The 300 Weatherby is probably the best elk cartridge on the planet. I80 grain Accubonds at 3150+ fps does the job quickly and humanely with a well placed shot. Loaded down to 3100 fps using 150 grain Accubonds and Partitions is an excellent whitetail, mule deer and pronghorn cartridge too. I wouldn't trade my 1960s Made in Germany Mark V for a new one. Just a Great Rifle !!!!!
The 300 WBY has actually been chambered in quite a few domestic rifles in decades past - prior to all the newer non belted magnum type cartridges hitting the scene. You could say the 300 WBY's heyday was well before the turn of the century. Many, and I do mean many, hunters have been obsessed with the performance of the 300 WBY. But any way you slice it, the 300 WBY is an awesome cartridge, I don't care who you are. It was the fastest 30 caliber magnum ( in a factory cartridge ) for a very long time. It's still not far from the top. And yet it's not ridiculously over bore like the other two you mention. I think the reason it's not as popular as the 300 WIN is because of the length of the cartridge being too long to work through many rifle actions. Weatherby ammo is indeed expensive, but Remington and Hornady, among others, have made more affordable ammo for it. Personally, I would have picked the 257 WBY over the 300 WBY for being over rated, along side the 30-378 and 6.5-300. But this was still entertaining. And to think this was a result of the 7PRC guys getting offended.
My favorite cartridge is my 6.5x300 bee. I don't care how much powder it needs of US869 it's gonna go freakin fast. I am working up a load now wit US869 and 153.5 berger hybrids and i am just over 3250 with zero pressure. I have my next ladder going forward when the weather cools off a bit more. 3350 shouldn't be hard to get but will see where i find pressure. It's an amazing cartridge and worth every grain of powder and throat lost. Barrels are cheap. Long live the 6.5x300 bee. Oh just purchased a 338-378 weatherby. Yehaw love this weatherby addiction 😂❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I still may buy a 300 Wby Mag Mark V someday. That being said, when putting together a semi-custom rifle from E.R. Shaw for my son as a college graduation present, although I briefly considered both the 300 Wby Mag and the 300 RUM, I went with the 300 Win Mag because of shootability and affordability/availability/variety of factory ammo. Also for these ridiculously overbored cartridges like the .30-.378 and the 6.5-.300 - Weatherby really should offer 28” or even 30” barrels to wring the most out of what a hunting rifle in these cartridges can do. No one who buys a .30-.378 or 6.5-.300 is looking for a carbine, so why not give them the flattest-shooting hunting guns available?
Embrace the hate! I’m all about 7mm’s and I will say the 7 PRC is a very good cartridge but it is over hyped. I know they said gunpowder issues but whatever. I new cartridge’s chances of catching on is based on getting Hornady’s blessing. Ex: 6.8 Western. Excellent cartridge no support. I disagree on one cartridge; the 300 Weatherby is far from over hyped!
There are also a TON of lies out there saying people are getting like 2600fps. I'm easily getting over 2800fps with a 20" barrel. Most people shooting Federal are getting 3000 if not more.
@johnkaraphillis754 Acquired 7mm "STW" mag, Winchester Md 70 as 50th birthday gift to myself then for Moose run Northern Quebec. Have, 243, 257, eyes on 270, though teetering on fence with 6.5-300. Could say, in-between shirt size. Life is short. Whatever floats your boat. "Tempus fugit memento mori". Cheers.
For anyone who shoots Weatherby rifles, ammo costs should not be an issue, IF you reload. It costs little or no more to reload than similar mag Winchester and Remington calibers. Save and/or buy some brass, anneal the necks after a few cycles. There are other rifle brands that use Weatherby ammo. Remington has made them in their custom line of 700s such as the 7mm, and they also can sell their brass in those calibers. Few years ago I bought 100 Rem 7mm Weatherby cases for the same as their 7mm Rem mag cases. No matter what center fire rounds you shoot or see, save them to reuse or trade.
In the past: it was a Rolex vs a $300 watch… cartridges- they both do similar things but one is a premium version … in todays world of off the shelf accurate cartridges/rifles… it may get displaced. Weatherby Mark V’s were in kids dreams like a sports car. Writers wrote about them in periodicals and they were a must see at the gun shop …… I remember the complete Weatherby cartridge displays when I was a young dude… seeing the 30-378 for the first time - wow! We currently live in a 6.5 CM world. How things change.
On the 7 prc I personally don’t like them same with 7mm rem mag as much. We see reflection a lot in those. Me personally cartridges that are overrated are the new ones that everybody and their brother is talking about. Will these said rounds be around for decades to come maybe. Will they be the best new thing maybe. Do they do the job yes but in my experience I tend to stick with the cartridges that are common and will always be available. A round that doesn’t get a lot of attention is the 257 Roberts and 257 weatherby mag. Both excellent rounds.
That’s crazy you said that the .257 Roberts. I’m 41 years old I’ve never even heard of that gun before. Awhile back I was working with some guys and talking about hunting. One guy said I have a gun I’ll sell you. I asked what it was said he didn’t know next thing I know he wanted in the door with it. It was a Winchester model 70 pre 1964. 1959 with a serial number check I bought that gun for $450 dollars. Shoots great.
@@hunt1198 the 257 Roberts is a lesser know cartridge but it is a great round. I remember on a bear drive we kicked one up and I shot it 4 times with my 308 and the guy next in line took one shot from his 257 Roberts and dumped the bear in its tracks. I was like damn.
Just picked up a box of 300 weatherby spent brass in original box!!! Ya know the box with the tiger on it, South Gate Cali. Gonna resize em to 8mm mag. The box would be a nice collector piece for a weatherby nut!
This is the first time I’ve ever heard anyone characterize the .300 win mag as anemic. On a different note, this video has inspired me. I have been thinking for a while that there should be a market for what is essentially a bull pup single shot rifle. Imagine a rifle with a falling block action, the frame sits about the center of the barrel, and the action goes all the way to the rear shoulder or beyond (the barrel could actually sit on the shoulder. I am imagining a rifle that weighs 8 lbs with a 36” barrel, and 4” suppressor in a 40” overall length. That’s 4.5” shorter than a Weatherby Mark V, with an extra 10” of barrel! I imagine the guys who really like magnums would REALLY like this.
Would love to see you work with the 7mm WBY Mag. You have a lot of the .30 cals as it is. Would love to see you build up the 7 WBY and make it perform better than a 7 PRC with the larger bullets, or see if it will not stabilize.
I once had a Model 70 Winchester in .300 Winchester Magnum that I handloaded to .300 Weatherby velocities on a constant basis.(It loved 🔥loads!)I never had any signs of over loading,ie...flat or blown primers,sticking bolt,.....ect.
I would argue the barrel burner factor. Typically a gun that burns barrels is not the type that people shoot all weekend long. That being said, I don’t mind barrel burners because sighting in once a year and hunting might burn 20 rounds… so those type of rifles can last a long time if your not just pumping rounds through it all the time.
Why respond in kind to hand wringing 7mm PRC fan boys. There are lots of cartridges equal to or superior to the cartridges I use regularly - i just dont care enough to become upset about that fact.
I absolutely love my Mark V in 270 weatherby...Ive also been thinking 6.5-300 but the 4-500 round barrel life isnt its strong point for sure. I sure do like the Mark V deluxe.😍🤔
I tend to prefer the other end of the spectrum from Weatherby and gravitate towards the cartridges of maximum efficiency. The 7x57 was a military round designed to be fired over and over from a soldier’s gun without overheating the barrel and burning it out (within reason of course) and giving decent velocities while burning the least amount of powder and a recoil that won’t cause a flinch to a fatigued shooter. The forethought that went into getting it just right is what I appreciate about a cartridge.
From early on, Roy Weatherby marketed his products more toward the “elite”. The proprietary nature and cost of Weatherby rifles and ammo along with their opulence and exclusivity were often somewhat prohibitive to the average blue collar sportsman. This was an issue along with the economic conditions of the 50’s sand 60’s. It was due to this that many were either oblivious or just less familiar with what Weatherby was all about or the performance characteristics they offered. Take for instance the 7MM Weatherby. First emerging in the early 1940’s, its velocity, range and energy characteristics are more comparable to the 300 Winchester mag. Still, there is little or nothing mentioned about it in any of the major hunting publications of the time. Remington didn’t introduce their version of the 7 mag until the 1960’s. Once they did, it took the market and was widely discussed by the likes of writer and hunter Warren Page as well as numerous others. Many wrote of excitement over the cartridge without any recognition that Weatherby’s more powerful version had already been around for over 20 years. The lonely 7 MM Weatherby never took off with the consumer market like other Weatherby cartridges did, and certainly not like Remington’s version. In no way does this reflect the impressive performance of the Weatherby 7MM. Some of the same phenomenon exists to a degree with the 300 RUM more recently. After the release of the RUM in 1999, many spoke of how powerful and impressive the cartridge was and how it was the fastest and impressively accurate at long range. They praised the cartridge as groundbreaking with seemingly no recognition or notice that it only actually has a 60-90 fps advantage over the Weatherby cartridge. The big Weatherby was apparently the big smile on the face of Weatherby shooters for a long time already and was known to them before the end of WWII. Is the 300 RUM a great cartridge? No question! But for an insignificant advantage in velocity and slightly more powder capacity, barrel life drops like a rock! Is it worth it? Everyone has to decide such things for themselves. I have no desire to malign the 300 RUM, but if we engage in comparison as part of our discussion and research, it’s important to know the facts.
Another factor that influenced the market for hunters going back to WWII is the many great writers of the major hunting and shooting publications. The likes of Jack O’Connor, Bob Milek, Elmer Keith, Warren Page, Craig Bodington, Peter Hathaway Capstick and so on. All of these fellows contributed their vast knowledge In reviews of rifles, cartridges and hunting. Many of them are no longer with us to provide their vast wisdom and knowledge. Hunting and shooting was what they did for a living. When they gave their opinions on various rifles and cartridges, most of us paid attention. When they wrote about what they liked and what they didn’t, it mattered a lot! It is sad that many of these great gentlemen are gone. Because of their absence and lack of guiding knowledge may be some of the reason we become involved with engaging in such a ridiculous discussion as to suggest that the.300 Weatherby is overrated.
for a gun channel it sure is shocking how many Karen’s are in the comments 😂😂. He’s getting the velocities he’s getting and talking about it ..if this hurts your feelings you’re not a true rifleman . I love seeing the differences in cartridges and I appreciate a channel like this with a guy taking the time and money to do this for us all .
Calibers are like vehicles. Some people love hot roads 6.5-300, some people love big trucks with towing power 300 wby. Personally I love fuel efficiency like 223, 7mm-08, and 300 wsm.
Oh my, a channel named “Reloading Weatherby” talks positive about weatherby cartidge?! Hehe i accept this apology video. .. Just kidding i love your stuff, embrace the criticism, it means hou are making people think! Cheers!
Gosh, I love my 6.5-300 Weatherby! But it’s totally overrated! It’s unbelievably inefficient, expensive, and crazy tough on the barrel. But it sure is fun and sure puts animals down in a hurry! Once I burn out the barrel I’ll be getting a new one in 300 Weatherby instead though lol 😂
i am really thinking 338 rpm with 185 gr Barnes or 175 hammer hunters. 270 win is just to easy to get sub moa and pushing velocity over 3200 isn't hard. Happy b day.
Those are all the reasons to want one. I have the 300 WBY and the other two I want. I would go with the 416 WBY, the 460WBY and the 224 WBY as not really needed for what they do.
WEATHERBY always had the top ballisticly performing cartridges. The only downside was the high price of the Weatherby ammo and the Mark V rifle. Only the wealthy hunters bought a Weatherby rifle and it was mostly in 300 Weatherby next would be the 257 Weatherby.
You know, I must object. Honestly, the reputation of the 300 Weatherby over 80 years now is beyond impeccable. It is among one of the finest long range hunting cartridges in the world! Truth! Any conversation that suggests it is overrated is not a serious conversation. Such a suggestion completely ignores the records of history. That’s regardless of what brand anyone likes or dislikes. Just because a few brand loyalists don’t like Weatherby doesn’t mean that we rewrite the facts. I’ll be more than willing to debate this issue.
The 6.5 300 definitely is crazy expensive for the price and barrel life. For wat u end up spending in the end result u can get more caliber testing done with other cal rifles.
The 300 Weatherby is the only reason that Weatherby is in business. Many rifles far superior to the Mark V are available. Ammo is widely available. Is it some kind of barn-burner? No, but it is almost the perfect fit and I think Roy knew this. Recoil and muzzle blast are a wee more than the 300 Win Mag, but tolerable with just a little more practice. Beyond this are the 30 Nosler, 300 RUM, and 30-378 Weatherby,, all of which are significantly more punishing with not a lot more ROI for 95% of us. To me, the most overrated Weatherby cartridge is the 338-378. With less than 100 FPS advantage over the 340 Weatherby on a good day, brutal recoil, and subpar accuracy to the 338 Lapua, I don’t see it. If you really want Thor’s Hammer that shoots as flat as a 270 Win the 378 Weatherby has no competition.
@markcox I must vigorously disagree with a number of your statements. To suggest that the only reason Weatherby exists is due to their 300 is very short sighted. It tells me that you may have less familiarity with many cartridges in the Weatherby line. If you’re not a big Weatherby proponent, that’s all fine and good, but based on performance in ballistics, Weatherby has numerous stand outs that have been cost prohibitive to some and misunderstood overall. I’ve repeatedly posted this my argument about the 300 RUM. With all components being equal, such as bullet weight, barrel length, optimum load & so forth, the 300 RUM has up to 90 fps advantage over the 300 Weatherby. The difference is not recognizable in the field. Still there are many that don’t know this. Other Weatherby cartridges that have impressive performance include: 270, 7MM, 340, 257, and 460. These cartridges have a reputation not only for performance ahead of their time, but outstanding accuracy as well. If you were unaware of this, then your knowledge or experience with them may be less compared to some other cartridges. There are historical records of the success of these cartridges I have named and each of them have earned the impressive reputation from a ballistics standpoint. To really know them is to love them.
@@douglasborgaro6801 Weatherby would not survive in its current state without the 300 Weatherby. It is by far the most popular cartridge/ammo followed by the 257. The others trail significantly behind in sales. For the record, I own all of the Weatherby cartridges except the 224 and the 416.
@markcox I don’t know if I can totally explain it, but I actually feel better after hearing you say this. Based on how Weatherby started early on and the target audience of their marketing it seems that they limited themselves a bit out of the gate. Nonetheless, based from the narrow viewpoint of ballistic performance by itself, I believe that there were numerous calibers developed by Weatherby that have a profound impact on the world of rifles and cartridges. I do understand and agree the impact that the 300 Weatherby has had on their marketability and the company as a whole.
@@douglasborgaro6801 They are all wonderful cartridges, some more wonderful than others. My personal favorite is the 7mm Weatherby even though it is definitely low on the popularity list. Semper Fi mate thank you for your service.
@markcox You know, now that you mention the 7MM Weatherby, there is a very interesting history about this cartridge. It emerged in the early 1940’s with ballistic performance that was literally generations ahead of its time. Because it was proprietary and a bit more spendy than other cartridges of the day, you didn’t see or hear anything about about it in the big hunting publications of that time. It wasn’t until the 1960’ s that Remington introduced its 7 Mag, which was ballistically inferior to the Weatherby by a recognizable margin. With Remington’s introduction, it was as if many never knew such a thing existed and many praised it as groundbreaking. Go figure. It never got the accolades it deserved and even today there are plenty of fellows that are oblivious to how truly great it is!
I'm sorry, you can't overrate anything because of the original purchase amount and its availability, you can only overrate something on ability. Meaning, if you can do the same task with amunition X instead of ammunition Y, with the same results. If X can do it just as good (or God forbid even better) than Y could perhaps be overrated. In my humble opinion, Wby cartridges are not overrated at all, they are Magnum loads, and they do have the extra FPS (and recoil) to prove it. Bullett availability is constantly increasing, and there are several non Wby rifle makers that offer Wby chamberings. I get a lot of crap as well, because the younger techno crowd loves hyped up techno stuff, so they really get offended when you prefer old-school anything.
If the 300 Weatherby is overrated I'm 10ft tall, bullet proof and play water-polo on the back of a unicorn, in the whitewater rapids of the Colorado River. Google be damned. My 300 Weatherbys have served me well for 40 years on 4 continents. I have no plans to give them up. With that being said, at one time I switch to a 300 Win just because 300 Weatherby ammo was hard to find in 180 grn in my area. Did I notice a difference? No, not really and neither did the game. I don't think I've noticed a difference in any of my 300 (Win. WBY, RUM, WSM). Heck unless the shot is long for iron sights the little old 300 Savage gets it done. I will say the 300 WBY was the king of the magnum mountain for 50+ years. It did set the stage for everything that came after WW-II in the magnum and high-speed cartridge world. Love it or hate it, give the old girl her dues. Cheers, Jeff
One Weatherby cartridge that has crazy down range energy is the 416 Wby with 350 gr. TTSXs. In comparing factory loads, this cartridge has more energy than the 378 Wby out to 500 yds! And this cartridge has just a bit less energy at 200 yds. compared to a 338-378 Wby at the muzzle! Almost 5,000 ft. lbs. at 200 yds!! Insane down range energy! Out to 500 yds anyway.
7prc Christensen mesa fft 175 eldx fed 215gm and 69.9 gr of ramshot grand and hornady brass. I’m getting 2990 avg. 22 inch barrel with only around 50 rounds through it and it shoots under 3/4 moa
According to African Proffesional hunter Dr Kevin Robertson , he thinks 460 weatherby is overkill , a client used it ( i cant remember words exactly ) and 1 barnes bullet moving out of 460 weatherby went through 3 dangerous buffalo ..... they didnt see the other buffalo behind the first
Your over rated list is my top 3 list lol. Love my 30-378 and there’s a used 6.5-300 terramark and a 300 deluxe that have been both calling my name every time I stop in there.
Theres only one actually popular or successful Weatherby cartridge and thats the 300weatherby. Its not overrated, its very good. For me the only Weatherby cartridges that hold my interest are the 300wea, 340wea, and the newer 338RPM. All others dont do much for me.
Hey bro I’m gonna come up to bat for u, PRC sucks in my opinion. Proof is in the data u showed. It’s not up to the hype, will it kill stuff, yep it will. There are better 7s out there I am sticking to the 7Rem mag for now. Weatherby over rated cartridges are gonna be slim, cuz the weatherby cartridge line is not as popular. 300 wby is a great cartridge but most hunters won’t need or won’t notice its abilities over a 300 win mag.
460 is overrated…sure its powerful but kinda too powerful. Recoil is tremendous and doesnt seem to stop large game any better than other available options from what you read on the african hunting forums. Just overkill. Same with the 378 cases…30-378 or 338-378 included.
Have to disagree Austin the 300 weatherby sits at legend status for a very very good reason. It is far from overrated. And the 30-378 and the 6.5-300 are also certainly not overrated they are the fastest and most badass cartridges in there league!! Just because something is overbore, overpriced, and really doesn’t serve any logical purpose other than having the fastest and flattest and most expensive cartridges does certainly not make them overrated, I believe that overrated cartridges are ones that simply cannot do what people believe in there own minds can do, such as the 270win and 6.5 creedmore, nothing at all wrong either, other than the people who own them believe they are the be all end all of cartridges, hence the term overrated.
It is just the cheapo Charlie's that call it overrated more performance cost money load your own not so bad my 300 wby is a winchester model 70 factory rifle I love the 6.5x300 most accurate rifle cartridge I ever shot .barrer life is 1200 rounds plus if not shot hot
My 6.5-300 still runs fine, calling it a barrel burner to me is silly and im still on my first barrel after many rounds, to me i find it brainwashing when i hear that, barrel burner or overbore 😂
Flaws. Proprietary wby cartridges ranging in price from 5 to 9$ a pull to shoot if you don't handload from wby. Antiquated cartridges that headspace off a belt. Standard Wby cartridges need updated for efficiency as technology has advanced. That's coming from a wby fan boy btw..
Iv got a 257, and 300 wby, in vanguard actions . Even the 257 isnt much over the 25 06, i find them to be cult like following, like if your a ford guy or chev guy,
@@ReloadingWeatherby mean I am being a rat haha 🤣 and messing with you lol 😂 but yeah there all overrated 😂 but maybe the 240 and 257 😂 my two favorite
The 300 Weatherby is probably the best elk cartridge on the planet. I80 grain Accubonds at 3150+ fps does the job quickly and humanely with a well placed shot. Loaded down to 3100 fps using 150 grain Accubonds and Partitions is an excellent whitetail, mule deer and pronghorn cartridge too. I wouldn't trade my 1960s Made in Germany Mark V for a new one. Just a Great Rifle !!!!!
Thanks for sharing
Laughs in 35 whelen.
Agreed, really hard to beat for 95% of shots we will encounter.
I have been using the .300 Weatherby for 35 years now and I would never give it up.
The 300 WBY has actually been chambered in quite a few domestic rifles in decades past - prior to all the newer non belted magnum type cartridges hitting the scene. You could say the 300 WBY's heyday was well before the turn of the century. Many, and I do mean many, hunters have been obsessed with the performance of the 300 WBY. But any way you slice it, the 300 WBY is an awesome cartridge, I don't care who you are. It was the fastest 30 caliber magnum ( in a factory cartridge ) for a very long time. It's still not far from the top. And yet it's not ridiculously over bore like the other two you mention. I think the reason it's not as popular as the 300 WIN is because of the length of the cartridge being too long to work through many rifle actions. Weatherby ammo is indeed expensive, but Remington and Hornady, among others, have made more affordable ammo for it. Personally, I would have picked the 257 WBY over the 300 WBY for being over rated, along side the 30-378 and 6.5-300.
But this was still entertaining. And to think this was a result of the 7PRC guys getting offended.
My favorite cartridge is my 6.5x300 bee. I don't care how much powder it needs of US869 it's gonna go freakin fast. I am working up a load now wit US869 and 153.5 berger hybrids and i am just over 3250 with zero pressure. I have my next ladder going forward when the weather cools off a bit more. 3350 shouldn't be hard to get but will see where i find pressure.
It's an amazing cartridge and worth every grain of powder and throat lost. Barrels are cheap. Long live the 6.5x300 bee.
Oh just purchased a 338-378 weatherby. Yehaw love this weatherby addiction 😂❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks for sharing
I still may buy a 300 Wby Mag Mark V someday. That being said, when putting together a semi-custom rifle from E.R. Shaw for my son as a college graduation present, although I briefly considered both the 300 Wby Mag and the 300 RUM, I went with the 300 Win Mag because of shootability and affordability/availability/variety of factory ammo.
Also for these ridiculously overbored cartridges like the .30-.378 and the 6.5-.300 - Weatherby really should offer 28” or even 30” barrels to wring the most out of what a hunting rifle in these cartridges can do. No one who buys a .30-.378 or 6.5-.300 is looking for a carbine, so why not give them the flattest-shooting hunting guns available?
I agree! Weatherby needs to make 30 inch barrels!
Embrace the hate! I’m all about 7mm’s and I will say the 7 PRC is a very good cartridge but it is over hyped. I know they said gunpowder issues but whatever. I new cartridge’s chances of catching on is based on getting Hornady’s blessing. Ex: 6.8 Western. Excellent cartridge no support. I disagree on one cartridge; the 300 Weatherby is far from over hyped!
There are also a TON of lies out there saying people are getting like 2600fps. I'm easily getting over 2800fps with a 20" barrel. Most people shooting Federal are getting 3000 if not more.
Sorry didn't clarify, with my 7prc not 300 weatherby
@johnkaraphillis754
Acquired 7mm "STW" mag, Winchester Md 70 as 50th birthday gift to myself then for Moose run Northern Quebec.
Have, 243, 257, eyes on 270, though teetering on fence with 6.5-300. Could say, in-between shirt size.
Life is short. Whatever floats your boat. "Tempus fugit memento mori".
Cheers.
For anyone who shoots Weatherby rifles, ammo costs should not be an issue, IF you reload. It costs little or no more to reload than similar mag Winchester and Remington calibers. Save and/or buy some brass, anneal the necks after a few cycles. There are other rifle brands that use Weatherby ammo. Remington has made them in their custom line of 700s such as the 7mm, and they also can sell their brass in those calibers. Few years ago I bought 100 Rem 7mm Weatherby cases for the same as their 7mm Rem mag cases. No matter what center fire rounds you shoot or see, save them to reuse or trade.
Have a 338-378 that's absolutely awesome. book data wise it's par with the 338 rum but the trigger and ergonomics of my rifle is what sold me on it.
Thanks for commenting
Taking mine out for the first time Saturday, can't wait.
I have a Sako 75 finnlight in 300wby 😅
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In the past: it was a Rolex vs a $300 watch… cartridges- they both do similar things but one is a premium version … in todays world of off the shelf accurate cartridges/rifles… it may get displaced. Weatherby Mark V’s were in kids dreams like a sports car. Writers wrote about them in periodicals and they were a must see at the gun shop …… I remember the complete Weatherby cartridge displays when I was a young dude… seeing the 30-378 for the first time - wow! We currently live in a 6.5 CM world. How things change.
On the 7 prc I personally don’t like them same with 7mm rem mag as much. We see reflection a lot in those. Me personally cartridges that are overrated are the new ones that everybody and their brother is talking about. Will these said rounds be around for decades to come maybe. Will they be the best new thing maybe. Do they do the job yes but in my experience I tend to stick with the cartridges that are common and will always be available. A round that doesn’t get a lot of attention is the 257 Roberts and 257 weatherby mag. Both excellent rounds.
That’s crazy you said that the .257 Roberts. I’m 41 years old I’ve never even heard of that gun before. Awhile back I was working with some guys and talking about hunting. One guy said I have a gun I’ll sell you. I asked what it was said he didn’t know next thing I know he wanted in the door with it. It was a Winchester model 70 pre 1964. 1959 with a serial number check I bought that gun for $450 dollars. Shoots great.
@@hunt1198 the 257 Roberts is a lesser know cartridge but it is a great round. I remember on a bear drive we kicked one up and I shot it 4 times with my 308 and the guy next in line took one shot from his 257 Roberts and dumped the bear in its tracks. I was like damn.
The Roberts AI can give a man a woody.
Australia
Come to the Darkside. Hate the 7mmprc
Just picked up a box of 300 weatherby spent brass in original box!!! Ya know the box with the tiger on it, South Gate Cali. Gonna resize em to 8mm mag. The box would be a nice collector piece for a weatherby nut!
This is the first time I’ve ever heard anyone characterize the .300 win mag as anemic.
On a different note, this video has inspired me. I have been thinking for a while that there should be a market for what is essentially a bull pup single shot rifle.
Imagine a rifle with a falling block action, the frame sits about the center of the barrel, and the action goes all the way to the rear shoulder or beyond (the barrel could actually sit on the shoulder.
I am imagining a rifle that weighs 8 lbs with a 36” barrel, and 4” suppressor in a 40” overall length. That’s 4.5” shorter than a Weatherby Mark V, with an extra 10” of barrel!
I imagine the guys who really like magnums would REALLY like this.
180 gr at 2960 FPS is anemic... especially when the 300 WBY is shooting those same bullets 3250 FPS
I really enjoy your videos. I wouldn't even know about Weatherby without you.
Thanks
You guys are doing a great job. I want to see some testing of the 257 wby
I have a Ruger #1 in .300WBY mag.
Nice
Is it accurate?
@brianklamer3328 well it drops elk like at 800 yards
Great point comparing it to the 300 WM. I just had a 190 grain ABLR handload go 3140 ft/s with no pressure signs and really good precision
Would love to see you work with the 7mm WBY Mag. You have a lot of the .30 cals as it is. Would love to see you build up the 7 WBY and make it perform better than a 7 PRC with the larger bullets, or see if it will not stabilize.
I once had a Model 70 Winchester in .300 Winchester Magnum that I handloaded to .300 Weatherby velocities on a constant basis.(It loved 🔥loads!)I never had any signs of over loading,ie...flat or blown primers,sticking bolt,.....ect.
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I would argue the barrel burner factor. Typically a gun that burns barrels is not the type that people shoot all weekend long. That being said, I don’t mind barrel burners because sighting in once a year and hunting might burn 20 rounds… so those type of rifles can last a long time if your not just pumping rounds through it all the time.
Why respond in kind to hand wringing 7mm PRC fan boys. There are lots of cartridges equal to or superior to the cartridges I use regularly - i just dont care enough to become upset about that fact.
300 Weatherby is awesome, love mine. I see the ammo prices coming down, but still $70 a box for the eld-x or westherby grey box
I absolutely love my Mark V in 270 weatherby...Ive also been thinking 6.5-300 but the 4-500 round barrel life isnt its strong point for sure. I sure do like the Mark V deluxe.😍🤔
Weatherby says 1200 rounds
Perhaps the best cartridge of all time for deer sized game?
The key to barrel life in a 6.5x300 WBY is to shoot only 2 shot groups and let it ( COOL ) !
I tend to prefer the other end of the spectrum from Weatherby and gravitate towards the cartridges of maximum efficiency. The 7x57 was a military round designed to be fired over and over from a soldier’s gun without overheating the barrel and burning it out (within reason of course) and giving decent velocities while burning the least amount of powder and a recoil that won’t cause a flinch to a fatigued shooter. The forethought that went into getting it just right is what I appreciate about a cartridge.
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Would love a nice weatherby but it is hard to justify the extra cost
I love my Weatherby rifles... but I understand what you're saying
Once you get one, you’ll wonder why you waited.
never tell the wife,,but you deserve a
'v'
sportsmans wharehouse in missoula montana has 2 mark V delux in .257 and .300 weatherby mag for @$1300
Wby Mark V Hunter is pretty reasonable - not much more than a model 70 and fairly easy to locate one. You'll be grinning.
I totally agree on the last two. You should get a 378 weatherby. Or the final boss a 460 weatherby.
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@@ReloadingWeatherby always a pleasure.
300 Weatherby magnum = only in a Weatherby rifle Imo!
i have 2 Weatherby rifle, and i love them.
Excited to see which 30-378 you get
From early on, Roy Weatherby marketed his products more toward the “elite”.
The proprietary nature and cost of Weatherby rifles and ammo along with their opulence and exclusivity were often somewhat prohibitive to the average blue collar sportsman. This was an issue along with the economic conditions of the 50’s sand 60’s.
It was due to this that many were either oblivious or just less familiar with what Weatherby was all about or the performance characteristics they offered.
Take for instance the 7MM Weatherby.
First emerging in the early 1940’s, its velocity, range and energy characteristics are more comparable to the 300 Winchester mag. Still, there is little or nothing mentioned about it in any of the major hunting publications of the time.
Remington didn’t introduce their version of the 7 mag until the 1960’s. Once they did, it took the market and was widely discussed by the likes of writer and hunter Warren Page as well as numerous others. Many wrote of excitement over the cartridge without any recognition that Weatherby’s more powerful version had already been around for over 20 years.
The lonely 7 MM Weatherby never took off with the consumer market like other Weatherby cartridges did, and certainly not like Remington’s version. In no way does this reflect the impressive performance of the Weatherby 7MM.
Some of the same phenomenon exists to a degree with the 300 RUM more recently. After the release of the RUM in 1999, many spoke of how powerful and impressive the cartridge was and how it was the fastest and impressively accurate at long range. They praised the cartridge as groundbreaking with seemingly no recognition or notice that it only actually has a 60-90 fps advantage over the Weatherby cartridge.
The big Weatherby was apparently the big smile on the face of Weatherby shooters for a long time already and was known to them before the end of WWII.
Is the 300 RUM a great cartridge? No question! But for an insignificant advantage in velocity and slightly more powder capacity, barrel life drops like a rock!
Is it worth it? Everyone has to decide such things for themselves. I have no desire to malign the 300 RUM, but if we engage in comparison as part of our discussion and research, it’s important to know the facts.
The 300 and 6.5x300 are 2 of my favorites. Had a 30-378 for one season, I liked my 300 more.
Another factor that influenced the market for hunters going back to WWII is the many great writers of the major hunting and shooting publications. The likes of Jack O’Connor, Bob Milek, Elmer Keith, Warren Page, Craig Bodington, Peter Hathaway Capstick and so on. All of these fellows contributed their vast knowledge In reviews of rifles, cartridges and hunting. Many of them are no longer with us to provide their vast wisdom and knowledge. Hunting and shooting was what they did for a living. When they gave their opinions on various rifles and cartridges, most of us paid attention. When they wrote about what they liked and what they didn’t, it mattered a lot!
It is sad that many of these great gentlemen are gone. Because of their absence and lack of guiding knowledge may be some of the reason we become involved with engaging in such a ridiculous discussion as to suggest that the.300 Weatherby is overrated.
Wouldn’t trade my mark v 300 Weatherby for anything. Looking forward to using it on my moose and goat hunt next month!
for a gun channel it sure is shocking how many Karen’s are in the comments 😂😂. He’s getting the velocities he’s getting and talking about it ..if this hurts your feelings you’re not a true rifleman . I love seeing the differences in cartridges and I appreciate a channel like this with a guy taking the time and money to do this for us all .
Thanks Paul. There are a lot of sensitive fanboys out there
Calibers are like vehicles. Some people love hot roads 6.5-300, some people love big trucks with towing power 300 wby. Personally I love fuel efficiency like 223, 7mm-08, and 300 wsm.
I heard the same about the 6.5-300 once you get over 500 rounds the accuracy starts going , I'm sure its not to dramatic under 400yrds
If you are losing accuracy at 500 rounds you didn't let the barrel cool between the first shot and shot number 500!
@@johnwilburn8319 LOL LOL LOL
Oh my, a channel named
“Reloading Weatherby” talks positive about weatherby cartidge?!
Hehe i accept this apology video.
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Just kidding i love your stuff, embrace the criticism, it means hou are making people think!
Cheers!
Gosh, I love my 6.5-300 Weatherby! But it’s totally overrated! It’s unbelievably inefficient, expensive, and crazy tough on the barrel. But it sure is fun and sure puts animals down in a hurry!
Once I burn out the barrel I’ll be getting a new one in 300 Weatherby instead though lol 😂
I plan to get a 6.5-300 someday
it is not that costly,,you do use it for tin cans,,WHY not have fun
Have big birthday soon, my eyes on 270 mag.
Very underrated Weatherby cartridge. Happy Birthday!
Have that in a weatherby accumark
You will like it. A lot.
i am really thinking 338 rpm with 185 gr Barnes or 175 hammer hunters. 270 win is just to easy to get sub moa and pushing velocity over 3200 isn't hard. Happy b day.
Those are all the reasons to want one. I have the 300 WBY and the other two I want. I would go with the 416 WBY, the 460WBY and the 224 WBY as not really needed for what they do.
WEATHERBY always had the top ballisticly performing cartridges. The only downside was the high price of the Weatherby ammo and the Mark V rifle. Only the wealthy hunters bought a Weatherby rifle and it was mostly in 300 Weatherby next would be the 257 Weatherby.
The cost, recoil and wear... make it overrated... plus it's just not necessary
You can say that for most cartridges
You know, I must object.
Honestly, the reputation of the 300 Weatherby over 80 years now is beyond impeccable.
It is among one of the finest long range hunting cartridges in the world! Truth!
Any conversation that suggests it is overrated is not a serious conversation. Such a suggestion completely ignores the records of history.
That’s regardless of what brand anyone likes or dislikes. Just because a few brand loyalists don’t like Weatherby doesn’t mean that we rewrite the facts.
I’ll be more than willing to debate this issue.
Lol your gonna love 2 of em for sure lol and the one you already do lol
Yep
I know the 30 378 is a beast straight up giant Lazer lol 6.5 300 is neat but idk
If you really want to "stir the pot", you should make a video on how the 7mm Weatherby is the best 7mm cartridge of all time.
The 6.5 300 definitely is crazy expensive for the price and barrel life. For wat u end up spending in the end result u can get more caliber testing done with other cal rifles.
The 300 Weatherby is the only reason that Weatherby is in business. Many rifles far superior to the Mark V are available. Ammo is widely available. Is it some kind of barn-burner? No, but it is almost the perfect fit and I think Roy knew this. Recoil and muzzle blast are a wee more than the 300 Win Mag, but tolerable with just a little more practice. Beyond this are the 30 Nosler, 300 RUM, and 30-378 Weatherby,, all of which are significantly more punishing with not a lot more ROI for 95% of us. To me, the most overrated Weatherby cartridge is the 338-378. With less than 100 FPS advantage over the 340 Weatherby on a good day, brutal recoil, and subpar accuracy to the 338 Lapua, I don’t see it. If you really want Thor’s Hammer that shoots as flat as a 270 Win the 378 Weatherby has no competition.
@markcox
I must vigorously disagree with a number of your statements. To suggest that the only reason Weatherby exists is due to their 300 is very short sighted. It tells me that you may have less familiarity with many cartridges in the Weatherby line.
If you’re not a big Weatherby proponent, that’s all fine and good, but based on performance in ballistics, Weatherby has numerous stand outs that have been cost prohibitive to some and misunderstood overall.
I’ve repeatedly posted this my argument about the 300 RUM.
With all components being equal, such as bullet weight, barrel length, optimum load & so forth, the 300 RUM has up to 90 fps advantage over the 300 Weatherby. The difference is not recognizable in the field. Still there are many that don’t know this.
Other Weatherby cartridges that have impressive performance include: 270, 7MM, 340, 257, and 460.
These cartridges have a reputation not only for performance ahead of their time, but outstanding accuracy as well.
If you were unaware of this, then your knowledge or experience with them may be less compared to some other cartridges. There are historical records of the success of these cartridges I have named and each of them have earned the impressive reputation from a ballistics standpoint. To really know them is to love them.
@@douglasborgaro6801 Weatherby would not survive in its current state without the 300 Weatherby. It is by far the most popular cartridge/ammo followed by the 257. The others trail significantly behind in sales. For the record, I own all of the Weatherby cartridges except the 224 and the 416.
@markcox
I don’t know if I can totally explain it, but I actually feel better after hearing you say this.
Based on how Weatherby started early on and the target audience of their marketing it seems that they limited themselves a bit out of the gate.
Nonetheless, based from the narrow viewpoint of ballistic performance by itself, I believe that there were numerous calibers developed by Weatherby that have a profound impact on the world of rifles and cartridges. I do understand and agree the impact that the 300 Weatherby has had on their marketability and the company as a whole.
@@douglasborgaro6801 They are all wonderful cartridges, some more wonderful than others. My personal favorite is the 7mm Weatherby even though it is definitely low on the popularity list. Semper Fi mate thank you for your service.
@markcox
You know, now that you mention the 7MM Weatherby, there is a very interesting history about this cartridge.
It emerged in the early 1940’s with ballistic performance that was literally generations ahead of its time. Because it was proprietary and a bit more spendy than other cartridges of the day, you didn’t see or hear anything about about it in the big hunting publications of that time.
It wasn’t until the 1960’ s that Remington introduced its 7 Mag, which was ballistically inferior to the Weatherby by a recognizable margin. With Remington’s introduction, it was as if many never knew such a thing existed and many praised it as groundbreaking.
Go figure. It never got the accolades it deserved and even today there are plenty of fellows that are oblivious to how truly great it is!
The wood on that mark v is freakin beautiful
It is!
I'm sorry, you can't overrate anything because of the original purchase amount and its availability, you can only overrate something on ability. Meaning, if you can do the same task with amunition X instead of ammunition Y, with the same results. If X can do it just as good (or God forbid even better) than Y could perhaps be overrated. In my humble opinion, Wby cartridges are not overrated at all, they are Magnum loads, and they do have the extra FPS (and recoil) to prove it. Bullett availability is constantly increasing, and there are several non Wby rifle makers that offer Wby chamberings. I get a lot of crap as well, because the younger techno crowd loves hyped up techno stuff, so they really get offended when you prefer old-school anything.
I lost some Weatherby brass in a move and I've never recovered...LOL.
Financially?
@@ReloadingWeatherby Yes, that's the joke.
@@tacticalmattfoley Not emotionally?
If the 300 Weatherby is overrated I'm 10ft tall, bullet proof and play water-polo on the back of a unicorn, in the whitewater rapids of the Colorado River. Google be damned. My 300 Weatherbys have served me well for 40 years on 4 continents. I have no plans to give them up. With that being said, at one time I switch to a 300 Win just because 300 Weatherby ammo was hard to find in 180 grn in my area. Did I notice a difference? No, not really and neither did the game. I don't think I've noticed a difference in any of my 300 (Win. WBY, RUM, WSM). Heck unless the shot is long for iron sights the little old 300 Savage gets it done. I will say the 300 WBY was the king of the magnum mountain for 50+ years. It did set the stage for everything that came after WW-II in the magnum and high-speed cartridge world. Love it or hate it, give the old girl her dues.
Cheers, Jeff
Haha! Best comment
Make a video of what are the top three BEST WEATHERBY AND …..WHY!!!!!!
I am interested 2 c if the 340 makes the list…😊
I did a video rating Weatherby cartridges from worst to best. Go check it out!
One Weatherby cartridge that has crazy down range energy is the 416 Wby with 350 gr. TTSXs. In comparing factory loads, this cartridge has more energy than the 378 Wby out to 500 yds! And this cartridge has just a bit less energy at 200 yds. compared to a 338-378 Wby at the muzzle! Almost 5,000 ft. lbs. at 200 yds!! Insane down range energy! Out to 500 yds anyway.
7prc Christensen mesa fft 175 eldx fed 215gm and 69.9 gr of ramshot grand and hornady brass. I’m getting 2990 avg. 22 inch barrel with only around 50 rounds through it and it shoots under 3/4 moa
Nice
According to African Proffesional hunter Dr Kevin Robertson , he thinks 460 weatherby is overkill , a client used it ( i cant remember words exactly ) and 1 barnes bullet moving out of 460 weatherby went through 3 dangerous buffalo ..... they didnt see the other buffalo behind the first
I saw a video interview with Kevin where he stated the bullet killing (3) buffalo was from a 416 Wby. Mag.
@@johnvillalovos5082thats probably the one i was thinking of , big game hunting channel ? interview with Dr Kevin
So I am making this comment prior to watching the video. I would say 240 Weatherby, 7 mm Weatherby, and 6.5 Weatherby RPM
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Regardless I love the 300 Weatherby!
So do I
@@ReloadingWeatherby I wish UA-cam had a way to send pictures, because you would appreciate the custom one my dad gave me.
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Your over rated list is my top 3 list lol. Love my 30-378 and there’s a used 6.5-300 terramark and a 300 deluxe that have been both calling my name every time I stop in there.
Do it
Theres only one actually popular or successful Weatherby cartridge and thats the 300weatherby. Its not overrated, its very good. For me the only Weatherby cartridges that hold my interest are the 300wea, 340wea, and the newer 338RPM. All others dont do much for me.
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I'm kind of excited for some 6.5 300 screen time
Hey bro I’m gonna come up to bat for u, PRC sucks in my opinion. Proof is in the data u showed. It’s not up to the hype, will it kill stuff, yep it will. There are better 7s out there I am sticking to the 7Rem mag for now.
Weatherby over rated cartridges are gonna be slim, cuz the weatherby cartridge line is not as popular. 300 wby is a great cartridge but most hunters won’t need or won’t notice its abilities over a 300 win mag.
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Easier to find a Weatherby in lefty, or used to be. I think Savage has decent availability now.
@@ReloadingWeatherby I pretty much always watch your stuff Austin it’s good content
Stay mad my 7mmprc shoots a 170 at over 3,000 and puts them in a penny sized group
460 is overrated…sure its powerful but kinda too powerful. Recoil is tremendous and doesnt seem to stop large game any better than other available options from what you read on the african hunting forums. Just overkill. Same with the 378 cases…30-378 or 338-378 included.
I agree they are all awesome cartridges
Have to disagree Austin the 300 weatherby sits at legend status for a very very good reason. It is far from overrated. And the 30-378 and the 6.5-300 are also certainly not overrated they are the fastest and most badass cartridges in there league!! Just because something is overbore, overpriced, and really doesn’t serve any logical purpose other than having the fastest and flattest and most expensive cartridges does certainly not make them overrated, I believe that overrated cartridges are ones that simply cannot do what people believe in there own minds can do, such as the 270win and 6.5 creedmore, nothing at all wrong either, other than the people who own them believe they are the be all end all of cartridges, hence the term overrated.
Well the name of the channel has Weatherby in it! Of course you like Weatherby hahaha.
Pencil thin barrels. Don't thread barrels. When they do a 30 call is 1/2-28. Why? Pencil barrels firing space shuttle energy...
I would think others like me already knew this before purchasing, interesting however irrelevant if you like WBY'S,Cheers
How can 6.5-300 and 30-378 be overrated when they are the best at what they do?
It is just the cheapo Charlie's that call it overrated more performance cost money load your own not so bad my 300 wby is a winchester model 70 factory rifle I love the 6.5x300 most accurate rifle cartridge I ever shot .barrer life is 1200 rounds plus if not shot hot
You just tell the FPS it's not your fault if one out shoots the other.
My 6.5-300 still runs fine, calling it a barrel burner to me is silly and im still on my first barrel after many rounds, to me i find it brainwashing when i hear that, barrel burner or overbore 😂
Weatherby thinks you get at least 1200 rounds
@ReloadingWeatherby I can see it cuz I'm past 500 and I'm just fine
Flaws. Proprietary wby cartridges ranging in price from 5 to 9$ a pull to shoot if you don't handload from wby. Antiquated cartridges that headspace off a belt. Standard Wby cartridges need updated for efficiency as technology has advanced. That's coming from a wby fan boy btw..
Iv got a 257, and 300 wby, in vanguard actions . Even the 257 isnt much over the 25 06, i find them to be cult like following, like if your a ford guy or chev guy,
Top 3 most useless cartridge from weatherby
6,5-300wby
30-378wby
338-378wby
I've got 2 300weatherby in winchester model 70s
I have a 240 wby,6.5-300 wby,300 wby. And a 270 wby.I think I need a 340 LOL.
7PRC is so much more overrated than the 300 Weatherby it’s not even close.
My top 3 overrated cartridges are the 7prc, 6.5cm, and 223. I have and love the 6.5 and 223, but the fanboys are unbearable sometimes.
Yeah
How about the 340 wertherby mag
Not popular enough
7prc is trash!!!!
Weatherby Mark V Delicious.
Your safe is entirely too organized.
I think you need to figure all the components then ammo isn't so high and if you want to run weatherby down then get out of business of ownership
If anything they are under rated.
I was waaaaay off!
There all overrater 😅😅😅
I don't know what overrater means...
@@ReloadingWeatherby mean I am being a rat haha 🤣 and messing with you lol 😂 but yeah there all overrated 😂 but maybe the 240 and 257 😂 my two favorite
This is your opinion
Yep...
Best part of Weatherby is the logo. Worst part is everything else... Like the channel though.
Weatherby mark v is so good your stock broke the first group... lol they have lots of issues
And they replaced it!
Weatherby Ammo is the deal killer. Buy a Weatherby and NOBODY MAKES THEIR AMMO. Hence the price gouging through the wall!!!!!
WHAT is the cost of 35gr of powder
300 wby is the best wby cartridge
I agree