It’s impressive they were able to build a flat burr hand grinder. The shape looks unwieldy and it wobbles but it’s great there’s plenty of options these days. Just a few years ago the only hand grinder options were slow ceramic burr Hario/Porlex on the low-end and the huge Lido on the high-end. Now you can buy quality steel burr Timemore & 1zpresso grinders for around $100 or less.
Perfect review,thank you Matteo. Very clear & detailed explanation. However, Pietro handgrinder is not yet my near future target.. Anyway,I enjoy listening your educational video..
Thank you for the detailed and honest review as always! The manufacturer has since released a stand and funnel to counter the main issues mentioned here, although it’s a pity that they really cheapen the look of the grinder (especially the stand) as well as being an extra cost to an already costly product (!) Can’t help but feel like a simple clamp style base would work great in a kitchen environment…Having said that I’m still excited to one day get this as it seems to be amazing at its main job. Cheers!
Yes, they released the base and the funnel. I actually used them last week and I have to say that makes the grinding grinding and dosing way easier. Didn't have any frustrations 😂 Definitely more useful in the kitchen rather than for travelling.
A fair review. Some things about the grinder are just stupid--like the black interior, which you pointed out. It should be white or silver colored, so you can clearly see whatever ground coffee is inside it. The Pietro is beautiful and looks like it would be super efficient, but I gather from all the users who've commented that the conical grinders like the Commandanted and Zpresso work better.
Hey Matteo, I recently bought a vintage stove top device, made in Italy, and it probably works like a moka pot. It has a basket for the grounds, just like a bialetti, and a strainer with a rubber gasket. But instead of top section that you can pour the coffee from, it has a long tube. I think it can also function as a milk steamer. It only has 1 control. There's a lever right on top. It has 2 positions. In the horizontal position you can depress it with a spring action. It also has a vertical position. Do you know how this works? Do you have one? Just curious the proper way to use this device for both purposes.
Hi. No I don't have idea about the device but I'm definitely curious about that. If you want to share a pic on my Instagram or Facebook please do it. thanks for sharing it
Is it a grinder that has found a niche as a home manual grinder that CAN travel? Or is it a grinder that can’t decide if it’s a home or travel grinder and does neither very well? To me it’s the latter, as it’s too big and heavy for a truly portable grinder and lacks the stability and ease of use of say the Weber HGs. But I’m only one person and the market will decide. I use a J-MAX for home and travel and find it both portable (smaller and half the weight at ¾ of a kilo) and easy to grind with: 20g of light roasted coffee at Moka fine settings takes about 45 turns of the crank at about 60 RPM. And the quality of grinds is excellent. It also cost less than half at $270CAD. In the case of the Pietro, I’d rather it was bigger, had a solid base and a larger crank and never (or at least rarely) think of leaving the house with it. $600CAD is too much money for something that’s that much of a pain in the ass to use on the daily. No matter how good the coffee it makes is.
Yours is a solid opinion. I think the grinding technology of Pietro is very good. Quality wise is outstanding. On the other hand you have something a bit uncomfortable to use. I agree there are better friendly grinders, even better looking and cheaper and lighter. It really depends on what you want in your grinder.
At $450.00??? Hell no. I bought my Baratza Virtuoso for 1/3 of that. And it has lasted me more than 20 years! I was initially turned off to this Pietro by the interior and exterior colors. But I see that it is available in 6 or 7 exterior colors. Huge size. Huge weight. HUGE price. Goofy grind cup internal shape. No thanks. Good, well balanced review Matteo! Glad to see a new video from you pop up in my feed. Thanks Matteo!!!
It’s definitely not for everyone and as every v1 needs improvement, but it’s also pointless to compare it to an electric grinder. Some people want manual, and the fact that finally someone has made a widely available flat burr option is a great step forward for speciality coffee…
I understand about the price. But I have to say that grinding quality is outstanding. I believe this is the beginning of many companies trying the same approach of flat burrs. But I 100% understand your opinion.
I can say that both grinders are great. I find Pietro, especially with pro brewing burrs, giving a nice narrower PSD compare to Comandante. But doesn't mean it's always good. For many coffees I prefer the standard burrs because gives me more complexity. But anyway the good thing is that you can change them easily. I don't suggest Pietro if travel a lot. I found myself carrying it around and it weight too much.
A grinder with an integrated scale 😂. Just kidding. I think scale is a very important tool. About the grinder, it really depends how you brew the coffee and how many brewing method you use.
@@matteofromtheswamps , My Husband has a standard coffee maker, an aeropress that rarely gets used, 😆 I have a spinner Cold Brew maker, and am ordering a Moka Pot. A cuisinart bean grinder
@@ChyarasKiss in this case I suggest a grinder where you can adjust grind size. So you can achieve a consistent grind size for all the methods you use. Then depends on budget.
Yes I've tried the C60. It is also very heavy. 100% metal. Still conical as the other comandante. Of course you get a different grinding curve. I find both very good in terms of quality. Comandante still more handy even if now it's heavier
@@cliffcox7643 Well the Kinu has conical burr and Pietro has flat ones, so the particle shapes of the coffee it's going to be different. Hard to compare.
Non coffee related: I'm not a native English speaker either, I noticed you hardly ever use superlatives. Example: more sweet instead of sweeter, more fine instead of finer.
It’s the comparative form, superlative would be sweetest / most sweet for example. For one syllable words the comparative/superlative in one word (sweeter, sweetest) is indeed preferred. for two syllables, it depends on the word and context and one version will usually be more common. From 3 syllables upwards you will always use more and most.
To be honest I don't know who roasted. I got that coffee as a present from Cup Of Excellence. That coffee place 14th in the Mexican Cup of Excellence. So I'm sorry but I don't know who roasted it
Does anyone else like the way he say Comandante. 😊
It’s impressive they were able to build a flat burr hand grinder. The shape looks unwieldy and it wobbles but it’s great there’s plenty of options these days. Just a few years ago the only hand grinder options were slow ceramic burr Hario/Porlex on the low-end and the huge Lido on the high-end. Now you can buy quality steel burr Timemore & 1zpresso grinders for around $100 or less.
Exactly, that is a good point of view. During covid many companies came out the home brewing game increase and technology went forward.
I have the same grinder with the pro burrs and it’s been an amazing addition to my brew bar. I use mine for pour over every day
Perfect review,thank you Matteo. Very clear & detailed explanation. However, Pietro handgrinder is not yet my near future target.. Anyway,I enjoy listening your educational video..
Thank you for the detailed and honest review as always! The manufacturer has since released a stand and funnel to counter the main issues mentioned here, although it’s a pity that they really cheapen the look of the grinder (especially the stand) as well as being an extra cost to an already costly product (!) Can’t help but feel like a simple clamp style base would work great in a kitchen environment…Having said that I’m still excited to one day get this as it seems to be amazing at its main job. Cheers!
Yes, they released the base and the funnel. I actually used them last week and I have to say that makes the grinding grinding and dosing way easier. Didn't have any frustrations 😂
Definitely more useful in the kitchen rather than for travelling.
A fair review. Some things about the grinder are just stupid--like the black interior, which you pointed out. It should be white or silver colored, so you can clearly see whatever ground coffee is inside it. The Pietro is beautiful and looks like it would be super efficient, but I gather from all the users who've commented that the conical grinders like the Commandanted and Zpresso work better.
You mean paper above coffee or below?
pls do comandante grinder review
I'll probably will with the new one, because mine is an old model that they don't produce anymore. But I already tell that I love comandante. :)
Hey Matteo, I recently bought a vintage stove top device, made in Italy, and it probably works like a moka pot. It has a basket for the grounds, just like a bialetti, and a strainer with a rubber gasket. But instead of top section that you can pour the coffee from, it has a long tube. I think it can also function as a milk steamer. It only has 1 control. There's a lever right on top. It has 2 positions. In the horizontal position you can depress it with a spring action. It also has a vertical position. Do you know how this works? Do you have one? Just curious the proper way to use this device for both purposes.
Hi. No I don't have idea about the device but I'm definitely curious about that. If you want to share a pic on my Instagram or Facebook please do it. thanks for sharing it
Love mine!
Is it a grinder that has found a niche as a home manual grinder that CAN travel? Or is it a grinder that can’t decide if it’s a home or travel grinder and does neither very well? To me it’s the latter, as it’s too big and heavy for a truly portable grinder and lacks the stability and ease of use of say the Weber HGs. But I’m only one person and the market will decide.
I use a J-MAX for home and travel and find it both portable (smaller and half the weight at ¾ of a kilo) and easy to grind with: 20g of light roasted coffee at Moka fine settings takes about 45 turns of the crank at about 60 RPM. And the quality of grinds is excellent. It also cost less than half at $270CAD. In the case of the Pietro, I’d rather it was bigger, had a solid base and a larger crank and never (or at least rarely) think of leaving the house with it. $600CAD is too much money for something that’s that much of a pain in the ass to use on the daily. No matter how good the coffee it makes is.
Yours is a solid opinion. I think the grinding technology of Pietro is very good. Quality wise is outstanding. On the other hand you have something a bit uncomfortable to use. I agree there are better friendly grinders, even better looking and cheaper and lighter. It really depends on what you want in your grinder.
At $450.00??? Hell no. I bought my Baratza Virtuoso for 1/3 of that. And it has lasted me more than 20 years! I was initially turned off to this Pietro by the interior and exterior colors. But I see that it is available in 6 or 7 exterior colors. Huge size. Huge weight. HUGE price. Goofy grind cup internal shape. No thanks. Good, well balanced review Matteo! Glad to see a new video from you pop up in my feed. Thanks Matteo!!!
It’s definitely not for everyone and as every v1 needs improvement, but it’s also pointless to compare it to an electric grinder. Some people want manual, and the fact that finally someone has made a widely available flat burr option is a great step forward for speciality coffee…
I understand about the price. But I have to say that grinding quality is outstanding. I believe this is the beginning of many companies trying the same approach of flat burrs. But I 100% understand your opinion.
Yes they are planning in developing new improved products.
Im thinking about buying a pietro with probrewing burs to upgrade from my commandante c40, should I? I only do filter coffe, usually v60 or aeropress
I can say that both grinders are great. I find Pietro, especially with pro brewing burrs, giving a nice narrower PSD compare to Comandante. But doesn't mean it's always good. For many coffees I prefer the standard burrs because gives me more complexity. But anyway the good thing is that you can change them easily.
I don't suggest Pietro if travel a lot. I found myself carrying it around and it weight too much.
You didn't discuss retention. That is something i would have like to see.
The retention is nothing. Sorry I missed it in the video. But what you put, you get. So it’s positive
I got it today in the mail.. What setting should I use?
It depends on which brewing method you use
Sorry,, Aeropress @@matteofromtheswamps
What grinder do you recommend for a new user and not weighing coffee. Just basics.
A grinder with an integrated scale 😂. Just kidding. I think scale is a very important tool. About the grinder, it really depends how you brew the coffee and how many brewing method you use.
@@matteofromtheswamps , My Husband has a standard coffee maker, an aeropress that rarely gets used, 😆 I have a spinner Cold Brew maker, and am ordering a Moka Pot.
A cuisinart bean grinder
@@ChyarasKiss in this case I suggest a grinder where you can adjust grind size. So you can achieve a consistent grind size for all the methods you use. Then depends on budget.
Have you tried c60? How does it compare
Yes I've tried the C60. It is also very heavy. 100% metal. Still conical as the other comandante. Of course you get a different grinding curve. I find both very good in terms of quality. Comandante still more handy even if now it's heavier
Which Burr for AeroPress?
I like the B-modal. It gives a more distributed particle size and you can achieve more complexity in coffee. The grinding quality of Pietro is good
@@matteofromtheswamps better than the Kinu M47?
@@cliffcox7643 Well the Kinu has conical burr and Pietro has flat ones, so the particle shapes of the coffee it's going to be different. Hard to compare.
@matteofromtheswamps j know. I already have the Kinu and about to buy thr Pietro. I'd like to know which Pietro burr is best for Aeropress
@@cliffcox7643 I suggest you the b-modal
Non coffee related: I'm not a native English speaker either, I noticed you hardly ever use superlatives. Example: more sweet instead of sweeter, more fine instead of finer.
In English, either form is good.
It’s the comparative form, superlative would be sweetest / most sweet for example. For one syllable words the comparative/superlative in one word (sweeter, sweetest) is indeed preferred. for two syllables, it depends on the word and context and one version will usually be more common. From 3 syllables upwards you will always use more and most.
are you allowed to tell us who roasted that mexican typica natty or is that illegal?
To be honest I don't know who roasted. I got that coffee as a present from Cup Of Excellence. That coffee place 14th in the Mexican Cup of Excellence. So I'm sorry but I don't know who roasted it
£370.00! Good grief...