Chris, Great videos, I am a 49 year young Married father of 2 boys and I used to be an alpine Snow boarder! Just received my XR up in Canada! Watching your videos 2 years later waiting for 2021 Spring! Thanks for sharing and you have great skills. PS my wife says this is my Mid life Crisis...I say bring on the crisis!!! Hope you are doing well if you end up reading this!!
100% agree, I have never had a noisedive and never top 15mph and have just under 1,300 miles on my OneWheel+. Such an incredible machine and sooooooo much fun to ride. Best purchase I've ever made.
great video! Really important safety tip. I learned on one of the new soft turf football fields. Like a knuckle head I would try and go for top speed. I felt these weird readjustment while I was cruising at speed. Thankfully, I realize the board was telling me something and backed off. I maxed out at about 17 to 18 MPH. Then I realized that was stupid crap. Onewheel is to carve, cruise and have fun. Going for top speed is nuts. just enjoy yourself and stop being a hardo.
Wow. Thank you. Just got my Onewheel the other day and I could not for the life of me figure out why my board was leaning back like that. Just did 6 miles around a lake and it kept doing this and I had no idea why. I appreciate this video.
Damn, i did not pay attention to this. First ride i pushed through push back 3 times and crashed hard 3 times on my way to work. Your right, I was so excited and adrenaline was pumping and i did not even notice the push back. On my ride home i paid attention to it and had a safe and very enjoyable float home from work. Thanks again Chris, very valuable information. Push back needs to be understood before going fast. Take it easy new riders!
You said it! Broke my left arm last October on a friends board .... i got one for my birthday this week, a year later. While i made a full recovery, the injury has slowed me down (on the board) for sure, and i now recognise, understand, and appreciate the kick back. That said, I put about 20 miles on my new board day one, and I'm having a blast! No crashes yet! My top speed is 16.3 and I'm just fine with that. Lol.
Hey man, thanks for posting this! My Onewheel is supposed to ship later this month and your video popped up at a good time! I appreciate you emphasizing safety. I’m never riding that thing without a helmet after hearing all of the stories of people getting hurt or dying after not respecting pushback or not wearing a helmet.
Great vid, this explains exactly why I went for a tumble at 19mph when I hit a hill and the board didn't have enough power to balance backwards and the nose clipped the ground launching me like a catapult.
Reminds me of counter steer on motorcycles, a concept that's super important to be aware of to ride safer, but too many riders don't even know it exists.
Awesome video! I'm new to Onewheel and this is an excellent explanation of pushback and why it occurs. I was hesitant of OneWheel reading people on reddit who have experienced nose dives. I realized they are mostly pushing it past its limits and not recognizing this. Thank you sir
This is an amazing instructional on how pushback works. I had a general idea of it from other videos... But after watching this it really makes sense. Thank you
So glad it makes sense to you! Thanks for the feedback! Stay tuned, the next one is going to be how to fall properly, or at least how to minimize injury upon falling.
Just adding to the nose dive stories sadly....! Had OneWheel+ for all of 24 hours before my first major fall. Sadly i rode it long enough to feel confident. A lifetime of surfing and snowboarding makes me do certain things on this board which undoubtedly caused me to eat it much harder than i otherwise might have- namely, i leaned forwards to accelerate the board quickly in order to get past some pedestrians before a cyclist arrived where i was headed. To prepare myself for the surge of power, i leaned slightly forwards in the same way you lean if you're dropping in to a wave or a steep schus section on surf/snowboard. Pressing the nose down, it accelerated to about 15kmh and then suddenly felt like there was a momentary lack of power from the board. Nose down. Centre of gravity was on the nose, and as a result there was only one way down. Big slam, lost a big chunk of skin from both (unprotected) wrists, plus hit my knee (swelling ensued) and have scrapes on both elbows. I was fortunate to escape with that much damage. Not wearing wrist guards is entirely my fault, so be warned that even if you're accomplished and even if you believe in these boards and the associated hype (like i do) it is likely that the technology will surprise you at some point, and its inevitable that when it does miscalculate, it will be to your detriment. If i had not been wearing a very solid piece of Norrona mountaineering kit as a jacket then i would have torn up much worse. The battery at the moment of my crash was at 60% so should not have been struggling to supply the correct power. - I had performed the same acceleration move at least 10 times previously with success. This is neither snowboarding nor surfing and importing feelings you've learned over a lifetime of doing those sports will obscure your judgement about how to ride this new experience safely. I've certainly learned an important lesson from my debatable kookslam (as i say, i didn't do anything wrong, it's just that these things happen): WEAR A HELMET AND WRIST PROTECTORS. Still pretty stoked on OneWheel, but jeopardising my work and other sports for the sake of riding one of these fun gizmos was not really supposed to be part of the plan. - If anyone has other tips on how to avoid the dreaded nosedown then i'm all ears.
I have owned my Onewheel for 3 weeks now and have already had 2 nasty pushback falls (one at 14 MPH and one at 24 MPH). You’re absolutely right!! This is most important concept to understand and I don’t think the manual explains it very well.
The fact that you went right to this topic 1st, causes me to give you major props and respect, and also thank you for doing it for all us newbies or those of us trying to decide if we want to purchase the OW.This is the best explanation and guidance I have seen so far about push back, which is the # 1 reason I have not purchased the OW just yet. I am saying this for myself only- if I buy this, I must accept the fact that 15 mph is about the highest I can safely ride this board, and if I want to go faster than that, then maybe I should purchase an ebike or esk8 instead. If 15mph is ok, with me, the ability to ride almost anywhere and on any surface is ok with me, along with the great surf feel of riding it are ok with me, then this is my ride. As a potential buyer who is researching the product 1st, this seems to be what I am witnessing. The choice is mine. So far, the trade off of me being limited to 15mph max, is the ability to ride safely over all kinds of terrain that esk8s will never be able to in this fashion. So far. Ideally, 20mph before it lifts back would be more acceptable to me, but it is what it is for now. 15mph on a esk8 isn't too bad- you are moving along pretty good, but I don't know what 15mph feels on a smooth OW yet, so I am not sure. I need a test drive somewhere. Thanks for your video- very well done. My biggest rhetorical question is why couldn't they just put a governer on it and auto slow it down and flat out prevent the rider risking serious injury or death in the 1st place?
Excellent idea and video! The more people we can get into our sport and keep in our sport, the better. I also like that you put on your helmet for this vid :)
So true, the worst time people have been thrown off the OneWheel cause they were ignoring push back. An just because your top speed is 19mph on the + does not mean it can counter your forward moment up an to that speed. Pushback is an elusive variable "that changes depending on" that takes speed elevation stress on the motor, voltage Supply available from the battery and stess on battery from multiple high voltage demands in quick succession can make the BMS lower the maximum power output reducing your push back capability. People casually blithely ignore the fact that it takes a modern ARM/RISC processor to keep all these variables and limitations in check to allow you to stay balanced on the device. Also clever programming.
Nice job explaining 'PUSH BACK'...totally agree. I learned the hard way (nothing broken but not fun at all). Hopefully, this video will save others from a nose dive situation. I had a fall at 23mph as well.....If your watching this please listen to what Chris is saying..he's 100% correct!
I have watched both of your videos and I can concur 100%. I went from an Evolve GTX to the Onewheel, and had a dozen or so rides on it before my nosedive crash. I had watched tons of videos about riding and thought I understood pushback. I think the best point in Chris' video is to learn to feel it, and also to have a sense for how fast you are going, so you don't have to be glued to the app on your phone. I was cruising along a bike path and instinctively leaned forward to go even faster (I'm guessing now I was already going 18mph or so) and the next thing I know I was eating pavement. I got some legit road rash and also sprained my ankle pretty badly. (I was wearing a helmet) I am now a little gun-shy on the board but after 3 days of not being able to put weight on my ankle, I've started riding again. I am definitely going to be more aware of my speed and pushback.
Thanks for the vid, wish I watched it before I ate pavement hard on this thing. I wasn’t even near top speed, 10mph. You are absolutely right about sequoia mode, I wish I’d never used it. Got push back at about 10mph because of the mode, didn’t understand what was happening and it made me loose control and pancake onto my back and hit the back of my head. Luckily I had a helmet on. I didn’t even have time to roll a little to absorb the impact, just a straight smack into the ground. No more sequoia mode for me but i will definitely watch my speed make sure i never top it off.
Now you recognize it, and know how to stay safe! Thousands of folks out there riding and loving it don't post about it every day. You see the posts from the new riders who don't know what pushback is and are all surprised that the board "cut off" at 23mph.
Why, instead of a pushback isn't there a sound signal? That would be much more recognizable for all sort of riders. Once you hear a beep, slow down. That way you won't mistake the pushback for anything else.
This is something I've thought of since I got my onewheel over a year ago. Took one nosedive in the first year going over 20, didnt even feel that fast to be honest nor did I feel the pushback. But it makes you learn for sure, and I can definitely say I notice it now. But an audible alarm or something would also be helpful
They should have included a beep or some kinda audible noise for warning on top of pushback. I use a digital speedometer on my phone and set the alarm to 14mph.
Wish I had seen this a few weeks ago. I have had 2 pretty big crashes, hit a bump going 17-18 ish and broke a bone in my hand. (now I at least wear wristguards) And 2 weeks ago the board gave up on keeping me balanced going 22-23 ish. Luckily the wristguards saved me from any major injuries on that and I just needed to stay off the board for about a week.
I'm wondering if they should have implemented a "pushfront": when you reach the limit the nose slightly points down instead that up and you react leaning back, therefore slowing down...anyway great video! I just ordered a Pint and I try to get more information as possible before my first ride!
Great job Chris, appreciate your help as I just ordered one! You should set up a paypal link for us that want to donate to you for your time and effort you provide.
Thanks so much! You're going to love it! I'd never thought of that, and I really don't need the money, but maybe it would be fun if I used the money to do Onewheel product giveaways? Here's a link: www.paypal.me/i8u
The GOTWAY M supers have an audible series of warnings as you approach the shut off threshold. This is likely because pushback is not enough on one wheel devices when shutoff will result in throwing the rider 100% of the time. I own both a Onewheel and M Super and prefer this on the GOTWAY for piece of mind.
This is in fact how it works for the GOTWAY. You can adjust or cancel all warnings except the very last one which is 10 seconds away from total shutoff. I have always been pleased this is the case as I am sure everyone is. No one celebrates the surprise of the nosedive! :)
I at it after the push back, had a mad road rash on my back, didnt broke anyhthing. Just had to apply aloe twice daily. And now I am back on my onewheel with safety gear and not ignoring the pushback
So, the question that arises, and maybe an idea for a video related to this one is: How can someone reach the maximum speed of the Onewheel safety? I'm a big fan of speed so I prefer to ask to those much more experienced than me, and maybe save me some crushes. thank for your series on beginners, will check more of your content
Roser Lafuente Rodés I think I’ve covered it pretty thoroughly that I consider anything above 15mph to be unsafe. If you want to push past that, there are techniques that have worked for some people but I won’t be covering them. I don’t think it’s a good idea. I like my collar bones unbroken.
Thumbs-Up #179 I am, Sunday early evening 14 October 2018. Thank You for a great video! I am still trying to decide between a One Wheel and an electric longboard. I like electric personal conveyances, but am taking my time to decide. Thank You again.
whiteribbonman1 there are advantages to both, but I like the Onewheel a lot better. They also hold their value REALLY well, so if you get a used Onewheel Plus, you can probably get your money back if you don’t like it. Good luck, pad up and have fun!
A friend has a boosted board and hates that i leave him in the dust.... literally, they don't go off road at all... my onewheel doesn't mind sand, gravel, grass, etc. And the turning radius of a onewheel is literally on a dime... try rotating in place on a boosted....
@@fishrowe420 but that can't be right, Boosted boards have a higher top speed and longer range! ;) Yep, Onewheel does it all. Not the fastest (fast=hurt or dead anyway) but definitely the funnest. And no handheld remotes! Float on, brah!
Everyone should remember that the faster you go on the board the proportional difficult it will become to keep the board perfectly balanced. Means the more you must rely on your skill at balancing and not being able to relying on the motor to keep you balanced the faster you go.
the guy the name yes! And if you’re already thoroughly into a pushback condition above 15mph, you are pushing hard on the nose, way past a balanced state, and when the board stops balancing you, your front foot slams down.
I've never thought of it that way, but it makes sense. If you know what to expect, that's a good way to ease up to, and practice pushback. Thanks for that.
Great video, thanks! I'm also hoping you might have an idea on which profile is "best/better" to use when it comes to a Pint...? Any advice appreciated.
I have two concerns about the Onewheel. One is how to recognize push back, since so many people say they had no idea they were going that fast when they crashed. The other is how much fun it is to ride at speeds below push back.
jlk250 I think this video addresses pretty thoroughly how to feel the pushback. Once you know what it is, it’s pretty obvious and easy to just ease back a bit when you feel it. It’s awesome at 15mph! 15mph is fast and fun, and once you’re really comfortable at that speed feel free to push a little faster, but I don’t feel that need. I love cruising around at 15 or below. I can ride faster if I want to, but I don’t like idea of falling at high speed.
Chris Richardson Thanks for the video and the reply. I'll be better prepared for it when I finally get my XR. As a newbie, I appreciate that you are trying to help folks like me out.
@@jlk250 I crashed at 26 mph from ignoring push back... Honestly there is no reason to go that fast since then I've just been riding to have fun not even really paying attention to speed and rarely do I get going over 15 mph
@@MGreening42 I am now a fellow OW rider and so far am uninjured. I do not exceed pushback speed, though TBH I wish pushback was at 18 mph instead of 15.
@@jlk250 Yes this is true fast is fun but one wipe out later and you'll learn a whole new level of appreciate... Remember push back isn't only from speed, it's the boards way of telling you it's reaching its safe limitation... You can experience push back from overcharging your battery through regen braking or from accelerating too fast up hill or into the wind
Question about push back. So depending upon mode and speed within that mode if the speed is exceeded slightly PUSH BACK WILL KICK IN? I mean if let's say another mode gives you just 20mph and you exceed that slightly Push Back will also kick in ? I understand push back, but does push back only occur in modes with set speeds or can happen anytime if there is something wrong ???? I didn't yet buy the One Wheel I am just out there on UA-cam with feeler antenna thinking about it. Should I still buy one in your opinion? I am 52
The first two modes, Cruise and Sequoia are not just ill-advised, I consider them dangerous. The pushback starts super early. Don't ever use them. In all the other modes pushback starts at about 16mph. Once you hit that speed and continue to accelerate, you'll feel resistance on the nose/it will raise up. If you keep pushing past that point the nose will still feel lifted/resisting you but it will let you continue to accelerate until the board can no longer both balance you and accelerate. Balancing fails first (this is the safest way to fail) and it will almost always cause the nosedive, because you've already been leaning too far forward and now the board is no longer balancing you. The best thing to do is to gently accelerate to 16mph and pay close attention and notice the pushback phenomenon. Then just don't go past that. 16mph is plenty fast, and nice and (reasonably) safe. 16mph is your friend.
@@Onewheeel thank you very much for the reply this is incredible good solid foresight information which I can definitely use if and when my purchase commences? 16 miles per hour sounds good to me I was never thinking of flying like a ridiculous rocket on it anyway😉👌 Makes me wonder about the PINT and its 16mph speed. Can you comment on the PINT speed and range? In your opinion do you think the PINT speed and range is worth getting or should someone like me just do the XR?
Hi. Thank a lot for your videos. You really helped me in this first month with my onewheel. Now that I’m building a bit of confidence (70miles) and haven’t reached 15mph (I just like carving and a bit of offroad), is it possibile to nosedive BELOW 15mph without receiving any pushback? Like for example carving while going uphill... is it going a pushback? Thanks!
Great videos thanks so much. Out of curiosity why do people have several Onewheels? I guess not because they can? I think they built like a tank, is it correct? so... one is enough for yourself, or I am missing something?
As for me, I like to have a spare board for friends, but also because with the abuse I put my boards through they need frequent repairs. I can't stand to be without a board so I try to keep spares on hand to ride while I send a board back. Unfortunately just the FedEx ground travel time round trip to the factory is 16 days, and that doesn't include customer service and repair time.
Chris, thank you for your answer. I just bought XR in Australia, no service here... What are the typical maintenance I will need to deal with, except tyre change and pad tape change?
After 300 miles I'm still not sure about if I can sense the pushback. The concept is clear and super important but it's hard noticing the pushback IMHO.
papperlapapp it’s important that you develop that sensitivity so you know when it’s happening. Use your phone to see when you approach 15mph and then notice as you go farther how it starts to happen.
Hey I finally got a onewheel and my first ride I could only go maybe 20 min due to not having necessary muscles and now there is a lot of rain in the forecast. Anything I could do on rainy days to try and build up the required muscles?
Big question, Rich I am close to buying the One Wheel XR. I am not a speed demon but still i want to put fangs on my board. Can you tell me if the fangs will really help in avoiding hitting the pavement and ride the small wheels till I stop ????
RIDE w/ PRIDE they can help in some situations, but aren’t going to save most nosedives. Just having seen this video and understanding the concepts here are going to make you a lot less likely to cause a nosedive. I’m actually scheduled to get a set of the new Fangs Minis to test and review soon!
Check out the NYC Onewheel group on Facebook, those guys could attest to how well they are received by the authorities and the public in NYC. Most cities don't care, and they are a great way to get around. Some cities don't like them, so it's best to ask the local riders. Most of the time if you just act appropriately people don't mind. The biggest problem I have riding is that so many people are amazed by it that they want to stop me and talk about it! (Not really a problem, I love to talk about them!)
I don't ride much in urban streets like that, it's a bit scary to me, as drivers can be unpredictable. Definitely ride a helmet, but it won't help all that much if a soccer mom in an Escallade is screaming at the kids, texting, and putting on makeup and runs you over.
As someone looking into getting a OneWheel.... Thanks for the info! I'm wondering why they couldn't program in an audio cue either by adding a small beep/speaker to the board itself or using your phone (via the app) seems easy enough.
@@Onewheeel yep, I wasn't connecting anymore with my board and One wheel app and it's definitely bugs in the Android Bluetooth. Found another app (One wave) and phone and board connecting. Thanks for your help, I really dig your videos.
Sorry, man. It is easier to be felt than to explain. So you're cruising along and the board is riding relatively level. You slowly increase the speed and at some point (about 15mph) you aren't doing anything different, but the front end of the board raises up and the tail lowers. You slow down slightly and it goes back level again. You can keep pushing down harder on the nose and go past 15mph, but I don't recommend it. You no longer have a signal from the board to let you know when you max out its available power.
In order to "save" you it throws you off? Thats stupid. Why wont it just top out? Or hit a limiter? Or slow down automatically? You can get the "Fang" upgrade , 2 wheels up front so if you fall forward, you fall on the wheels and dont fall off.
Ching G how would it top out? By reducing power? What happens then? Think about it, this is the most efficient way of warning you until it runs out of power.
Many people have broken bones and sustained other serious injuries at speeds well under 20mph. I'm trying to get beginner riders going as safely as possible. Once they are comfortable enough to ride faster than 15mph against my recommendation, that's all on them. Also, you did fall, so you're kind of proving my point.
I got my leg ripped off, shattered, infected from getting hit at a stop light by a car going under 10mph. I was standing still minding my own business. You ignorant to experience.
F=ma. It is very possible to have a fatal concussion at 20mph, depending upon how you fall. If you're completely unprepared for the collision, severe injury is likely, not unlikely.
Sam Mackeben That's funny I was on my motorcycle standing still at a stoplight, got sideswiped by a car now looking in their blind spot got my leg ripped off die twice, car was going less than 15 an hour. you're just inexperienced it's okay get hit by a couple of cars run into a few trees you'll figure it out or you'll die trying... Noobs
Three weeks ago I was on my one will crossing a crosswalk when I had the right away. Cars drove into me even though I had the right away. Was a hit and run. But I had all my pads on and my motorcycle helmet on. So was able to stay out of the hospital. But if you were me without the armor you probably not be having this conversation.
"...it's not going to be able to balance you at 15MPH..." "...there are a lot of stories of people...who have injured themselves for life..." "...the only thing they can do for you is give you a push-back (that is ignored by many riders)..." The ONLY thing that it can do? Really? Software can't limit the speed and continue to be able to manage to balance you? Sounds like a deadly design flaw to me.
Man, that tree behind you needs a pushback! Great advice BTW.
Chris,
Great videos, I am a 49 year young Married father of 2 boys and I used to be an alpine Snow boarder! Just received my XR up in Canada! Watching your videos 2 years later waiting for 2021 Spring! Thanks for sharing and you have great skills. PS my wife says this is my Mid life Crisis...I say bring on the crisis!!! Hope you are doing well if you end up reading this!!
100% agree, I have never had a noisedive and never top 15mph and have just under 1,300 miles on my OneWheel+. Such an incredible machine and sooooooo much fun to ride. Best purchase I've ever made.
How many times have you fallen?
yeah 15 is a good top speed
great video! Really important safety tip. I learned on one of the new soft turf football fields. Like a knuckle head I would try and go for top speed. I felt these weird readjustment while I was cruising at speed. Thankfully, I realize the board was telling me something and backed off. I maxed out at about 17 to 18 MPH. Then I realized that was stupid crap. Onewheel is to carve, cruise and have fun. Going for top speed is nuts. just enjoy yourself and stop being a hardo.
Great advice 👍. Another thing new riders should know...if you accelerate too hard from a stop, the board cuts off without pushback
Wow. Thank you. Just got my Onewheel the other day and I could not for the life of me figure out why my board was leaning back like that. Just did 6 miles around a lake and it kept doing this and I had no idea why. I appreciate this video.
Damn, i did not pay attention to this. First ride i pushed through push back 3 times and crashed hard 3 times on my way to work. Your right, I was so excited and adrenaline was pumping and i did not even notice the push back. On my ride home i paid attention to it and had a safe and very enjoyable float home from work. Thanks again Chris, very valuable information. Push back needs to be understood before going fast. Take it easy new riders!
Excellent Information! Thanks! Now it makes so much better sense!
Chris...Awesome video, thanks for creating this. Very insightful and helpful.
Although I've heard alot about pushback, nobody has shown and explained this as well as you did. Kudos! just ordered mine cant wait!
You said it! Broke my left arm last October on a friends board .... i got one for my birthday this week, a year later. While i made a full recovery, the injury has slowed me down (on the board) for sure, and i now recognise, understand, and appreciate the kick back. That said, I put about 20 miles on my new board day one, and I'm having a blast! No crashes yet! My top speed is 16.3 and I'm just fine with that. Lol.
Hey man, thanks for posting this! My Onewheel is supposed to ship later this month and your video popped up at a good time! I appreciate you emphasizing safety. I’m never riding that thing without a helmet after hearing all of the stories of people getting hurt or dying after not respecting pushback or not wearing a helmet.
Great vid, this explains exactly why I went for a tumble at 19mph when I hit a hill and the board didn't have enough power to balance backwards and the nose clipped the ground launching me like a catapult.
Reminds me of counter steer on motorcycles, a concept that's super important to be aware of to ride safer, but too many riders don't even know it exists.
Awesome video! I'm new to Onewheel and this is an excellent explanation of pushback and why it occurs. I was hesitant of OneWheel reading people on reddit who have experienced nose dives. I realized they are mostly pushing it past its limits and not recognizing this. Thank you sir
This is an amazing instructional on how pushback works. I had a general idea of it from other videos... But after watching this it really makes sense. Thank you
So glad it makes sense to you! Thanks for the feedback! Stay tuned, the next one is going to be how to fall properly, or at least how to minimize injury upon falling.
Good video. Yeah people should know you can get hurt. Stay below 15 mph. Balance is the main thing. Stay within yourself
Just adding to the nose dive stories sadly....! Had OneWheel+ for all of 24 hours before my first major fall. Sadly i rode it long enough to feel confident. A lifetime of surfing and snowboarding makes me do certain things on this board which undoubtedly caused me to eat it much harder than i otherwise might have- namely, i leaned forwards to accelerate the board quickly in order to get past some pedestrians before a cyclist arrived where i was headed. To prepare myself for the surge of power, i leaned slightly forwards in the same way you lean if you're dropping in to a wave or a steep schus section on surf/snowboard. Pressing the nose down, it accelerated to about 15kmh and then suddenly felt like there was a momentary lack of power from the board. Nose down. Centre of gravity was on the nose, and as a result there was only one way down. Big slam, lost a big chunk of skin from both (unprotected) wrists, plus hit my knee (swelling ensued) and have scrapes on both elbows. I was fortunate to escape with that much damage. Not wearing wrist guards is entirely my fault, so be warned that even if you're accomplished and even if you believe in these boards and the associated hype (like i do) it is likely that the technology will surprise you at some point, and its inevitable that when it does miscalculate, it will be to your detriment. If i had not been wearing a very solid piece of Norrona mountaineering kit as a jacket then i would have torn up much worse. The battery at the moment of my crash was at 60% so should not have been struggling to supply the correct power.
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I had performed the same acceleration move at least 10 times previously with success.
This is neither snowboarding nor surfing and importing feelings you've learned over a lifetime of doing those sports will obscure your judgement about how to ride this new experience safely.
I've certainly learned an important lesson from my debatable kookslam (as i say, i didn't do anything wrong, it's just that these things happen): WEAR A HELMET AND WRIST PROTECTORS.
Still pretty stoked on OneWheel, but jeopardising my work and other sports for the sake of riding one of these fun gizmos was not really supposed to be part of the plan.
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If anyone has other tips on how to avoid the dreaded nosedown then i'm all ears.
I have owned my Onewheel for 3 weeks now and have already had 2 nasty pushback falls (one at 14 MPH and one at 24 MPH). You’re absolutely right!! This is most important concept to understand and I don’t think the manual explains it very well.
The fact that you went right to this topic 1st, causes me to give you major props and respect, and also thank you for doing it for all us newbies or those of us trying to decide if we want to purchase the OW.This is the best explanation and guidance I have seen so far about push back, which is the # 1 reason I have not purchased the OW just yet. I am saying this for myself only- if I buy this, I must accept the fact that 15 mph is about the highest I can safely ride this board, and if I want to go faster than that, then maybe I should purchase an ebike or esk8 instead. If 15mph is ok, with me, the ability to ride almost anywhere and on any surface is ok with me, along with the great surf feel of riding it are ok with me, then this is my ride.
As a potential buyer who is researching the product 1st, this seems to be what I am witnessing. The choice is mine. So far, the trade off of me being limited to 15mph max, is the ability to ride safely over all kinds of terrain that esk8s will never be able to in this fashion. So far. Ideally, 20mph before it lifts back would be more acceptable to me, but it is what it is for now. 15mph on a esk8 isn't too bad- you are moving along pretty good, but I don't know what 15mph feels on a smooth OW yet, so I am not sure. I need a test drive somewhere. Thanks for your video- very well done. My biggest rhetorical question is why couldn't they just put a governer on it and auto slow it down and flat out prevent the rider risking serious injury or death in the 1st place?
Thanks for a great tip! Just got my onewheel XR+ & I want to ride safe & avoid the dangerwheel connotation
Great video series! Onewheel should include this with their boards, specially the part about pushback in detail.
Thanks for this bro, I just ordered my XR and I definitely want to avoid falling. Excellently explained, keep it up!
Excellent idea and video! The more people we can get into our sport and keep in our sport, the better. I also like that you put on your helmet for this vid :)
So true, the worst time people have been thrown off the OneWheel cause they were ignoring push back. An just because your top speed is 19mph on the + does not mean it can counter your forward moment up an to that speed.
Pushback is an elusive variable "that changes depending on" that takes speed elevation stress on the motor, voltage Supply available from the battery and stess on battery from multiple high voltage demands in quick succession can make the BMS lower the maximum power output reducing your push back capability.
People casually blithely ignore the fact that it takes a modern ARM/RISC processor to keep all these variables and limitations in check to allow you to stay balanced on the device.
Also clever programming.
I get my first one in June. This is helping me know what to expect. My Segway i2 had pushback also.
You're in for a treat! These things are ridiculously fun!
Nice job explaining 'PUSH BACK'...totally agree. I learned the hard way (nothing broken but not fun at all). Hopefully, this video will save others from a nose dive situation. I had a fall at 23mph as well.....If your watching this please listen to what Chris is saying..he's 100% correct!
I have watched both of your videos and I can concur 100%. I went from an Evolve GTX to the Onewheel, and had a dozen or so rides on it before my nosedive crash. I had watched tons of videos about riding and thought I understood pushback. I think the best point in Chris' video is to learn to feel it, and also to have a sense for how fast you are going, so you don't have to be glued to the app on your phone. I was cruising along a bike path and instinctively leaned forward to go even faster (I'm guessing now I was already going 18mph or so) and the next thing I know I was eating pavement. I got some legit road rash and also sprained my ankle pretty badly. (I was wearing a helmet) I am now a little gun-shy on the board but after 3 days of not being able to put weight on my ankle, I've started riding again. I am definitely going to be more aware of my speed and pushback.
Thanks for the vid, wish I watched it before I ate pavement hard on this thing. I wasn’t even near top speed, 10mph. You are absolutely right about sequoia mode, I wish I’d never used it. Got push back at about 10mph because of the mode, didn’t understand what was happening and it made me loose control and pancake onto my back and hit the back of my head. Luckily I had a helmet on. I didn’t even have time to roll a little to absorb the impact, just a straight smack into the ground. No more sequoia mode for me but i will definitely watch my speed make sure i never top it off.
Thanks for the information just got a board and never experienced this before
Thanks Chris! My onewheel ships next week, this was very helpful!
Tim Campbell you are going to love it! Gear up, be safe and have a blast!
very helpful Chris, I just got one and am worried about push back
Now you recognize it, and know how to stay safe! Thousands of folks out there riding and loving it don't post about it every day. You see the posts from the new riders who don't know what pushback is and are all surprised that the board "cut off" at 23mph.
I wish there was a beep or something together with the pushback that beginners could turn on
I would listen to your podcast, if you have one. This is a 360 degree lesson. And you know what NLP is.
I've thought about it, that's a great idea! Maybe something will happen!
This was the best beginner video I've seen. >>subscribe
Why, instead of a pushback isn't there a sound signal? That would be much more recognizable for all sort of riders. Once you hear a beep, slow down. That way you won't mistake the pushback for anything else.
Or a combination of both, in case you’re listening to music
This is something I've thought of since I got my onewheel over a year ago. Took one nosedive in the first year going over 20, didnt even feel that fast to be honest nor did I feel the pushback. But it makes you learn for sure, and I can definitely say I notice it now. But an audible alarm or something would also be helpful
The app makes noise like overcharge and to fast warning. The pushback is great. Add on the fang and it is a bit safer.
Yeah it's weird since a audible alarm is the first thing I do on my drones for Voltage drops.
First thing to know is don’t get frustrated for at least 5-10 hours of riding. Everyone eventually gets it but is not instant. It takes time
They should have included a beep or some kinda audible noise for warning on top of pushback. I use a digital speedometer on my phone and set the alarm to 14mph.
Wish I had seen this a few weeks ago. I have had 2 pretty big crashes, hit a bump going 17-18 ish and broke a bone in my hand. (now I at least wear wristguards) And 2 weeks ago the board gave up on keeping me balanced going 22-23 ish. Luckily the wristguards saved me from any major injuries on that and I just needed to stay off the board for about a week.
dang that is harsh
THEY NEED TO PUT A VERRY LOUD BEEPING PLUS VIBRATING FEATURE ON THE BOARD AND YOUR PHONE!!!
Yeah they need that to where you can set it up
Great video, everyone should practice braking with carves at a steady speed to get comfortable.
I'm wondering if they should have implemented a "pushfront": when you reach the limit the nose slightly points down instead that up and you react leaning back, therefore slowing down...anyway great video! I just ordered a Pint and I try to get more information as possible before my first ride!
Great job Chris, appreciate your help as I just ordered one! You should set up a paypal link for us that want to donate to you for your time and effort you provide.
Thanks so much! You're going to love it!
I'd never thought of that, and I really don't need the money, but maybe it would be fun if I used the money to do Onewheel product giveaways? Here's a link: www.paypal.me/i8u
The GOTWAY M supers have an audible series of warnings as you approach the shut off threshold. This is likely because pushback is not enough on one wheel devices when shutoff will result in throwing the rider 100% of the time. I own both a Onewheel and M Super and prefer this on the GOTWAY for piece of mind.
thatguychad sounds like a good idea as long as it can be adjusted and/or disabled.
This is in fact how it works for the GOTWAY. You can adjust or cancel all warnings except the very last one which is 10 seconds away from total shutoff. I have always been pleased this is the case as I am sure everyone is. No one celebrates the surprise of the nosedive! :)
I at it after the push back, had a mad road rash on my back, didnt broke anyhthing. Just had to apply aloe twice daily. And now I am back on my onewheel with safety gear and not ignoring the pushback
Ride on!
So, the question that arises, and maybe an idea for a video related to this one is: How can someone reach the maximum speed of the Onewheel safety?
I'm a big fan of speed so I prefer to ask to those much more experienced than me, and maybe save me some crushes.
thank for your series on beginners, will check more of your content
Roser Lafuente Rodés I think I’ve covered it pretty thoroughly that I consider anything above 15mph to be unsafe. If you want to push past that, there are techniques that have worked for some people but I won’t be covering them. I don’t think it’s a good idea. I like my collar bones unbroken.
Thank you so much!!
Very helpful, thank you!
Thumbs-Up #179 I am, Sunday early evening 14 October 2018. Thank You for a great video! I am still trying to decide between a One Wheel and an electric longboard. I like electric personal conveyances, but am taking my time to decide. Thank You again.
whiteribbonman1 there are advantages to both, but I like the Onewheel a lot better. They also hold their value REALLY well, so if you get a used Onewheel Plus, you can probably get your money back if you don’t like it. Good luck, pad up and have fun!
A friend has a boosted board and hates that i leave him in the dust.... literally, they don't go off road at all... my onewheel doesn't mind sand, gravel, grass, etc. And the turning radius of a onewheel is literally on a dime... try rotating in place on a boosted....
@@fishrowe420 but that can't be right, Boosted boards have a higher top speed and longer range! ;) Yep, Onewheel does it all. Not the fastest (fast=hurt or dead anyway) but definitely the funnest. And no handheld remotes! Float on, brah!
I understand pushback (Segway has it as well)... but what about an old fashion buzzer???
A beeping thing would catch the rider's attention 100%.
Andrea Bronzini try the Floatdeck app. You can set it to tell you when you reach a certain speed, etc.
My helmet covers my ears, I prefer the tactile feedback.
Can’t find float deck up for Europe :(
Everyone should remember that the faster you go on the board the proportional difficult it will become to keep the board perfectly balanced. Means the more you must rely on your skill at balancing and not being able to relying on the motor to keep you balanced the faster you go.
the guy the name yes! And if you’re already thoroughly into a pushback condition above 15mph, you are pushing hard on the nose, way past a balanced state, and when the board stops balancing you, your front foot slams down.
Chris Richardson exactamundo
I disagree on sequoia. If you take it slow and make an effort to understand the pushback, you can learn what it feels like at safer speed
I've never thought of it that way, but it makes sense. If you know what to expect, that's a good way to ease up to, and practice pushback. Thanks for that.
good point kudos
Great video, thanks! I'm also hoping you might have an idea on which profile is "best/better" to use when it comes to a Pint...? Any advice appreciated.
Both of Pacifica and Skyline are very good, I haven't decided which one I like better.
@@Onewheeel Cheers for the reply, Chris....appreciated! :)
I wish I saw this video before I ate it at 23.6 mph and dislocated my knee
BlueNightmare I hope you healed up great and got back to riding safely!
You shouldn’t of needed this video to figure that out
I have two concerns about the Onewheel. One is how to recognize push back, since so many people say they had no idea they were going that fast when they crashed. The other is how much fun it is to ride at speeds below push back.
jlk250 I think this video addresses pretty thoroughly how to feel the pushback. Once you know what it is, it’s pretty obvious and easy to just ease back a bit when you feel it. It’s awesome at 15mph! 15mph is fast and fun, and once you’re really comfortable at that speed feel free to push a little faster, but I don’t feel that need. I love cruising around at 15 or below. I can ride faster if I want to, but I don’t like idea of falling at high speed.
Chris Richardson Thanks for the video and the reply. I'll be better prepared for it when I finally get my XR. As a newbie, I appreciate that you are trying to help folks like me out.
@@jlk250 I crashed at 26 mph from ignoring push back... Honestly there is no reason to go that fast since then I've just been riding to have fun not even really paying attention to speed and rarely do I get going over 15 mph
@@MGreening42 I am now a fellow OW rider and so far am uninjured. I do not exceed pushback speed, though TBH I wish pushback was at 18 mph instead of 15.
@@jlk250 Yes this is true fast is fun but one wipe out later and you'll learn a whole new level of appreciate... Remember push back isn't only from speed, it's the boards way of telling you it's reaching its safe limitation... You can experience push back from overcharging your battery through regen braking or from accelerating too fast up hill or into the wind
Question about push back. So depending upon mode and speed within that mode if the speed is exceeded slightly PUSH BACK WILL KICK IN? I mean if let's say another mode gives you just 20mph and you exceed that slightly Push Back will also kick in ? I understand push back, but does push back only occur in modes with set speeds or can happen anytime if there is something wrong ????
I didn't yet buy the One Wheel I am just out there on UA-cam with feeler antenna thinking about it. Should I still buy one in your opinion? I am 52
The first two modes, Cruise and Sequoia are not just ill-advised, I consider them dangerous. The pushback starts super early. Don't ever use them. In all the other modes pushback starts at about 16mph. Once you hit that speed and continue to accelerate, you'll feel resistance on the nose/it will raise up. If you keep pushing past that point the nose will still feel lifted/resisting you but it will let you continue to accelerate until the board can no longer both balance you and accelerate. Balancing fails first (this is the safest way to fail) and it will almost always cause the nosedive, because you've already been leaning too far forward and now the board is no longer balancing you. The best thing to do is to gently accelerate to 16mph and pay close attention and notice the pushback phenomenon. Then just don't go past that. 16mph is plenty fast, and nice and (reasonably) safe. 16mph is your friend.
@@Onewheeel thank you very much for the reply this is incredible good solid foresight information which I can definitely use if and when my purchase commences? 16 miles per hour sounds good to me I was never thinking of flying like a ridiculous rocket on it anyway😉👌
Makes me wonder about the PINT and its 16mph speed. Can you comment on the PINT speed and range? In your opinion do you think the PINT speed and range is worth getting or should someone like me just do the XR?
Great explanation. Sound legit 👍🏽
Hi. Thank a lot for your videos. You really helped me in this first month with my onewheel. Now that I’m building a bit of confidence (70miles) and haven’t reached 15mph (I just like carving and a bit of offroad), is it possibile to nosedive BELOW 15mph without receiving any pushback? Like for example carving while going uphill... is it going a pushback? Thanks!
Great videos thanks so much. Out of curiosity why do people have several Onewheels? I guess not because they can? I think they built like a tank, is it correct? so... one is enough for yourself, or I am missing something?
As for me, I like to have a spare board for friends, but also because with the abuse I put my boards through they need frequent repairs. I can't stand to be without a board so I try to keep spares on hand to ride while I send a board back. Unfortunately just the FedEx ground travel time round trip to the factory is 16 days, and that doesn't include customer service and repair time.
Chris, thank you for your answer. I just bought XR in Australia, no service here... What are the typical maintenance I will need to deal with, except tyre change and pad tape change?
After 300 miles I'm still not sure about if I can sense the pushback. The concept is clear and super important but it's hard noticing the pushback IMHO.
papperlapapp it’s important that you develop that sensitivity so you know when it’s happening. Use your phone to see when you approach 15mph and then notice as you go farther how it starts to happen.
I hope the beeping alert in GT will save me from nose dive. 😅
Nearly shattered my hip. I simply did not understand how the relative angle of attack of a hill affects torque and balance. I'm still recovering.
Hey I finally got a onewheel and my first ride I could only go maybe 20 min due to not having necessary muscles and now there is a lot of rain in the forecast. Anything I could do on rainy days to try and build up the required muscles?
Big question, Rich I am close to buying the One Wheel XR. I am not a speed demon but still i want to put fangs on my board. Can you tell me if the fangs will really help in avoiding hitting the pavement and ride the small wheels till I stop ????
RIDE w/ PRIDE they can help in some situations, but aren’t going to save most nosedives. Just having seen this video and understanding the concepts here are going to make you a lot less likely to cause a nosedive. I’m actually scheduled to get a set of the new Fangs Minis to test and review soon!
@@Onewheeel
That's terrific on the newer fangs review😲👌
Please go over in detail with close ups. Are these the Aluminum?
How are these in urban streets such as in NYC? Bad idea?
Check out the NYC Onewheel group on Facebook, those guys could attest to how well they are received by the authorities and the public in NYC. Most cities don't care, and they are a great way to get around. Some cities don't like them, so it's best to ask the local riders. Most of the time if you just act appropriately people don't mind. The biggest problem I have riding is that so many people are amazed by it that they want to stop me and talk about it! (Not really a problem, I love to talk about them!)
I don't ride much in urban streets like that, it's a bit scary to me, as drivers can be unpredictable. Definitely ride a helmet, but it won't help all that much if a soccer mom in an Escallade is screaming at the kids, texting, and putting on makeup and runs you over.
As someone looking into getting a OneWheel.... Thanks for the info! I'm wondering why they couldn't program in an audio cue either by adding a small beep/speaker to the board itself or using your phone (via the app) seems easy enough.
clkoontz3 download the Floatdeck app, it has all of that and more.
Can't find float deck app?
Michael Wertz it’s only on iOS, maybe that’s the problem.
@@Onewheeel yep, I wasn't connecting anymore with my board and One wheel app and it's definitely bugs in the Android Bluetooth. Found another app (One wave) and phone and board connecting. Thanks for your help, I really dig your videos.
I wasn't even going too speed, maybe 8 or mph at the time but something happened lol 4 staples later
Roger B yes anything can happen. I practice balancing on an unpowered board in my house. It’s very challenging
I still don’t fully understand push back based off this video. All u kept sayin is the nose will raise....like 30x
Sorry, man. It is easier to be felt than to explain. So you're cruising along and the board is riding relatively level. You slowly increase the speed and at some point (about 15mph) you aren't doing anything different, but the front end of the board raises up and the tail lowers. You slow down slightly and it goes back level again. You can keep pushing down harder on the nose and go past 15mph, but I don't recommend it. You no longer have a signal from the board to let you know when you max out its available power.
When you get there, you'll know. The key is to recognize that that's what's happening... and just back off a lil.
Rule number one for me cause I’m old: Don’t fall.
He talks about physics just look at the pine tree how's it not falling over
good review, so much better than jimmy chang, I hate that guy
In order to "save" you it throws you off? Thats stupid. Why wont it just top out? Or hit a limiter? Or slow down automatically? You can get the "Fang" upgrade , 2 wheels up front so if you fall forward, you fall on the wheels and dont fall off.
Ching G how would it top out? By reducing power? What happens then? Think about it, this is the most efficient way of warning you until it runs out of power.
Your not gonna die going 20 mph, I fell going 21 and all I got was a little bit of road rash, not a funeral.
Many people have broken bones and sustained other serious injuries at speeds well under 20mph. I'm trying to get beginner riders going as safely as possible. Once they are comfortable enough to ride faster than 15mph against my recommendation, that's all on them. Also, you did fall, so you're kind of proving my point.
I got my leg ripped off, shattered, infected from getting hit at a stop light by a car going under 10mph. I was standing still minding my own business.
You ignorant to experience.
F=ma. It is very possible to have a fatal concussion at 20mph, depending upon how you fall. If you're completely unprepared for the collision, severe injury is likely, not unlikely.
Sam Mackeben That's funny I was on my motorcycle standing still at a stoplight, got sideswiped by a car now looking in their blind spot got my leg ripped off die twice, car was going less than 15 an hour.
you're just inexperienced it's okay get hit by a couple of cars run into a few trees you'll figure it out or you'll die trying...
Noobs
Three weeks ago I was on my one will crossing a crosswalk when I had the right away. Cars drove into me even though I had the right away. Was a hit and run.
But I had all my pads on and my motorcycle helmet on. So was able to stay out of the hospital.
But if you were me without the armor you probably not be having this conversation.
"...it's not going to be able to balance you at 15MPH..."
"...there are a lot of stories of people...who have injured themselves for life..."
"...the only thing they can do for you is give you a push-back (that is ignored by many riders)..."
The ONLY thing that it can do? Really? Software can't limit the speed and continue to be able to manage to balance you?
Sounds like a deadly design flaw to me.
get to the fuggin point dude
Jack Ol'Bean but then I would have to stop talking! 😝