We never saw Qui-Gon getting all flippy and agile because he modified form 4 to best suit his physicality, trading agility for power and strength. If you needed another reason to love Qui-Gon, he created his own sub-genre of form 4.
Ye he was using mostly ataru (form 4) like his master. But he still was switching as he was used towards the start and then switched to ataru when the style was working against maul
No offense but quite a few errors in your video Obi-Wan didn't use Soresu in Episode I, and only last like 30 seconds in episode II against Dooku since he was still training the form. Qui-Gon was older and thus lost most of his younger agility so he tried to up his power to compensate but he was still very aggressive and if you watch his duel with Maul he was actually the one doing most of the attacking until he started tiring out. Ataru was actually horrible at blaster bolt deflection as it was designed to be purely offensive. Most of the Jedi who died on Geonosis were Ataru users. Ahsoka actually used the Shien version of Form V which you could tell my how she usually had at least one of her saber's in the reverse grip a trademark of Shien. She lacked the physical power that the Djem So variant required. Niman was a mix of the 5 forms that came before it, in fact some say Makashi wasn't included, but it was not a mix of the previous 7 it can't be a mix of itself.
Kit didn’t use or combine Forms 3 or 5 with his Shii Cho. Kit Fisto was the master of Shii Cho.He also used Ataru. Coleman Trebir didn’t use Soresu. He used Niman. Those were mostly Niman practitioners who died in that arena. Maul didn’t use Niman or some moderated Form of it Maul used Juyo against Qui Gon and Obi Wan. In the duel with Sidious and with Savage. Sidious and Maul used Juyo against each other. Maul knows Niman but prefers to use Juyo. The Grand Inquisitor also used Juyo. There were 4 people who Knew Vaapad Mace Windu Sora Bulq Depa Billaba and Quinlan Vos. Depa was a master. Sora helped to create Vaapad and was later mastered by Vaapad. Not an angry rant just tryna help you out.
I just love your vibes dude. And yes, the VOICE/cadence too! No doubt you heard every single weed jokes because of it ;) But honestly you're lucky : An AI will never be able reproduce it, it's too... human! And the content of course is great too, good work. Got my sub.
“He got merked by Anakin pretty quick so, no.” I’d hope so it’s KFV damn lol. But even then I imagine it would be extremely difficult to be emotionally stable, have 100% focus(physically and mentally)in your form when you’re seeing two of your students being murdered right in front of you and the entire temple with all of your family being slaughtered.
Cin Drallig was a master in all forms, but never specialized in a single style or combined the styles to best suit his preferences/talents, instead he was the instructor for all seven and was very good at his job, but as a Jedi Battlemaster, he was absolute shit compared to his predecessors yet again that was during the wars against the Sith. What need does a Battlemaster have for actual battle experience when there were no wars during his raising, training, or for most of his adulthood? As such, he never had to improvise and all his fights were in controlled settings. It is like the difference between a Competitive Fighter and a proper Warrior, even if the Warrior had far less training they are by far the more likely to win against an opponent whom has ONLY known training.
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That is the point of the form though you conserve your energy and just make quick precise hits that slowly cripple your opponent, though he could ramp up his speed and power when needed such as when he was outnumbered
@digitaladventurer2142 IT was made by The sith and count dooku used IT slowely IT was meand to Be used fast and strenght but The some users used IT slow
Coleman Trebor was a form 3 master? I thought he was a form 6 master. But that's a topic where a lot of retcons happened, so what do I know? (I think the worst user of form 3 might have been Luminara) Agen Kolar is for sure NOT the worst user of form 5.
Nah Luke's problem was he was always able to keep calm even in combat, Djem So actually worked best when you were aggressive. We see this in Return of the Jedi when Vader threatens to go after Leia and Luke goes off on him.
I was under the impression that it was his victory over maul in the phantom menace and seeing qui gons death that made him start to shift forms. In large part due to seeing form 4s inadequacy.
No offence but there are rivals to some of these listed. Form 1 kit fisto/lucian dray Form 2 count dooku/tulak hoard Form 5 darth vader/ulic qel droma and darth malgus. Form 6 exar kun/darth krayt and you could also include revan.
Put some respect on Qui gons name the man was in his 60s when he fought maul. And held his own for a long time. He modified his style to accommodate his age. I believe a young gin would destroy maul. Remember he was dookus apprentice
Form I- Kit Fisto Form II- Tulak Hord Form III-Either Obi Wan or Darth Bane Form IV-Yoda Form V- Legends Luke Form VI- Either Exar Kun or Revan Form VII Juyo-Darth Sidious Vapaad-Jaina Solo
That's non canon ,it never happened in legends or Disney canon ,it's a rumour from a game , canonically plo koon was inferior to jedi dooku who's stated to be the second most powerful jedi of the order after Yoda during his time ,Anakin defeated a stronger dark side dooku @@jakobdavid2102
No offence but there are rivals to some of these listed. Form 1 kit fisto/lucian dray Form 2 count dooku/tulak hoard Form 5 darth vader/ulic qel droma and darth malgus. Form 6 exar kun/darth krayt and you could also include revan.
Tulak Hord is featless and lived in a time when lightsaber combat was primitive. Literally most Form 2 users that came after him would be better duelists than him.
@TheStarWarsLoremaster was not considered the best fight of his time and defeated opponents such as fellow sith lords, jedi and gendai. Didnt also lift a siege singlehandedly. Plus kreia makes special mention of him when talking to meetra surik when talking about the prowess of the old masters.
No offence but there are rivals to some of these listed. Form 1 kit fisto/lucian dray Form 2 count dooku/tulak hoard Form 5 darth vader/ulic qel droma and darth malgus. Form 6 exar kun/darth krayt and you could also include revan.
Which Lightsaber Form would you possess?
Ataru definitely
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@@SonofgezergozerAtaru is my favorite as well.
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We never saw Qui-Gon getting all flippy and agile because he modified form 4 to best suit his physicality, trading agility for power and strength. If you needed another reason to love Qui-Gon, he created his own sub-genre of form 4.
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Obi-Wan wasn't a form 3 practitioner during his duel against Maul
Ye he was using mostly ataru (form 4) like his master. But he still was switching as he was used towards the start and then switched to ataru when the style was working against maul
That fight is the reason why he started using form 3. He saw his master getting tired during the fight, the same thing with himself.
No offense but quite a few errors in your video
Obi-Wan didn't use Soresu in Episode I, and only last like 30 seconds in episode II against Dooku since he was still training the form.
Qui-Gon was older and thus lost most of his younger agility so he tried to up his power to compensate but he was still very aggressive and if you watch his duel with Maul he was actually the one doing most of the attacking until he started tiring out.
Ataru was actually horrible at blaster bolt deflection as it was designed to be purely offensive. Most of the Jedi who died on Geonosis were Ataru users.
Ahsoka actually used the Shien version of Form V which you could tell my how she usually had at least one of her saber's in the reverse grip a trademark of Shien. She lacked the physical power that the Djem So variant required.
Niman was a mix of the 5 forms that came before it, in fact some say Makashi wasn't included, but it was not a mix of the previous 7 it can't be a mix of itself.
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Not my fault that they are unskilled.
@@DBBH66 I agree
Kit didn’t use or combine Forms 3 or 5 with his Shii Cho. Kit Fisto was the master of Shii Cho.He also used Ataru.
Coleman Trebir didn’t use Soresu. He used Niman.
Those were mostly Niman practitioners who died in that arena.
Maul didn’t use Niman or some moderated Form of it Maul used Juyo against Qui Gon and Obi Wan.
In the duel with Sidious and with Savage. Sidious and Maul used Juyo against each other.
Maul knows Niman but prefers to use Juyo.
The Grand Inquisitor also used Juyo.
There were 4 people who Knew Vaapad Mace Windu Sora Bulq Depa Billaba and Quinlan Vos.
Depa was a master.
Sora helped to create Vaapad and was later mastered by Vaapad.
Not an angry rant just tryna help you out.
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I just love your vibes dude.
And yes, the VOICE/cadence too! No doubt you heard every single weed jokes because of it ;)
But honestly you're lucky : An AI will never be able reproduce it, it's too... human!
And the content of course is great too, good work.
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I plan to. Gotta spread the gospel you know.
“He got merked by Anakin pretty quick so, no.” I’d hope so it’s KFV damn lol. But even then I imagine it would be extremely difficult to be emotionally stable, have 100% focus(physically and mentally)in your form when you’re seeing two of your students being murdered right in front of you and the entire temple with all of your family being slaughtered.
If I was a Jedi I would love to learn every form. Though my favorites are form 5 and 7/Vaapad.
Cin Drallig was a master in all forms, but never specialized in a single style or combined the styles to best suit his preferences/talents, instead he was the instructor for all seven and was very good at his job, but as a Jedi Battlemaster, he was absolute shit compared to his predecessors yet again that was during the wars against the Sith. What need does a Battlemaster have for actual battle experience when there were no wars during his raising, training, or for most of his adulthood? As such, he never had to improvise and all his fights were in controlled settings. It is like the difference between a Competitive Fighter and a proper Warrior, even if the Warrior had far less training they are by far the more likely to win against an opponent whom has ONLY known training.
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count dooku never used full speed or full strenght while using form 2 he only used the form slowly
That is the point of the form though you conserve your energy and just make quick precise hits that slowly cripple your opponent, though he could ramp up his speed and power when needed such as when he was outnumbered
@digitaladventurer2142 IT was made by The sith and count dooku used IT slowely IT was meand to Be used fast and strenght but The some users used IT slow
Coleman Trebor was a form 3 master? I thought he was a form 6 master. But that's a topic where a lot of retcons happened, so what do I know? (I think the worst user of form 3 might have been Luminara)
Agen Kolar is for sure NOT the worst user of form 5.
Honestly cin drallig is just wrong he was the vattlemaster of the order ehich would make him like top 3
Wouldnt the best form 5 user be Luke?
Prime Luke is a beast
Arguably yes. Like father like son.
Nah Luke's problem was he was always able to keep calm even in combat, Djem So actually worked best when you were aggressive. We see this in Return of the Jedi when Vader threatens to go after Leia and Luke goes off on him.
I was under the impression that it was his victory over maul in the phantom menace and seeing qui gons death that made him start to shift forms. In large part due to seeing form 4s inadequacy.
That would make sense. For some reason I thought Obi-Wan used form II in The Phantom Menace.
No offence but there are rivals to some of these listed.
Form 1 kit fisto/lucian dray
Form 2 count dooku/tulak hoard
Form 5 darth vader/ulic qel droma and darth malgus.
Form 6 exar kun/darth krayt and you could also include revan.
darth krayt easily
None of the alternates you've listed are in any movies
Put some respect on Qui gons name the man was in his 60s when he fought maul. And held his own for a long time. He modified his style to accommodate his age. I believe a young gin would destroy maul. Remember he was dookus apprentice
Stronger defense and using the opponents hated and darkside power against them unstoppable 😊
Exur kun never lost a duel
Plo koon was goated
Form I- Kit Fisto
Form II- Tulak Hord
Form III-Either Obi Wan or Darth Bane
Form IV-Yoda
Form V- Legends Luke
Form VI- Either Exar Kun or Revan
Form VII Juyo-Darth Sidious
Vapaad-Jaina Solo
I'd use form 3 and 7 vaapod
I think just talking lightsaber skills plo koon is a better form 5 user than anakin
I disagree, dooku even said he was the finest form 5 practitioner he ever seen. He would of known plo due to plo age
@callumebbrell9488 but plo was the only jedi ever to beat yoda in a sparing match
That's non canon ,it never happened in legends or Disney canon ,it's a rumour from a game , canonically plo koon was inferior to jedi dooku who's stated to be the second most powerful jedi of the order after Yoda during his time ,Anakin defeated a stronger dark side dooku @@jakobdavid2102
The Grand inquisitor was From 2, and Deba Bilaba was form 3, no?
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Cal kestis for the win lol
Do more research before you discuss these forms and the best and worst users
No offence but there are rivals to some of these listed.
Form 1 kit fisto/lucian dray
Form 2 count dooku/tulak hoard
Form 5 darth vader/ulic qel droma and darth malgus.
Form 6 exar kun/darth krayt and you could also include revan.
Tulak Hord is featless and lived in a time when lightsaber combat was primitive.
Literally most Form 2 users that came after him would be better duelists than him.
@TheStarWarsLoremaster was not considered the best fight of his time and defeated opponents such as fellow sith lords, jedi and gendai. Didnt also lift a siege singlehandedly. Plus kreia makes special mention of him when talking to meetra surik when talking about the prowess of the old masters.
@ He lived in a time when lightsaber combat was primitive and crude. Only form 1 and 2 existed in his time.
No offence but there are rivals to some of these listed.
Form 1 kit fisto/lucian dray
Form 2 count dooku/tulak hoard
Form 5 darth vader/ulic qel droma and darth malgus.
Form 6 exar kun/darth krayt and you could also include revan.