The Trinity: Unpacking the Debate with Pastor Vaughn

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  • @charitymills8099
    @charitymills8099 13 днів тому +10

    Wow pastor🎉🎉🎉 this was great. I truly admire your patience and love for her. You are my hero here on earth. I thank you for being Yahweh's vessel and all the glory goes to Yahweh. Halleluyah❤❤❤❤

  • @ruanitaroe8189
    @ruanitaroe8189 13 днів тому +4

    Pastor Vaughn can you put back up your comments re. Joni & Jonathan & his wife pls. I don't want to comment any more but I love the way you present it. It's so right. Bless you.

  • @Nyalbertia
    @Nyalbertia 13 днів тому +3

    What an amazing and enlightening conversation!

  • @kennethhuff8296
    @kennethhuff8296 13 днів тому +3

    Wow!! this conversation sure is deep.

  • @marymelero5441
    @marymelero5441 12 днів тому +4

    Pastor Vaughn, thank you.

  • @dianaoconnor6655
    @dianaoconnor6655 10 днів тому +2

    No we are partakers of His divine nature.

  • @karlasears9985
    @karlasears9985 10 днів тому

    Pastor thank for this. So good I need to come through this again and take notes

  • @kennethhuff8296
    @kennethhuff8296 13 днів тому +3

    AMEN..!!

  • @tammylake6595
    @tammylake6595 12 днів тому +1

    Pastor, the difference in the two of you is the difference in you and the rest of us ,you have studied so in depth and your knowledge of the scripture is so vast compared to ours .compared to hers so she can only make truth from what she knows which isn’t a thumbnail of what you know so I’m sticking with you♥️

  • @dianaoconnor6655
    @dianaoconnor6655 10 днів тому

    I do hope that if a new understanding is formed no one is too proud to say l have come to a new understanding and that pride will not keep anyone from divine revelation

  • @jmagangi1634
    @jmagangi1634 13 днів тому +2

    Wonderful conversation

  • @dianaoconnor6655
    @dianaoconnor6655 10 днів тому +1

    We are not in our glorified body yet

  • @kennethhuff8296
    @kennethhuff8296 13 днів тому +2

    Where is everyone come on and come listen to this.

    • @yolandaguerra8894
      @yolandaguerra8894 12 днів тому

      I looked for Professor Toto and then remembered this was his date time... Forgot he had an interview.

  • @GinoLallas
    @GinoLallas 13 днів тому +2

    That’s right, Pastor that’s what every salutation from Paul says

  • @kennethhuff8296
    @kennethhuff8296 13 днів тому +2

    🕎Come on pastor you tell her ✡️

  • @nicholasvaughn8830
    @nicholasvaughn8830 13 днів тому +2

    It makes perfect sense, God’s word is perfect and it is found in its most accurate sense when referred to its greek & hebrew origin, he is simply saying that ALL TRANSLATIONS from that original text, is subject to error!

  • @ruanitaroe8189
    @ruanitaroe8189 13 днів тому +1

    God holds Unity in the Highest regard. You'll see it throughout the Gospels when Jesus is speaking. Jesus is prompting us to get the lessons for ourselves. It's UNITY.

  • @frankcouste4785
    @frankcouste4785 12 днів тому +1

    I’ll roll with the pastor Shane Vaughn aka Professor Toto on his interpretations of anything in the Bible every day a week and twice on Sunday

  • @kennethhuff8296
    @kennethhuff8296 13 днів тому +2

    🧐Remind me not to argue with you pastor Vaughn😂

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому

    The one God , the Father, operates through his son by his spirit just as SS teaches from Gn to Rv.

  • @sandrahaney2931
    @sandrahaney2931 12 днів тому

    You can't get the oneness people to believe that, the Father and the Son are in total agreement in mind and spirit.

  • @mikemazza3749
    @mikemazza3749 13 днів тому +2

    1st john 5-7 for there are 3 that bear record, in heaven the FATHER, the Word and the Holy Ghost, and these 3 are 1

    • @lachelaw6979
      @lachelaw6979 10 днів тому +1

      not found in the original manuscripts.

    • @judycolson6047
      @judycolson6047 День тому

      That verse was manipulated in the Latin vulgate to fit the Catholic trinity doctrine.

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому +1

    I and the Father, We are one. Jn10:30 they are one in unity, purpose work and accomplishment. Jn10:30 in context is about the miracles that God was performing thru Jesus. Jn14:10 The word one does not mean of one substance. The saints are also one. J 17:23 Yet they are distinct beings. Where is the trinity? No where. This young lady is confused and deceived.

  • @nicholasvaughn8830
    @nicholasvaughn8830 13 днів тому +3

    God is perfect, but MAN is not & when you’re basing your argument on the translation of men, rather than the original text, You are making a mistake! Your thoughts cannot be neither masculine/nor feminine. & when you are speaking about something so consequential as religion, YOU MUST GO BEYOND THE SURFACE LEVEL!

  • @kennethhuff8296
    @kennethhuff8296 13 днів тому +2

    😢 well that's amazing🥹

  • @rosemarykelley3078
    @rosemarykelley3078 13 днів тому +2

    interesting...I didn't realize you were non Trinitarian, Pastor.
    I sincerely have a question: How is it possible that anyone was saved/able to know the Truth between the fall of the Roman empire and the invention of the printing press of we all must be literate enough to study scriptures in the original languages to know the Truth? Even modern people who lived before the internet (like my sweet granny- and probably yours , too) had a very simple faith based upon face value reading of the Bible they had.
    Some of the beliefs you explained here about Jesus sound quite like Mormon beliefs about Jesus. They also believe in the Father and the Son, but they do not believe that Jesus is God/Deity.

    • @firstharvestministries
      @firstharvestministries  3 дні тому +1

      Because my sister - a belief in a trinity has nothing to do with salvation or the lack thereof. You didnt need original scriptures for salvation that GOD SENT HIS SON -

    • @rosemarykelley3078
      @rosemarykelley3078 3 дні тому

      @firstharvestministries Thank you for the clarification , Pastor. Jesus BLESS you.

  • @frankcouste4785
    @frankcouste4785 12 днів тому

    Isn’t Yahweh Jehovah the name of God I would assume I mention at least once in the Bible. A pastor by the name of Gino Jennings had a big debate with some people about it, and it sound like he won the debate? I’m just asking?

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому

    El issingular. Elohim refers to the one Gods plural attributes qualities and operations. There is only one God, the Father. 1Cor8:6 God is one, not three. Rom3:30.

  • @dalemudgett8957
    @dalemudgett8957 12 днів тому

    I love that if Christ is in then his body is also

  • @camrywingler1013
    @camrywingler1013 13 днів тому

    Hello!

  • @kennethhuff8296
    @kennethhuff8296 13 днів тому

    0o oh 🙏 young lady you're at an impasse 0..🙌 praise Yahweh

  • @jackieletterman2391
    @jackieletterman2391 13 днів тому

    Missouri in the house

  • @ruanitaroe8189
    @ruanitaroe8189 13 днів тому

    What about Interlinier Bible?

  • @dianaoconnor6655
    @dianaoconnor6655 10 днів тому

    Read proverbs 30 verse 4

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому

    The Son is subject to his God forever. 1Cor15:24,27 The Son has a God. Rv3:12 God is the head of Christ . 1Cor11:3 God is greater than Christ. Jn14:28 Christ belongs to God. Lk9:20 ,Jesus is a man. Ac2:22 Jn:40 Ac17:30,31 Rom5:15 1Tim2:5 lk24:39

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому

    Jesus is the Son of the Most High God. Mk5:7 Mt16:16 Rv21:22

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому

    No one has to believe in a mythical trinty to be saved. The one God sent his son to save us. Jn3:16 Believe in God and believe in me. Jn14:1 God and Christ are two distinct beings. Jesus is at the right hand of God. Ac7:55-57

    • @judycolson6047
      @judycolson6047 23 години тому

      True but if you follow the RCC you have to believe it to be saved. It's in their doctrinal statement clearly.

  • @ruanitaroe8189
    @ruanitaroe8189 13 днів тому

    UNION.

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому

    He who joins the Lord is one spirit with the Lord. 1Cor6:17 Are we therefore God. ? No.

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому

    God is not a son,a firstborn, a begotten, a fellow, a Jew , flesh , . Christ is a creature. Christ is the firstborn of every creature. Col1:15 Christ is the beginning of Gods creation. Rv3:14 God gives the Son his life. Jn5:26 the Son is out of God. Jn8:42 Jesus has a God. Eph1:3

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому

    The only true God , the Father sent Jesus Christ. Jn17:3 Jesus is not the only true God..Jesus is a goD, a Placer with authority. God makes Jesus Lord Ac2:36 God gives jesus his authority. Mt28:18 Jesus is goD representatively.

  • @kennethhuff8296
    @kennethhuff8296 13 днів тому +1

    🥴Young lady don't lock horns with pastor Vaughan.😅

  • @michellefinklestein3219
    @michellefinklestein3219 4 дні тому +1

    Young woman I see clearly now how those that believe in the Trinity get their confusion from. Your tickling ears close to all other information. You really do not listen to the words coming out of this man's mouth.

    • @judycolson6047
      @judycolson6047 23 години тому

      She is hung up on the feminine and masculine in the words. She's believing what many Christians err on in John 1. She thinks that the "word" is the son there instead of how pastor was explaining to her that the masculine isn't referring to Jesus himself, but to the "plans" or "blueprints" that were in Yahweh's mind and thoughts in the beginning. In the beginning was the plan not the son.

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому

    There is no trinity in Gn1:26, Elohim, the Father is speakjng to his Son. Thats two, not three.

    • @judycolson6047
      @judycolson6047 23 години тому

      The son had not come yet. The son was in Yahweh's (God's) mind and thoughts in Genesis. The Elohim was the angels that already were in his family then. God is one.

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому

    Jn10:30 does not say Jesus is God. No trinity there.

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому

    Jn17:5 does not say Jesus is God. God gives the same glory to both Jesus and the saints. Jn17:22,24 Are the saints God? No

  • @dianaoconnor6655
    @dianaoconnor6655 10 днів тому

    The Torah read Hebrews 30 verse 4

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому

    One does not mean consubstantial or of one substance. Jesus is not the same being as God.

  • @dianaoconnor6655
    @dianaoconnor6655 10 днів тому

    Oh the Hebrew version…the Torah

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому

    Jesus says he is Son of God. Jn10:36 Jn19:7 Jesus never says he is God😊

  • @kennethhuff8296
    @kennethhuff8296 13 днів тому

    😮 what do we have here now😅

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому

    Holy spirit does not have a pesonal name and the Father and Son never converse with the spirt. The spirit is never seen in the visions or on the throne with the Father and the Son..The spirit is never worshipped prayed to or believed in yet the Father and son are. The spirit is never mentioned in the introductions. The spirit is an it. In SS a persons spirit is never a second person. Paul and God both say, my spirit. = only one person

  • @michellefinklestein3219
    @michellefinklestein3219 4 дні тому

    Young woman please open your heart, and mind in prayer ask for wisdom. You are very confused.

  • @keithfuson7694
    @keithfuson7694 12 днів тому

    There are no parts in trinity. Your language is sloppy