math rock is just indie

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  • @wyo
    @wyo  9 місяців тому +186

    Tutorial is up on Patreon

    • @whocares8735
      @whocares8735 8 місяців тому +3

      Tutorial for what? 😂

    • @olgaartamonova7385
      @olgaartamonova7385 7 місяців тому +1

      are you sure i can learn this hehe

    • @shaneilellis9832
      @shaneilellis9832 7 місяців тому +1

      Sounds good 👍

    • @theharshtruthoutthere
      @theharshtruthoutthere 7 місяців тому

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    • @BG-xn5tu
      @BG-xn5tu 5 місяців тому +3

      So the song is complete? Did you post the full thing so I can listen!

  • @MoonshineH
    @MoonshineH 11 місяців тому +1944

    I’ve always said mathrock is just emo in odd meter, but indie works, too.

    • @MoonshineH
      @MoonshineH 11 місяців тому +106

      @@thespcrewroy8716 bruh what emo kids are huge try hards on guitar. They shoehorn tapping and alternate tunings into everything

    • @georgefanourakis4560
      @georgefanourakis4560 10 місяців тому +7

      can confirm playing emo is a struggle@@MoonshineH

    • @SeanStephensen
      @SeanStephensen 10 місяців тому +33

      These days it isn’t even in an odd meter. Most math rock in the last 5 years (especially internet clickbait math rock) is just 4/4 guitar music that happens to use tapping. EVH was the original math rock

    • @amosbatalden5871
      @amosbatalden5871 9 місяців тому +1

      @@SeanStephensen 👆👆👆

    • @FlightTrack101
      @FlightTrack101 9 місяців тому +4

      @@thespcrewroy8716 You sir don't know what you're talking about

  • @ThatsWhatSheSaid_MathRockBand
    @ThatsWhatSheSaid_MathRockBand 5 місяців тому +4

    I love this song

  • @russallen2011
    @russallen2011 6 місяців тому +1

    This just sounds like pop music.

    • @trollcompany-gu7wp
      @trollcompany-gu7wp 3 місяці тому

      although music is subjective and opinion based, your opinion is trash. you didnt need to leave a comment so foul about other peoples music taste just because all you listen to is 1970s metal and pop. maybe refrain from posting terrible opinions again or, quit the internet entirley.

  • @remiseminara
    @remiseminara 7 місяців тому +1

    love the guitar bro ❤

  • @shishoo13s32
    @shishoo13s32 11 місяців тому

    Beautiful

  • @theplaceholder3
    @theplaceholder3 2 місяці тому +12

    0:02 What type of melody is the first two bars called? I’ve heard a lot of songs use this sort of guitar melody

    • @Tr1s
      @Tr1s Місяць тому

      Do you mean the procussive strums at the start of the track?
      Because that is inherently a rhythm element and not a melody as there is no pitch to it.

    • @theplaceholder3
      @theplaceholder3 Місяць тому +1

      @@Tr1s yeah, I hear this same sort of guitar pattern in a lot of alt/indie rock

    • @avs707
      @avs707 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@theplaceholder3it's really just rhythmical slides on bass strings nothing much

  • @abdurrahman-cb2js
    @abdurrahman-cb2js 9 місяців тому +1

    where is the math?

  • @kombuchachacha2418
    @kombuchachacha2418 Рік тому +1

    I don't understand, sounds like you're playing in 4/4. How is this math rock?

  • @damovicious
    @damovicious Рік тому +1091

    Those extra strums while tapping kept me guessing

    • @wyo
      @wyo  Рік тому +178

      haha i think what you’re hearing is the looping of the first 4 beats

    • @himanshubaweja5243
      @himanshubaweja5243 11 місяців тому +27

      ohhhh yeah! I didn't even notice you looped the first 4 beats. Great job, bro. Sick tune.@@wyo

  • @guillaumepreudhomme4800
    @guillaumepreudhomme4800 7 місяців тому +156

    Emo mathrock: midwest emo
    Pop/hiphop mathrock: polyphia
    Indie mathrock: chon, covet, toe
    Metal mathrock: animals as leaders

  • @DhavalKaku
    @DhavalKaku Рік тому +2979

    Math rock is basically a framework, which can be applied to any genre, and polyphia proved it

    • @cthulu4774
      @cthulu4774 Рік тому +150

      they arent mathrock tho

    • @DhavalKaku
      @DhavalKaku Рік тому +87

      Read again
      I too know the same😅

    • @THE-CRT
      @THE-CRT Рік тому +1

      ⁠@@cthulu4774they employ methods of it

    • @pietart3596
      @pietart3596 Рік тому +14

      so what genre are math rock songs lmao

    • @DhavalKaku
      @DhavalKaku Рік тому +152

      @@pietart3596 could be all genres. Math rock style involves complex beat structures which create unique harmony. It's super innovative😊

  • @balloon3503
    @balloon3503 Рік тому +421

    0:11 the way the break sounded was eargasmic

    • @hello-rq8kf
      @hello-rq8kf 10 місяців тому +4

      cute megana mio pfp

  • @jonasw3945
    @jonasw3945 8 місяців тому +5

    this is all in 4/4, why is this math rock ? Same for polyphia, why people think it is math rock when all of their song are straight 4/4 ? (same for guitarist like Ichika Nito) I think Tim Henson himself said they don't play math rock.
    Isn't the "math" part of math rock about the use of different time signatures and multiple tempo changes ?

    • @bluecup5463
      @bluecup5463 4 місяці тому

      its the way the melody is played along with the percussion on the guitar

  • @tom_dilley
    @tom_dilley Рік тому +181

    Everything you post has such a good stereo spread. Can you show us what you are doing ?

    • @Livvidicus
      @Livvidicus Рік тому +23

      If the Patreon included mixing tutorials and stuff like that I would definitely hop on

    • @wyo
      @wyo  Рік тому +120

      i usually just double track with the next best take because it’s sounds awesome lol. all the sounds here are recorded during filming/recorded audio manipulated in ableton (to make the guitar strums more like ‘drums’ for example)
      i love mixing so would love to do a vid or something in patreon detailing my approach

    • @arturomartin5561
      @arturomartin5561 Рік тому +11

      @@wyo 100% becoming a patreon if you do something like that. I always find my guitar tones cool by themselves but don't know what to do in a full mixor stuff like double tracking. I can mix vsts well but it just seems impossible with guitar

    • @dreadformer
      @dreadformer Рік тому

      ozone imager goes crazy

  • @Dan-22
    @Dan-22 Рік тому +223

    I hope to write good music like this in the future. Big inspiration 👍

  • @katielowen
    @katielowen Рік тому +4

    Math rock guitar players are just piano wannabes🥴

  • @TRUEHONESTWillSmith
    @TRUEHONESTWillSmith Рік тому +68

    How. I can imagine songs like this but I can't translate it into the guitar.

    • @unoriginal_name7091
      @unoriginal_name7091 Рік тому +31

      Spend more time learning songs by ear and only using tab either to "check your work" or if you're completely stuck on a part. You don't have to bang your head against the wall for weeks on end, but try for maybe 10-20 minutes before looking it up. If you stick with it for a few weeks you'll find your ears improve.

    • @ciudadcareta
      @ciudadcareta Рік тому +1

      extended major chords (?

  • @user-sd6jz9tf8w
    @user-sd6jz9tf8w 6 місяців тому +2

    hola somos las metricas 5/4 7/8 6/8 5/7 16/16 etc y parece que nos metiste por la raja

    • @user-sd6jz9tf8w
      @user-sd6jz9tf8w 6 місяців тому

      Hola! somos las poliritmias y nos metiste por la raja!! hoooola!!! somos los intercambios modales y nos metiste por la raja!! hooooooolaaaaa somos los arreglos con tapping y nos metiste por la raja

  • @なにま
    @なにま 9 місяців тому +18

    めっちゃカッコいい曲ですね
    これからもいろんなオリジナル曲を作ってください!
    Wyatt Otitさんを応援しています!🎉

  • @miloshk11
    @miloshk11 2 місяці тому +2

    idk man when i think mathrock im thinking Invalids, Floral, Snooze, the mfs that are using ridiculous time signature and polyrhythms for the sake of just being insane. This is very good but i feel its a lot more simplified then some of the really great mathrock stuff

  • @we_are_so_back
    @we_are_so_back 9 місяців тому +33

    i can’t handle how good this is

  • @stalwartzero7001
    @stalwartzero7001 8 місяців тому +1

    When did prog become math rock? This is more sped up emo then indie. It lacks the art school vibe

  • @SoloCap-Music
    @SoloCap-Music Рік тому +56

    Can't wait for you to blow up and make it big. I'm along for the journey with you, bro!

  • @DanceOfTheDawn5963
    @DanceOfTheDawn5963 10 місяців тому +1

    Tf is math about this at all it is that tappy upbeat kinda thing but this is not math rock

  • @WhybornMusic
    @WhybornMusic 3 місяці тому +1

    indie is just music

  • @pinnkkplaysdrums
    @pinnkkplaysdrums 10 місяців тому +8

    Isn't math rock indie just Peach Pit and Mom Jeans. hahaha (I love both these bands so)
    Jokes aside, incredible riff!! I love it

    • @maddoxhallums4869
      @maddoxhallums4869 9 місяців тому +1

      Those bands are indie rock/midwest emo. Check out bands like TTNG and Delta Sleep for that mathy stuff

  • @amax1985
    @amax1985 6 місяців тому +11

    I need a full version of these🔥🔥🔥

  • @Rvu72
    @Rvu72 7 місяців тому +1

    This is more like midwest emo tho....math rock is not this simple

  • @lafandio8954
    @lafandio8954 8 місяців тому +1

    cuz you're still playing in 4

  • @vintsu4205
    @vintsu4205 11 місяців тому +5

    threehearts - dream

    • @etoqa
      @etoqa 7 місяців тому +1

      ДАДАД

  • @edwardssistershands
    @edwardssistershands 9 місяців тому +1

    Imagine when you realize is is just prog... Fuckign zen G.

  • @theburntcrumpet8371
    @theburntcrumpet8371 7 місяців тому +1

    I don't hear the math rock but it's nice

  • @batatacuántica
    @batatacuántica 6 місяців тому +1

    Math rock is indie played by people who really know how to play (just kidding)

  • @nellysensls7190
    @nellysensls7190 6 місяців тому +2

    wow, the look of the guitar is amazing. evokes some nostalgia in my provincial Russian heart, haha

  • @Alejandro02Manzo
    @Alejandro02Manzo Рік тому +7

    What tuning is this?

  • @ColdFox1229
    @ColdFox1229 6 місяців тому +1

    そのボディの見た目でハイテクな音出すギャップが良い...

  • @Atinajoshi
    @Atinajoshi Рік тому +12

    Bruh I’m in love with ur style

  • @Green_Bean_Machine
    @Green_Bean_Machine Рік тому +4

    no, it isn't, but this is a dope little tune you got here

  • @The_Fellow
    @The_Fellow 9 місяців тому +2

    MAKE INTO FULL SONG….please

  • @niklashalver9695
    @niklashalver9695 Рік тому +2

    sounds cool, but has nothing to do with math rock.

  • @jamdaboxhead2028
    @jamdaboxhead2028 5 місяців тому +4

    I NEED AN EXTENDED VERSION OF THIS 😮

  • @bartoszbujacz8115
    @bartoszbujacz8115 10 місяців тому +3

    Dude, what’s that guitar? It’s stunning

  • @Goldyloccs
    @Goldyloccs 8 місяців тому +1

    my best friend jiffy can do this way vetter

  • @chrismaghintay
    @chrismaghintay Рік тому +13

    I like the distressing on your guitar. How'd you get that?

    • @vreevroow
      @vreevroow Рік тому +4

      fella sped up not only the video but also time itself

    • @ldblokland463
      @ldblokland463 11 місяців тому +1

      3 ways to get it like that:
      1: Play it for years
      2: Pay someone to relic it
      3: Go to a gravel parking lot and just drag it on the ground

    • @sc0nesy
      @sc0nesy 10 місяців тому

      It's an Allen Eden Guitars body has the same wear pattern as their nitro body's they used to sell

  • @yeremyantoniosaldiviabolanos
    @yeremyantoniosaldiviabolanos Рік тому +6

    Totally Agree, based on Indie.
    It's beautiful!

  • @Secretsofsociety
    @Secretsofsociety 6 місяців тому +2

    This is like the indie version of a The Fall of Troy song. Nice to hear this sound outside of the hardcore context.

  • @Naiaizumi
    @Naiaizumi 5 місяців тому

    The real question is how many duplicate tracks .

  • @fruitygranulizer540
    @fruitygranulizer540 Рік тому +9

    also love the stereo processing u do after

  • @grantmeister1420
    @grantmeister1420 11 місяців тому +1

    math rock? it’s just 4/4 the whole time lol

  • @floatpog1048
    @floatpog1048 Рік тому +2

    what tuning is this?

  • @swimagainst
    @swimagainst 4 місяці тому

    Time Signatures:
    Math Rock:
    Often employs complex, unconventional time signatures like 7/8, 11/8, or alternating time signatures within a song.
    Indie Rock:
    Generally uses standard time signatures like 4/4 or 3/4, though some indie bands experiment with odd time signatures as well.
    Harmonies:
    Math Rock:
    Utilizes dissonant and complex harmonies. Chords can be extended and altered to create a distinctive, angular sound.
    Indie Rock:
    Typically features simpler, more traditional harmonies. Chords are often major or minor, with occasional use of sevenths or other extensions.
    Scales:
    Math Rock:
    Frequently explores non-traditional scales and modes, such as whole tone, diminished, or exotic scales, to add to the complexity.
    Indie Rock:
    More likely to stick with conventional scales like major and minor. Some indie bands might incorporate modes like Dorian or Mixolydian for a unique flavor.
    Tunings:
    Math Rock:
    Often experiments with alternative tunings to achieve unique chord voicings and tonal qualities. Common tunings include drop D or even more unconventional setups.
    Indie Rock:
    Primarily uses standard tuning, but some bands use drop D or open tunings for certain songs.
    Rhythm:
    Math Rock:
    Characterized by intricate and syncopated rhythms. Drummers often use polyrhythms and odd accents, creating a complex rhythmic foundation.
    Indie Rock:
    Typically features straightforward, steady rhythms. The drumming is more groove-oriented and supports the melody and harmony rather than standing out.
    Song Structure:
    Math Rock:
    Often eschews traditional verse-chorus structures in favor of more through-composed forms. Songs may consist of several distinct sections with little repetition.
    Indie Rock:
    Generally adheres to conventional song structures like verse-chorus-verse. There is a clear and recognizable pattern that is easy to follow.
    Overall Style:
    Math Rock:
    Emphasizes technical proficiency and complexity. Guitar work is often intricate, with tapping, fast arpeggios, and rapid changes.
    Indie Rock:
    Focuses more on melody, lyrics, and atmosphere. The music tends to be more accessible and emotionally driven.

  • @rustik_tak
    @rustik_tak 9 місяців тому +1

    Инструментал для dream · threehearts

  • @Spacebeetle.777
    @Spacebeetle.777 5 місяців тому +1

    titkok math rock

    • @trollcompany-gu7wp
      @trollcompany-gu7wp 3 місяці тому

      although music is subjective and opinion based, your opinion is trash. you didnt need to leave a comment so foul about other peoples music taste just because all you listen to is 1970s metal and pop. maybe refrain from posting terrible opinions again or, quit the internet entirley.

  • @geder188
    @geder188 5 місяців тому

    The main differences is Math Rock have dose weird tempo signatures plus a quirky structure. indie rock is more pop-ish have a easier tempo and structure, guitar riffs are not so overcomplex and its more friendly with people that consume pop music. however the sonority and the music scales/tones are basically the same, Math Rock is more sophisticated and Indie Rock is more pop-friendly i will say.

  • @yetoshimon2446
    @yetoshimon2446 6 днів тому

    from What brand is this guitar I'm really curious because i think this guitar is from vintage's guitars brand but I'm not sure about that can you tell me what brand the guitar is? because i really like your guitar

  • @tacopower3578
    @tacopower3578 Місяць тому

    HOW IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT HOW COOL THIS IS THIS IS AMAZING YOU ARE A LITERAL GOD PLSSSSS OMGGGGFUHJENBDJCSNS

  • @MrBASS-vt3op
    @MrBASS-vt3op 2 місяці тому

    What's ,,math" about this kind of music. Classical music is the most ,,math" especially Bach, but this has nothing to do with math

  • @soutouo
    @soutouo 7 місяців тому

    No, bro, you're just playing indie math. You could play anything else and then it'd be that other genre+math

  • @ASMR_ligeros_pensamientos.
    @ASMR_ligeros_pensamientos. 5 місяців тому

    Es estúpido decir que el Math Rock es aplicable a todos los géneros, esto se demuestra fácilmente al escuchar muchas bandas distintas encajadas con su respectivo género musical, nunca escucharás un estilo de guitarra como este en una canción de reggae, tampoco de Rock progresivo, tampoco de Trap ni tampoco de Cumbia…eso demuestra que es un sub-género propio…y por eso es estúpido y sumamente ignorante diluir el espacio individual e independiente que tiene este estilo de rock…

  • @RSIDNTmusic
    @RSIDNTmusic 23 дні тому

    This feels more ichika nito than indie though. Started out feeling indie, then got into some more neo soul-ish chord progressions and taps

  • @uhhh_madden
    @uhhh_madden Рік тому +4

    What guitar is that? I need it!

    • @quest8447
      @quest8447 Рік тому

      fr

    • @luantang3561
      @luantang3561 Рік тому

      definetly not an expert on this, but it looks like the LIMITED EDITION CORY WONG STRATOCASTER or another version of the fender stratocaster series.

  • @seroquelchamber
    @seroquelchamber 7 місяців тому

    indie isnt a genre its a category of genres and math rock could be put within that category if you didn't know about rock and roll i guess.

  • @LogiCreates
    @LogiCreates 4 місяці тому

    Did this song ever come out? Would love to hear a full version

  • @JP-1990
    @JP-1990 12 днів тому

    This sounds like it belongs in the soundtrack to a Persona game.

  • @RequestAssassin
    @RequestAssassin 6 місяців тому

    You are incorrect, because every genre ever is actually just Goth Surf Guitar

  • @whatburnsneverreturns
    @whatburnsneverreturns Місяць тому

    listen to any don caballero song and you'd completely disagree

  • @JeremimiVlogs
    @JeremimiVlogs Місяць тому

    am i able to use a part of this riff for an outro in a video with full credits to you and link

  • @lukerumpler972
    @lukerumpler972 11 місяців тому +9

    What tuning is this?

  • @Antonius1102
    @Antonius1102 Місяць тому

    Strats are only cool when you’re good like this guy.

  • @monkemanmma
    @monkemanmma 8 місяців тому

    Maths rock is EMO PROG or is math rock jazz emo who knows ?

  • @mrtoludo
    @mrtoludo 2 місяці тому

    day 2 of begging you to tell me how you recorded this

  • @cheesist6998
    @cheesist6998 Рік тому +2

    Hella in the corner wailing after looking at the title

  • @dannymorris5613
    @dannymorris5613 11 днів тому

    0:22 very incubus sounding bend riff

  • @zuffin1864
    @zuffin1864 28 днів тому

    im not good with music stuff but i think this is correct

  • @yeetlegosi
    @yeetlegosi 4 місяці тому +1

    this is too good but why not mess around with an odd time signature???

  • @telephant6203
    @telephant6203 6 місяців тому

    Jujutsu kaisen

  • @mrtoludo
    @mrtoludo 2 місяці тому

    please i beg you tell me how did you recorded this

  • @SMPLcity
    @SMPLcity 2 місяці тому

    Did this track ever get put on spotify?

  • @AdamH-Lifts
    @AdamH-Lifts 4 місяці тому

    fire how much the partscaster run you up? cause that is heat

  • @mingistech
    @mingistech 16 днів тому

    Naw, there is tons of 4/4 Indy.

  • @wooshinwev4329
    @wooshinwev4329 2 місяці тому

    please tell me you made this into a full song

  • @chiemorrison7117
    @chiemorrison7117 5 місяців тому

    this is so ichika nito coded

  • @user-fl8kx8xr3d
    @user-fl8kx8xr3d 7 місяців тому

    Good but not enough beeps and boops thrown in.

  • @iianss6091
    @iianss6091 Рік тому +2

    but really just jazz

  • @IceGamerification
    @IceGamerification 8 місяців тому

    dont compare math rock to shitty indie lmao

  • @정현빈-t9v
    @정현빈-t9v 4 місяці тому

    how did you get that beautiful tone?

  • @_gqlaxy_7904
    @_gqlaxy_7904 2 місяці тому

    What guitar is that it sounds so good

  • @OxidizeTunes
    @OxidizeTunes 11 місяців тому +1

    did u work on that brakence album?

  • @sukieyakie
    @sukieyakie 7 місяців тому

    what is math rock??

  • @cullenparker9096
    @cullenparker9096 5 місяців тому

    Math Rock is just Emo Jazz

  • @toxicenergy6127
    @toxicenergy6127 7 місяців тому

    what pedal is he using anyone ?

  • @Nyabot-mh2zi
    @Nyabot-mh2zi 5 місяців тому

    .nayaeyajnyenaunaynahnaynaynayanyanayanauanaynayanauanauahanauanahanshanuansuanaynsyanayabyanayan

    • @Nyabot-mh2zi
      @Nyabot-mh2zi 5 місяців тому

      Sorry I just ogm this was so yummy idk how to express it dude my ears and brain are so happy

  • @Nb-uh2tg
    @Nb-uh2tg Місяць тому

    What type of guitar?

  • @9pitopo
    @9pitopo 3 місяці тому

    what tuning was the guiter in?

  • @MxAxTxExUxS
    @MxAxTxExUxS 26 днів тому

    Full version please

  • @user-19kemkxnfhk18
    @user-19kemkxnfhk18 4 місяці тому

    Math rock in 4/4 😮‍💨

  • @thecuchords
    @thecuchords 9 місяців тому +2

    Fire playlist... Can you create another one with some October Ends tracks? Dark and Call Play Time are pure bangers!

  • @grqfes
    @grqfes 6 місяців тому

    your guitar looks fnaf

  • @YipJumpMusic
    @YipJumpMusic 9 місяців тому

    Math rock is not indie🤮