Because asked for it. Everyone loves when bullying goes wrong and that was the biggest example of bullying going wrong in rap history. Drake didn’t do anything to instigate the beef and hasn’t done anything to contribute it
@@BlueNGold09 No it wasn't lmao. It was just always easy to pick on the "little guy". No disrespect to Meek but in terms of stardom and overall status in the game Drake is head and shoulders above Meek and he knew it. Notice when he get's the real response/clap-back from a REAL lyricist (like Pusha, Common, Kendrick...) he didn't have NEARLY as much to say as he did for Meek lol. Know why? Because he knew his pen can't ultimately match with those guys. And even if he did think so, he knows the playing field is a lot more leveled and these guys do this lyricism shit in their sleep so those were fights he didn't really want parts of. But Meek on the other hand is more of a "club banger" type of rapper. He's not a "lyricist" per say like those other guys so it's a lot easier to come at a guy like that because lyrical warfare isn't really his forte. You know Meek won't "bar" you to death. But you know for dam sure Push, Kendrick or Common can.
Pusha ain’t never gonna be cool with Drake and Drake ain’t never gonna be cool with Pusha and I’m here for it all the way. No one is dying. It’s just rap. So let’s keep it rolling
I strongly believe there are some sneaky power plays being called outside of music that have and will continue to affect the lives of members of each other's camps.
Why is everyone acting like they ever stopped dissing each other? Drake disses Push like 4 times per album. Push just said “head shot to keep adidas pure” on Huntin Season. He had a whole verse about him on Maybach 6. What makes this any different?
drakes corny af for saying "there are rules to this battle rap thing" when pusha came after 40s MS. need i remind aubrey that he made a diss track to kid cudi making fun of his depression/suicidal tendencies? cant have it both ways.
IMO the difference between those two situations was that Drake and cudi went at eachother directly where pusha was trying to diss someone that wasn’t even in the beef nor took any part in it.
@@gio3075 I see what you saying but it's that old rap ghetto mentality. When I'm shooting of you're standing next to him you're trying hit. If I'm beefing with your best friend then I got problems with you as well.
Gio i get you, however in the context of this beef the thing that ramped up the seriousness of the beef was drake making mention of push's fiance. in infrared he focused solely on drake and in i think duppy freestyle drake brought up his girl. i even remember joe saying something at the time to the effect of "people in push's class will not let u talk about their women, the gloves are off."
I can tell you this beef is 3 yrs stale. Neutral and Drake fans side the perception like Joe said, is Pusha is reaching. Pusha won 3 yrs ago so its like dragging a dead corpse. Add to the fact Pusha is not even a recognized mainstream artist or had those hits or anthems, the victory dint seem to help him go that next level. He just has his corner of hardcore fans. It was a diss I dont even recall what he says
Drake done dissed the whole industry on his verses... Pusha T does it and verses get pulled. Drake obviously flexing his muscle but he don't have to... Fire back on wax like you always do because all it did was make the verse bigger 🤷🏻♂️
@TeeSkuuwad It’s hip hop. Pusha T just did Pop Smoke family and label a favor. This album is trending huge because of Pusha T. Plus Pusha T and Pop Smoke share management
Is Mal okay? His vibe is mad off and uncomfortable lately. I feel like he's so biased and irritated when tackling topics, he needs a vacay or some shit.
Jay Escobar Joe actually likes Drake, he’s just honest when it comes to his music. Drake just got his feelings hurt because Joe was critical of Views. Which Drake literally admitted later on More Life
Right, dude whole management team came out to squash the beef when Drake was in the corner. Then, Drake still releases disses and subliminals. I already knew they wouldn't call him out on that
The fact that's considered a W for drake, even though he didn't even write the record is corny af. Drake should stay in his place and stop testing real lyricists.
John Bay Drake wrote every diss record at Meek, stop it. And why not test real lyricists when you literally out rapped him lyrically. Push won off shock value not bars
Isaiah Mo Williams Another thing he didn’t win by shock he won because drake couldn’t make a good comeback. Drake still sneak dissing him tho. Which is why push is replying. Also, drake was denying his son and probably would of for years. The fact you tryna defend him is just messed up. Push brought the truth and bullied drake so bad he had to be a dad to keep people listening to his shit that are females lmao.
mike epps if you really believe Drake got ghost writers I can tell you clueless. Most of the nigga catalog is very personal shit. Why would you rap about someone else mother, grandma, etc. make no sense. And Duppy was better than TSOA on a lyrical level
Mal try to make any case against drake look corny. “People don’t care about that” says the same guy that says people are too sensitive or that people shouldn’t care what other people think 😂😂
That’s literally what he said though...? He said if you don’t want to respond just ignore it. Shutting a record down is showing that you care about it so what point were you trying to make?
For once, I agree with Joe. Pusha T is a different breed, whereby he's not going to be happy until someone begs for mercy by the end of this whole thing. And I'm guessing Pop Smoke would have been cool with having this conversation happen around his album, if he was still alive.
Pusha T is too much for Drake😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Mal is such a Drake groupie 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣he is defending drake to a degree one would think he is being paid to defend him.
Drake wack for that No rules in Hip Hop you can’t go to labels you not even on trying to proof read rappers bars cause your insecure.The track didn’t even drop and Drake camp leaked it to benefit them with rumors.The argument of saying this ain’t the place for battle bars goes out the window when pop went out his way to diss 69 despite it being his record. On site means on site. Side Note on Thug argument : when was the last time in this era of Hip Hop that an Artist and their features stayed on one continuous topic consistently like the song title suggest. You could have a topic on protest and then another guy starts rapping about Rolls Royces that has nothing to do with the subject of the song. So if that’s not an issue the other times why would it be now.
500k Subscribers With No Videos? Nah bro. It’ll be different if he was from new York but everybody wants the title of the “king” of New York. Pop smoke didn’t need 69 he was already blowing up and speaking facts. 💯
Red HawK13 Quick history reminder LL dissed Canibus on the same track( so push is not obligated nor any other rapper to share bars your supposed to come correct and account for all at all times ). On site means on site. There’s no set area of when someone can get it. Far as Drake he’s insecure even though fans give him a pass because it eats at him the positions he puts himself in. The writing controversy , where he even falls as a rapper or pop star convo , Damn even the street cred aspect. Despite the support he lets his emotions show off in these moves and this is the second time he messed with a record and money of streams with Push. It’s corny to go try and preview raps beforehand and if this is the new norm then half of rap wouldn’t exist cause rappers sneak diss every other rapper as we saw with Pop which is fair game cause it’s rap and he didn’t know he wasn’t going to be around when he made it. Drake gets no respect for this move. It works in his favor to get this leaked because it’s free promo for anticipation for his new project and adds to the allure and mystery that some have for him in admiration for the behind the scenes of OVO camp. Meanwhile the song leaks and Victor Victor label can’t capitalize on streams like they want financially cause everyone is Resharing.
Adrizzy I don’t mind the diss or song by Smoke but Thugger saying there’s no place for that on the record is a weak argument. On site is on site. Can’t cherry pick which artist gets to say what. Hip Hop is not supposed to be so friendly to the point there’s no competition and your walking on eggshells cause your not sure if you’ll get a feature or a music video with someone else down the line. Waters the game down and forces chemistry and reflects in the music.
500k Subscribers With No Videos? Bro I’m not even from New York I’m from Chicago and I’ve been listening to him since he dropped MPR. Plus hella people in the UK like him so ion know what you talking about. Just cuz you ain’t know him don’t mean he wasn’t known
@@giftedimagesllc His verse doesn't take away from Pop Smoke's entire album or moment. Push demanded it off because Drake dickriders are crying about it and forgetting that this is hip hop, not because of the content of the lyrics itself
@@anuelbennyyy8820 he did squash it when Drake's team asked for a truce. Then Drake kept sending shots. That's like if you getting your ass whipped and the guy says he quits, then when you put your guard down he sucker punches you
@@anuelbennyyy8820 J Prince made an official statement on video. Did you see it? Do you even know who J Prince is? I keep telling you to learn about the music you love so much but you refuse
"Old retired emcee". Yo do ppl actually even remember how dope Joe Budden was? The triangle offense. Desert Storm. Him Fab and Paul Cain? One of the dopest trios.
I like Drake but Drake fans are very sensitive when it comes to him. Drake dissed Pusha more than once and it's a problem when Pusha respond very litely. People using Pop as an excuse for Pusha to stop being himself smh. This is Hip-Hop, not R&B
Drake tried to do the same thing to Push. The difference is, people were actually worried about the consequences of giving Drake info on Pusha. Even tho they were his enemies - they gave him the heads up. If Drake had got some type of info he could use, he would have kept riding on Pusha like he did to Meek Mill.
I remember the line too where Drake subbed Pushed. It was on Omertá “Last year, niggas really feel like they rode on me/Last year niggas got hot cause they told on me”
MAL ON DRAKE PAY ROLL NOW 😂😂 NIGHA SAID” IDK WHY PUSHA KEEP DISSING HIM IT TAKES AWAYS FROM THE RECORD “ NIGHA WHAT!! AND YOU WAS AROUND HOV AND DIPSET TALKIN LIKE THAT???? 😂😂😂
Kgrayready At least Joe real enough to admit that when you have power to do certain shit most likely you gonna take it even in the process you stopping someone from getting money. I don’t agree with it but I understand it.
There’s always some “I hAtE wHeN thRY tuRn ThE mUsIc” guy in the comments. Fam, no one wants to go through the copyright mess and risk losing monetization and the channel just because 15 seconds of Music. They been doing this now for ages, get over it 😂😂
Joe was spot on with that TI class shit. Alot of people think like that especially online. You have friends that like certain friends shit at certain times which shows you directly who fuck with who more. That's why I love the like button it expose people and what they want and how they think.
bugsy mc I mean considered how stingy he is withe releasing dropping an album every 3 years he kinda deserves the place he at rn. Maybe in 5 years he will get his due but he is more interested in taking care of his son and running good rn
@@ChevyChase301 it's his content i care about,not frequency of putting them out,this whole you need to make an album every 5 minutes just makes the quality lower cause artists are more concerned with flooding the market rather than the content they give and it really shows in the music
Just started watching your podcasts and i wish we can all listen to the what you guys are referring to when you’re listening to something you guys play instead of it being silent. Btw, i love you guys all together!!! Dope podcast!!
I wanna understand what’s wrong w Pusha T dissing again when Drake Sneak Disses and been speaking about Push since the diss
Don’t forget that drake sneak dissed meek couple years after they battle
Nothing to a regular fan but drake stans make it some way.
Any stans Em ones coming to mind.
Jay Rock Jinx pusha way better
@Jay Rock Jinx That's just beef shit talk. Drake fans talking like it's impossible for duke to take an L is nasty...
@Jay Rock Jinx Fuck no keep this energy going
Everyone loved it when Drake was bombing on Meek. I don't see the problem.
Because asked for it. Everyone loves when bullying goes wrong and that was the biggest example of bullying going wrong in rap history. Drake didn’t do anything to instigate the beef and hasn’t done anything to contribute it
Luis drake stans 🤦🏿♂️
@@king201023 Exactly lmao but smh
@@BlueNGold09 No it wasn't lmao. It was just always easy to pick on the "little guy". No disrespect to Meek but in terms of stardom and overall status in the game Drake is head and shoulders above Meek and he knew it. Notice when he get's the real response/clap-back from a REAL lyricist (like Pusha, Common, Kendrick...) he didn't have NEARLY as much to say as he did for Meek lol. Know why? Because he knew his pen can't ultimately match with those guys. And even if he did think so, he knows the playing field is a lot more leveled and these guys do this lyricism shit in their sleep so those were fights he didn't really want parts of. But Meek on the other hand is more of a "club banger" type of rapper. He's not a "lyricist" per say like those other guys so it's a lot easier to come at a guy like that because lyrical warfare isn't really his forte. You know Meek won't "bar" you to death. But you know for dam sure Push, Kendrick or Common can.
But meek started the beef tho
Pusha ain’t never gonna be cool with Drake and Drake ain’t never gonna be cool with Pusha and I’m here for it all the way. No one is dying. It’s just rap. So let’s keep it rolling
40 might
@@RejectDontEdit OUTTA POCKET 🤣🤣
Ur comment sounds like u rappin it
I strongly believe there are some sneaky power plays being called outside of music that have and will continue to affect the lives of members of each other's camps.
Wolf Tears give me your phone! Lmao
Mal tries too hard to act cool and nonchalant . Then he get sensitive and blocks people on twitter 🤦🏾♂️
Facts. Mal has to be that 10th guy. If everyone says yes he gonna say no
He gone try and block you here. Lmao corny ass dude
*Don Demarco*
Actually blocking people on Twitter because you don't want their bullshit on your part of social media is the most cool thing you can do for yourself.
Yea he's fr lame asl
Why is everyone acting like they ever stopped dissing each other? Drake disses Push like 4 times per album. Push just said “head shot to keep adidas pure” on Huntin Season. He had a whole verse about him on Maybach 6. What makes this any different?
that he diss him in a pop smoke song and people saying its disrespectful to pop. and also cuz young thug adress the issue.
@@tonygotti3979 people just overreactionary AF nowadays. Shit like this used to happen regularly way back
@@tonygotti3979 It's not disrespectful tho, only drake fans thinks that. Ppl just sensitive.
Nah it is disrespectful cause it takes away from that man album and focusing on the beef instead
Who cares pusha T career is 💀
drakes corny af for saying "there are rules to this battle rap thing" when pusha came after 40s MS. need i remind aubrey that he made a diss track to kid cudi making fun of his depression/suicidal tendencies? cant have it both ways.
I agree, funny thing is I have a similar condition to 40 and that wouldn’t hurt my feelings. I know exactly how sick, sick, sick I am.
IMO the difference between those two situations was that Drake and cudi went at eachother directly where pusha was trying to diss someone that wasn’t even in the beef nor took any part in it.
@@gio3075 I see what you saying but it's that old rap ghetto mentality. When I'm shooting of you're standing next to him you're trying hit. If I'm beefing with your best friend then I got problems with you as well.
Gio i get you, however in the context of this beef the thing that ramped up the seriousness of the beef was drake making mention of push's fiance. in infrared he focused solely on drake and in i think duppy freestyle drake brought up his girl. i even remember joe saying something at the time to the effect of "people in push's class will not let u talk about their women, the gloves are off."
Drake can dish it but can't take it
Pusha Thanos "You talking bout you upset, lets see what happens when you get angry"
Answer: Nothing. Canadians don't get angry, they just apologize.
Push is in for a long wait. lol
Anthony Salerno not just Houdini... rip twintallup whyS many more lost like 6 on the come up since New Years Toronto mans is real
lol toronto is not that dangerous bro. niggas gonna beat a dead horse alway bringing up likkle death.
@Anthony Salerno I saw a UA-camr (Trap Geek) drop a video on Toronto. Niggas don't play over there.
We're in the endgame now
The most unbiased & well spoken JOE we’ve seen in a min. Good segment
He wants that drake pull up episode so bad.
@@jonppasd It aint happening lol
Tbh tho it’s jus a random podcast it’s ok for him to be somewhat bias, not like Joe Budden reporting the news or sum
Joe got washed in the blood
Joe was scared to agree with Mal about drake
Drake hurt and been subbing non stop since... As soon as Push responds Drake Stan's want to call him a corny bully 😂😂😂😂
Drake and his stans are the Karens of hip hop smh😂😂
@@lonerebeI 😂😂😂
K. N on god
Thugga gonna get u better watch what u say
I can tell you this beef is 3 yrs stale. Neutral and Drake fans side the perception like Joe said, is Pusha is reaching. Pusha won 3 yrs ago so its like dragging a dead corpse. Add to the fact Pusha is not even a recognized mainstream artist or had those hits or anthems, the victory dint seem to help him go that next level. He just has his corner of hardcore fans. It was a diss I dont even recall what he says
Drake done dissed the whole industry on his verses... Pusha T does it and verses get pulled. Drake obviously flexing his muscle but he don't have to... Fire back on wax like you always do because all it did was make the verse bigger 🤷🏻♂️
No disrespect but I think the main thing was pusha T dissing drake on popsmokes posthumous album. I just don’t think that Was the right place for it
@TeeSkuuwad It’s hip hop. Pusha T just did Pop Smoke family and label a favor. This album is trending huge because of Pusha T. Plus Pusha T and Pop Smoke share management
Gutter Guru wait so you think the album is trending because of pusha T?😂
TeeSkuuwad I don’t think he is saying that it is entirely, but it’s helping more than it’s hurting
@@tavongamuusha5824 delusional these people are
Is Mal okay? His vibe is mad off and uncomfortable lately. I feel like he's so biased and irritated when tackling topics, he needs a vacay or some shit.
His hormone estrogen pills
he need a midol and a tampon
He’s always been like that
wish granted
True or true?...Pusha T might as well release surgical summer.
He really should ! My 2018 turned out to be a disaster without that surgical summer coming out
Still nobody will care...only comes up with Drake in his mouth that’s the more pathetic thin
It would start to turn 2020 around... I’m here for it.
@@Hurricane9146 if no one would care whyd drake block it lmao
Mannnnn if he did...
Mal is team Drake no matter what. Rory is team Pusha no matter what. Joe’s the perfect median
Facts. Even w the joe and drizzy beef joe still doesn’t pick sides.
I thought Mal was actual the most critical of drake this whole video? Does Mal actual have connections to ovo?
Jay Escobar Joe actually likes Drake, he’s just honest when it comes to his music. Drake just got his feelings hurt because Joe was critical of Views. Which Drake literally admitted later on More Life
Rory is not team push at all
Mal's take is completely nauseating
Drake also dissed kanye on Travis Scott record, but who's counting besides me and Joe..🤣🤣🤣🤣
Drake can diss push 1000 times and it wouldn’t add up to the damage of him getting called a border patrol agent
Thank you Rory! The shit never ended Drake take shots then hide his hands like he unbothered
I’m so ashamed of mal 🤣🤣🤣 Dawg, you need to stop 💀
So it's never corny when Drake does it?
Right, dude whole management team came out to squash the beef when Drake was in the corner. Then, Drake still releases disses and subliminals. I already knew they wouldn't call him out on that
Yea we need someone in this group to turn down the bias. It's become predictable, Kanye vid drops you already know the tone.
pusha aint a female for exposing family info?
@@anuelbennyyy8820 nah you the female for caring.. it's a rap battle bruh. Listen to yourself
adam bennyyy if he outbar’d like common or joe budden did they would’ve said drake won.
Ja Rule & 50 Cent have been beefing for 20 years. There's no expiration date for beef until the artist say its over.
Mall " I didn't think this was still a thing" pusha been going at wayne since Mr.Metoo and drake exodus. Beef dont die.
It does when u kill that shit ... ask a cow after they cut the beef outtt of it
George R orrr we can look at Jay & Nas. Snoop & Diddy. Beef been dropped.
I was like what hell he talking about
Nas and Jay z didn’t have beef beef tho lol jay z was just a hater back then and that’s facts
Goes back to birdman not paying neptunes for what happened to that boy.
Don't start war with the devil and be surprised when he keeps coming for his pound of flesh
Bar
LMAO push aint the devil. he a fish out the water
I dig that. The Merchant of Venice
Drake you are hiding a child, let that boy come home
V I Like the lil boy ain’t been home the whole time, Pusha messy lol
Lol
He's home now relax frfr I didn't know that nigga got a whole child Drake mean
Mal is right ... it’s super wack on Drake behalf to stop a record, just making the record more hot than what it is
Apparently to hangout with Drizzy you have to defend him like he is your child. Smh Hey Mal, Push won.
You wrong Mail, WE CARE!! We want all the smoke!
Slow down you might catch cancer
...he sounds clueless...like he took the Drake diss personally...
We love the competition
all the pop smoke?
We do
I’m a Drake fan but Mal corny, Drake is the kingggg of sneak dissin especially on other people’s tracks lol he the best at it cmon now
Drake learnt that from Hov. It's been their thing.
Daddy P.H.A.T. Saxxx hov learned from biggie. Biggie would diss people on their own records.
😂 that’s real cause idk half the ppl he be talking bout until they say something back
@@Unknown-ds8kg kendrick disses sean openly in his on song control
Pop Smoke approved the record.
Exactly
Where did you see pop approved of it so I cAn show my friends lmao
Joe put out 5 diss songs to drake that “nobody cared about” but they still hard so I don’t want to hear that.
He said “I notice you run we mention half the clipse” 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you so why he wasn’t coming at Joe for his actions people b fake af even w people they koo w and work w
The difference is a whole year after Joe didn’t drop #6
That’s because Drake is soft
Andrescia Hooten fakkktttzzzzz
Why does mal always have a problem with everything 😂 always whining about something
Mal got his feelings hurt
Rules must always be changed for Miss Drizzy. He need to stop actin tough. I enjoy every jab Push throws, he must keep it up.
Pusha won but drake winning at the bank
We need that Will vs Jada today too 👀
Take yo ass to twitter for that.
Hilarious!
You want 3 men to be caught up in all that entanglement
drake did a victory lap when he beat meek for three years. let’s stop
The fact that's considered a W for drake, even though he didn't even write the record is corny af. Drake should stay in his place and stop testing real lyricists.
John Bay Drake wrote every diss record at Meek, stop it. And why not test real lyricists when you literally out rapped him lyrically. Push won off shock value not bars
Isaiah Mo Williams wdym push bars were way better than drakes bars. And back to back was the most weakest bar diss ever so you sound stupid.
Isaiah Mo Williams Another thing he didn’t win by shock he won because drake couldn’t make a good comeback. Drake still sneak dissing him tho. Which is why push is replying. Also, drake was denying his son and probably would of for years. The fact you tryna defend him is just messed up. Push brought the truth and bullied drake so bad he had to be a dad to keep people listening to his shit that are females lmao.
mike epps if you really believe Drake got ghost writers I can tell you clueless. Most of the nigga catalog is very personal shit. Why would you rap about someone else mother, grandma, etc. make no sense. And Duppy was better than TSOA on a lyrical level
So when drake disses people it’s okay gotchu👌🏾
😂 right
Brandon Vendryes right about that..the world will never no
I hate when they turn the music down in these clips
@@NoBadEnegry copyright issues
By now, I would’ve thought all y’all knew it’s because of demonetization and copyright. Just go on Spotify... 🙄🙄
Shit be making me feel like my headphones bugging out
They have to do it to avoid copyright.
FlawlessRosee we know it’s just fkn stupid to keep the footage in when you know you’ll be turning it down. And who the fk paying to stream this bs??
This hip hop. Even big Sean and Kendrick still throw jabs
"If we're enemies; we're always enemies for life."
Mal try to make any case against drake look corny. “People don’t care about that” says the same guy that says people are too sensitive or that people shouldn’t care what other people think 😂😂
Lmaoooo
That’s literally what he said though...? He said if you don’t want to respond just ignore it. Shutting a record down is showing that you care about it so what point were you trying to make?
Sean N he said he shouldn’t diss drake because people don’t care about that.
For once, I agree with Joe. Pusha T is a different breed, whereby he's not going to be happy until someone begs for mercy by the end of this whole thing. And I'm guessing Pop Smoke would have been cool with having this conversation happen around his album, if he was still alive.
Pusha T is too much for Drake😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Mal is such a Drake groupie 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣he is defending drake to a degree one would think he is being paid to defend him.
We can’t possibly know because he’s not alive no more
There's a video of Pop Smoke dancing and rapping Pusha lyrics on the joint.
@@breh7181 true indeed. And that is why I said I'm guessing.
@@michigan48 interesting. Didn't know that. Thanks.
Mal didn’t have that same energy about Gibbs goin at Jeezy all these years laters.
Keep the same energy for Drake... Mal. Every single track Drake has been on since has shots at ye and push FOH
Drake wack for that No rules in Hip Hop you can’t go to labels you not even on trying to proof read rappers bars cause your insecure.The track didn’t even drop and Drake camp leaked it to benefit them with rumors.The argument of saying this ain’t the place for battle bars goes out the window when pop went out his way to diss 69 despite it being his record. On site means on site.
Side Note on Thug argument : when was the last time in this era of Hip Hop that an Artist and their features stayed on one continuous topic consistently like the song title suggest. You could have a topic on protest and then another guy starts rapping about Rolls Royces that has nothing to do with the subject of the song. So if that’s not an issue the other times why would it be now.
They heard it, just didn’t realize what it was about..
500k Subscribers With No Videos? Nah bro. It’ll be different if he was from new York but everybody wants the title of the “king” of New York. Pop smoke didn’t need 69 he was already blowing up and speaking facts. 💯
Red HawK13 Quick history reminder LL dissed Canibus on the same track( so push is not obligated nor any other rapper to share bars your supposed to come correct and account for all at all times ). On site means on site. There’s no set area of when someone can get it. Far as Drake he’s insecure even though fans give him a pass because it eats at him the positions he puts himself in. The writing controversy , where he even falls as a rapper or pop star convo , Damn even the street cred aspect. Despite the support he lets his emotions show off in these moves and this is the second time he messed with a record and money of streams with Push. It’s corny to go try and preview raps beforehand and if this is the new norm then half of rap wouldn’t exist cause rappers sneak diss every other rapper as we saw with Pop which is fair game cause it’s rap and he didn’t know he wasn’t going to be around when he made it. Drake gets no respect for this move. It works in his favor to get this leaked because it’s free promo for anticipation for his new project and adds to the allure and mystery that some have for him in admiration for the behind the scenes of OVO camp. Meanwhile the song leaks and Victor Victor label can’t capitalize on streams like they want financially cause everyone is Resharing.
Adrizzy I don’t mind the diss or song by Smoke but Thugger saying there’s no place for that on the record is a weak argument. On site is on site. Can’t cherry pick which artist gets to say what. Hip Hop is not supposed to be so friendly to the point there’s no competition and your walking on eggshells cause your not sure if you’ll get a feature or a music video with someone else down the line. Waters the game down and forces chemistry and reflects in the music.
500k Subscribers With No Videos? Bro I’m not even from New York I’m from Chicago and I’ve been listening to him since he dropped MPR. Plus hella people in the UK like him so ion know what you talking about. Just cuz you ain’t know him don’t mean he wasn’t known
Drake says subbing people shit is so one sided this industry tries to protect drake so hard
That’s beacuse his ghostwriters don’t get paid if he looses
Push dissed drake when pop was alive
Of course. But this is most likely Pop Smoke’s one and only moment......and that’s why Pusha demanded his manager to his verse off the album.
@@giftedimagesllc His verse doesn't take away from Pop Smoke's entire album or moment. Push demanded it off because Drake dickriders are crying about it and forgetting that this is hip hop, not because of the content of the lyrics itself
OVO Mal buggin on this segment
Headshot to keep adidas pure!!!!!! - Pusha T
Mal loves drake so bad lmao stop acting like drake ain’t been subbing him and Kanye for 2 years
Why is the fk would drake ever acknowledge someone like mal? Absolutely worseless of his time
@@Hurricane9146 you didn't even understand the comment. You all emotional over Drake and can't think straight 🤦🏾♂️😂
Saiko drake>pusha
Saiko 🤣
What are you talking about? Dude was going against drake the whole pod lol
Pusha been going at Young money then OVO decided to get themselves involved it's never going to stop it 50cent vs Murder Inc. PUSHA THANOS 💥💥💥💥💯💯💯
Pusha just exposed info he didn’t lyrical kill nothing...
I agree, people are offended by competition. Don't like it go to R&B not everyone is built the same.
Time for another Push masterpiece 🔥
Surgical summer. Snip! Snip!
Mal is the biggest hater I’ve ever seen and I’ve seen my different types of haters. It’s like he wakes up to hate everyday. I Pray for Mal
We know Mal OVO related, the Drake rule is in play.
WTF do Mal be talkin about? Dude just be sayin the same thing over and over, yet not saying anything
Or you can't hear for shit...
Joe is smarter than what people give him credit 4......
...and chubbier
Mal be capeing for drake by any means necessary
Drake's management called to squash the beef but Drake kept sending shots. Push has every right to respond.
hes corny for not squashing it and hes corny for revealing family info like a female
@@anuelbennyyy8820 he did squash it when Drake's team asked for a truce. Then Drake kept sending shots. That's like if you getting your ass whipped and the guy says he quits, then when you put your guard down he sucker punches you
@@Saiko-RuRu LOL that's a perfect analogy.
@@Saiko-RuRu who told u drakes team asked him for a truce? u know them
@@anuelbennyyy8820 J Prince made an official statement on video. Did you see it? Do you even know who J Prince is? I keep telling you to learn about the music you love so much but you refuse
Mal fails to understand that this back and forth has been going on for years. It all started with Clipse vs. Lil Wayne
He knows that, but doesn't bring it up because Drake would look even softer if people realized Pusha been bullying him and Wayne for a decade.
Wasn't even just wayne. They wasn't fuckin with birdman for a song he did with them, and didn't pay them for.
Joe your co hosts sound soft as hell right now
Co host* it's just Mal, Rory cool as hell on the otherside of the couch
@11:52 "Thats like not getting picked to play and u take the basketball cuz its ur ball" Lmmfaooo I'm fuckin weak af at this analogy 😂🤣😂🤣
Joe Budden like a Hip Hop prophet the way he explain stuff.
I love this podcast for it takes this culture and it's fans serious.
"Old retired emcee". Yo do ppl actually even remember how dope Joe Budden was? The triangle offense. Desert Storm. Him Fab and Paul Cain? One of the dopest trios.
I like Drake but Drake fans are very sensitive when it comes to him. Drake dissed Pusha more than once and it's a problem when Pusha respond very litely. People using Pop as an excuse for Pusha to stop being himself smh. This is Hip-Hop, not R&B
@@Yutaisop Shook Ones all of them
Pusha T to Drake, is like Remy to Nicki... They don’t want no smoke 💨
Remy didn't write the diss
Omey Iin she did tho
That shit ain't the same at all... you gassed off what public info is allotted to you, verse what's really going on.
remy and pusha are nothing to nicki and drake. there like annoying flys.
@@anuelbennyyy8820 Remy & Pusha smoked Nikki & Drake
I'm mad they took pusha t verse off he deserve to express hiself especially on a project of this magnitude
Nah shit was wack and pusha gonna clout chase till he die
@@rari27-h3k you ride drakes lap harder then drake rides for himself
LL/Canibus is another good example of the Drake/Push issue. Props to Push for not letting off the gas.
Drake somehow looks worse and worse with anything involving Pusha
That Black Mamba shirt Mal got on is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
HOV dissed Lil Wayne on TI's song with the same subtle kind of language as Pusha used on this song. This argument is ridiculous to me
Jay-Z dissed Nas in Memphis Bleek’s récord ‘What you think of that’. Joe is si agree with that and Rory was right. Hov coined sneak dissing
Lol Drake fans really scared for their messiah 😂🤣
@4:26 Yes Jay Z did. "Is that your chick" was a Memphis bleak record, where he sub dissed nas...
"Hov didnt jump on somebody else "
record to diss u." -joe budden
He dissed u on your own record on pump it up
Drake tried to do the same thing to Push. The difference is, people were actually worried about the consequences of giving Drake info on Pusha. Even tho they were his enemies - they gave him the heads up. If Drake had got some type of info he could use, he would have kept riding on Pusha like he did to Meek Mill.
The most unbiased HIGHLIGHTED comments defending Drake ever! Worse than the Beauty Community over here. I swear Drake got y'all on the payroll🍿🥤👀!
Back in the day rappers started beef on there own album on the same song with a rapper that was featuring with them
LL cool J vs Canibus
@@starfox_wr-45e93 LL took subliminal shots at EPMD on THEIR OWN record, that man was a fool with it lol!
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣Drake is a cry baby he can’t handle the smoke 💨 from Pusha T
That's freaking facts
Joe ripped Drake. I still listen to all those disses to this day.
Wake and Making A Murderer in rotation every time Drake put out a sneak diss. 🤷🏾♂️
I just listened to just because yesterday
drake my man but that making a murderer shit is lit
Me too lol
AFRAID is my jammm!
“That’s like not getting picked to play and you take the ball and leave the park” true 🤣
FACTS
💯💯💯
Joes breakdowns are hilarious
Everyone forget pop wanted revenge after 5+ years, he would have rocked with pusha diss.
Mal sounds like that one black person in the room that loves Trump
I prefer trump atm tbh but I disagree with Mal here
He's podcast furniture
You must be new to the pod, they call him MAGA Mal 🤣
@@cookmania3465 - maga (make another griselda album)
Munashe Msipa well we never asked you
Anyone else try to turn up their volume at 45 seconds ?
I get caught everytime 😂
Don Geedle me too and then just as annoyed after each time.
Guilty I did it
Joe blinks like hes catching up on old blinks.
Hahahahahahaha
He got that tweaker blink
My dude trying to activate his sharingan or something lmao
The ugly laugh I just let out 😂😂😂😂
Mals eyes are about 10ft apart from each other. Reminds me of Sid from Ice Age
Drake Dissed Him Omerta He also Dissed Him On 9 out of 10. So Pusha Dissed Him Back.
I remember the line too where Drake subbed Pushed. It was on Omertá “Last year, niggas really feel like they rode on me/Last year niggas got hot cause they told on me”
MAL ON DRAKE PAY ROLL NOW 😂😂 NIGHA SAID” IDK WHY PUSHA KEEP DISSING HIM IT TAKES AWAYS FROM THE RECORD “ NIGHA WHAT!! AND YOU WAS AROUND HOV AND DIPSET TALKIN LIKE THAT???? 😂😂😂
Funny he also was against stopping records but was around Jay. It’s a disconnect
erica2love1 exactly he losing his “real points” for me on bro
Kgrayready At least Joe real enough to admit that when you have power to do certain shit most likely you gonna take it even in the process you stopping someone from getting money. I don’t agree with it but I understand it.
PURE FACTS! SELLOUT
Mal knew Drake got smoked so he now he wanna dead the beef and act like it never happened. Drake don’t want it with Push, Nooooo
removing the track is the move when ur scared to rap back mal's right here
Drake wanted no smoke 🚭 💨with Joe tho!... I wonder why???
“ If we Rapping LETS RAP “
This podcast is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
"Corny" is Mal's lack of understanding of how powerful people move. He needs to read the 48 Laws of Power by Robert Greene.
I like that shot Joe gave that cornball Tran Ave 🤣🤣
Joe re: Pusha "I'm a killer like him"
LMAO
I like how joe Button breaks down shyt
There’s always some “I hAtE wHeN thRY tuRn ThE mUsIc” guy in the comments. Fam, no one wants to go through the copyright mess and risk losing monetization and the channel just because 15 seconds of Music. They been doing this now for ages, get over it 😂😂
Joe was spot on with that TI class shit. Alot of people think like that especially online. You have friends that like certain friends shit at certain times which shows you directly who fuck with who more. That's why I love the like button it expose people and what they want and how they think.
Push the most underrated MC of all time
You need to look up the definition of underrated
@@Hurricane9146 you tryna tell me push gets all the recognition he deserves?
bugsy mc I mean considered how stingy he is withe releasing dropping an album every 3 years he kinda deserves the place he at rn. Maybe in 5 years he will get his due but he is more interested in taking care of his son and running good rn
@@ChevyChase301 it's his content i care about,not frequency of putting them out,this whole you need to make an album every 5 minutes just makes the quality lower cause artists are more concerned with flooding the market rather than the content they give and it really shows in the music
I don't know about of all-time.
Joe making the most sense mal perspective is like most of ours outside looking in joe is inside...
Mal such a meat rider 😂
Just started watching your podcasts and i wish we can all listen to the what you guys are referring to when you’re listening to something you guys play instead of it being silent. Btw, i love you guys all together!!! Dope podcast!!
Adventures of Moon Man and Slim Shady 🔥🔥🔥
Matt Lesner it’s mid asf for 2 legends. It’s like a 2020 version of watch with ye and Uzi.
It’s a sjw verse from em cuz he on a song with an intelligent blk rapper, typical fake woke sht from em