Well done dave, it's likely never been serviced for donkeys years. That molly grease did the trick :-D A nail varnish brush might be worth keeping for molly application. Or a water colour brush for precise application.
It was more than the Molly coat Grease. That was part of it but the real problem was the sticky film left on the upper drum from the disintegrating head cleaning roller. That caused the tape to stick and as it was being laced it would stick and cause the mechanism to jam that's why the Head drum stops spinning as well as it was trying to lace up the tape. the mode switch most certainly did need cleaning because well it's 30 years old there's going to be oxidation so that was a must do on the machine but the main problem on this besides the guides being a little dry was the tension caused by the tape sticking to the drum when it was threading up the rest of it was just running the machine getting all the bearings and so forth freed up like to take up spool that was kind of sticky initially we'll just running it for a bit corrected that that would have been the pendulum gear probably not flipping back and forth properly initially when it was first fired up but I've run the tape through there about 10 times before putting it all together maybe 15 times I run that tape back and forth in multiple tapes and it's working fine now
Thank you very much for your useful videos. I have a Sony EV-S55 Hi8 unit (Japanese) I lost the remote control and I can't get the information on the screen. Is there any way to get it from the unit? Thanks
classic tape mech used in the ccd-f and ccd-v series , the tape guide posts are 99% likely loose and need to be adjusted/tightened with their setscrews
No they're not loose I checked it. Just because you didn't see it on camera doesn't mean I didn't do it there was a lot cut out from this video for time I didn't want to make an hour-long video and have a certain person bitching and complaining the video was too long and drawn out so there was quite a bit cut out. Only what was essential to see what was done was left in place.
This is a Hail Mary; but I recently got scammed into buying a Fisher CR-W568. Neither of the tape deck slots actually play. I hear no movement or sound when I turn it on, and the only hint I get that it’s actually alive is a small red under the “-10” on the right side of the machine. And after just checking, that light now no longer turns on. Do you, or ANYONE else in the comments, have any idea what I can do? Who I can send it to to repair, can I repair it myself?
Hello! I stumbled upon your chanel trying to find a fix for my Philips VR 620 player. When I insert a tape into the player it goes in but doesn't wind up and gets stuck with the eject button not working. I found this player in my grandma's garage so it is pretty old. Is there any chance that it can be repaired?
I'm sure it can be first thing to check on something that old would be the belts and check the mode switch as if it's been sitting around for a while the mode switch itself is going to need to be cleaned and probably the loading belts and so forth are going to need to be replaced
Thanks so much for your helpful videos. I have a Sony EVC100 Hi8 unit that seems to not be taking up the tape from the pinch roller and causes the tape to go nowhere till it jams. I can't for the life of me find anything visible wrong. It fully threads in and out with no problems. I cleaned the mode swith with Dioxit and that didn't help. I am now looking at the idler gear that goes back and forth between the supply and take-up reels. It moves back and forth but seems to have some resistance. When I turn the play motor by hand, I don't see the idler gear fully engaging with the take-up reel teeth. Should this gear move back and forth very easily or have a little resistance to it. I would appreciate any assistance. Thanks... Bruce KC3JS
Yes the pendulum gear should move freely and engage with both take up and supply depending on which way the capstan motor is turning. The idler pulley do get gummed up.
@@12voltvids Thank you so much- It works now. I am so excited! Thanks again and I hope we can talk some time on America link. PS- You want to get a hotspot for DMR. I love my Pi-star. 73's...Bruce
Yes most of the cameras of that area use that mechanism. Same mechanism in the ccdv5000 as well as the evw 300 professional High eight used exactly the same mechanism as in this machine but unfortunately both of those use surface mounted caps that pissed all over the board and ruined them
oh another thing that is likely loose is the pin that connects the tapeguide sled to the arm that slides it , if the pin slides out the arm falls of the sled and could ruin your loading mechanism
yes they've come loose on them in the past I checked this one and it wasn't loose I didn't show it on camera but I did give it a push with the dental pick and it didn't move.
It is unusual to pull the tape from the take up spool during loading, VHS does the opposite (and for good reasons): if the 8mm cassette is re-wounded with an external tape rewinder, there might not be enough tape on the take-up spool.
well first of all an 8 mm machine will advance the tape forward if the leader is exposed and whine some tape on before it attempts to load but any proper 8mm rewinder like the $500 Sony 8 ml rewinder you will notice that what happens on that is when the tape gets to the end it forwards it a bit before ejecting it. So that's not a concern. I gained 8 mm decks for a little better engineered than running a mill VHS were any manufacturer could do anything that they wanted Sony had pretty good control on what manufactures the license to make 8 mm decks could do. They couldn't just do whatever they wanted because Sony invented the 8mm format by themself with no other input. Mini DV on the other hand was a collaboration with JVC and Sony. This is why we ended up with an LP speed on mini DV. It wasn't that Sony wanted it Sony didn't want it because they knew there would be compatibility problems with playback but JVC because they were allowed input were allowed to drop the speed and create all the headaches for everybody down the road when their camera broke and they bought a new one and found that they could not play any of their tapes that were recorded in the lp speed. Sony had a big warning on page two of every owner's manual about interchangeability for tapes recorded in LP and the recommendation not to use it. So why did Sony add lp? well because the competition had it and if a customer saw that a JVC camera would put 90 minutes on a tape and a Sony would only put 60 that was a reason to buy the competition not that it was better it just longer recording time so when JVC did it so he had to answer and do it as well knowing damn well that people were going to have problems down the road and problems they do have. I get tapes to transfer all the time that are recorded in LP I have four mini DV decks and none of them will play the vast majority of tapes recorded in LP. Some tapes might play fine for a bit but they usually glitch out every time they start and stop the tape like to change shots picture breaks up are they pixelate and then people are mad basically telling me that my equipment is crap. I pull out an old manual that I've got from one of my old Sony cameras and I've got the part highlighted about not using LP and point out that they recorded in the lp speed and basically it's too bad so sad that's the way it is no one's going to be able to play it. That problem didn't happen on 8 mm however because Sony designed it and they controlled what every manufacturer that was licensed to produce 8 mm could do.
I guess that at the time they made these they must have thought that spending the money on developing and producing a head cleaning mechanism was worthwhile. Maybe they even engineered in the fact that the sponge would deteriorate over time as a built in after warranty EOL device. That is a joke but sometimes I wonder if it is a fact. Still, it's pretty easy to fix if it is a built in failure point. Like you said, no surface mount electrolytic caps so no track destruction and all seems electronically sound. Enjoyed watching this one.
Initially they did work. Remember these machines were never designed to be still in service 30 years later. Most were expected that they would have been retired from service in 8 to 10 years tops.
For those of your viewers who may not be aware of the lower drum cleaning procedure, a special warning to never use QTips to contact or clean the heads, might be helpful. Thanks
As soon as I saw the drum stall I said there's sticky shit on it n I've seen this happen hundreds of times as for those stupid alleged "head cleaning" foam rollers I removed them on every machine I saw back when they were close to new as we had machines coming back weekly with dirty heads, after it was removed problem solved.
that Sony solved that problem with machines like the EVS 5000 EVS 7000 they took away the foam roller and it's actually more like a brush that spins like a plastic toothbrush that spins up against the head and it doesn't contaminate the heads like those ones plus when it spins all the crap that comes off the head gets thrown around on the outside of the machine you can actually see it or it flies off the the end of the brush basically it's around brush and deposits on the back of the machine
That's right it can kill you in large quantities. just ask the woman that chugged a couple of gallons in 20 minutes to try to win a radio station contest oh wait you can't ask her she's dead.
it's a very problematic Cassette deck, one of the brackets is gone from the point where it loads the cassette and I have to pry the plastic gears from behind to put it in its place, the same deck has my V800 and V6000 Pro camera, I hate it so much! I'd rather change capacitors than build a deck 😡😤
You are meticulous in your troubleshooting. Excellent work!
Thanks to your guide I can finally share my childhood memories with my family
I like how those video8/hi8 decks are just miniaturized VCR mechanisms
You have the patience of a saint,lol. Who would have thought a cleaning roller would turn into a gummy roller?
Well done dave, it's likely never been serviced for donkeys years.
That molly grease did the trick :-D
A nail varnish brush might be worth keeping for molly application.
Or a water colour brush for precise application.
It was more than the Molly coat Grease. That was part of it but the real problem was the sticky film left on the upper drum from the disintegrating head cleaning roller. That caused the tape to stick and as it was being laced it would stick and cause the mechanism to jam that's why the Head drum stops spinning as well as it was trying to lace up the tape. the mode switch most certainly did need cleaning because well it's 30 years old there's going to be oxidation so that was a must do on the machine but the main problem on this besides the guides being a little dry was the tension caused by the tape sticking to the drum when it was threading up the rest of it was just running the machine getting all the bearings and so forth freed up like to take up spool that was kind of sticky initially we'll just running it for a bit corrected that that would have been the pendulum gear probably not flipping back and forth properly initially when it was first fired up but I've run the tape through there about 10 times before putting it all together maybe 15 times I run that tape back and forth in multiple tapes and it's working fine now
Another good video!
Excellent job, good knowledge from you!, congratulaciones
Excellent work
Is that cleaner foam found on the Hi8 camcorders as well? If so another item to remove from my unit.
Thank you very much for your useful videos. I have a Sony EV-S55 Hi8 unit (Japanese) I lost the remote control and I can't get the information on the screen. Is there any way to get it from the unit? Thanks
Looks so easy to work on. Wish I can get hold of similar...camcorders so difficult.
classic tape mech used in the ccd-f and ccd-v series , the tape guide posts are 99% likely loose and need to be adjusted/tightened with their setscrews
No they're not loose I checked it. Just because you didn't see it on camera doesn't mean I didn't do it there was a lot cut out from this video for time I didn't want to make an hour-long video and have a certain person bitching and complaining the video was too long and drawn out so there was quite a bit cut out. Only what was essential to see what was done was left in place.
This is a Hail Mary; but I recently got scammed into buying a Fisher CR-W568. Neither of the tape deck slots actually play. I hear no movement or sound when I turn it on, and the only hint I get that it’s actually alive is a small red under the “-10” on the right side of the machine. And after just checking, that light now no longer turns on. Do you, or ANYONE else in the comments, have any idea what I can do? Who I can send it to to repair, can I repair it myself?
Where can I get an 8 mm video? There is no 8 mm video in my country, Iraq
Hello! I stumbled upon your chanel trying to find a fix for my Philips VR 620 player. When I insert a tape into the player it goes in but doesn't wind up and gets stuck with the eject button not working. I found this player in my grandma's garage so it is pretty old. Is there any chance that it can be repaired?
I'm sure it can be first thing to check on something that old would be the belts and check the mode switch as if it's been sitting around for a while the mode switch itself is going to need to be cleaned and probably the loading belts and so forth are going to need to be replaced
@@12voltvids thanks!
Thanks so much for your helpful videos. I have a Sony EVC100 Hi8 unit that seems to not be taking up the tape from the pinch roller and causes the tape to go nowhere till it jams. I can't for the life of me find anything visible wrong. It fully threads in and out with no problems. I cleaned the mode swith with Dioxit and that didn't help. I am now looking at the idler gear that goes back and forth between the supply and take-up reels. It moves back and forth but seems to have some resistance. When I turn the play motor by hand, I don't see the idler gear fully engaging with the take-up reel teeth. Should this gear move back and forth very easily or have a little resistance to it. I would appreciate any assistance. Thanks... Bruce KC3JS
Yes the pendulum gear should move freely and engage with both take up and supply depending on which way the capstan motor is turning. The idler pulley do get gummed up.
@@12voltvids Thank you so much- It works now. I am so excited! Thanks again and I hope we can talk some time on America link. PS- You want to get a hotspot for DMR. I love my Pi-star. 73's...Bruce
@@brucekempf4648 I haven't been able to get anything on my DMR rig yet. Mostly use c4 now.
Looks like the same mech as my GV-8 and GV-9 Video walkmans from 1989
Yes most of the cameras of that area use that mechanism. Same mechanism in the ccdv5000 as well as the evw 300 professional High eight used exactly the same mechanism as in this machine but unfortunately both of those use surface mounted caps that pissed all over the board and ruined them
oh another thing that is likely loose is the pin that connects the tapeguide sled to the arm that slides it , if the pin slides out the arm falls of the sled and could ruin your loading mechanism
yes they've come loose on them in the past I checked this one and it wasn't loose I didn't show it on camera but I did give it a push with the dental pick and it didn't move.
Nice
It is unusual to pull the tape from the take up spool during loading, VHS does the opposite (and for good reasons): if the 8mm cassette is re-wounded with an external tape rewinder, there might not be enough tape on the take-up spool.
well first of all an 8 mm machine will advance the tape forward if the leader is exposed and whine some tape on before it attempts to load but any proper 8mm rewinder like the $500 Sony 8 ml rewinder you will notice that what happens on that is when the tape gets to the end it forwards it a bit before ejecting it. So that's not a concern. I gained 8 mm decks for a little better engineered than running a mill VHS were any manufacturer could do anything that they wanted Sony had pretty good control on what manufactures the license to make 8 mm decks could do. They couldn't just do whatever they wanted because Sony invented the 8mm format by themself with no other input. Mini DV on the other hand was a collaboration with JVC and Sony. This is why we ended up with an LP speed on mini DV. It wasn't that Sony wanted it Sony didn't want it because they knew there would be compatibility problems with playback but JVC because they were allowed input were allowed to drop the speed and create all the headaches for everybody down the road when their camera broke and they bought a new one and found that they could not play any of their tapes that were recorded in the lp speed. Sony had a big warning on page two of every owner's manual about interchangeability for tapes recorded in LP and the recommendation not to use it. So why did Sony add lp? well because the competition had it and if a customer saw that a JVC camera would put 90 minutes on a tape and a Sony would only put 60 that was a reason to buy the competition not that it was better it just longer recording time so when JVC did it so he had to answer and do it as well knowing damn well that people were going to have problems down the road and problems they do have. I get tapes to transfer all the time that are recorded in LP I have four mini DV decks and none of them will play the vast majority of tapes recorded in LP. Some tapes might play fine for a bit but they usually glitch out every time they start and stop the tape like to change shots picture breaks up are they pixelate and then people are mad basically telling me that my equipment is crap. I pull out an old manual that I've got from one of my old Sony cameras and I've got the part highlighted about not using LP and point out that they recorded in the lp speed and basically it's too bad so sad that's the way it is no one's going to be able to play it. That problem didn't happen on 8 mm however because Sony designed it and they controlled what every manufacturer that was licensed to produce 8 mm could do.
Yes I noticed all the blue tantalum caps. if only ...
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Guinea pig is always chewing my wires
Solution get rid of the big tailless rat.
I guess that at the time they made these they must have thought that spending the money on developing and producing a head cleaning mechanism was worthwhile. Maybe they even engineered in the fact that the sponge would deteriorate over time as a built in after warranty EOL device. That is a joke but sometimes I wonder if it is a fact. Still, it's pretty easy to fix if it is a built in failure point. Like you said, no surface mount electrolytic caps so no track destruction and all seems electronically sound. Enjoyed watching this one.
Initially they did work. Remember these machines were never designed to be still in service 30 years later. Most were expected that they would have been retired from service in 8 to 10 years tops.
For those of your viewers who may not be aware of the lower drum cleaning procedure, a special warning to never use QTips to contact or clean the heads, might be helpful. Thanks
Never use qtip around the video heads. Its ok for lower drum but you have to rotate the heads away from area you are cleaning.
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As soon as I saw the drum stall I said there's sticky shit on it n I've seen this happen hundreds of times as for those stupid alleged "head cleaning" foam rollers I removed them on every machine I saw back when they were close to new as we had machines coming back weekly with dirty heads, after it was removed problem solved.
that Sony solved that problem with machines like the EVS 5000 EVS 7000 they took away the foam roller and it's actually more like a brush that spins like a plastic toothbrush that spins up against the head and it doesn't contaminate the heads like those ones plus when it spins all the crap that comes off the head gets thrown around on the outside of the machine you can actually see it or it flies off the the end of the brush basically it's around brush and deposits on the back of the machine
Be careful of using that dihydrogen momoxide. It can be nasty! ;-)
That's right it can kill you in large quantities. just ask the woman that chugged a couple of gallons in 20 minutes to try to win a radio station contest oh wait you can't ask her she's dead.
Hlo sir
Dave, I could not copy your email address for a quote
It's in the about tab. I don't put it here as i get enough spam
it's a very problematic Cassette deck, one of the brackets is gone from the point where it loads the cassette and I have to pry the plastic gears from behind to put it in its place, the same deck has my V800 and V6000 Pro camera, I hate it so much! I'd rather change capacitors than build a deck 😡😤
I hate everything that involved recording with rust.
Hey i trying to contact you i am stuck with my fisher fvh vcr its not accept tape or need realignment