@@pynzlyngdohnonglait6698to bad they couldn’t bring them back especially Epps if they brought him they could’ve at least brought him back as well since that was partner I really miss cast of the original 3
Are we not gonna mention the fact that Lennox is one of if not one of the few people to survive multiple decepticons and Megatron and lived to tell the tale? And I got goosebumps when he said he can hear Megatrons voice in his nightmares. Also I liked the fact that he faced Megatron in his Galvetron form even though he almost got recognized.
Can we talk about how Megatron dropped a big ass sword next to Lennox and the man didn’t even flinch? He was literally like “ok is your tantrum over?” THE GIANT BALLS ON THAT MAN
Fun fact Tyrese Gibson was set to return as Epps along side Lennox and the General. But due to Fate of the Furious being filmed in the US and Transformers 5 being filmed in Europe he was unable to return so we only got Lennox and the General.
I'm sure that Tyrese would have rathered star in Transformers 5 than The Fate of the Furious, I think someone had said that he hated the way his character was done in F9, I wonder if the same could be said about The F8 of The Furious
Maybe he should be reused as a recurring character but I don't think there is a main Cannon like maybe G1 but that like the last commonly accepted Cannon part of that was Beast Wars what kind of just reboot every couple years it seems
Should the reboot universe introduce a fairly competent human asset, that would be the opportunity to introduce Marisa Fairborn into the live action, she'll be a great reboot equivalent for Lennox from the Bayverse
I always saw lennox as the underlying best character of the bayformers movies. He is the only soldier who has been involved in every major battle with the autobots and knows them for their true colors. It is only when they are in the midst of war and he is forced to fight against them due to the government and the world constantly changing around him. It isnt like he hates them, he still loves and admires them for their bravery and courage, he just doing his job. It is only by the end, where he decides to make a decision for himself and sides with the autobots, ignoring what was expected of him. On top of that, hes the first main human character we were introduced to in the franchise. Goated character
I feel he should've been the main protagonist of these films. Optimus and him would get along extremely well, and I think he would see more than just a co-leader but as family.
If they really would they would like, leave the military that's continuously putting the entire world in jeopardy by incarcerating the murderous evil super terrorist robots, while murdering the CLEARLY good robots that saved the planet multiple times.
I think the only reason Lennox was on the TRF was to make sure they only killed deceptions and not autobots. Possibly after finding out what happened to the other autobots that were killed by cemetery wind, he requested to be put on the TRF in order to make sure that none of his friends were killed again.
@@orlandojuarez9742telling secret and classified information from the government to the Autobots would be treason and he would been shot for it, this was probably the best course of action he could do to influence and lessen the hunt on Autobots.
@@orlandojuarez9742 the Autobots were outlawed after the events of Chicago, a lot of Autobot sympathizers were killed by the government including Sam. Lennox is only a soldier and went low until the events of Transformers 4 showed that there are still Autobots fighting for humanity.
Honestly, I thought his first scene should of been more emotional or something. When he says 'Don't do it Bee', it should of shown Bumblebees face recognizing the voice and slowly turns towards the source, and then we see Lennox.
Hell yea. Cause they have fought in the field before and have history together. Lennox even tho working on the wrong side knows that the Autobots are not the true enemy. 💯
Imagine a Lennox/NEST spinoff, set between RotF and DotM, touching on the part of the beginning of DotM where Optimus says the autobots are helping the military with human affairs. It'll never happen, I know, but it'd be so sick. I like how in Bumblebee, Optimus didn't have a huge role, maybe the main autobots working with Lennox would be Ironhide and Sideswipe, their standoff with those decepticon SUVs in DotM was really cool
If I ever write a fanfic where most of the Human Protagonists in stuff like Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Bayverse, and Knightverse are just Spike, Carly, and Chip from G1 reincarnating over and over I'll definitely write Lennox as one of Spike's incarnations.
Lexxox is the only Human that in the TRF military I respect the rest have turned on them. Cade was wrong when he said the rest of you lost faith in them Lexxox was the only solider in the TRF who actually fought and worked with them that wasn’t on the run
I wouldn’t mind seeing Josh Duhamel return in the new Reboot continuity as a new character. Spoilers for Rise of the Beast Josh Duhamel can easily return to the franchise as a Joe.
They need to bring him back.Best captain. Prime trust him ,thats all you need to know. I love that he had Ironhide as his car it match his personality .
Why did Lennox angrily tell Cade to drop the weapon when he first appeared? Was it to prevent tension? Lennox somehow was an antagonist to Cade due to orders.
@@malachaiprime8189 it’s a kinda sorta thing. The Bumblebee movie is technically not a reboot. Technically, it’s a prequel. But the director Travis Knight and fans know it’s a soft reboot. Hasbro wants to keep all the films within continuity so Travis and officials can’t technically say it is a reboot. It always been a sorta *wink wink nudge nudge* sorta thing. In layman’s terms though, bumblebee and rise of the beasts are soft reboots. The company just won’t admit it.
Kinda sorta thing like the above comment said. Fans and directors know its a soft reboot, but technically its a prequel, because Hasbro wants to keep the movies in the same continuity.
@@Stop_Resisting101its not a prequel definitely. Its a reboot which is completely different. Like Bumblebee had a voice box in the movie meanwhile in Tf movies he doesn’t and even his vehicle form is completely different. And even Unicron is different If they really wanna connect them the best way would be to say that they exist in different universe in a multiverse
The Decepticons really messed up Lennox. His daughter was just a baby when the Deceptions nearly killed him. He has issues with Megatron. Since he fought side by side with the Autobots in movies, he knows the Deceptions like the back of his hand.
*Lennox* 3:07 Roblox these things that will protect ourselves 3:17 hey! 3:50 that we cut him off stopping them use where access you have 4:36 oh my god look at that it's big alien ship 8:04 oh yeah 8:22 HANG ON! 8:32 *WHERE GONNA DOWN!* 9:02 course right to the craytor! 10:07 it's gonna work! 10:09 we gonna go! *Santos* 3:20 trf operation stay on my way those are my men 3:40 team leader USA what you got 7:34 think there's enough? *Moshshower* 1:11 all that we would all get to have prime back right now 3:32 I want you are born with your team to UK ASAP
Sir Burton's has mentioned the order of the Witwiccans and the picture of Sam Witwicky/Ladiesman217... He should know where is Sam Witwicky/Ladiesman217 ..He must be alive or dead...But Sam Witwicky's parents were still alive in Age of Extinction,The Last Knight and Rise of the Beasts...
1st: Who the hell were they shooting at? 2nd: Lennox should have been the main character instead of cade. Imagine him being rogue in the 4th movie and then when the aut9bots went into hiding after tje battle of tokyo, he goes undercover in TRF and continues to inform the autobots, while he tries to stall TRf to not hunt them
@@orlandojuarez9742NEST was probably dismissed and Lennox had a family so ig he did what he ordered to, the Autobots also probably followed the order not knowing it was all a plan to have them executed If anything its the bad writing not explaining anything clearly what happened after Tf3. We can just make theories
Lennox is the only human character I cared from this horrible movie. Because he has alot of history dealing with both Autobots and Decepticons since the original trilogy ended with Dark Of The Moon.
Lennox and Sam Witwicky are close friends.. Sam Witwicky didn't appear in TLK.. Sir Edmund Burton kept the picture of Sam Witwicky and the order of the Witwiccans,He should know what happened to Sam Witwicky. He might still be alive or dead..
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Lennox was the Captain Rex of Transformers trusted all Autobots just like Rex trusted the Jedi
I agree with you
I wholeheartedly agree
And like Rex, he started off as Captain
A perfect comparison, I always thought the movies should have followed Lennox
Epps is Cody as these two are friends with Rex and Lennox
"they're all bad"
Lennox: *memories kick in* you don't know shit about them, son...
Jazz's sacrifice from the first movie I think he's referring to
Not to mention that both Lennox & General Moreshower know that the Autobots are on our side.
Lennox will always side with Optimus and the Autobots. No matter what other people thinks about them
But he was still a close friend of Sam Witwicky and Carly Spencer ..
@@pynzlyngdohnonglait6698to bad they couldn’t bring them back especially Epps if they brought him they could’ve at least brought him back as well since that was partner I really miss cast of the original 3
That’s honestly the best possible description
Are we not gonna mention the fact that Lennox is one of if not one of the few people to survive multiple decepticons and Megatron and lived to tell the tale? And I got goosebumps when he said he can hear Megatrons voice in his nightmares. Also I liked the fact that he faced Megatron in his Galvetron form even though he almost got recognized.
Epps and Lenox are goats
Epps is a goat and also Lenox isn’t at all.
Can we talk about how Megatron dropped a big ass sword next to Lennox and the man didn’t even flinch? He was literally like “ok is your tantrum over?” THE GIANT BALLS ON THAT MAN
Tbf it’s not his first rodeo with the cons
Well, Lennox did shoot Blackout in the crotch
bigger than the balls of devastator
Bro rode a motorcycle to slide under Blackout's Big Balls, so he can put an explosive grenade launcher round up his a-
He has experience fighting those things he was there during first contact so that wouldn't even faze him
Fun fact Tyrese Gibson was set to return as Epps along side Lennox and the General. But due to Fate of the Furious being filmed in the US and Transformers 5 being filmed in Europe he was unable to return so we only got Lennox and the General.
He was actually there, just didn’t speak a lot. I swore he said “we’re going home Izzy”
I'm sure that Tyrese would have rathered star in Transformers 5 than The Fate of the Furious, I think someone had said that he hated the way his character was done in F9, I wonder if the same could be said about The F8 of The Furious
@@superboyx2837 that wasn't him it was Remi Adeleke
@@cckiller0053 his character, Robert Epps had already retired from the air force
@@pontiacGXPfanI see
I didn’t realize Lennox had 40 min of screen time through out the series
Because he the best hehd
It’s kinda embarrassing how he got more screen times than autobots and decepticons
*CAPTAIN* in the first movie , and *COLONEL* here
Major in the second and Lieutenant Colonel in the third.
Would he have made a Brigadier General for the cancelled sixth movie?
@@lukeseeseequasis5416that’s the start of a general grade officer, Generals wouldn’t go in the field
Honestly Lennox is such a badass he should be folded into the main Transformers canon
Maybe he should be reused as a recurring character but I don't think there is a main Cannon like maybe G1 but that like the last commonly accepted Cannon part of that was Beast Wars what kind of just reboot every couple years it seems
I would not be opposed to seeing Josh Duhamel return to the reboot continuity.
@@wesleykim6523
Especially with the GI Joe thing, yes.
Him and Mikaela Banes.
He a traitor.
i liked how they brought back Lennox and that general back, this movie seriously could’ve been the best transformers
If Knightverse were to make one character unchanged and stay among the reboot series, it should be Lennox.
This. We need Lennox back.
Tyrese Gibson should come back too as Epps
Should the reboot universe introduce a fairly competent human asset, that would be the opportunity to introduce Marisa Fairborn into the live action, she'll be a great reboot equivalent for Lennox from the Bayverse
I always saw lennox as the underlying best character of the bayformers movies. He is the only soldier who has been involved in every major battle with the autobots and knows them for their true colors. It is only when they are in the midst of war and he is forced to fight against them due to the government and the world constantly changing around him. It isnt like he hates them, he still loves and admires them for their bravery and courage, he just doing his job. It is only by the end, where he decides to make a decision for himself and sides with the autobots, ignoring what was expected of him. On top of that, hes the first main human character we were introduced to in the franchise. Goated character
I feel he should've been the main protagonist of these films. Optimus and him would get along extremely well, and I think he would see more than just a co-leader but as family.
Yeah. Sam was only in it because of his grandpa's glasses. I don't see why he was in DotM & they could've easily replaced him with the NEST.
@@iluvoranges Dude Sam killed Megatron and Starscream, Lennox can't do that.
@@dynamic6645 Yeah he could. Sam only killed those two because the plot said so.
It’s really cool to see that Lennox and his General are for the Autobots despite everything
Then why didn't they fight against trf?
@@orlandojuarez9742two guys and a few bots against a government backed force is not gonna end up good either way
If they really would they would like, leave the military that's continuously putting the entire world in jeopardy by incarcerating the murderous evil super terrorist robots, while murdering the CLEARLY good robots that saved the planet multiple times.
@@StateOfTheMind11225I wouldn't mind seeing Josh Duhamel return in the new reboot continuity as a member of the Gi Joe's
I think the only reason Lennox was on the TRF was to make sure they only killed deceptions and not autobots. Possibly after finding out what happened to the other autobots that were killed by cemetery wind, he requested to be put on the TRF in order to make sure that none of his friends were killed again.
Well he could have told the autobots about it.
@@orlandojuarez9742telling secret and classified information from the government to the Autobots would be treason and he would been shot for it, this was probably the best course of action he could do to influence and lessen the hunt on Autobots.
@@StateOfTheMind11225 he betrayed the autobots when he could stay on their side the same for moremshower
@@orlandojuarez9742 the Autobots were outlawed after the events of Chicago, a lot of Autobot sympathizers were killed by the government including Sam. Lennox is only a soldier and went low until the events of Transformers 4 showed that there are still Autobots fighting for humanity.
@@StateOfTheMind11225 how did we know Sam was killed?
Lennox has been fighting Decepticons for 10 years. His daughter was just a baby when he started fighting those oversized tin cans.
Imma miss Lennox... i already am 😭
You aren't the only one 🥺😭
The Autobots and Lennox are clearly old friends.
did u watch the movies? lmao
They are old friends
They are not old friends either.
They used to be
Honestly, I thought his first scene should of been more emotional or something. When he says 'Don't do it Bee', it should of shown Bumblebees face recognizing the voice and slowly turns towards the source, and then we see Lennox.
the reunion had so much potential but they just fart it out a window
Bold of you to assume Bay and Paramount would have any form of emotion shown in these movies
seeing jazz sacrifice infront of him aldready shows that the autobots will risk there lives to protect them
If we could only bring one man to the bee verse it should be lennox
And Epps
Hell yea. Cause they have fought in the field before and have history together. Lennox even tho working on the wrong side knows that the Autobots are not the true enemy. 💯
And sam
@@jaidensimon2287 no fuck him
This... is logical.
1:15 When Graves said General Shepard was occupied, this was what he was talking about.
Imagine a Lennox/NEST spinoff, set between RotF and DotM, touching on the part of the beginning of DotM where Optimus says the autobots are helping the military with human affairs. It'll never happen, I know, but it'd be so sick. I like how in Bumblebee, Optimus didn't have a huge role, maybe the main autobots working with Lennox would be Ironhide and Sideswipe, their standoff with those decepticon SUVs in DotM was really cool
Yo that would be lit 🔥 it sucks that Michael Bay won't be making anymore Transformers movie's
Lennox should appear in the Bumblebee universe as an alternate version
Lennox and Agent Simmons had that GAWT in them bro
Lennox is a MOH recipient, a full bird colonel and ends up being a undercover cop type with some Transformer hunting mercenaries. He’s had an arc.
Lennox should have been the main human protagonist from the start of this series
Imagine if Lennox or Ebbs were the main protagonists at the start of Age of Extinction following the death of Sam?
Lenox was such a Chadwick.
Chadwick Boseman died at 43 on 8/28/2020.
Lennox should have been the lead in Transformers 4 and 5. Mark Wahlberg just didn't work in these movies.
Lennox should've been the main human protagonist in the franchise.
Its not transformers without Lennox
If I ever write a fanfic where most of the Human Protagonists in stuff like Armada, Energon, Cybertron, Bayverse, and Knightverse are just Spike, Carly, and Chip from G1 reincarnating over and over I'll definitely write Lennox as one of Spike's incarnations.
Lennox is a good man.
Glenn Morshower essentially playing himself
General shepherd in call of duty Modern warfare 2 remake 2022 😂
@@joshuapagco1319 I was wondering why that voice was so familiar he looks like Frank from CSI Miami
We needed Epps back as well.
And so as Sam Witwicky and Joshua Joyce.
Tyrese was supposed to be in this movie but couldn’t due to shooting FF8.
@@believer4002 Epps chose not to join the TRF because he knew that loyalty was important
@@believer4002 man I remember back hearing he was gonna return but then saldy he didn’t
@@giodominguez365 wasnt it confirmed too he was returning before not being able to?
I just like the fact that Lennox doesn't even flinch while face to face with Megatron.
Dudes awesome in every way possible.
He took down Blackout and Starscream. I think he’s good.
Poor guy he saves the world at least 5 times and I’m willing to bet he didn’t get much of a pay raise
3:24 I oughta punch that guy for pushing Lennox like that-
this is Santos?
Lexxox is the only Human that in the TRF military I respect the rest have turned on them. Cade was wrong when he said the rest of you lost faith in them Lexxox was the only solider in the TRF who actually fought and worked with them that wasn’t on the run
Lennox is NEST not TRF
@@americanmariachi97 by that point lexxon was technically in the T.R.F since NEST was disbanded in DOTM
Lennox is a fool for not understanding what's going on Cade says you run into the Autobots and they fight back in self defense
I wouldn’t mind seeing Josh Duhamel return in the new Reboot continuity as a new character.
Spoilers for Rise of the Beast
Josh Duhamel can easily return to the franchise as a Joe.
Maybe a family member of his? Like a grandfather who was a Joe?
Yo if Josh appeared as a member of the Joe's that would be lit
Transformers 4 and 5 would have been a lot better if they made Lennox the main human protagonist in place of Sam rather than Mark Wahlberg.
Honestly, he was always fighting with the autobots
i have to agree with Mr Sunday Movies, when he showed up in the 5th one I breathed a sigh of relief, "Oh, finally, An adult"
Lennox should've been the main protagonist for Age of Extinction and the Last Knight.
Trf doesn't know what happened with the Autobots members of dark moon
They need to bring him back.Best captain. Prime trust him ,thats all you need to know. I love that he had Ironhide as his car it match his personality .
I miss Sam witwicky
Has it ever been confirmed if Sam died? I usually don’t keep up with stuff like that
No, however it's sadly most likely that Sam did die sometime after DOTM
Since sam is considered an international hero after dotm and rotf,i think he would be guarded very heavily
Michael bay confirmed it. he just made-up a story of him and his parents dead from an f5 tornado.
@@nurfyturf3202 source?
Just look what happen to same in transformers 4@@briantrejo3273
Why did Lennox angrily tell Cade to drop the weapon when he first appeared? Was it to prevent tension? Lennox somehow was an antagonist to Cade due to orders.
Just to drop tension so it doesn't get worse than it has to be at the time
lennox best character in transformers
Michael bay should’ve finished his transformers for the heck of it
Is it confirmed they are rebooting the transformers series?
Yeah
@@malachaiprime8189 yes !!
@@malachaiprime8189 it’s a kinda sorta thing. The Bumblebee movie is technically not a reboot. Technically, it’s a prequel. But the director Travis Knight and fans know it’s a soft reboot. Hasbro wants to keep all the films within continuity so Travis and officials can’t technically say it is a reboot. It always been a sorta *wink wink nudge nudge* sorta thing.
In layman’s terms though, bumblebee and rise of the beasts are soft reboots. The company just won’t admit it.
Kinda sorta thing like the above comment said. Fans and directors know its a soft reboot, but technically its a prequel, because Hasbro wants to keep the movies in the same continuity.
@@Stop_Resisting101its not a prequel definitely. Its a reboot which is completely different. Like Bumblebee had a voice box in the movie meanwhile in Tf movies he doesn’t and even his vehicle form is completely different. And even Unicron is different
If they really wanna connect them the best way would be to say that they exist in different universe in a multiverse
I love that look he gave at the name Mohawk.
The Decepticons really messed up Lennox. His daughter was just a baby when the Deceptions nearly killed him. He has issues with Megatron. Since he fought side by side with the Autobots in movies, he knows the Deceptions like the back of his hand.
I glad Prowl save William lennox and his soldiers from brainwashed.
That morshower guy, didnt he do shepperd in COD MW!?!??! both sound exactly the same and look kinda the same
why weren't the movies about him as the main human, he was already way more interesting then literally all of other humans.
Lennox, Eeps, and Mikaela are the only peoppe in these movies that i acrually care about
8:11 face of regret
lennox was badass
It was strange that when Megatron slammed hard his sword into the ground, Lennox didn't shake and fall 😆
Sgt Pierson 0:06
If Lennox was the main character, movie would be a lot better.
How many relics are there in this universe and every movie has the same story, finding them relics first that’ll change the tide of the war like…
Josh Duhamel just fucking eats the scenery whenever he shows up.
Do you think Lennox found out that Sam died? I know I read something about Sam's character and it said he died off screen
*Lennox*
3:07 Roblox these things that will protect ourselves
3:17 hey!
3:50 that we cut him off stopping them use where access you have
4:36 oh my god look at that it's big alien ship
8:04 oh yeah
8:22 HANG ON!
8:32 *WHERE GONNA DOWN!*
9:02 course right to the craytor!
10:07 it's gonna work!
10:09 we gonna go!
*Santos*
3:20 trf operation stay on my way those are my men
3:40 team leader USA what you got
7:34 think there's enough?
*Moshshower*
1:11 all that we would all get to have prime back right now
3:32 I want you are born with your team to UK ASAP
My version on my art Sam is back in the last knight and meet lennox and cade and the autobots
Sir Burton's has mentioned the order of the Witwiccans and the picture of Sam Witwicky/Ladiesman217...
He should know where is Sam Witwicky/Ladiesman217 ..He must be alive or dead...But Sam Witwicky's parents were still alive in Age of Extinction,The Last Knight and Rise of the Beasts...
1st: Who the hell were they shooting at?
2nd: Lennox should have been the main character instead of cade. Imagine him being rogue in the 4th movie and then when the aut9bots went into hiding after tje battle of tokyo, he goes undercover in TRF and continues to inform the autobots, while he tries to stall TRf to not hunt them
What happened to his friend the black guy 😭😭
Epps retired
@@djnavarro3212 that would make sense that he would retire. But Lennox still serves which did not surprise me.
Tyrese Gibson was busy filming F8
@@yashk3904 He didn’t join in TF5.
Lennox spy in trf or what?
Probably... He just need to follow the order... But in the end they're free... No more hunting
Why spying on trf? When he could have work with the autobots!
@@orlandojuarez9742NEST was probably dismissed and Lennox had a family so ig he did what he ordered to, the Autobots also probably followed the order not knowing it was all a plan to have them executed
If anything its the bad writing not explaining anything clearly what happened after Tf3. We can just make theories
You know what's funny? Lennox is one of the few only consistent subjects across the Bayformers series.
Lennox shoulda been the only mc. He was already shared mc, dude is tough as shit
1:59 yes Megatron this human and his troops took on your Decepticons from the start and beat them!
Hey, This is the guy from the Callisto Protocol..
General Shepard is in transformers
lennox...your actions were very shameful. what would ironhide think of what your doing?
Yeah he could have stop cemetary wind, but no.
1:04 maintain? How can you work for them?
8:10 so what? They're the good guys.
@@orlandojuarez9742 wait he was in cemetery wind
@@hmdudeandersen3766 no I'm talking about the autobots.
What is General Shepard doing with the Transformers dawg 🙏
0:24 1:09 Lennox join Autobots or Decepticons
Tyrese Gibson should’ve returned as well
He supposed to return but unable due to schedule conflicts I believe
Lennox should've been the main character of the new trilogy.
I swear the ocean is the new outer space
Lennox is the only human character I cared from this horrible movie. Because he has alot of history dealing with both Autobots and Decepticons since the original trilogy ended with Dark Of The Moon.
you should do all santos scenes
That ain't Lennox! That's Pierson!
honestly i would've preferred lennox over cade,
Why do you guys miss Lennox I don't get it and Sam did not die he is still on earth I seen him in other movie
Stupidest comment on UA-cam.
When did we say Sam died?
@@SantinoS_ Sam apparently died sometime before The Last Knight
@@cabooseisthevehicledestroy thought it was sometime before Age of Extinction
I hated this film, but it was good to see Josh Duhamel reprise this role.
I feel like it's a better movie than the full version
Lennox and Sam Witwicky are close friends..
Sam Witwicky didn't appear in TLK..
Sir Edmund Burton kept the picture of Sam Witwicky and the order of the Witwiccans,He should know what happened to Sam Witwicky.
He might still be alive or dead..
1:13 Shepard from cod mw2😂 I just realized tho
more time than megatron aint no way
General Shepherd sighted
1:13 General Shepherd MW2(2022).
It's The Callisto Protocol Hours Now.
General shepherd.
Lt. Col. William Lennox
10:16 It is time indeed
To come home.
William Lennox Heroes Wiki Fandom
Lennox is optimus squad the nest squad why lennox join trf
They really underused the returning characters on TF5
3:18
I consider him a former ally of the Autobots now I don't trust him anymore I have a saying don't trust anyone