“This is why I don’t support these guys, they dance around the issues. I’m going to keep supporting/watch their content because I hate the way they talk about issues”
@Rhys Jones Reading comprehension problems I see. I never said I hate the way they talk about issues, just they are dancing around the truth here. Joe Buddens claims he has to be independent so he can speak freely etc etc. yet when it comes to this topic, he & the whole crew is on eggshells afraid to say how they really feel. That rant at the end aint fooling nobody.
@@Footballer85749 actually, views are more valuable than subs. You can have a million subs but it means nothing w/o views. Like it or not, you're helping them. And commenting is icing on their cake.
The same guy that talked to Nick Cannon went after Ice Cube and his song No Vaseline. They both got into a discussion on the Oprah Winfrey show about it as well.
khund03 I don't see anything wrong about that, we calls ourselves Jews.. lol. It depends on the tone and manner in which it is said. It CAN be said in a derogatory manner (tone and inflection). Even words within our race. For example, if someone says sit your black butt down and they're a different color... yea underlying tones of racism probably.
Because once they get into a country they rot it from the inside out. So they need to forcibly stop people from talking about it cause it’s such an obvious problem. The reason we always learn about WW2 and mean mr mustache is because they use it as a weapon to shut down conversation about the things they do. If your group has been kicked out of over 100 countries then you are The problem. Not the people mad at you for your actions.
Black people got all da mouth in the world until they become celebs and have to discuss history or any thing with jew mentioned in it then they start thinking less bout their colour and history and more about their salaries lol
I would say that if you compare the Holocaust and Slavery there is quite a bit of similarity of systemic destruction. Comparing? Sure not really a thing, but can these two groups relate to the suffering of each other? Absolutely.
@@londonps6751 Very true. There is the country. That being said, America has a knack to giving people of other countries stuff before Americans. I would recommend looking up Beau of The Fifth Column. He has a few videos about this relating to the manuals that were written to destabilizing a country. It's a weird mind fuck America plays on the world to show military might.
I agree they are acting like they don't know. He went off the top of his head like they do. And right now they are talking BS. Do not understand but taking up for him.
When they kicked him off america's got talent homeboy pulled up 2 seasons later with the masked singer lmaoooo. Always respected nick's creativity and work ethic. Viacom probably did him a favor.
Tbh , most of the cast will be good fr...Clips hitman conceited & charron pretty much up & got battle rap to fall back on Fr...Justina music/modeling gone keep her afloat. Karlous dc & Chico Definitely Solid....Now b simone...She might be going out sad 😭
@TakeshiMibu1 Honestly I'm pretty sure the majority of those will be fine. Just sad that no one gives a fuck for regular folk down the road losing businesses/jobs through covid. Thats what I feel sorry for
I mean yea they have other jobs but that show exposed them to so many more opportunities and got them known by so many all races and ages watched wildi n out that show exposed them to a lot opportunities
Joe is bleeking and trying to figure out what to say he wants this show right now Joe and Mal are full of it. All life's matter get out of her. Yes they have power Nick spoke the truth. And they got paid. Joe you know stop acting stupid.
@@reginamorris6356 being racist to black people or being Anti-Semitic will make Spotify remove you form their platform. It has everything to do with capitalism and the profit incentive and not a conspiracy theory on a group of people controlling thr world based on their religious identity.
Please dont take offense i dont wanna offend anyone listening or potentially not listening if u will. Are u offended? Please dont be i promise im not trying to be offensive hey hands in the air if ur not offended pump pump pump it UP (no offense)
I’m not Jewish so I could be incorrect here and forgive me if I am but my understanding is the phrase “Jews have power” and phrases like that become problematic when viewed thru the context history because it plays into centuries-old stereotypes that Jews hold too much power and, like Parks said, are using that power for nefarious reasons. Look back at 1930s Germany and the kind of language Hitler was using to stoke resentment towards Jews and it’s really not too difficult to see why it becomes offensive. Edit- just a minute or two after posting this joe eventually got there. so good job joe 😂👍
So saying they rich amd have power is disrespect... Literally the dumbest shit i heard... They/yall call us monkeys dumb less then small brains etc... U see the huge difference i do...
I’ve worked for a Jewish based company which caters for Jews and trust me when I say there are rich Jews and very broke Jews. And for what you said about Jews in power using it for nefarious means name a people in power who haven’t...
Humans have been divided by borders, land, economics, flags etc..we have come to a time in history when information on everything is in the palm of your hands, literally and people are (in most cases) free to move globally, where I’m from plane tickets are cheaper than train tickets. Tribalism, racism and all those past isms and schisms nowadays just ain’t gona work in today’s world. My prediction is in 20 or so years people will look back at us and laugh that we even spoke about race except for a few renegade communities, take my word for it.
@Red PanDa1 my point is its a stereotype that is bad how... I mean i would rather hear i got power then compared to animals or less then... Even if its 1 outta 10 with power ill rather have that then be called and treated like animals...🤷
Lol him calling everyone bar black people animals? Thats racism dumbass, if someone said that about black people are animals they would be insta cancelled.
It's kind of ironic because I would almost guarantee the heads of Viacom are Jewish. I will never understand how stating that a group of people are rich and powerful is considered highly offensive. 🤦🏾♂️
It's his rambling on how black people are the original semites and so they can't be anti-Semitic. For context the theory that Israel belongs to black people is seen as an anti-Semitic theory
This Nick Cannon situation is important to be discussed ! It’s much bigger than only Nick. Black people ownership is the answer! With ownership the money will also turns back to the black community.
I haven't reached that part yet, but maybe he is talking about recorded history that isn't necessarily purely fact based. Like 'those who win wars are able to control the narrative about the losing side', etc.
What that means is maybe neither side knows so scepticism would be a healthy trait to have in either viewpoint. Anytime you start going back thousands of years shit gets a little fuzzy
@@teamTERF 🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️ You must've been sleeping through the last decade. You clearly didn't get the statement. Terry ain't black, just looks like us. And cult? Please do some more research, my sis. ✌️❤️
Joe's maturity elevation is real. Im stoked and proud. I'm stoked more people will be able to hear da word. all of you doing better day. love from over here @20:00
Thank you all for having these awkward conversations. We need the awkward conversations and people in they feelings but communicate respectfully where we share emparlthy but make productive changes.
He did but nick got into his feelings a bit much and exaggerated the issue into something it’s not. Do I agree that that’s his show absolutely. We currently live in a society where we all have to dance around stuff because everyone takes offence to everything. And once you say or do something wrong instead of allowing the other person to express their point of view and allowing people to grow and learn from mistakes we just want to shut people down destroy their lives. When we grow up as children and we go to school in school we don’t learn racism we play with everyone we respect everyone however when we grow up and enter society we quickly learn about racism and it changes our original stance on it, first we hate the one or two ppl that spew it then it grows into a group. Then we talk as if everybody does it when reality it’s a minority of people. But sadly in today’s day and age it’s the vocal minority that continues this issue instead of us all learning and moving forward as 1 people indivisible by colour, creed or language spoken. But they all were right in the fact he shouldn’t have lost his job nick addressed it the right way and those guys were also right by carefully choosing their words in this situation as 1 wrong word today is suicidal career wise.
Don't understand who "they" is. It doesn't fit my character or the people around me. We all have been together too long to even think all white people think alike. It should be left in the past.
@@helenstacey7925 they mean anyone that's not black and we cant put it in the past when random black people who minding their own business are getting killed and racially profiled and their murders walking around free and when a white man in Florida has over 200 felonies and they continued letting him off til he murdered 3 people things need to change until then the past cant just be the past
mal plays devils advocate by accident in every single podcast. its ridiculous how green and stupid he is. he acts "cool" because he knows if he didnt he'd expose himself for the dumbass he is
Kai Kawasumi you proved my point lol, she didn’t back down and was about to make her come back and her she got fired from her own show and you don’t really hear about her now, no one is looking for her and the same goes for charley sheen
Kai Kawasumi regardless though, I’m not about this cancel culture of “oh you said something offensive so therefor I’m gonna take your income” it’s stupid. It it were me I wouldn’t of fired nick for just saying what he feels but I get why people would get fired for it
Nick been reading them Secret Relationship between Blacks & Jews" books by the Nation of Islam. Someone needs to give me a cliff notes version of that to see what all the fuss is about
exact same shit hitler was sayin just replace aryian race with true isrealite and instead of blonde and blue eyes their africans but these people dont wanna hear that
@@reapwhtsow facts Rj! no one has any prof of anything and go of the ramblings of a man who only came to be within the last 2 hundred years suddenly claming thousand year old facts are false ? to put his on people before everyone else claming those who disagree are evil cunning lie and are out to destroy the world ? THE EXACT SAME SHIT BROTHER JUST WITH DIFFERENT WORDS WAKE UP!!!!
JOE is very educated, but he has to play the game just like most of us (Black Folks).... We play the game everyday on our 9 to 5, so don't blame Joe for engaging from a distance to provoke thinking and dialogue, as well as keeping the job that feeds his family.
“I understand the teachings and the history and all that” ...what teachings and what history bro? Everything Nick said was wrong. He didn’t even understand the “teachings and the history”.
Nick did a very excellent job without labeling and simply explaining without being offensive, this was a direct and poor excuse to fire him! Why because he wasn't quite and kept like the token they thought he was, just like when the football player took a knee it's a form of power and control when your not fully in control.
Mo I don’t care about one being wrong if neither will be corrected. Which they won’t. There has been no change in anyway any of these groups are classed. Until THEY are looked at as wrong there will never be an issue or solution.
@@gnefrvr716 there has been no change in America regarding the overall status of black Americans since the 30s, 40s, 50s? You're a moron. The world my father grew up on, 1940s Washington DC and the world I grew up in is not the same.
Tbh the statement ”jews have power”- damn joe said what i was about to say. But i can see why they may think its anti-semati- damn joe once again said what i was gonna say
Nick cannon was a boss that had Jewish people his show, so the company made the decision that the guy who runs the show isn't allowed to call his own guest evil because of the color of their skin or the religious beliefs they have. If Joe's boss called him evil because he was black he would want them gone.
"he probably thought he was educated on it"-Rory. Whos to say that he isn't,we know who writes the history. I don't think Nick ever said he was clearly wrong unless I missed something.
my only point was that Rory and others are quick to write off people I consider to be great,intelligent black men. In favor of bought and paid for ,white, hack historians. Those who control the funding control the outcome of the "science" and the "history" just remember that.
carbon.the. christ I’m sorry I’m sorry. But Rory, mal, Max kellerman (ESPN) wayno (Everyday Struggle), Charles Barkley people who constantly defend black people and many other people who defend the culture criticize this “Jewish” theory. They’re not being biased against black peoples cuz they Constantly defend black people. They’re not taking the “white mans side” It’s called “objectivity” in journalism and media. You can be critiqued if you’re black. Now do I or Rory or anyone agree wild and out should have been taken away? Ofc not but look at the climate of POLITICAL correctness we live in! It’s not just white guys who get canceled now, society is ultra sensitive rn to any “mistakes”. It’s unfortunate.
@@culturehub2628 Well of course,most people take the white mans theories as gospel. While writing off black peoples theories as conspiracy and ridiculous.Brainwashing at its finest. Its common sense really,how could a non ancient people be the real jews. Even the torah says Moses was Egyptian. But then again the Europeans claim the Egyptians were white. Yet you,Charles,Wayno,Max,Rory trust them with accuracy of the black man and womans history. But,They all have jobs to keep and can't be trusted no matter the stance they take publically. They take what ever side will keep them employed at the moment.
That's the problem with adding white characters to the line up. The Parkers had their white girl, Raven had Chelsea, penny proud had that white girl, etc can't be Black Black Black
Everything Nick Said was right. Nicks only mistake was that he forgot that he was an employee instead of The Boss. Now he has the Opportunity to be The Boss and quit begging these white folks for a job.
Rosie got cancelled for making a joke against someone she didn’t know was black. It’s not always black and white. I know that’s where everyone tries to take everything but sometimes it’s not...with that said nick being cancelled was dumb.
How was it dumb for Nick to be "cancelled" when its people from Nick's side of the political spectrum that set that precedent. The way I see it, they are being consistent by firing Nick.
@@TheDarkGBJ completely agree. i dont agree with cancel culture but i feel like nick had to experience some form of cancellation cause white people have been cancelled for much less
They have to be a part of the dialogue in order to have an opinion. Prof Griff and Nick had a conversation about history. A history that is CLEAR. What wasn't he educated on? Let's be fully transparent...Jewish is a religion in other words a belief system not a race which is what society has pushed us to accept. A belief system where they(Jews) feel they are the chosen people of God. Based on written work not based on historical facts. Joe point on their power and Nick worth was real.
@@I-Have-The-Cuckoo Cannon spoke facts.. Which are proven in hundreds scholarly peer reviewed texts written by jewish scholars.. The original people of that land were black..simple and plain
Did anyone look into the information and the so called Rabbi and his actions? And why not have professor griff and the guy on there to exchange thoughts and ideas instead of just talking the white man's words. Stop talking about stuff I don't have the power to stand behind my people. Also nick creates a lot except for ownership 🤷🏾♂️
Go look up the Jewish almanac 1980 edition keep in mind they wrote it and in it they say they are not related to the HEBREWS the people that have so called white skin and call themselves Jewish are actually Turkish or Russian khazars and other European people that converted to Judaism thus the term JEW-ISH now when you add the ISH to something that means it's like what is being described. Take it one step further for everyone the letter J did not exist in the Hebrew language or alphabet until about 2 thousand years ago GET IT YET
Great convo gentlemen! We have had many discussions through zoom at my Temple with ways we (Jews) can have open communication with the community. This way misunderstandings and opinions can have an open dialogue. Enjoyed this segment💯
Se·mit·ic /səˈmidik/ Learn to pronounce adjective 1. relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family. 2. relating to the peoples who speak Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic.
I THINK YOU SHOULD STATE WHAT YOUR PERSONAL BELIEF IS ABOUT THE ORIGIN/NATURE OF PEOPLE BEFORE CHIMING IN ON THIS ISSUE. STAY ALL THE WAY OUT, OR ADD YOUR KNOWLEDGE WISDOM UNDERSTANDING TO THE CONVERSATION.
John Q. Are you taking a census poll for the government? What does our religion and race matter? If we are Buddhist, Hindu, Baptist, AME, Jewish , Muslim or just Spiritual and Black what difference would it make. We don't answer to any authority on earth. As long as we are attaining knowledge in the way we see fit to become a better human being ....
Joe and stooges avoiding having a real convo , so let me say this. If anti semetic is racist towards jews , what is a semite and how does that relate to white jews. Who are the semetic people and does speaking a semetic language make you any more semitic than a black person speaking English who clearly is not english in ethnicity?. I'll leave that here for people to ponder over.
A few months ago nick made a few diss tracks calling another artist a racist, Now he gets fired for hate/racist speech himself, Not only that, but he got fired on his day off, Dats tough!
No they’re not, carbon dating proves they’re not. The original semites are Middle Eastern. There are European Jews that have basically taken the religion and made it what it is today, but carbon dating proves that original Jews/real Jews are Middle Eastern. The whole notion of blacks being the real Jews is ridiculous, like saying Jesus was black, absolute fucking nonsense. He was most likely Middle Eastern. End of discussion
Shawn Robbins yes they are and Bantu still speak ancient Hebrew. There is over 80 million people who still live in Africa and never lost their Identity. DNA from the slave skelitons found in Eygpt are the same as so called A Americans. Columbus his mission was to find lost Tribes of Israel, when he returned to Queen Isabella of Spain he told her he had found them in the Americas, and the people look like Ethophians.
I’m just gonna say right here... a lot of stuff you guys are talking about is wrong, and a lot of the basis for black’s outrage against Jewish people is rooted in false hoods,
Im curious how we interpret history because that's what it boils down to... I think. Nick is educated and are he's views and opinions not based on that education? Call him out on that. Facts not feelings from passed atrocities, because the Jewish community and the black community have those in spades
What about the forced sterilization of ethiopians in israel? I already mentioned it in this thread (got taken down in just a few minutes lol). Btw Nick was still wrong to group people together the way he did.
“That whole state is lookin’ nasty” Smh tell that to the thousands of Louisvillians who’ve been marching for change. People are literally dying in the streets fighting for change. Smh. I know what he meant but they were JUST talking about not grouping people together.
This is not the oppression Olympics-- one group's oppression does not trump another's Nick spoke from ignorance in what seemed to be an attempt to uplift his people. The larger issue is he is a student of Minister Farrakhan who has made anti-Semitic statements throughout his history and Nick is unapologetic regarding respecting Minister Farrakhan. They tried this same thing with Tamika Mallory in trying to push her to denounce him and she refused. We don't always agree with everything a person says does not mean you have to denounce that person, you can denounce the statements without having to throw the person away.
Exactly why I dont subscribe. These guys dancing around the issues.
You don’t subscribe but you watch 😩
@@Zayze316 yea obviously smarty pants. but they don't deserve the subscriber follow(which is more valuable) if they cant keep it 100.
“This is why I don’t support these guys, they dance around the issues. I’m going to keep supporting/watch their content because I hate the way they talk about issues”
@Rhys Jones
Reading comprehension problems I see. I never said I hate the way they talk about issues, just they are dancing around the truth here. Joe Buddens claims he has to be independent so he can speak freely etc etc. yet when it comes to this topic, he & the whole crew is on eggshells afraid to say how they really feel. That rant at the end aint fooling nobody.
@@Footballer85749 actually, views are more valuable than subs. You can have a million subs but it means nothing w/o views. Like it or not, you're helping them. And commenting is icing on their cake.
I've never heard any criticism of Jews not be labeled anti-semitic.
The same guy that talked to Nick Cannon went after Ice Cube and his song No Vaseline. They both got into a discussion on the Oprah Winfrey show about it as well.
If u say anything about gays your homophobic. I'm seeing a pattern
Some people within the "Jewish Community" are even now offended with the term "Jew" and will come at you aggressively about it.
The same can be said about anyone particular group of individuals
khund03 I don't see anything wrong about that, we calls ourselves Jews.. lol. It depends on the tone and manner in which it is said. It CAN be said in a derogatory manner (tone and inflection). Even words within our race. For example, if someone says sit your black butt down and they're a different color... yea underlying tones of racism probably.
It’s always an eggshell situation when you mention Jewish people, which kind of highlights the point of classism. What do I know 🤷🏿♂️
Not much clearly Lol
Alexito Bless you
@@leonflames4972 No disrespect 😂😂 Bless you too
The same shit with black Americans, nobody can tell them anything
Because once they get into a country they rot it from the inside out. So they need to forcibly stop people from talking about it cause it’s such an obvious problem. The reason we always learn about WW2 and mean mr mustache is because they use it as a weapon to shut down conversation about the things they do. If your group has been kicked out of over 100 countries then you are The problem. Not the people mad at you for your actions.
I love how Joe is toting the line very carefully LOL he's not trying to get fired
Can’t believe Joe doesn’t own the Joe Budden podcast lol
Edit: joe does in fact own the intellectual property of the show
The Llama who owns it?
Jehovanny Garcia Whoever owns Spotify
The Llama aw yeah I forgot about that
Black people got all da mouth in the world until they become celebs and have to discuss history or any thing with jew mentioned in it then they start thinking less bout their colour and history and more about their salaries lol
jews and blacks did not go thru same oppression.......they can't compare the two
I would say that if you compare the Holocaust and Slavery there is quite a bit of similarity of systemic destruction. Comparing? Sure not really a thing, but can these two groups relate to the suffering of each other? Absolutely.
FatMan Jersey perfectly said. no comparison but there is relation. nothing can truly compare to 400+ years of literal hell.
They were given a country and are funded billions of dollars a year. Plus study a book and see how accurate their events are
Sehraad Ahmed i feel you.
@@londonps6751 Very true. There is the country. That being said, America has a knack to giving people of other countries stuff before Americans. I would recommend looking up Beau of The Fifth Column. He has a few videos about this relating to the manuals that were written to destabilizing a country. It's a weird mind fuck America plays on the world to show military might.
Joe and Mal are the wrong two brothers to be having this conversation. Just report and keep it pushing
I agree they are acting like they don't know. He went off the top of his head like they do. And right now they are talking BS. Do not understand but taking up for him.
That’s the problem everybody should be able to and should have conversations like this.
Period
Explain that. You can't just tell people how to talk about something on their own platform. I don't understand
@@lancebryant9206 i can say wtf I want. Just as you did
Funny how Joe so educated on everything else but clueless on this topic. While being in music for 20 years. lmao
@C Hayes Peeped that...and he's using 'their' language. Getting educated. Want education? Got 400 yrs worth and gaining.
You be surprised at how many who is behind the mic that is filled with lacc of knowledge and/or willful ignorance
Generally speaking
@@kevinjones238 Been going on much much longer then that wake tf up sheep.
@ Speaking on the 400 years that we're well aware of...dick for brains.
I'm 💯% sure your clueless
When they kicked him off america's got talent homeboy pulled up 2 seasons later with the masked singer lmaoooo. Always respected nick's creativity and work ethic. Viacom probably did him a favor.
He left that show, wasnt kicked off.
I agree, he got a bigger blessing coming!
Actually, I don't like hearing you guys talk about anything Academic.
Sam L. It’s a mix up
Like DJ akademic
💯💯💯💯💯
Nick cannon money is so long that he will be good no matter what. However, that wild n out cast better start working on their resumes lmao
Shit he ain’t got enough money if he apologizes, they also pay him too...
Nah, wild n out is his hard work. I watch that shit with my kids on whatever platform. Do it on FB how Jada does table talk.
Nah....Wilden out will resume. Viacom owns Wilden out and they will plug another nigga as the host.
Tbh , most of the cast will be good fr...Clips hitman conceited & charron pretty much up & got battle rap to fall back on Fr...Justina music/modeling gone keep her afloat. Karlous dc & Chico Definitely Solid....Now b simone...She might be going out sad 😭
It depends on how he spends it. If he is wise with it, he and his family are set for life.
He lost his job and he didn’t even kill a unarmed black man.
*Hes racist thats for sure*
Mikko like who
@@WopJr the director of guardians of the galaxy
People having their lives changed forever being hunted by the mob for doing their job correctly, like the cop that blew away Michael browns dumb ass
If a white, high profile celeb did something similar there would be riots all over the country foh
It's crazy white people are in rap now and we're still talking about "the standard" with black people in the industry Nick was a example!
@ black ball the black man but in their office harsher words were used
they can pretty much shut u down they run the planet
@@johntaylor7371 that sounds like a introvert answer
@@johntaylor7371 idk if they run the world but they have a lot of influence in Hollywood/entertainment could be trouble for Nick
Quail Banks no it doesn’t
I’m sad for nick but even sadder for the cast of Wild n out cast is even worse they were hard working and funny sad they are out of job now
Let's not feel too sorry for them. Alot of people in alot worse situations in life
@TakeshiMibu1 Honestly I'm pretty sure the majority of those will be fine. Just sad that no one gives a fuck for regular folk down the road losing businesses/jobs through covid. Thats what I feel sorry for
I mean yea they have other jobs but that show exposed them to so many more opportunities and got them known by so many all races and ages watched wildi n out that show exposed them to a lot opportunities
I know they will figure out something to keep it going somehow
Lmfao the way Joe Budden is talking proves everything, he’s not trying to offend Jews even by accident lol
What do you mean?
Joe is bleeking and trying to figure out what to say he wants this show right now Joe and Mal are full of it. All life's matter get out of her. Yes they have power Nick spoke the truth. And they got paid. Joe you know stop acting stupid.
@@reginamorris6356 being racist to black people or being Anti-Semitic will make Spotify remove you form their platform. It has everything to do with capitalism and the profit incentive and not a conspiracy theory on a group of people controlling thr world based on their religious identity.
Please dont take offense i dont wanna offend anyone listening or potentially not listening if u will. Are u offended? Please dont be i promise im not trying to be offensive hey hands in the air if ur not offended pump pump pump it UP (no offense)
Maybe because he’s actually a compassionate person.
When keeping it real goes wrong lol
when racism goes right.
Solluminati's scanner very true
When Juuz run everything
I’m not Jewish so I could be incorrect here and forgive me if I am but my understanding is the phrase “Jews have power” and phrases like that become problematic when viewed thru the context history because it plays into centuries-old stereotypes that Jews hold too much power and, like Parks said, are using that power for nefarious reasons. Look back at 1930s Germany and the kind of language Hitler was using to stoke resentment towards Jews and it’s really not too difficult to see why it becomes offensive.
Edit- just a minute or two after posting this joe eventually got there. so good job joe 😂👍
So saying they rich amd have power is disrespect... Literally the dumbest shit i heard... They/yall call us monkeys dumb less then small brains etc... U see the huge difference i do...
I’ve worked for a Jewish based company which caters for Jews and trust me when I say there are rich Jews and very broke Jews. And for what you said about Jews in power using it for nefarious means name a people in power who haven’t...
Humans have been divided by borders, land, economics, flags etc..we have come to a time in history when information on everything is in the palm of your hands, literally and people are (in most cases) free to move globally, where I’m from plane tickets are cheaper than train tickets. Tribalism, racism and all those past isms and schisms nowadays just ain’t gona work in today’s world. My prediction is in 20 or so years people will look back at us and laugh that we even spoke about race except for a few renegade communities, take my word for it.
@Red PanDa1 my point is its a stereotype that is bad how... I mean i would rather hear i got power then compared to animals or less then... Even if its 1 outta 10 with power ill rather have that then be called and treated like animals...🤷
These conversations are always disingenuous because the truth is always suppressed in the interests of being PC.
You nailed it 📝 i might even used what you wrote on other videos on UA-cam👌🏽 😅
Lol him calling everyone bar black people animals? Thats racism dumbass, if someone said that about black people are animals they would be insta cancelled.
It's kind of ironic because I would almost guarantee the heads of Viacom are Jewish. I will never understand how stating that a group of people are rich and powerful is considered highly offensive. 🤦🏾♂️
It's his rambling on how black people are the original semites and so they can't be anti-Semitic. For context the theory that Israel belongs to black people is seen as an anti-Semitic theory
Because, not all Jewish people are rich and powerful.
You're not a Jewish person so hush it 🤫
Viacom was founded by a Jewish man. The current CEO is not Jewish.
@@hollymorgan7420 still
Eggs shells wuz all over da floor in dis podcast.
This Nick Cannon situation is important to be discussed ! It’s much bigger than only Nick. Black people ownership is the answer! With ownership the money will also turns back to the black community.
*black racists also need to be addressed*
@@Randomhandlename black racist?
Please explain what that means
Sam L. *watch nick cannon video and you’ll know*
Sam L. *black racist is someone who thinks he’s better than any other race..makes fun of other races or looks down upon them*
@@Randomhandlename Well, I personally, honestly, don't know any black people like that... so I'll step back
Like Will said “mind ya bidness, just mind ya bidness” 🤷🏾♂️
😅😅😅
Faaaacts😭😭😭😭
Right lol everybody wanna be so woke on twitter
It's business, the mush mouth y'all speak with is a huge part of our failure to communicate.
Y'all buck dancing too. 😆
Heavy on the buck
Factoid
Blacks get violated no one cares..
@@Ton_Of_Hustle EVERYBODY but the whites get violated.. and the chinese ..
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“ History that isn’t historically accurate “ .......What history is historically accurate 🧐
Exactly
Its crazy they let that ride.
I haven't reached that part yet, but maybe he is talking about recorded history that isn't necessarily purely fact based. Like 'those who win wars are able to control the narrative about the losing side', etc.
What that means is maybe neither side knows so scepticism would be a healthy trait to have in either viewpoint. Anytime you start going back thousands of years shit gets a little fuzzy
There really isnt concrete "fact" with history, like in physics or math. Everybody is making arguments based on evidence they've found. Just saying.
The fact they replaced Nick with Terry should tell it all....
terry crews??
LOL yeah. Terry Crews doesn't need a cult to validate him. Nick does.
@@teamTERF 🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️
You must've been sleeping through the last decade. You clearly didn't get the statement. Terry ain't black, just looks like us. And cult? Please do some more research, my sis. ✌️❤️
@@chumajamesnxele106 careful, your ignorance is showing....
@@snavisTM Amen
Yall aint real lol
100 200 don’t what to hurt parks lack of knowledge 😅
Joe's maturity elevation is real. Im stoked and proud. I'm stoked more people will be able to hear da word. all of you doing better day. love from over here @20:00
Facts
Thank you all for having these awkward conversations. We need the awkward conversations and people in they feelings but communicate respectfully where we share emparlthy but make productive changes.
Somebody has definitely sent joe a clear message that he can be touched at any time!
Mal they have did that to black people...they just started to speak up for us just recently
You should get someone to speak for you because.. huh?
Is English not your first language? If so, could you please try again?
What? lol
You should have left this one alone, guys. Let's get back to talking about music. You are not the right ones for this.
I'm convinced that Nick Cannon didn't even understand what the hell he was saying.
Facts
@Stoney Baby sometimes it's best to keep the 🤫🤐
He did but nick got into his feelings a bit much and exaggerated the issue into something it’s not. Do I agree that that’s his show absolutely. We currently live in a society where we all have to dance around stuff because everyone takes offence to everything. And once you say or do something wrong instead of allowing the other person to express their point of view and allowing people to grow and learn from mistakes we just want to shut people down destroy their lives. When we grow up as children and we go to school in school we don’t learn racism we play with everyone we respect everyone however when we grow up and enter society we quickly learn about racism and it changes our original stance on it, first we hate the one or two ppl that spew it then it grows into a group. Then we talk as if everybody does it when reality it’s a minority of people. But sadly in today’s day and age it’s the vocal minority that continues this issue instead of us all learning and moving forward as 1 people indivisible by colour, creed or language spoken. But they all were right in the fact he shouldn’t have lost his job nick addressed it the right way and those guys were also right by carefully choosing their words in this situation as 1 wrong word today is suicidal career wise.
News flash they already do put black people in the same category
Don't understand who "they" is. It doesn't fit my character or the people around me. We all have been together too long to even think all white people think alike. It should be left in the past.
What planet does Mal live on...
@@sdwilso46 idk sometimes
@@helenstacey7925 they mean anyone that's not black and we cant put it in the past when random black people who minding their own business are getting killed and racially profiled and their murders walking around free and when a white man in Florida has over 200 felonies and they continued letting him off til he murdered 3 people things need to change until then the past cant just be the past
Exactly wtf is mal talking about
The average Jewish household income is $158,000-185,000. The average black household income is $30,000. It is clear we are not on the same level
Mal soft shoeing.
From the jump smh
mal plays devils advocate by accident in every single podcast. its ridiculous how green and stupid he is. he acts "cool" because he knows if he didnt he'd expose himself for the dumbass he is
Joe you ended with the correctness brother. I was not with you but you brought it back at the end. That was brilliant brother.
8:30 wtf is Rory talking about Charley sheen and rosanne both got fired from their shows for saying offensive things about a group of people lmao
Rosanne had a long history of it, and even later doubled down on her bs. There is a difference.
Kai Kawasumi you proved my point lol, she didn’t back down and was about to make her come back and her she got fired from her own show and you don’t really hear about her now, no one is looking for her and the same goes for charley sheen
Kai Kawasumi regardless though, I’m not about this cancel culture of “oh you said something offensive so therefor I’m gonna take your income” it’s stupid. It it were me I wouldn’t of fired nick for just saying what he feels but I get why people would get fired for it
Y they let parks deny history smh
It sparks
Nick been reading them Secret Relationship between Blacks & Jews" books by the Nation of Islam. Someone needs to give me a cliff notes version of that to see what all the fuss is about
exact same shit hitler was sayin just replace aryian race with true isrealite and instead of blonde and blue eyes their africans but these people dont wanna hear that
Nah he’s been reading the summaries. It was painfully obvious during his podcast or whatever that he barely had surface level knowledge of the topic.
False Blair!
@@reapwhtsow facts Rj! no one has any prof of anything and go of the ramblings of a man who only came to be within the last 2 hundred years suddenly claming thousand year old facts are false ? to put his on people before everyone else claming those who disagree are evil cunning lie and are out to destroy the world ? THE EXACT SAME SHIT BROTHER JUST WITH DIFFERENT WORDS WAKE UP!!!!
The Llama that’s where nick fucked up,Trying to impress professor griff
JOE is very educated, but he has to play the game just like most of us (Black Folks).... We play the game everyday on our 9 to 5, so don't blame Joe for engaging from a distance to provoke thinking and dialogue, as well as keeping the job that feeds his family.
And so are the Jews. Please do not give me that 9 to 5. They will have your on the side walk.
Y’all ain’t got balls ⚽️ no balls 🏀??? Really
This the type of conversation you have on a radio station, deep in the mountains, off the rails, in an RV 👽 This aint for youtube. We Need The Truth
We seen it, and we see it. This shit is no longer hidden. EVERYTHING WILL COME TO LIGHT.
“I understand the teachings and the history and all that” ...what teachings and what history bro? Everything Nick said was wrong. He didn’t even understand the “teachings and the history”.
Nick did a very excellent job without labeling and simply explaining without being offensive, this was a direct and poor excuse to fire him! Why because he wasn't quite and kept like the token they thought he was, just like when the football player took a knee it's a form of power and control when your not fully in control.
Mal: “you can’t put everyone under the same category” if only they didn’t do that to anyone of color....
By saying 'they' you just did the same thing...?
ShaneB UK so? I’m not on the side that feels that’s wrong. Since THEY do it to us every single day. Take the semantical offense elsewhere.
So 2 wrongs make a right now?
Mo I don’t care about one being wrong if neither will be corrected. Which they won’t. There has been no change in anyway any of these groups are classed. Until THEY are looked at as wrong there will never be an issue or solution.
@@gnefrvr716 there has been no change in America regarding the overall status of black Americans since the 30s, 40s, 50s? You're a moron. The world my father grew up on, 1940s Washington DC and the world I grew up in is not the same.
I love Joe Budden. When he talks, I'm all ears.
I mean.... seems like what happened with Nick is a prime example of the "abuse of power" stereotype.
It just cancel culture. He said something hateful and he faced the consequences.
Ewarton Charlton Yes. If he was any other race the same thing would happen. You’re only denying it because you believe in his ideology.
I can tell none of them on this podcast watch the full Nick Cannon interview. I can also tell none of them know the Tru history🤦🏾♂️
Tbh the statement ”jews have power”- damn joe said what i was about to say. But i can see why they may think its anti-semati- damn joe once again said what i was gonna say
One doesn't own emotion, and when one is owned by emotion, it's a reflection of one's belief that one own's them.
B.s they mad cuz he said Blacks the real Hebrews.
These people know what they doing .
So “Jewish” people mean white people level 2 😂😂😂
Joe blinks ALOT, that must be his nervous system..
He sweats a lot too.
The name of this movie..."3 Scary Guys". 💯🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nick cannon was a boss that had Jewish people his show, so the company made the decision that the guy who runs the show isn't allowed to call his own guest evil because of the color of their skin or the religious beliefs they have.
If Joe's boss called him evil because he was black he would want them gone.
Nick never earned the show and was always a employee
Owned*
@@bdove2007 employee yes. Also he was a boss. Just because you own doesn't mean you aren't responsible for running the show.
Only if the statement wasn't justified. They know he ain't lying, though.
"he probably thought he was educated on it"-Rory. Whos to say that he isn't,we know who writes the history. I don't think Nick ever said he was clearly wrong unless I missed something.
1000%
carbon.the. christ he did say he was wrong and the Bible isn’t “history” separation of church and state.
my only point was that Rory and others are quick to write off people I consider to be great,intelligent black men. In favor of bought and paid for ,white, hack historians. Those who control the funding control the outcome of the "science" and the "history" just remember that.
carbon.the. christ I’m sorry I’m sorry.
But Rory, mal, Max kellerman (ESPN) wayno (Everyday Struggle), Charles Barkley people who constantly defend black people and many other people who defend the culture criticize this “Jewish” theory.
They’re not being biased against black peoples cuz they Constantly defend black people. They’re not taking the “white mans side”
It’s called “objectivity” in journalism and media. You can be critiqued if you’re black. Now do I or Rory or anyone agree wild and out should have been taken away? Ofc not but look at the climate of POLITICAL correctness we live in! It’s not just white guys who get canceled now, society is ultra sensitive rn to any “mistakes”. It’s unfortunate.
@@culturehub2628 Well of course,most people take the white mans theories as gospel. While writing off black peoples theories as conspiracy and ridiculous.Brainwashing at its finest. Its common sense really,how could a non ancient people be the real jews. Even the torah says Moses was Egyptian. But then again the Europeans claim the Egyptians were white. Yet you,Charles,Wayno,Max,Rory trust them with accuracy of the black man and womans history. But,They all have jobs to keep and can't be trusted no matter the stance they take publically. They take what ever side will keep them employed at the moment.
Nick ain’t lie about the history ,
Mal: i understand the teachings
Rory: yeah especially if the teachings arent true
Mal: .... I understand the teachings
That's the problem with adding white characters to the line up. The Parkers had their white girl, Raven had Chelsea, penny proud had that white girl, etc can't be Black Black Black
Everything Nick Said was right. Nicks only mistake was that he forgot that he was an employee instead of The Boss. Now he has the Opportunity to be The Boss and quit begging these white folks for a job.
Rosie got cancelled for making a joke against someone she didn’t know was black. It’s not always black and white. I know that’s where everyone tries to take everything but sometimes it’s not...with that said nick being cancelled was dumb.
How was it dumb for Nick to be "cancelled" when its people from Nick's side of the political spectrum that set that precedent. The way I see it, they are being consistent by firing Nick.
@@TheDarkGBJ completely agree. i dont agree with cancel culture but i feel like nick had to experience some form of cancellation cause white people have been cancelled for much less
@@TheDarkGBJ How do you know that nick and those who passed his punishment are of the same political spectrum? source?
@@solluminatisscanner855 so you feel because white people before were cancelled that the score must be evened up?
@@mikesmith7136 that wasn't said at all. Thats just how you were trying to make it come across for yourself Lol Sad
They have to be a part of the dialogue in order to have an opinion. Prof Griff and Nick had a conversation about history. A history that is CLEAR. What wasn't he educated on? Let's be fully transparent...Jewish is a religion in other words a belief system not a race which is what society has pushed us to accept. A belief system where they(Jews) feel they are the chosen people of God. Based on written work not based on historical facts.
Joe point on their power and Nick worth was real.
💯 Accurate
They do put us all in a box, we don't have no power to fire anyone... That's the difference
You can group every body together lol he told the truth mfs just sensitive
Some really great points made here. I have been struggling to see all sides one this one. Thanks for the conversation.
Wait at 21:28 Joe started really saying something. That’s all we want to hear!
Need more brothers Like Nick Cannon and Professor Griff ✊🏿
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@@Marccowboy88 I would expect that from you. FOH go throw up on your face 😂😂😂
@@MosMoney187 Are you offended, you little snowflake? 🤗
Can you talk about with Jewish people and United States is doing to Palestine
Not all the jews in America are not Pro Israel. Only right wing jews are pro Israel.
Palestine is a bully that punches someone and then cries when they get jacked up afterwords
@@I-Have-The-Cuckoo Cannon spoke facts.. Which are proven in hundreds scholarly peer reviewed texts written by jewish scholars.. The original people of that land were black..simple and plain
@@justanotherguy4283 nope..their land was stolen..
Nick initially refused to apologize. Its wasnt until after he was fired and was taught that he decided to apologize
I'm not even mad y'all keeping it PC on this topic lol i get it
Did anyone look into the information and the so called Rabbi and his actions? And why not have professor griff and the guy on there to exchange thoughts and ideas instead of just talking the white man's words. Stop talking about stuff I don't have the power to stand behind my people. Also nick creates a lot except for ownership 🤷🏾♂️
Go look up the Jewish almanac 1980 edition keep in mind they wrote it and in it they say they are not related to the HEBREWS the people that have so called white skin and call themselves Jewish are actually Turkish or Russian khazars and other European people that converted to Judaism thus the term JEW-ISH now when you add the ISH to something that means it's like what is being described. Take it one step further for everyone the letter J did not exist in the Hebrew language or alphabet until about 2
thousand years ago GET IT YET
@@coleeason6007 I already know what's up
You mean the same rabbi who went at griff decades ago and got him kicked out the group??
Yup, “a lot except ownership”
Shem was black and his other two brothers as well(Ham and Japeth).
Proof?
I support Nick Cannon 💯 percent. They should’ve never lied about who the people of the Bible are. Only the “devil” would do that
"All belief systems stems from ignorance" the realest shit joe budden ever said...
Great convo gentlemen! We have had many discussions through zoom at my Temple with ways we (Jews) can have open communication with the community. This way misunderstandings and opinions can have an open dialogue. Enjoyed this segment💯
you beta jew im guessin. lol
Byron Maxad excuse me? Read that out loud and ask me again correctly.
When Joe starts yelling.. I start listening!! Cook bruh
Mal be sounding goofy. They do put all black people under that microscope
He goofy as fuck bro. And ppl like him is why we will continue to get nowhere
Se·mit·ic
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1.
relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician and Akkadian, constituting the main subgroup of the Afro-Asiatic family.
2.
relating to the peoples who speak Semitic languages, especially Hebrew and Arabic.
Man this is so funny how can you kick farrakahn off UA-cam then demand someone to speak your truth
What happened to Nick was the result of the power he was speaking on.
I THINK YOU SHOULD STATE WHAT YOUR PERSONAL BELIEF IS ABOUT THE ORIGIN/NATURE OF PEOPLE BEFORE CHIMING IN ON THIS ISSUE. STAY ALL THE WAY OUT, OR ADD YOUR KNOWLEDGE WISDOM UNDERSTANDING TO THE CONVERSATION.
TakeshiMibu1 wow...you’re dumb.
TakeshiMibu1 lmao screaming in caps.
John Q. Are you taking a census poll for the government?
What does our religion and race matter?
If we are Buddhist, Hindu, Baptist, AME, Jewish , Muslim or just Spiritual and Black what difference would it make. We don't answer to any authority on earth. As long as we are attaining knowledge in the way we see fit to become a better human being ....
TakeshiMibu1 I know but you lightened up the chat. That was funny.🙌🏽
Joe cousin Walter sitting back right now like " what the fuck Joe!"
Fickle society. Now everyone running as far as they can from Nick. "You can't speak" Mal you lost me
Joe and stooges avoiding having a real convo , so let me say this.
If anti semetic is racist towards jews , what is a semite and how does that relate to white jews.
Who are the semetic people and does speaking a semetic language make you any more semitic than a black person speaking English who clearly is not english in ethnicity?.
I'll leave that here for people to ponder over.
This show Quiet asf when Joe not talking 🤨
Why does joe blink so much? Is it a medical issue? (Not making a joke im curious)
Y’all weird af sitting there counting how many times another man blinks
Nick never called them evil. However he apologized and shouldn’t have lost his job.
A few months ago nick made a few diss tracks calling another artist a racist, Now he gets fired for hate/racist speech himself, Not only that, but he got fired on his day off, Dats tough!
Free Nick Cannon
So are "black" people the real Jews? No brothers on this platform seem to want to tackle that. That why yall should have left it alone.
No they’re not, carbon dating proves they’re not. The original semites are Middle Eastern. There are European Jews that have basically taken the religion and made it what it is today, but carbon dating proves that original Jews/real Jews are Middle Eastern. The whole notion of blacks being the real Jews is ridiculous, like saying Jesus was black, absolute fucking nonsense. He was most likely Middle Eastern. End of discussion
Shawn Robbins yes they are and Bantu still speak ancient Hebrew. There is over 80 million people who still live in Africa and never lost their Identity. DNA from the slave skelitons found in Eygpt are the same as so called A Americans. Columbus his mission was to find lost Tribes of Israel, when he returned to Queen Isabella of Spain he told her he had found them in the Americas, and the people look like Ethophians.
@@justtruth5855 I know brother. Just tired of all the tip toeing
I wrote that halfway in the video! I see joe came back strong! Good joe! 💪🏾
Yaw clearly don’t know what nick talkin bout but still making it seem like a lie
*It’s clear he’s a racist*
There is a separation between regular racist people and racist people in positions of power in the country.
El Santo no I guess the truth just hurts, who ever speaks about one certain group of ppl in our world u get crucified.
FOH WITH THIS SEGMENT. WHY ARE THEY CALLING OUR BLACK HISTORY SKETCHY? THIS SEGMENT OFFENDED ME.
I’m just gonna say right here... a lot of stuff you guys are talking about is wrong, and a lot of the basis for black’s outrage against Jewish people is rooted in false hoods,
What are you takin about
Alejandro Hernandez it’s not scary given that the majority of this country are sociopaths that lack melanin. 🤷🏽♀️
Alejandro Hernandez you mean bigoted bot racist no one has been enslaved or harmed
Im curious how we interpret history because that's what it boils down to... I think. Nick is educated and are he's views and opinions not based on that education?
Call him out on that. Facts not feelings from passed atrocities, because the Jewish community and the black community have those in spades
What about the forced sterilization of ethiopians in israel? I already mentioned it in this thread (got taken down in just a few minutes lol). Btw Nick was still wrong to group people together the way he did.
The fact that so much backlash came to him, proves his point unfortunately. Freedom of speech is not protected if you criticize AIPAC.
They broke Nick real Quick. Now they got him buck dancing studying to be a rabbi.
It's just sad
These dudes are dancing for their bosses
“That whole state is lookin’ nasty”
Smh tell that to the thousands of Louisvillians who’ve been marching for change. People are literally dying in the streets fighting for change. Smh. I know what he meant but they were JUST talking about not grouping people together.
This is not the oppression Olympics-- one group's oppression does not trump another's Nick spoke from ignorance in what seemed to be an attempt to uplift his people. The larger issue is he is a student of Minister Farrakhan who has made anti-Semitic statements throughout his history and Nick is unapologetic regarding respecting Minister Farrakhan. They tried this same thing with Tamika Mallory in trying to push her to denounce him and she refused. We don't always agree with everything a person says does not mean you have to denounce that person, you can denounce the statements without having to throw the person away.
What was ignorant about what nick said
Joe talking real shit. 👏🏾👏🏾
Joe knows trustbut love how he’s wording to not offend a certain group of people....
When canceling backfires