The Rise And Fall Of Pac-Man: What Happened To The Pac-Man Series Ft. Tim Crist (Totally Obsessed)

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
  • The Pac-Man series is one of my favorite series out there. Being one of if not THE MOST iconic game turned Pac-Man into a franchise. There were many great games. The Pac-Man World Trilogy, Championship Edition, and even the Mario/Pac-Man crossover games being the Mario Kart: Arcade GP series, remain stellar games. Pac-Man was almost on the same level as Mario. Now, the series is designated only to merchandise and stale games similar to the original. How did this happen? This documentary covers the start of the Pac-Man series, the rise, and then the fall. Joining us is Tim "Shoebox" Crist who is famous for his appearance on Totally Obsessed. We have determined what caused the decline, as well as how the series can get back up.
    Make sure to check out Tim's music group The Worm Quartet! Pac-Man Is 40 And So Should You is a modern take on a classic song. Special thanks to KNK Media for the amazing art seen here!

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  • @wormquartet
    @wormquartet 2 роки тому +171

    Hi, I'm the Pac-Man guy of moderate legend. I've tried to say stuff here, but every time I've tried to post a comment, UA-cam has immediately deleted it. Let's see if this iteration of my attempted comment actually makes it into existence!
    Anyway, thanks for all the kind comments! And thanks to Demeech for coaxing me into rambling about Pac-Man in front of a camera, which I would of course never do otherwise!
    May fruit appear before thee,
    Tim =ShoEboX= Crist

    • @wormquartet
      @wormquartet 2 роки тому +11

      Oo, that comment actually stuck! Neat! Anyway, let's try a link this time and see if I'm allowed to post those! The song at the end of this thing (which some of you have said very nice things about, thanks!) is actually from an EP I put out (under the name Worm Quartet) earlier this year called "The Pac-Man EP." It's available for streaming in all the typical streamholes (It's listed as "The Pac-Man Assemblage Assortment Thingy of Selections That Plays Extendedly" in most streaming services because the powers-that-be wouldn't let me call it an EP for what I'm sure are very logical and reasonable reasons) and also available on CD, cassette, and 180G Pac-Man-colored vinyl at wormquartet.bandcamp.com/album/the-pac-man-ep

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому +10

      Yes! The one and only Tim beat UA-cam! Great to have you for the video, as nobody is more qualified than you to talk about Pac-Man! Really enjoyed the discussions with you as well!

    • @Giffsen
      @Giffsen 2 роки тому +2

      Just passing by to say you're awesome man! Keep rocking! :)

    • @Jonathanp909
      @Jonathanp909 2 роки тому

      wee-wee we

    • @wormquartet
      @wormquartet 2 роки тому

      @@Jonathanp909 Quite.

  • @SoshiTheYoshi
    @SoshiTheYoshi 2 роки тому +142

    There’s been many ups and downs, but the most important thing is that there’s still Pac-dots in the maze

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 2 роки тому +1

      *Half-hundredth*
      Lest we forget the ending of Pac-Man World 2 where the cutest dog imaginable ate a bunch of power pellets inside his cute little dog bowl so he could give the four ghosts (especially Pinky for being a yandere… by throwing snowballs at Pac-Man which is a common way for annoying young women to spite their ex-boyfriends for forgetting their dates and giving them gaslighting apologies at the end, but Pac-Man was still at his best, even for him, in Pac-Man World 1, 2 & Rally for home consoles) the karma they deserve (which is to die in his digestion… oh wait, they are eternal! Then never mind)!

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому +12

      Unless it's Pac N Pal

    • @SoshiTheYoshi
      @SoshiTheYoshi 2 роки тому +1

      @@Demeech God dang it, Miru…

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 2 роки тому +1

      @@Demeech Am I the only one who thinks teen sitcoms have low (albeit overrated) standards, especially the ones by Nickelodeon (Nickcoms, re: Dan “Get in the Van” Schneider’s Bakery) standards because they have more of a canned light track (and negative teen stereotypes) than actual substance?!)
      The Suite Life on Deck starring Debby Ryan as a misandrist is no exception, but like Insatiable, the future Pac-Man movie ought to do her justice as Miru from P&P with no change in her design (except for maybe a body with thick thighs, a big round booty and maybe a tube top and miniskirt).

    • @robotwrench
      @robotwrench 2 роки тому

      I feel like you comment on every pac man video like ever

  • @desh206
    @desh206 2 роки тому +60

    Namco should really make pacman word 4 so that the series can comeback in a great way,just like crash bandicoot came back whit the insane trilogy,team racing nitro field and crash 4 is't about time

    • @CosmicSponge2004
      @CosmicSponge2004 2 роки тому +4

      While I don't want World 4, I'd like to see them do more with the story & lore beyond the gameplay of The Maze Games.
      I want a Pac-Man Action RPG!

    • @jpuc5568
      @jpuc5568 2 роки тому +4

      At the end of the day it doesn't have to be a world 4 to have the same type of ganeplay.

    • @SomeCraftive-Art
      @SomeCraftive-Art 2 роки тому +1

      @@CosmicSponge2004 hell yeah!

    • @Shane42424
      @Shane42424 2 роки тому +1

      yep

    • @conradojavier7547
      @conradojavier7547 2 роки тому +1

      N.B. should hire Indy Developers to Remaster The World Trilogy.

  • @Mattia0113
    @Mattia0113 2 роки тому +4

    My gosh mant things are finally changing!!! Happy Re-Pac day

  • @ZylonBane
    @ZylonBane 2 роки тому +53

    It's killing me that whoever was playing Super Pac-Man in those videos NEVER used turbo speed in super mode.

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому +14

      I was lol. It's difficult to play the game with a nunchuck or D-Pad. A joystick is the way to go.

    • @SlappyHappy2000
      @SlappyHappy2000 2 роки тому +8

      Wait, what???
      It was only from this comment that I learned that you can press a button to make super pacman go faster!
      Thank you, good sir!

    • @becdoesyoutube
      @becdoesyoutube 2 роки тому +4

      Well the thing is, the turbo speed was nerfed when Super Pac-Man was brought over to the states.

    • @DeskoDev
      @DeskoDev 2 роки тому +1

      @@becdoesyoutube _Severely._

    • @becdoesyoutube
      @becdoesyoutube 2 роки тому

      @@DeskoDev Too right

  • @GoldenDryBonesandStu
    @GoldenDryBonesandStu 2 роки тому +16

    The wait was definitely worth it! I’ll admit that it was interesting seeing the special guest, but the inclusion makes it one of the best segments of the video.
    I always did see 2000s Pac-Man as an interesting time for him, so I fully hope that he can recover, and get back on the spot soon.

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому

      Tim is great. Definitely a wonderful guest to have and he's more than welcome on the channel anytime.

  • @IshaBoiAlex
    @IshaBoiAlex 2 роки тому +23

    You madman, you actually got Tim Crist on for this. Great video though, really worth the wait.
    As for what I would do to save Pac-Man, maybe a collection of all 3 Pac-Man World games with enhanced visuals and quality of life improvements, like Super Mario 3D All-Stars but done right. Maybe even Pac-Man World 4 or a Pac-Man World reboot or reimagining. Basically I want Namco to do something that isn’t rereleasing old arcade titles or putting spins on them, although Pac-Man Museum + is looking great and I might actually pick it up when it comes out.

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому +4

      Pac-Man Musuem Plus is definitely great despite it being a collection of classic games. That's because most games have never been re-released.
      Tim is great! He loves the series and has some great ideas. He's more than welcome to be on the channel anytime.

    • @IshaBoiAlex
      @IshaBoiAlex 2 роки тому

      @@Demeech btw, I’m really happy you brought up Pac-Man World Rally. It was known simply as Pac-Man Rally to me cause I live in the UK. It was one of my favourite childhood games on the PS2 and it’s a shame barely anybody talks about it.

  • @SashaSkarmory
    @SashaSkarmory 2 роки тому +4

    Coming back to this after Pac-Man World Re-Pac was revealed is surreal

  • @knux333jw
    @knux333jw 2 роки тому +19

    I'm a pretty causal fan of Pac-Man. I mostly know him from the Plug & Play, as well as messing around with old Pac-Man/Ms. Pac-Man arcades around our area. But it's interesting how much depth there is to his history.
    It eerily reminds me a lot of Sonic... Between being too experimental at times, neglecting its 3D series, pushing out a reboot no one wanted, and overrelying on nostalgia.
    This was a good watch! 👍

    • @Forzamon42069
      @Forzamon42069 2 роки тому

      "overrelying on nostalgia"
      Might as well throw Mario into the mix

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 2 роки тому

      But even that reboot does have its fans and can generate some really memorable moments.

  • @megamix5403
    @megamix5403 2 роки тому +32

    I hope one day, Bandai Namco makes a HD remake of Pac Man World or something like an open world Pac Man game.

    • @soulubilityofficial6635
      @soulubilityofficial6635 2 роки тому +3

      This aged well

    • @bland9876
      @bland9876 2 роки тому

      @SkarmoryVEVO as of this comment they are still in development and I'm unsure of how i think because there looks like kart raising in it for some reason.

    • @TheDr502
      @TheDr502 Рік тому

      Already done. It's called Pac-Man World Re-Pac. I hope they make remakes of the second 2 games as well. I'd appreciate it!

  • @happy_party_train
    @happy_party_train 2 роки тому +8

    This was well worth the wait, Demeech! Definitely one of my new favorites from your channel.

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you! What were prior favorites?

    • @happy_party_train
      @happy_party_train 2 роки тому +1

      @@Demeech Mariokart Origins is still my favorite series you've done!

  • @mrgreenmario64
    @mrgreenmario64 2 роки тому +4

    I'm really glad that instead of rushing this video out, you instead took your time with it to make it extra special. Definitely worth the wait! Keep up the amazing work!

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому +2

      Who do you think I am??? Nintendo? 😂 Thank you so much, means a lot!

  • @galaxykirby18
    @galaxykirby18 2 роки тому +8

    I really enjoyed this video! Great job! I love how in depth you went about the history of Pac-Man. Learned a lot I didn't know about him.

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 2 роки тому +1

      m.ua-cam.com/video/s7o4_QoJisk/v-deo.html brought us here to this newborn video. If one were to make a list of best/important UA-cam channels, this should definitely land on the list, let alone the top 10s, maybe even the top 5s!

  • @stoopidmansidiot
    @stoopidmansidiot 2 роки тому +5

    this was a very deep and interesting analysis
    also dang, that song number at the end had me vibing

  • @MadSociety-uy6zg
    @MadSociety-uy6zg 2 роки тому +9

    I love how honest you are in your videos you don't act a blind fanboy love how you call Nintendo and other companies out don't see many people doing this. It's like people are scared of these videogame companies especially seems like they're afraid to say anything bad about nintendo.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 2 роки тому

      I feel like he’s a little TOO negative.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 2 роки тому

      I’m personally just afraid that if there too many people yelling and screaming about the companies that people won’t be fans anymore. There HAS to be a way for people to be angry and still be fans.

    • @MadSociety-uy6zg
      @MadSociety-uy6zg 2 роки тому

      @@benmalsky9834 really basically no criticisms seriously this is the kind of shit I hate everyone cants stand someone else's opinions and definitely people can't handle valid criticism I don't want Demeech to change cause of a small vocal minority of people can stand his criticisms like I love his Mario strikers battle league video he made a lot of valid criticisms in that video and people got butt everyone shouldn't have an opinion and shouldn't complain these dumbass excuses is why companies do what they do that's why I won't buy the recent Mario sports games I don't support the stupid fix it later approach.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 2 роки тому

      @@MadSociety-uy6zg I’m sorry man. I just want my favorite games to remain beloved.

    • @benmalsky9834
      @benmalsky9834 2 роки тому

      @@MadSociety-uy6zg Are you sure that criticizing doesn’t mean the whole fanbase collapsing and people wanting nothing to do with it? That’s what I’m afraid of.

  • @devinloew7681
    @devinloew7681 2 роки тому +5

    Pac-Man World 1 and 2 we're huge parts of my childhood

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому +1

      Just Pac-Man in general was for me.

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 2 роки тому +1

      @@Demeech Me too, from 1980-2014

  • @Bubbabyte99
    @Bubbabyte99 2 роки тому +1

    Small world! I'm also 22 and was introduced to the original PAC-MAN via that same Jakks Pacific plug & play unit! It just goes to show how popular those things were back in the early 2000s when we were little.

  • @elcancel2314
    @elcancel2314 2 роки тому +3

    Great job and it was well worth the wait!

  • @thenumenfrompacland9491
    @thenumenfrompacland9491 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent video man!! You said it all well, and presented it in a fun manner. very well done!

  • @timothydarden6133
    @timothydarden6133 2 роки тому +7

    Great video, Demeech! And happy birthday!
    We all had bad first impressions about Tim Crist, and assumed he takes Pac-Man Fever to unhealthy levels, but he actually seems like a neat guy, and was probably just acting totally obsessed for the show's ratings and such.
    And as someone who has a similar liking toward Tamagotchi (I'm surprised the Pac-Man Tamagotchi was never mentioned in this video), I mostly blame Bandai for Pac-Man's demotion. They instigated what would be a merger with Namco and thus are responsible for not maximizing Pac-Man's potential, instead pouring that kind of budget into their precious Shonen Jump licenses. Tamagotchi and, to an extent, Digimon have dealt with hindered opportunities for world-building and global appreciation since their inception, and the Namco merger just added sufferers of Bandai's high pedestal to licenses.

    • @Hiei2k7
      @Hiei2k7 2 роки тому +1

      Don't worry, Tim will probably poke his head in here soon enough. He linked this one to me through FB.

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому +5

      I was gonna bring up the Pac-Man Tamagotchi released last year. That's the only cool merchandise released within the past few years.
      Tim is great. He exaggerated his obsession for the show, but some things were actually true.

    • @wormquartet
      @wormquartet 2 роки тому +1

      @@Demeech D'awwww, thanks.
      And what about the S.H.Figuarts multi-piece figure thing? And the playable Tiny Arcade thing with the light-up marquee? I guess that one was a while ago by now...

    • @timothydarden6133
      @timothydarden6133 2 роки тому +1

      @@autobotstarscream765 Hopefully not ever. Pac-Man's stepped back into the limelight with World Re-Pac. Let us enjoy our moment of glory.
      If you want a direct Shōnen Jump x Bandai Namco crossover so badly, preorder Choppertchi (One Piece x Tamagotchi Nano) or the One Piece TamaSma Card for Tamagotchi Smart. It'll convince Bandai Namco to invest even more on turning Tamagotchi into the next Lego and completely ignore doing anything related to the 2009-2015 anime, be it a complete English dub or a revival with Tamagotchis from the M!X era and onward.

  • @megamix5403
    @megamix5403 2 роки тому +4

    Damn, VH1 really did Tim Crist (and everyone else on that show like the Ninja Turtle girl) dirty.

  • @benmalsky9834
    @benmalsky9834 2 роки тому +1

    Hey, I’m from nearly a year into the future and Pac-Man World just got an HD remake! And it’s awesome!!!

  • @ThatGuyLegend
    @ThatGuyLegend 2 роки тому +3

    This might be one of your if not best videos to date

  • @George_ib
    @George_ib 2 роки тому +3

    Pac man world 2 was so fun as a kid!

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 2 роки тому +3

      It’s *so* fun for kids and adults alike!

  • @undergroundbuzz
    @undergroundbuzz 2 роки тому +1

    Well made video mate looking forward to finish watching this tomorrow!

  • @antonretro
    @antonretro 2 роки тому +4

    Happy Birthday, Demeech! Great Video and it would be cool to see a Pac-Man World Collection, with enhanced visuals!

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 2 роки тому +3

      Honestly, though, I do think that even 2 decades later, the graphics, soundtracks, characters (especially their designs and Pac-Man’s abilities) and platforming hold up absolutely nicely, but yes, just imagine if there were a Pac-Man World series with the treatment of the N-Sane and Reignited trilogies!

  • @i_unfriend_u
    @i_unfriend_u Рік тому

    I grew up in the late 90s-early 00s, so I wasn't there for Pac-Man's original rise to fame. However, Pac-Man World 2 will always be one of my favorite games. It holds up really well 20 years later and the arcade function is what exposed me to other classic Pac-Man games. One of the best games in the entire series in my opinion.

  • @msgameandcake628
    @msgameandcake628 2 роки тому +2

    Pac-Man has always been pretty important to me. My first gaming system was the Sega Genesis, and my first games consisted of the first 3 Sonic games, Jungle Book, and none other than Ms. Pac-Man, easily the best form of classic arcade Pac-Man I've ever played. The relevance of the series kept going however, when I made a Let's Play of Pac-Man World 3 back in 2012 on my old channel of mrgameandpie. From 2011-2016, I made over 60 complete LP series, but the only one that ever got notably popular was Pac-Man World 3. If you've ever heard the saying "Pac-Man World 3 is the Sonic 06 of the Pac-Man series" that was me who originally coined the phrasing, though it doesn't quite have the meaning you might expect. I always meant this as more of a thematic equivalent than anything else. Both games went for a darker, more realistic tone, both visually and narratively, a heavier emphasis on story, a greater degree of combat compared to both series typical platforming-centric gameplay. Also I happened to run into a relatively high number of glitches on that LP playthrough. I don't like World 3 as much as World 2, not by a long shot, but it is by no means the abyss of quality one might expect from someone saying "The Sonic 06 of the Pac-Man series."

  • @berkeleycreager6157
    @berkeleycreager6157 2 роки тому +8

    I think the best course of action would be PacMan World 4. Without a doubt. Maybe a PacMan MetroidVania? I think he has so much potential, and Namco is definitely slept on him

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому +3

      A 3D platformer would be great.

    • @victoriam.8652
      @victoriam.8652 2 роки тому

      @@Demeech what pac man was humanized?

  • @EpicCamraMan
    @EpicCamraMan 2 роки тому +3

    I’d love a remaster of Pac-Man world 2, it’s a childhood game for me and very nostalgic

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 2 роки тому +1

      Starring Chomp-Chomp (in his PMW2 design like in the Pac-Man World 1 remake), Professor Pac-Man, Pac-Ranger, Sue and maybe even her jukebox (or “poopbox” according to the ghosts that are also in their Pac-Man World 2 designs) as playable characters!

  • @LexVanguard2004
    @LexVanguard2004 2 роки тому +2

    Pac Man for me is a game I pick up every now and then for some arcade fun. Championship Edition 2 fills that spot nicely for me right now, I really enjoy the gameplay and visuals. Looking forward to Pac Man Museum Plus, I'm definitely getting that. Nice video, I can tell it took you a while to make and it paid off.
    (Speaking of merchandise at the beginning of the video, I have the Pac Man Board Game, it's actually great lol)

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому

      I have one of the board games. It's the matching game one.
      _"A rushed video is forever bad, but a delayed video can be good"_ ~ Miyamoto

    • @Forzamon42069
      @Forzamon42069 2 роки тому

      Same, but also throw in the NES Mario games and the NES Contra games.

  • @megamix5403
    @megamix5403 2 роки тому +8

    Also, it's funny how SFxT has the "modern" Pac-Man design but Smash has the classic one, and Smash is much more fondly remembered.

    • @KonaKonaKaabisteru
      @KonaKonaKaabisteru 2 роки тому +2

      I mean, that's before Bad Boxart Megaman...

    • @megamix5403
      @megamix5403 2 роки тому +1

      @@KonaKonaKaabisteru True, there's no denying that atrocity

    • @kfcnyancat
      @kfcnyancat 2 роки тому +1

      @@KonaKonaKaabisteru If everything else that happened to Mega Man at the time didn't happen at that time, BBMM in SFXT would've been hilarious.
      SFXT was a whole shit show, a lot of factors contributed to it not making a splash and BBMM was just one relatively small one.

    • @megamix5403
      @megamix5403 2 роки тому +1

      @@kfcnyancat Well, even the designers and people who worked on BBA Mega Man thought it was a bad idea. It's just Ono thought "Hey, let's just do this for shits and giggles." when really, it was one of those "too soon" type of jokes, especially with what was going on with Capcom at the time.

  • @nick-cepticon782
    @nick-cepticon782 2 роки тому +3

    It’s so true I see way more Ms Pac-Man arcade cabinets than the original

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому +3

      I'm assuming Pac-Man cabinets got coverted into Ms. Pac-Man cabinets.

  • @CJChilliYT
    @CJChilliYT 2 роки тому +1

    Another awesome video. Good work!

  • @wrightchance2864
    @wrightchance2864 2 роки тому

    Happy Belated Birthday. Great video!

  • @julianx2rl
    @julianx2rl 2 роки тому +2

    I really liked Pac-Man Tilt, and the comparison to Yoshi's Universal Gravitation is spot on.
    Although I'm gonna say, if the game was longer than 20 stages I probably wouldn't have finished it, trying to get the high score did get tiresome.
    But again, I did love it, and the length was just right

  • @ArcadeStriker
    @ArcadeStriker 2 роки тому +2

    Pac-Man World finally got a remake announced after so long :)

  • @kylespevak6781
    @kylespevak6781 2 роки тому

    When I was younger I had a GBA cart with various PacMan games on it. I loved it

  • @naaylealikhan8129
    @naaylealikhan8129 2 роки тому +1

    This was an amazing video, I love it, I also love all the hard work you put into this video. Btw Happy birthday. Also, I am subbing

  • @thisisasupersayin376
    @thisisasupersayin376 2 роки тому +5

    I got to play Super Pac-Man a few years ago on the ferry when my family went on a trip to Prince Edward Island. Can confirm I only half-knew what I was doing. I hope Pac Jr gets more rereleases in the future though, looks fun.
    By the way, if you want a fully-realised version of the "Various mazes in different time periods" idea, well you're in luck because MY childhood version of the yellow pizza-shape man, Pac-Man: Adventures In Time for the PC is exactly that! It's a great game, check it out if you can!

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому +1

      I gotta check that game out.
      Was it on a 60 in 1 cabinet? All the Pac-Man games are on it. That's where I mostly played Jr. Pac-Man.

    • @SuperMonkeyCherrim
      @SuperMonkeyCherrim 2 роки тому

      @@Demeech I just realized nobody ever responded to you, but Adventures in Time is actually a Windows 2000 game, and it was on a disc. I believe there are probably .iso files around of the game. Def check it out, it's really good.

  • @ritaandrunt5767
    @ritaandrunt5767 2 роки тому +1

    It's cool how this video contains an interview with the super obsessed Pac-Man fan
    as fellow fan of Pac-Man himself this video was well made and super informative
    Thank you for making this very informative video also I'll definitely be picking up museum plus and Pac-Man world re pac when I get the chance to I'm sure I'll enjoy them both and what they have to offer in terms of content when I eventually end up receiving them both
    I first played the original game on Namco Museum volume 1 on the original playstation and that was my first introduction to Pac-Man as a fan of the series I loved not only the original game but also games like Pac and Pal Super Pac-Man and of course Ms Pac-Man witch is probably one of my favorite Pac-Man sequels also I first played super Pac-Man and Pac and pal on a plug and play that also had Pac-Man plus on it and that was also another sequel that was loads of fun to play I also loved how while the design of the maze itself stayed the same its color changed from blue to green and the fruits that where normally seen in the center of the maze where replaced with soda cans and cocktails to this day I always found that amusing and it still occasionally makes me chuckle not sure why but it just does buy the way that plug and play that I mentioned earlier I still own it to this very day I recently played it again and it brought back some immense nostalgia of when I used to play it as a child during my youth
    And it's one of my favorite Pac-Man related collectibles

  • @vegetafan9922
    @vegetafan9922 2 роки тому +2

    The reason why Pac-Man 2: The New Adventures doesn't feel like a sequel is because it isn't. In Japan it was called Hello! Pac-Man. Calling it a sequel to the original Pac-Man would be like saying HEY, YOU! Pikachu! is the sequel to Pokémon Red and Blue.

  • @quillion3rdoption
    @quillion3rdoption 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for making this analysis on the state of the Pac-Man franchise. I got into Pac-Man thanks to Pac-Man World, and I loved playing both that game and the classics like the original, Ms. Pac-Man, and Arrangement. Personally, I think the best iteration of the maze formula is the PC game Pac-Man: Adventures in Time, which adds a 3D perspective, balances the jumping mechanic from Pac-Mania, and has a lot of different elements like gravity, hazards, and slopes depending on the maze.
    I think part of the reason why they ditched the universe of the Pac-Man World games is because much of the characters in that era were made by GCC, the company that made those "unofficial" sequels under Midway. They hold some rights to royalties for the characters they made, and because Namco doesn't want to pay them, they just decided to stop using them in the 2010s.
    This video explains the deal, at least surrounding Ms. Pac-Man: ua-cam.com/video/0LTmUaxXA0c/v-deo.html

    • @Forzamon42069
      @Forzamon42069 2 роки тому +1

      Then GCC sold the Ms. Pac-Man royalties to Atgames, who proceeded to get sued by Bandai Namco (rightfully so)

  • @PKSuperStar256
    @PKSuperStar256 2 роки тому +2

    I understand that people aren't fans of the designs for Party, but those are my favorite designs in the series since they look a lot like their original designs with some new stuff to them.

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 2 роки тому +1

      Good point, but I think the designs were all at their best in the non-GBA versions of Pac-Man World 2! 😂

    • @PKSuperStar256
      @PKSuperStar256 2 роки тому +2

      @@kieranstark7213, that's just classic Pac-Man's design.

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 2 роки тому

      Absolutely

  • @dagedar2717
    @dagedar2717 2 роки тому +1

    Honestly the only way people would remember Kinky is in that one video called Kinky the Always Blue Ghost, a Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer parody. That’s how I got introduced to Kinky.

  • @jackiexkh
    @jackiexkh 2 роки тому +2

    20:50 That is Pac-Man Championship Edition DX released in 2010, NOT Pac-Man Championship Edition.
    Despite what the name would have you think, CE and CEDX are two separate games with their own rules and mechanics that make them fundamentally different experiences.
    Iwatani had no involvement with DX.

  • @EBTheOriginalMaster
    @EBTheOriginalMaster 2 роки тому +1

    Happy Birthday Demeech! Hope you're having a good one.

  • @Nic_2751
    @Nic_2751 2 роки тому +2

    That was worth it all

  • @gamemaster2819
    @gamemaster2819 2 роки тому

    I remember how the kids classes at my church had video games to keep us occupied until our service started. They changed the selection every week, but every week, I would pray that Pac-Man World 2 was available to play

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому

      I don't think my church even had games.

  • @Nikit-i8z
    @Nikit-i8z 2 роки тому +2

    Why this video is so underrated ?

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 2 роки тому +1

      Because people just love to sleep on the Pac-Man World series (mainly PMW1 for the PS1, PMW2 for home consoles and PMWR) and the people that actually give a shit about it including me

  • @This-is-a-commentt
    @This-is-a-commentt 2 роки тому

    I acctually grew up with the ghostly adventures and I love it

    • @This-is-a-commentt
      @This-is-a-commentt Рік тому

      but oh my god was not flawed, I just rewatched it recently

  • @allenharper2928
    @allenharper2928 2 роки тому +3

    Fun fact- There was a mod for Pac-Man that changed Pac-Man into Popeye's head, complete with pipe, called "Pop-man".
    Edit- I saw it ONCE, in the breezeway of an old department store called "Harts".

  • @broken1394
    @broken1394 2 роки тому +1

    New Pac flick on the way - lot's of great games in the Series OG and Champs my favourites.
    Pac-Man will always remain.
    Viva Pac-Man.

  • @Devn___
    @Devn___ 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, But I gotta say, you can definitely improve at World Rally. Also I really like Tim's Red-Dead PAC-MAN idea, and I think I'd be able to expand on it a bit.

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому

      I definitely can 😂 I had to record A LOT of games on many different consoles.

  • @Nic_2751
    @Nic_2751 2 роки тому +4

    The hype is real

  • @danielfotheringhamproducti7368
    @danielfotheringhamproducti7368 2 роки тому +5

    If Bandai Namco ACTUALLY cared, they would have made even better games than Nintendo (Who STILL deserve to give DLC in Mario Party Superstars).

  • @wireddude1
    @wireddude1 2 роки тому

    I'm surprised that we spoke of Pac in Time, and how we wished it was a classic Maze game going through time, but failed to mention the game that actually did just that in the form of Pac-Man Adventures in Time.
    I highly recommend that game. It's a nostalgic childhood game for me!

  • @callumsparrow4379
    @callumsparrow4379 2 роки тому +1

    A Pac-Man World Trilogy remake needs to happen, especially considering the success of the Crash N.Sane and Spyro Reignited trilogies.

    • @conradojavier7547
      @conradojavier7547 2 роки тому +1

      But Bandai Namco should buy who ever owns the Rights to Ms. Pacman, & Pacman Junior to get that Remake.

  • @mrpiccionedivino5598
    @mrpiccionedivino5598 2 роки тому +1

    Obliviously you cant play all of the them,but no mention of ms pac man maze madness,the gba port of world 1 and 2,that pac man party crossover on the gamecube and ps2 and that pac roll game on the ds?

  • @wohao_gaster7434
    @wohao_gaster7434 2 роки тому +1

    Demeech: 21:40
    Me: **Had a DSi, A Wii and a sister who allowed me to play 3ds games at the age of 4**

  • @christosdoesthings
    @christosdoesthings 2 роки тому +2

    The pac is back

  • @SgtBilby
    @SgtBilby 2 роки тому

    Pac-Man Museum+ looks wicked dude

  • @greatestutuberhd
    @greatestutuberhd 2 роки тому +1

    The red and black Pac-Mania is almost definitely cause of a broken monitor and not a variation

  • @tvgamerstan6180
    @tvgamerstan6180 2 роки тому

    I want a pac-man world 4 or a new platformer, a pac-man world rally 2, and a pac-man party 2. I know most people aren't too fond of it, but I love that game. Most of the minigames are fun and patra is my favorite character of the pac-man franchise. She's adorable. I always just played it for the minigames & thank god all of them are already unlocked. Speaking of pac-man party, they did ms. pac-man dirty by not including her in that game. It really does sucks that namco doesn't really care all that much for this franchise anymore. At least the spin-off and platforming part of it. They'll just keep rehashing maze games over & over.

  • @blakeskit
    @blakeskit 2 роки тому +2

    This video is super epic

  • @SSKO2
    @SSKO2 2 роки тому +2

    Wait. It starts at 1Am? Dang I’m definitely gonna miss the premiere of this cuz *w o r k*
    Then again i can literally see this at any time

    • @jadstudiosofficial
      @jadstudiosofficial 2 роки тому

      Welcome to the club!
      Anyway! This vid is l33t!

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 2 роки тому

      As much as I agree with him that the PMW2 designs are the best of the best (though I do kinda like Pac-Man’s design/model in the 2010s Pac-Man games just as long as he didn’t devolve back into a simplistic yellow ball for nostalgia pandering’s sake) thing that Demeech, while not being a fan of the redesigns of the Pac-Man characters in the 2010s (especially the mid-2010s in Ghostly Adventures) compared to how he was in the early-mid 2000s (Pac-Man World) and some of the late 2010s (Super Smash Bros. 4 & 5), doesn’t treat his opinion on the redesign as a fact or turn it into bandwagoning!

    • @SSKO2
      @SSKO2 2 роки тому

      @@kieranstark7213 do you always have to type this long when i comment anything?

  • @jadstudiosofficial
    @jadstudiosofficial 2 роки тому +1

    Dang! I missed the premiere!

  • @NatetheNintendofan
    @NatetheNintendofan 2 роки тому

    It's here

  • @FindingsOfAnArmouredMind
    @FindingsOfAnArmouredMind 2 роки тому

    "What the Pac?" is my new reaction from now on.

  • @mjwright970
    @mjwright970 11 днів тому

    I know this is 2 yrs later but Strategy wiki literally has an entire full entry about Pac Mania. Also there are videos as showing all the levels, including the ending.

  • @QuantumSurge64
    @QuantumSurge64 2 роки тому +2

    "for those who were fan of the original, there was hope"
    _Nanoblock Pac-Man ad plays_

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому +1

      What is that?

    • @QuantumSurge64
      @QuantumSurge64 2 роки тому +1

      @@Demeech They're like Lego sets but made by Bluefin Brands. And the pieces are microscopic even next to regular Lego.

  • @mopper2811
    @mopper2811 2 роки тому +1

    maybe if they make another game with the introduction of another ghost or bring back sue or kinky etc, because I love the 4 OG ghosts but it's getting tiring seeing those 4 all the time

  • @Remie_REM_Sleep
    @Remie_REM_Sleep Рік тому

    Videos like this need more traction. Pac-Man already has very many original ideas on its own, so you'd think that the Pac-Man World games would take better advantage of that. Nope, they blatantly copy metal Mario and Sonics spin dash. Like, wtf Namco?! This is your biggest IP! It just seems lazy to me that they would treat such an iconic character this way.
    Despite Namco Bandai's questionable decisions, i still really enjoy the games and would personally love to see a continuation of the World series but with more original gameplay mechanics. That's what Pac-Man deserves honestly.

  • @Big-Mic7878
    @Big-Mic7878 2 роки тому

    It's nice to know that Pac-Man Museum+ Is a thing not to mention acknowledging the fact that Pac-Man arrangement was a thing (and still is) Who knows if it sell well (which I'm sure it would) due to complete curiosity of the series for newcomers if anything else
    we may be a step closer to the big pac-man project of our dreams Yep it's nothing but fruit 🍑 🍓 🍒bowl for the great yellow one from here!

  • @Awoken_YKW_Fan9001
    @Awoken_YKW_Fan9001 2 роки тому +1

    Aw yeah, Pac-Man, all *99 of them!*
    wait...

  • @NaraSherko
    @NaraSherko 2 роки тому

    It popped up again

  • @bland9876
    @bland9876 2 роки тому +1

    i always wondered if pac man jr was made on a modern tv (16:9) would it need the scowling?

  • @mrhobo4866
    @mrhobo4866 2 роки тому

    Great vid

  • @cian.o
    @cian.o 2 роки тому

    Before Mario my favorite gaming series was Pac-Man. Sad to see him fall like this.

  • @conradojavier7547
    @conradojavier7547 2 роки тому +2

    I wish Bandai Namco buys Atgames, so that thry can Legally Remaster Pac Man World Series.

    • @kieranstark7213
      @kieranstark7213 2 роки тому +1

      IS IT TOO MUCH FOR NAMCO TO ASK FOR?!?!?!?!?!

  • @keres9580
    @keres9580 2 роки тому +1

    well, a new project can be started

  • @puertoriconnect4611
    @puertoriconnect4611 2 роки тому

    Ms. Pac-Man was the perfect sequel. Took the original and expanded it.
    Same thing with Pac-Man arrangement. Totally underrated game. Expands on the formula even more. Great graphics, super fun, and really satisfying to play.
    I do love Super Pac-Man as well. It would’ve been easy for Namco try to do the same game again but they went for something totally different. Something about Pac-Mania was always kinda boring to me.

  • @EthanTheGamer77
    @EthanTheGamer77 2 роки тому +2

    3:36 you mean the pac and *PAL* reigon

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому +2

      I was aiming to be subtle, but also cheesy.

  • @shadeblackwolf1508
    @shadeblackwolf1508 2 роки тому

    I think the problem is that the entire roadmap was tied to ghostly adventures. Macktracking from that would have been really hard

  • @KianBarzi
    @KianBarzi 2 роки тому +1

    I wonder if the Disney Quest video is coming soon

    • @Pikachu_Snivy_57
      @Pikachu_Snivy_57 2 роки тому

      Just like defunctland's video

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому +1

      @@Pikachu_Snivy_57 There's much more to say now since it's replacement the NBA Experience closed down after not even two years.
      Disney uses the pandemic as an excuse. It was always a bad idea.

  • @Tricky_Nick
    @Tricky_Nick 2 роки тому +1

    LETS GOOOOO

  • @matthewgaming2408
    @matthewgaming2408 2 роки тому

    I really do want pac-man world 3 on my ds!

  • @crashban4t.f.s.b783
    @crashban4t.f.s.b783 2 роки тому +1

    Sonic boom wasn’t a reboot but, it was an asshole move for Sega to not tell the developers about the deal they has with Nintendo.

  • @JoIIypk
    @JoIIypk 2 роки тому

    Isnt pacmania on gamecube? I couldve sworn playing it as a kid

  • @sebbastian22
    @sebbastian22 2 роки тому

    Very good material, but we need timestamps

  • @sird2333
    @sird2333 2 роки тому

    What needs to happen is one party, Namco or whoever, get the rights to ALL Pac-Man games, including Ms. and Jr. and release them on an Arcade 1up machine b

  • @atariboy9084
    @atariboy9084 2 роки тому

    The biggest issue is with out Ms.Pac-Man they had lost half the fan base and Namco/Bandai need to just bit the power pellets and just buy Ms.Pac-Man whole sale.

  • @brendiesel386
    @brendiesel386 2 роки тому

    ms pacman maze madness deserves to be mentioned here

  • @Fazgaming263
    @Fazgaming263 2 роки тому +1

    I actually like ghostly adventures it wasn't perfect but there was a story shame they didn't finish the cartoon

  • @Maxxieuguu
    @Maxxieuguu 2 роки тому +1

    We gotta at least agree that pac man world 3 and pac man world rally are G.O.A.T.S

  • @protoluigi2047
    @protoluigi2047 2 роки тому

    Happy Birthday Demeech!! Well, the problem is that Namco is now more focused on anime and Tekken games since they seem to bring more money than Pac-Man games nowadays.

    • @Demeech
      @Demeech  2 роки тому

      That's why we need to speak up!

    • @protoluigi2047
      @protoluigi2047 2 роки тому

      @@Demeech The best thing we can do is buy their merch or play Pac-Man 99. I wanted the Pac-Man Hori Split Pad Pro because I like the design and Pac-Man.

  • @ADAM_NORMAN_AND_MELODY
    @ADAM_NORMAN_AND_MELODY 2 роки тому

    Somebody should make a Pac-Man videogame for Dreams PS4/PS5.... We got Pac-Man fever!!!!

  • @movingartillery5718
    @movingartillery5718 Рік тому

    Does anyone know what happened to Pac-Man World Rally? Has it really become an abandonware? Did Namco ever say anything about the state of the game? Did they make it free?

  • @sird2333
    @sird2333 2 роки тому

    No mention of Pac-Man Plus?

  • @ethandouro4334
    @ethandouro4334 2 роки тому +1

    Yo, do an update video, the pac is back