to film something you want to watch
The view gets way better on the last sweep at 9min. You can see the power well.
I watched the whole video, just trying to help out by giving my thoughts is all
You kept telling us to watchthe power yet your camera never showed us anything about the power. Camera man avoided that shit so all we really learmt from this is that the sub has excursion. How about us actually getting to see the power being ran. That would be great!!!
The Dialog Volume in your videos is too low.
I'm working on that. Changed cameras and forgot to adjust the new one for my external mic. Trying to get it dialed in.
Sundown Audio unofficial awesome keep up the informative work🤓👊🏽
Hope you broke that sub in first . Lol
Cameraman does not follow directions very well.. Either its a 12yr old boy, or a woman..
It was a woman haha
@@UnofficialAudio Nailed it!! 😂
Man I'm still so mad about me wasting my money, tried to contact you but no reply. Almost unsubbed I'm so mad....
I'm thinking about buying this sub.. what was your problem with it?
@@chancequesnelle3140 no problem with this sub. I wanted to buy it but wanted to ask a question to compare subs so i bought the better one. But didnt get any reply so i went with another sub and if i would have got a reply i would have bought the sundown and should have. But again , no reply from sundown. Still mad about losing money that took forever to save....
Ill pass on this 12 for the cost vs power my subs cost same thing and takes min 2,500 watts just to get one of mine to move. not to impressed at all less then 110.0db on free air. for those who dont know to reach 100db is not hard at all as the average room is already at about 50-80 db including the noise in the room. hell a cars motor alone is almost at 100db. 100 db isnt loud at all. free airing a sub is actually easier on a sub as there is nothing to actually make the subs work as if it was in a box or wall with resistance. stick that sub in a box or wall and you would need alot more power to achieve the same results with the power he was pushing it during free airing it would blow the sub in a box or wall as he would have to put about twice the power to get the same result. no hating at all but you cant do a free air video and ave people thinking there gona see same results when the subs actually installed, its just not gona happen. put the sub in a box or a wall then re do the test to give viewers the actual numbers. free airing it more for breaking in the spider then anything which breaking in a spider is purely a choice thing. big red flag here is notice he said subs not even warm yet he forgot his heat gun ya ok sure, how you gona promote a sub push it and not be able to show the subs temp com on now. lmmfao for those who are gona buy the sub and never install it and just free air it which is pointless to even buy the sub then ok the video is for those people.
2500w just to get a sub to move sounds like a crappy subwoofer. But if you think yours is better then simply catch me in the lanes bro.
@@UnofficialAudio Really lmmfao take a look at orion's 12 in 124 black coil competition series subs, the subs are rated at 2,500 watts min which means less one is putting 2,500 min to the sub its not even gona start to actually move as n flex. they have been ranked the #1 best subwoofer for 2 years straight. in your video 2,000 watts on lows damn near maxed out the excursion of the Sundown Audio v.2. ive got dual 12in orion 124 black coil competition series subs on about 8k and there only doing half the excursion on lows there rated for. the Sundown Audio v.2 only weighs 60 lbs one of my subs weighs 100lbs you really wanna go down this road? orion actually has an amp made specially for the sub oh the amp they built for the sub pushes 10k true watts. you may wanna look into team orian who actually have pro spl builds there builds just for 6 15's is way more extreme then any sundown build ive seen. better yet look on here there are videos of sundown vs orion, orion smacks the shit outa sundown across the boards. when i see a sundown subwoofer actually breaking metal seams apart then ill start to be impressed because thats what orions subs do. theres videos on youtube of team orions pro builds actually breaking steel cabs. go look at thomas jester tarulli ranger hes running 6 15in orion subs and its actually ripping the steel apart on his truck.
@@ColdVenom159 Yes I wanna go down that road straight into the competition lanes. Catch me there with whatever Orion setup you want.
@@UnofficialAudio Sure be sure to be in the next one here in upstate Ny may be to far for you to trailer your setup lmmfao. we have daily drivers
@@ColdVenom159 Why I gotta come to NY? Meet me in Lousiville at Car Audio Finals with all the loud people. Or at least post a link to your competition stats with any respectable organization. My dB Drag stats can be found under Team Sundown Audio. Feel free to look them up.