Ibn Taymiyya's views on Mawlid, Grave Visitation, and Intercession.
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- I read from the highly recommended book 'Ibn Taymiyya (Makers of the Muslim World)' by Jon Hoover, Professor of Islamic Studies at the University of Nottingham. www.amazon.co....
My humble respect to all Muslim scholars, past and present from four corners of the world.. Peace and Blessings upon our prophet Muhammad salallahu alaihi wassalam..
AAAMIYN!
Ya nabi Salaam alaika
Aamin.
Well said.
Best advice if Muslims did this more often we would not be so divided and worry about Muslims celebrating Mawlid.
If we understood the intentions and purpose of Mawlid we would not worry about it.
@@MrRiz157 I completely understand why ppl celebrate mawlid and I completely understand why ppl don't celebrate mawlid.
I think the main thing we need to concentrate on is our intentions . If they're clean then Allah subhanwatallah will reward you for it
May Allah ﷻ give taufiq and guidance to us to only follow prophet Muhammad ﷺ sunnah and keep us steadfast... آمين يَا رَبَّ العَالَمِينَ
Aameen
Amazing video! Ibn Tayymiyyah has been misrepresented by both his modern day opponents and supporters. Ibn Tayymiyyah was a very deep thinker who thought with a lot of nuance. I would say I am a traditional muslim opposed to many of the things Ibn Tayymiyyah said, yet I appreciate his contributions. His conception of ijtihad was unique and very special indeed. May Allah reward you for this wonderfully explained video.
@@HATL201 Haha I know all about the problematic statements of ibn tayymiyah. As for mawlid if I remember in Iman Suyuti's fatwa he says it Biddah Hasana. You are correct we all celebrate it out of love and we do not limit it to any day or month.
Anyways there are rules and categories of how to assess if something is a biddah and of what nature it is. As for defending ibn tayymiyyah, I think many great scholars have already pointed out his errors and also defended him at times.
Keep up the great work my beloved brother, we need this. May Allah reward you with jannah.
Very useful and depth commentary, in a brief and compact presentation. Thank you Paul.
Glad it was helpful!
@@BloggingTheology This nuanced view of Ibnu Taimiyyah is in fact the opinion of the vast majority of contemporary salafi scholars. The mainstream salafi opinion is that acts of innovation/ bid' a performed by Muslim layman who are ignorant about the fact that those acts of worship are innovations will be rewarded for their good intentions. The act itself is rejected as the prophet- sallallahu alayhi wa sallam- said but the good intention may be rewarded. That's the mainstream opinion amongst salafi scholars.
Some salafi scholars have stated that they don't know that those good intentions of innovative practices will be rewarded but they agree at least that Muslim laymen who are ignorant because nobody made clear to them and explained to them the reality of those innovations that they will not be held accountable by God.
@@dannydebruin4090 Thanks for the clarification!
@@BloggingTheology Ibn Taymiyyah's books are still a reference in discussions and refutation of deviant religions and sects.. It is still the book Minhaj of the Prophet's Sunnah. One of the greatest books in response to the deviations of the Shiites and was the reason for the return of many Shiites to Islam.
@@user-kj8yl6sn2z Ibn Taymiyyah was a Sufi
Subject brilliantly presented Paul
This is fascinating Paul! More of this please
Merci beaucoup pour ces partages Paul.
Thanks brother paul . Every video of yours is a great efforts to explain expertise of various Islamic scholars . Please keep up the great work. May allah bless you
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“Good intentions” doesn’t always lead to good deeds. It should be paired with the knowledge of the divine purpose.
As seen in the hadith of the three men who decided to be abstinent from the mundane desires but prophet Mohamed denounced their act and said: whom desires not my way, is not from me.
Jazaak Allahu khair
Well pointed . I too don’t agree to this good intention.every innovation has a good intention .but it’s not the prophetic way .
Islamic scholarship have always permitted the blessed Mawlid un Nabi & the VAST MAJORITY follow the shariah when celebrating it hence is 100% rewarded By Allah awj. Only deviant heretical tin pot wahhabi/salafi scholars have spoken against it. shaytan and it's army despise the birth of the Holy Prophet & cried. So those who are sad on that day are mimmicking shaytan.
Exactly, Tafsir Surah Fatiha talks about how Muslims are the middle path with knowledge and acts with good intentions, yeahood have ilm but not acts, christians have acts but no ilm!
A) A'ishah reported the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) as saying:
If any one introduces into this affair of ours anything which does not belong to it, it is rejected. Ibn `Isa said: The Prophet (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) said: If anyone practices any action in a way other than our practice, it is rejected.
- Sunan Abi Dawud 4606, Kitab Sunnah
B)
Narrated Abu Sa`id Al-Khudri:
(who fought in twelve Ghazawat in the company of the Prophet). I heard four things from the Prophet (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) and they won my admiration. He said; - 1. "No lady should travel on a journey of two days except with her husband or a Dhi-Mahram; - 2. "No fasting is permissible on the two days of Id-ul-Fitr and `Id-ul-Adha; - 3. "No prayer (may be offered) after the morning compulsory prayer until the sun rises; and no prayer after the `Asr prayer till the sun sets; - 4. "One should travel only for visiting three Masjid (Mosques): Masjid-al-Haram (Mecca), Masjid-al- Aqsa (Jerusalem), and this (my) Mosque (at Medina).
- Sahih al-Bukhari 1995, Book of Fasting
Abu Hurairah (RAA) narrated that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) cxrsed the women who frequently visit the graves. Related At-Tirmidhi and Ibn Hibban graded it as Sahih.
- Bulugh al-Maram 586, Book of Funerals
C)
Quran 39 : 44 - Say: "To Allah belongs all intercession.
Abu Marthad al-Ghanawi reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) as saying: Do not pray facing towards the graves, and do not sit on them. - Sahih Muslim 972b, Book of Janazah
Abu'l-Hayyaj al-Asadi told that 'Ali (b. Abu Talib) said to him:
Should I not send you on the same mission as Allah's Messenger (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) sent me? Do not leave an image without obliterating it, or a high grave without levelling It. This hadith has been reported by Habib with the same chain of transmitters and he said: (Do not leave) a picture without obliterating it.
- Sahih Muslim 969, Book of Janazah
Jabir said: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) forbade that the graves should be plastered or they be used as sitting places (for the people), or a building should be built over them.
- Sahih Muslim 970, Book of Janazah
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
The Prophet (ﷺ peace and blessings be upon him) said: Do not make your houses graves, and do not make my grave a place of festivity. But invoke blessings on me, for your blessings reach me wherever you may be.
- Abu Dawud 2042 (Sahih Albani), Kitab Hajj
etc.
What a wonderful analysis. Goes to show how important it is to be tolerant of others take on these sensitive topics and that no scholar can be considered as the absolute interpreter of shariah. Thank you brother for taking us along this scholarly journey for the truth.
@@Saber23 what aqeedah do you follow? Just curious because of your extreme hate for ibn Taymiyyah.
@@Saber23 that's why I ask, what aqeedah do you follow? I said hate because I've seen your negative comments about him more than once. But no matter. What's your belief then?
PLEASEEEEE a video on ibn taymiyyahs views on sufism and ahlul kalam
Ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullah, may Allah bless him with jannatul firdaws al ala! Ameen.
Ameen
Br Paul, when are you inviting Sh Abdul Hakim Murad again? Perhaps Ibn Taymiyah could be a discussion??
What's there to discuss about? the matter is clear.
Would be an interesting discussion. Sh Abdul Hakim is probably one of the leading Ghazalian scholars in the West.
@@liberator9473 that’s an ambiguous statement.
Great idea, we need to learn our religion well.
@@liberator9473 comments like that just take people apart.
thank you paul. may Allah bless you for the knowledge you shared..it's also sad to know that some ppl misunderstood all the legit hadiths and goes to the extreme side of things, hence the controversies too..
May Allah reward you brother Paul. But I would like to clarify one thing here that a Muslim has no hesitation in accepting that a Muslim will be rewarded for his good intention in doing any act of worship even if it was not legislated by the religion provided that he was unaware of its prohibition or disapproval, just as no Muslim will be punished for committing the sins that he did not know were considered as sins in the religion. This is one of the most basic principles of Islam and no follower of Imam ibn Taymiyyah (may Allah have mercy upon him) would have any problem in accepting it. But good intention does not make the deed acceptable in and of itself as ibn Taymiyyah himself said that these people will only be rewarded for their intentions and not the deed. So as far as the act itself was concerned then his position was quite clear that it is undoubtedly prohibited and greatly disliked in the religion and his whole life and his struggles against the innovators bears testimony to that fact
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@@ilmal-quranwalsunnah1532 Your are gifted with a great talent brother, may Allah grant you success in your endeavour, just make sure the sources you quote hadith from are authentic, since books such as Fazail e amaal are not reliable. Barakallah
But in Quran it is written, the acts which you think are good may not be good in Allah's view. Those who think are good can be wrong
@@imrankhan786111 Yes, that's precisely what is being said. An innovation cannot be converted into a legislated and acceptable act just by having good intentions while doing it. But if a person was unaware of the deed being an innovation at the time of performing it while having good intentions then he or she may be rewarded for the good intention and not for the deed itself, and neither will the deed itself become acceptable or legitimate in the sight of Shari'ah.
@@Abdurrahman-cv9sc agreed
The sahabas loved the prophet Muhammad more than we could ever imagine, yet they never celebrated his birthday.❣️
Let us not add innovation to the already perfected religion of Islam.❤️
Sometimes Iblis can trick Mankind 😭 into doing something they think is good.
Be careful!
Why did the sahabas kill each other after they killed the Holy Prophet PBUH?
@@zakarihamidu7771this is your evil imaginations
Excellent presentation Paul .
It’s very sincere of you to discuss the subtle nuances of positions , held by the Ulema ❤️❤️
Your talks are contemporary, intellectual and very valuable.
Jazak Allah brother
May Allah reward you in this world and the hereafter, ameen.
الحمدلله، thank you for sharing with us the knowledge.
For those who condemn grave visitation outright and the building of mosques over tombs, ponder on the reality that the Prophet's mosque in Medina (Masjid An Nabawi) is where the bodies of the Prophet himself along side which lie the bodies of Abu Bakr and Umar are enshrined and where millions of devout muslims make pilgrimage and supplication year round. The glaring inconsistency between doctrine and actual practice in this case reflects a need for serious re-evaluation on one's narrow rigid stance.
Paul u definitely must make a video about iben taymiya book "The True Answer for Those Who Altered The Religion of Christ" its 6 books and tge 7th is index u definitely must review it I wonder if its translated to english
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This channel is gem
As-salamu Alaykum, i make Islamic calligraphies, i invite you to see them, Jazak Allahu Khayr
That is diving deep in islam
God bless
You should read Ibn Qayyim (beloved sstudent of Ibn Taymiyya) and Ibn Jawzy! Their books are on another level too !!
you got that right. I also like Ibn Abdul Wahab, He is from Banu tamim name of a tribe in hadith hardest on dajjal!
@@911mossadvanbombersclassif4 and also from Najd the horn of the devil
Ibn Qayyim. Ibn al jawzi are the same person
@@truthoverhappiness7338 close name but not the same person first one is ibn qayim al jawziya, second is ibn al jawzi he is a different person
@@truthoverhappiness7338 nope
Simply put, the Mawlid is celebrated by thanking our Creator for the Mercy that was sent to Mankind. Truly a Favour upon Mankind. Otherwise what would be our state?
Prophet muhammad pbuh said " do not go to extreme in raising my status as the Christians did " . Nowadays Muslims have started a new innovation in deen of celebriting the birthday of prophet Muhammad which by the way is european culture of celebriting birthday . Our prophet didn't celebrited nor did any of the sahaba ( companions) , and the companion of sahaba but here we are some people making new things in deen and making difference in Ummah. Prophet muhammad pbuh clearly said every new thing in the deen is bidah and every bidah leads to jahannam(hellfire)
There's no such thing as good innovations we should keep the Deen how it is 👍🏾
@@imbored1179 there is, Taraweeh in congregation was innovated by Hazrat Umar (r.a), and it was called Bidatul Hasan.
Assalamu wa 'alaykum
Please akhi, when you are a jahil, you don't talk and you absolutely not traited your brothers in Islam of mubtadi'. It's incredible when the muslim mass talk with their ignorance and they are like they have the 'ilm, you are jahil, you don't even know the 50+ 'ulamas who traited Mawlid of bid3atu hassanah, and no, not all bid3a lead to al Nar, because if it does, praying Taraweeh will lead to al Nar, having regrouping the Quran in 1 book will lead to al Nar, and so and so. So akhi understand that you are jahil, very jahil, like all of us, so don't talk about dinnillah because you will saying an amazing thing and Allah will judge you about that wal 'iyadoubiLLAH, w'ALLAHU a3lam.
@@imbored1179 this is incorrect. There is such a thing as good innovation, and there are hadith in relation to starting a good practice if im correct.
@@ilmnaut8032 pls read about what Umar r.a didn't innovatted but the messenger used to do it alot of time with shabah until he said i was fearid that Allah may make it compulsory to my ummah then he was doing trawiah in his home then many years later umar saw many sahaba doing it spreatly in the masque then he said it would be better if they have an t so it wasn't innovation bc the Massinger did it.
How can you call it shrine worship, MaazAllah. No Muslim worships the shrine
May Allah have mercy on his soul
Aameen, As-salamu Alaykum, i make Islamic calligraphies, i invite you to see them, Jazak Allahu Khayr
@@ilmal-quranwalsunnah1532 ma sha Allah beautiful stuff brother, subscribed, keep it up :)
If shrine worship is a favorable thing in Islam then why Sahabah didn’t do it after the passing of prophet Muhammed peace be upon him? That’s enough evidence for me..
Watch the video again. Ibn Taymiyyah is not talking about grave worship, he is talking about grave visitation
Wonderful much appreciation!
I will forever remain bewildered as to how one could give more credence to Shaykh Ibn Taymiyya's view on the Hanbali Madhab rather than Imam Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, himself. Even if unintentional, it is truly bizare.
Hermit Ally
Horn of Satan rising from Saudi Arabia- Najd embraces Halloween - Dajjal is pleased..
ua-cam.com/video/srYCCoZDu0U/v-deo.html
Ibn taymiyyas and abdul wahab, the rest to the garabage
Give credence to all the 4 Madhabs and the 4 great imams .💯
With due Respect, the writings or the opinion of Jon Hoover means absolutely very little to the people who have understanding of the religion of Islam. He is neither a scholar or a reference of Islamic Studies. The view of Ibn Taymiyyah regarding celebrating the birthday of the Prophet (peace be upon him) or visitation of graves is that, it is a bid'a an innovation; Thus not from the legislations of Islam. If you truely want to know the view or the life of Ibn Taymiyyah. There is no better person to tell you about him, than his own student. Ibn Qayyim al Jawziya.
Let us learn from the mistakes of the previous people of the book.
@@matthewpaulson6497 If you actually took more time to verify what you are writing than just copy pasting, you would be closer to the truth...
@@matthewpaulson6497 even if you have read Quran and Hadith it doesn’t make a difference because you are insecure of Islam. Keep trolling fake scholar
@@matthewpaulson6497
Following the OT, christians wouldnt take Jesus as God. That is against the first commandment.
And you'll also find many false prophets among christian communities.
You can find some of them preaching in youtube.
@@matthewpaulson6497
Moses did not take the burning bush as God.
And Moses didnt take Jesus as God, either.
God is only one and only Him should be worshipped.
This is the 1st commandment.
@@matthewpaulson6497
God is not a burning bush.
God is not Jesus.
If you love the prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h. than follow the sunnah.
Follow his teachings and his way of life and that will show your love for the prophet.❤️
What ever you do should be for the pleasure of Allah only.💯💕
"Alone You do we worship and alone You do we ask for help" - surah Fatiha - first chapter of The Qoran.
We only pray to one being - The God.
All other beings are only creatures.
Should we not call a doctor if our child is sick or the fire dept when our house is on fire? Surely Allah awj is watching so we should just pray to Him & ask Him Alone right!? The doctors & fire men are creatures after all.
Jazak Allahu Khayr, du'a is for Allah alone, the deeds of the dead are cut off.
@@matthewpaulson6497 In The Qoran, the direct speech from God to Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, is not the only type of content. There is also story telling and prayers that we should say when seeking protection from God.
So, God is not worshipping Himself, rather showing us the right way of doing it.
@@matthewpaulson6497 Jesus, peace be upon him, prayed to God. So, if you believe that Jesus, peace be upon him, was God then you also believe that God prayed to God.
Think about it.
May Allah guide you.
@@matthewpaulson6497 So do you believe that Jesus, pbuh, is God or son of God? If he, pbuh, is son of God, why do you pray to him, pbuh, and not to God? If he, pbuh, is God, then how can God be a being that needs to eat, sleep...a being that can bleed?...
The legendary ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullah.
أيت من أيات الله
Yes, may you be with him in the hereafter!
Ibn Taymiyya Lanatullah Alayh
@@ItachiAli1993 lol
@@akbaslam haha
@@seekkeith23 yes more power to you.... Lol
JazakaAllah khaire Brother!
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Did the prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h.
ask us to celebrate Mawlid?👌👌👌
Our success lies in obeying the command of Allah and following the way of Prophet Mohammed p.
b.u.h..
Islam is complete .
No human intervention necessary to change it.👍
I find it important to discern God mandated from man mandated.
Very interesting topic, and actual and relevant. Many thanks.
👍🏽😘
Ibn Taimeyya is such a brilliant!
The more I read about him, and by him, the more I get fascinated about his character and genius.
😂😂
Thank you brother paul this lecture . very nuanced
thank you brother Paul I have been waiting for this video for a long time, because I wanted to share this exact content in English.
I've listened to something similar in Arabic for dr. Adnan Ibrahim but never in English and by an expert on ibn Taimia like John hoover.
may Allah bless you, I really enjoy following your channel.
Paul, Jazak Allah for sharing useful information so elaguently, about some scholars and their thoughts.
Jzk Allah dear Paul for this wonderful lecture, well presented. May Allah reward you. I have subscribed to your channel :)
Welcome aboard!
My common sense tells me, besides my family and friends celebrating Maulid is simple. If it is not a sin to not celebrate it, than no need to celebrate it. Allah knows best.
I think we celebrate something because we are "happy" enough to celebrate that event, not because there is a "need" to celebrate. Idk.
"I think
"My common sense"
Hello nafsworld ! Why have we 'ulamas if we can listen to our nafs ? Please when you are jahil of dinillah, just shut your nafs and go learn with sunni 'ulamas inshaa ALLAH
@@palebluedot8733 you celebrate what no one did in islam for over 600 years?
@@epa0090 Islamic scholars have permitted it for 1400yrs & most muslims did ecelebrate the Mawlid. It became a national event in Egypt 600yrs later thats all. The Holy Prophet S marked it himself by fasting on Mondays. He marked the victory in the battle of Badr all his life. Hajj is literally marking great events like Abraham as's attempted sacrifice of Ishmael. Hagar running for water between safa marwa. Stoning shaytan etc. So great events are clearly marked in Islam.
@Billy Blanco Did you know that Mawlid is a 12 century Shia invention? Are you Shia?
Islam is the only religion that encourages others to ask question about it ..
Who does not want to celebrate Prophet's puh birth day? Muslims love him to death and to express it is only natural. It is pure joy to feel grateful to Allah for Prophet's leadership to Umma.
May Allah reward you sir
Excellent read brother Paul 👏👏👏 Masha'Allah Tabaaraka Allah excellent, very well balanced and i am in agreement with the dislike of seeking intercession or actions that may lead to shirk as well the as t visiting the graves is allowed by the prophet Muhammad ﷺ on grounds that it'll remind us of death and the afterlife. I'm in total agreement that loving the prophet Muhammad ﷺ entitles following his footsteps and authentic Sunnah and not by innovating in the matters of worship if the innovators consider celebrating the "birth day of the noble prophet Muhammad ﷺ will gain them any rewards or acceptance from Allah.
I am very thankfull of your efforts to enighten our religion. May Allah bless you
I’m no neo-salafi but may Allah bless Ibn Taymiyyah. His writings convey his sincerity towards Allah and His messenger ﷺ
I'm already reading his book, I can say he understood and presented Ibn Taymiyya better than lot of Muslims (even some Muslim scholars).
Fam he is sheik-ul islam ibn taymiyyah
Don't be silly. How can a Christian orientalist understand things regarding the Deen better than Muslim ulema?
Take your Deen from reputable scholars like Ibn Baz, Albani, Uthaymeen, and all the other classical scholars.
Maybe to you. Cuz lots of Muslims in the west think and care for things the same way a westerner do, thus, book such that one makes more sense to them.
Refer to the historical response by the scholarly consensus of the time towards the opinions of Ibn Taymiyah.
Paul you are fantastic in your understanding of true Islam that's why you chose to quote those topics. All wrong narrations started about Islam just because of hadith which got upper hand over Quran and led to debate and discussion like a controversial subjects. Quran though explicitly says any form of reverence, regards about people, place, ideas are equivalent to shirk other than Allah and His messages. Ibn Tamaiyya was truly an amazing personality of Islam who tried to understand Islam correctly. Thanks for sharing this piece of information.
Imam Taqi al-Din al-Subki (رَحِمَهُ ٱللَّٰهُ) The lion of Ahlus-Sunnah!
When prophet Muhammad saw was born shaytan cried so we Muslims do the opposite we are happy on his birthday Alhamdulillah
Was the prophet Muhammad s.a.w. born on 12 Rabiulawaal???👌
No one knows the exact date as it was not recorded.
There were no birth certificates in those days.👍
@@mahmed4581 again missed the point he’s making. Sad
Incorrect: Hajj is a ritual and a celebration of the events of the former Prophets and Messengers of Allah سبحانه وتعالى
Actually, the rituals of Hajj have more to do with Prophets Abraham and Ismael along with Ishmael’s mother Haajar (Hagar), may Allah Azawajal bless them all (aameen ya Rabb) than our beloved master and Prophet salalahu alayhi wassalam.
Edit: Sorry didn’t see you already mentioned other Prophets.
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It was narrated from Abu Hurairah that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said:
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“You will most certainly follow the ways of those who came before you, arm’s length by arm’s length, forearm’s length by forearm’s length, hand span by hand span, until even if they entered a hole of a mastigure (lizard) you will enter it too.” They said: “O Messenger of Allah, (do you mean) the Jews and the Christians?” He said: “Who else?”
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حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ أَبِي شَيْبَةَ، حَدَّثَنَا يَزِيدُ بْنُ هَارُونَ، عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عَمْرٍو، عَنْ أَبِي سَلَمَةَ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ " لَتَتَّبِعُنَّ سُنَّةَ مَنْ كَانَ قَبْلَكُمْ بَاعًا بِبَاعٍ وَذِرَاعًا بِذِرَاعٍ وَشِبْرًا بِشِبْرٍ حَتَّى لَوْ دَخَلُوا فِي جُحْرِ ضَبٍّ لَدَخَلْتُمْ فِيهِ " . قَالُوا يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ الْيَهُودُ وَالنَّصَارَى قَالَ " فَمَنْ إِذًا " .
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Grade: Hasan (Darussalam)
Reference : Sunan Ibn Majah 3994
In-book reference : Book 36, Hadith 69
English translation : Vol. 5, Book 36, Hadith 3994
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sunnah.com/ibnmajah:3994
I totally agree with ibn tymiyya it does eventually lead to polytheism and instead of supplicating to God alone they direct their supplication to dead people
i don't celebrate mawlid
Alhamdulillah
Make sure u don’t celebrate ur own or ur kid’s birthday too
@@ghulamqadiri638 ua-cam.com/video/OQBbPd4txC0/v-deo.html see what in name of good innovation people do insulting islam and Sheik abdul qadir jilani RA . See the video i mentioned and tell me is this islam and if its shirk or not?
@@ghulamqadiri638 We don't alhamdulillah.
@@OK-yc7bt in this video there is no shirk he hasn’t associated any partners to allah only saying to fulfill your 5 prayers and follow the good people like abdul qadir jillani
Whatever it is.....If we understand "RAHMATULILALAMIN" means deeply then what Ibn Tamiah says is not important to discuss.
I agree with Ibn Tahmiyya RA on all grounds. He was a true genius. May Allah give him ajre azeem (greatest reward) for his services to Islam.
If the “ companions sought prophets intercession whilst he was alive” are we saying the prophet is dead ? From what I understand the prophet has left this world but still alive
The Prophet ﷺ is physically dead, as we all will be. But of course the soul remains alive. So we don't ask for intercession from the dead, this can be understood in how the companions asked for intercession from the Prophet ﷺ whilst he was alive, but once he passed away the companions asked for the uncle of the prophet to do dua to Allah swt for it to rain during a drought.
Jazak Allah khairan
Ibn Taymiyyah was a gifted jurist, but that's it. He was sorely lacking knowledge in many other areas. He was imprisoned because of his heretical anthropomorphic descriptions of Allah - telling that.
And as society has changed greatly since ibn Taymiyyah's time, it is more beneficial to follow a scholar more in tuned with present practices and realities rather than fixating on a past reality that does not exist any longer.
It would also benefit yourself, Paul, if you explored the sunnah more deeply than constantly falling back on certain personalities.
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@Google Account Astaghfirullah is correct. You cannot go to ibn Taymiyyah and ask his opinion about whether modern international banking is halal or not because he is dead. Nor can you glean from his books anything because that institution did not exist in his lifetime.
My comment is urging one to seek timely guidance from a modern, living scholar in matters of religion rather than stupidly following a relic of the past, like ibn Taymiyyah, whose rulings and concerns were based on his time. Ibn Taymiyyah is not a prophet, nor are his opinions inspired. He was deeply flawed in some aspects of his understanding of Islam. Ignoring that, as so many do, is to deify the man - and that is shirk.
It is through honest study that Islamic scholars today can sift through the work of past scholarship, understand the context, shortcomings, and strengths, to provide beneficial guidance to our lives today. That in no way implies disrespect of past scholars or ignoring the sunnah.
To suggest that we learn the sunnah through ibn Taymiyyah's commentary is to put the cart before the horse. It is better to examine ibn Taymiyyah through the sunnah, accepting the good and leaving the bad - rather than making the sin of putting ibn Taymiyyah on par with the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him.
Your comment implies you have no real knowledge of how traditional Islamic sciences are taught, or what qualifications merit one the title of faqih, qadi, mufti, or any of the other titles of Islamic scholars.
@@ajnasreddin antomorphism sahaba were antomorphism
You jahmi
@@dontinsultme4821 ???
@Google Account Ameen
Ibn Tayymiya was a Great schoolar no doubt. But we should remember that he was not generally accepted in his time, and was quite controversial amongst the ulema.
"But we should remember that he was not generally accepted in his time, and was quite controversial amongst the ulema"
Because "the ulema" differ from time to time due to political reasons. Almost every sect became dominate in specific time and suppressed other groups.
So, you can't "Cherry pick" a group of scholars from specific time and make such a generalization.
What you can do is to return to the "original sources" from the first 3 generations and make comparisons between him and his opponents.
@@WaleedAlbaz inn Taymiya became well know with Muhammed ibn Abdulwahab, and the Saudi state, since they claim to follow ibn Taymiyah. But before that he wasnt that much read. So it is not just when he lived but hundrrds of years after he died also he was seen as non-mainstream
You don't need to be a genius to know why, just check the the creed of the religious institutions and schools across all these centuries (i.e: the authority!).
I mean, you know that he got prisoned many times and he was literally threaten to be killed, so who will dare to give his opinion freely after that?
"he was seen as non-mainstream"
Again, according to what? to the first 3 generations (whose their books exist and we can check them easily) or to according to specific time you choose it for ideological reasons?
I can pick specific time in history where the Muʿtazila is the so called mainstream!
@@WaleedAlbaz dude these are devaints mu'tazila
@@nahumhabte6210 Imam Ibn Hanbal wasn't accepted during his time and he is the teacher of Imam Bhukari, does that make him wrong as well? No!!!
Why do people read Imam Bhukari? Make the truth known!
The book:
IBN TEYMIYYA by John Hoover. (Professor in Islamic studies University of Nottingham)
Please invite scholars like Shaik Humza Yusuf and Shaik Asrar Rashid, i think it would be fair to give them a chance to discuss this topic. Hearing both sides of the argument can help us all learn and grow InshaAllah.
Meh
One is a sufi maliki one is ashari
@@Ajsbdbxh both are amazing scholars brother. Please watch a few Shaik Asrar videos, he is brilliant.
@@muhammadc8224 brother i know he an amazing person but he agrees with invoking Prophet ( peace be upon him )
Islam, Qur'an and Sunnah and Shari'ah were all well before, approximately 600 years before ibn e taymiyyah, hanbali
And
@@TazImahc and people need to stop referring to only him and putting him as the great master of reviving the way of the sahabs when in fact the ummah was following the way of sahaba way before him
And there’s hundreds of scholars to take from and quote
But salafi have ibn tamiyyah and abdulwahab kitabul tawheed and that’s it
@@artarak497 do you think paul should take the video down?
@@TazImahc no but it’s unfair to only use him on almost every single vidéo as a reference when there’s thousands of better scholars than him
Bring some variety
Tired of seeing ibn tamyyia and Abdul wahab point of view every where
Without nuance or challenge
Yes. Please follow sunnah and stop following made up things sufies do. 🌹
usually in a certain masjid in a certain country they make an event in the masjid yearly to celebrate mawlid by inviting ulama or the ustaz to give a preach about the life of our beloved prophet Muhammad s.a.w. and for me i dont have any problem to attend this mawlid it made me refresh back my knowledge .....if ibn taymiyya still alive and enter to this event you think he will stop them and say this event is innovation and this event is haram?..i agree it is haram if someone celebrate mawlid like they celebrate christmas...well for those who believe it is haram to celebrate mawlid just dont enter the masjid for that particular time until the event end...
Thanks for discussing such the most understood figure like Syaikhul Islam Ibnu Taimiyah. The nuances is so eyes opening.
We are commanded only to follow the Sahaba's, tabaein and taba tabein, if they didn't celebrate mawlid, we don't either, simple.
In india people who don't celebrate mawlid are called Iblis, by muslims who do.
In India they call those who follow Quran 6:162 as iblis? Wallahi these kind would be calling jibraeel as Satan, what evil enemies and criminals they are.
As-salamu Alaykum, i make Islamic calligraphies, i invite you to see them, Jazak Allahu Khayr
In that, i agree with you.
Shabina Naaz - and those ewho don't celebrate mawlid refer to those who do as mushrik. Sooo...problems on both sides.
@@ConsiderThis12 because it is an innovative, can't deny that.
Salaam brother Paul. Masha Allah your channel crossed 100k subscribers. Great majority of ulama and schoolers of ahle sunnah Wal jamat disagree with Ibn Taymiah's views as you mentioned
Scholars who disagree with ibn Taimya work for Sissi and Saudis, they have political agendas to follow, True scholars are in Prisons.
"Great majority of ulama and schoolers of ahle sunnah Wal jamat disagree with Ibn Taymiah's views"
That depends on where you draw the line, because "Great majority of ulama and schoolers" differ from time to time for a political reasons.
But if you talking about the first 3 generations this is another story.
As-salamu Alaykum everyone, i make Islamic calligraphies, i invite you to see them, Jazak Allahu Khayr
Salaam Abdur Rahim,
Ibn Taymiah is a controversial figure for seekers of the Deen. Just stay away. Sprouts of deviation come from his teachings. We all should stick to the overwhelming majority of the ASWJ :)
@@ighfirlee , Dont mislead people, nobody here want to follow Sissi and Saudis...keep your advice for you.
Very nice video and perspective right here!
As a revert from Christianity to islam, I can see the celebration of the prophet SAW’s birthday being problematic. Perhaps early Christians started off celebrating Jesus in that way and overtime it morphed into worship. I even read one commentary that some of the idols they worshipped in Mecca started as statues of important people that morphed into worship overtime.
All that being said - I don’t claim to know more than scholars or learned Muslims and I don’t know enough on the matter to say anything in absolute terms
Perhaps you should also discuss the majority mainstream Sunni scholars who were critical of Ibn Taymiyya, Ibn Abdul Wahhab and salafism. Your videos on Islam itself rather than Christianity are a tad skewed. Ibn Taymiyya was a towering scholar but his is not the only understanding of the religion.
Ibn Taymiyya made many mistakes, especially in matters of creed, not only that he presented himself as a Mujtahid which he has not, Ibn Taymiyya has been refuted by many Sunni scholars & he is Not an authority in Islamic creedal matters.
As for celebrating/commemorating the blessed birth, evidence is found for this from The Qur'an & Hadith and is evident from the writings of classical Islamic scholars who are authorities in Islamic law & creed. Imam as-Suyuti in his book, 'Al-Hawi lil Fatawi' writes a full chapter on the validity of The Blessed Mawlid providing evidences from the primary Islamic sources.
Not just imam As Suyuti, but also the Sheikh of imam An Nawawi rahimahullah (an ash'ari muhaddith), and dozens of others but i forget them. And also, hafidh ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullah actually legitimated the Mawlid, tell about that to hanbalis scholars like shaykh Yussuf ibn Siddiq or shaykh Muhammad ibn 'Abdulwahid, there is only wahhabis and some sunnis who make mistake, who think that hafidh illegitimated the Mawlid and tells about him that he is haram, w'ALLAHU a'lam.
@@jundullah9869 I agree, and not one classical Sunni scholar ever wrote against celebrating The Mawlid, apart from the Wahabis, Deobandhi's also have written & spoken against celebrating The Blessed Mawlid.
You guys 😄 every great scholar isn't a Mujahid in your sofi eyes
@@حمزة_97 he just quoted the documented history of events, not the prop aganda storyline of ksa cultist salafi wahabi
I love Sheikhul Islam and I feel very fortunate to be connected to him via unbroken academic lineages, however when it comes to tawassul and mawlid I’m with the mass body of ulama including the majority of the Hanabila. He is a genius and his student Ibn Al-Qayyim is a master of correct authentic tasawwuf. He is highly misunderstood and misquoted. May Allah have mercy upon him Aameen.
how can ibn Tejmije allow or forbid please tell me
God question
Mawlid is not the way to show love towards prophet pbuh you should follow the teachings of him... sahaba, tabaeen and tabbe tabaeen did not celebrated then why should we celebrate?
Agree
Agree
@Mosaab نعم هو
It's a pagan tradition by the way
True. It is innovation.
@Mosaab نعم هو
Yes it is
Call me whatever u want. But in my experience, when u visit the shrine of a real Saint and ask Allah with their intercession, you get exactly what you ask for. Death isnt end of life.
That’s what the pagan Arabs used to say about the idols , they only brings us close to God
Neither does quran says that death is the end of life and trusting Allah only is better than getting what we want because Allah knows best. And intercession will only be granted to the prophet saw on the day of judgement by Allah's permission.
Why would you need a interessor when Allah s.w.t does not put one between yourself and him? I understand what you are saying but I ask you to reconsider.
Allah knows best.
Absolutely, Tawasul is a valid Islamic concept along with Istigatha, both are proven from Islamic sources.
The pagans get exactly what they want too, it's called the law of attraction.
Simply put, Ibn Taymiyah says: Allah clearly says in Quran and his prophet clearly says in sound hadeeths so and so and we should follow them.
While innovators say: our predecessors says and did so and so and we should follow them and they look for a fabricated or weak hadeeth to support their arguemant.
Ibn Taymiyya was a great scholar...but he and the Wahabi clerics are not right about mawlid and grave visiting. Their opinion are not of majority Muslims scholar of the past and of today. It is a stray ideology.
And in Islam, you always follow the bigger majority. I suggest you seek out Sheikh Hamza Yusuf to learn more about Islam and Mawlids.
Simple question to Mawlid people: Why do you celebrate the death of our Prophet صلي الله عليه ويلم.?
Mourn not celebrate? Because we hold the Prophet(saws) in high regard and Love him. When your mum or dad dies, why don't you do nothing, neither should you shed a single tear.
No one does that. And the date of passing away is not the 12th of Rabi al-Awwal. And even if it were the date the Sacred Law has prohibited us from mourning more than three days after the demise of a person. The time period for rejoicing and being grateful on the other hand has not been specified and are thus limitless.
I don't really care what İbn Taymiyyah has to say. I care about what Islam has to say. The Sunni consensus is that mawlid is a biddah hasanat. A very positive innovation, suited for a time when people are forgetful of the prophet and his life.
Consensus? Are you sure?
Did the prophet do it?
Did sahaba do it?
Did any of the great scholars do it?
No, no, and no.
Rafidi fatimids made it up, and you consumed the biddah and trash great men like ibin taymeyah for the sake of rafidi fattimids innovations.
@@huntsman2877 consensus of ahlul sunnah wal jamaah for hundreds of years and still to this day
@@artarak497 great. Can you please provide me with a sahabi saying mawlid is good. Or imam Malik, Imam ahmad bin hanbal, or bukari
Unless your consensus doesn't include these great men.
@@huntsman2877
True comment 😃
Imam Abu Hanifa did not celebrate
Mawlid .
The great Muslims after the death of prophet Muhammad s.a.w..did not celebrate birthdays.
The Fatimids Shia in Egypt in the year 1100 invented Mawlid.
They copied the Christians.
Ibn Tiymiyyah has said that the Sunnah ( Tradition ) is something that has happened or has NOT happened in the time of Prophet Muhammad.
I think im in line with Ibn Taymiyya view in this case. Ty paul for sharing. Salam, jazakallah Khair
Thanks!
Never seen a comment like this. Did you just donate through a yt comment? 🤣
@@MuhaRAW this guy just made innovation 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@MuhaRAW Yes a donation to help the channel that I learn so much from
@@roubanashabe3490 may Allah Reward you
@@bluelightmoon777 Girl not guy, I'm Lebanese raised in a western country can't read Arabic so I learn a lot from Paul may Allah bless him
Much needed nuances in the rivers of low literacy (in general inc the deen) ! Imagine what will happen when these nuanced understandings become mainstream - the extreme salafis and sufis will run back to the hills and ahl sunnah will return (insha'Allah)!
I do not exactly know which group you intend with the labeling" extreme salafis " but this nuanced understanding from Ibnu Taimiyya is in fact the mainstream opinion of the contemporary salafi scholars. The mainstream opinion according to almost all salafi scholars is that acts of innovation/ bid'a performed by laymen Muslims who are ignorant about the fact that those acts of worship are innovations are REWARDED FOR THEIR GOOD INTENTION . THE ACT ITSELF IS REJECTED BUT NOT THE INTENTION as it is not conform the Sunnah as the prophet- sallallahu alayhi wa sallam- said .
A minority only said that they do not know that those good intentions will be rewarded but they agree that ignorant laymen Muslim will not be held accountable for their innovations as long as nobody made clear to them and explained them that those acts are innovations.
Deobani?
@@dannydebruin4090 Bidaa is divided into two types:
Good bida
Bad bida
@@omark7164 there's no such thing as Good bida
@@jasonharris351 Yes there is. The proof for this is the Hadith in sahih Muslim “من سن في الاسلام سنة حسنة"
Furthermore al Bayhaqi has mentioned in his book “Manaqib al Shafi” that imam al Shafi divided bida into two types (good and bad).
Same goes for many many other major ulama, such as as Subki, an Nawawi and Ibn Hajar al Asqalani
Which scholar do you have on your side?
You just misinterpret ahadith all day and blind follow ibn Taymiyyah.
To celebrate the birth of our prophet (saw) , one needs to fast as the prophet saw , did , Visiting the deceased is to ask forgiveness for the deceased as the deceased are in need of our duas and supplication however we are not in need of theirs as they are helpless , also it's a reminder of our destination to correct our lives
Some scholars like Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani stated that Ibn Taymiyya's was a controversial figure, some saw him as scholar while others considered him a hypocrite because he slandered Ali Ibn Abi taleb, Othman, Fatima and the household of the prophet. Wahabis nowadays portray him as a flawless figure, and as the greatest scholar that ever existed in history of islam
@muhammad noor Show me where I lied
Fame another ashari
@@Ajsbdbxh even Shâfi'îs said it
The ratio of likes dislikes on your comment and the replies you got proves you are right
@@artarak497 yeah bro, truth is sometimes bitter
The topic of asking for the prophets peace and blessings be upon him intercession:
In the time of the prophet peace and blessings be upon him, the prophet taught the tuwassal Salah to a Sahaba RadiyAllahu anh - who's eyesight was cured from this.
This same tuwasul was taught to a tabieen, (after the prophet peace and blessings be upon him left this world) to which he practiced it and also cured his eyesight.
Furthermore, how is it logical for the prophet peace and blessings be upon him to teach the Sahaba tuwasul but to disallow it for the rest of the ummah?
There was no condition set at the time of teaching the tuwasul to the Sahaba that it was not allowed for the rest of the ummah.
In addition the prophet peace and blessings be upon him knew his teachings would be passed on for generations.
I already read that book cover to cover.... Its the most neutral academic analysis about ibn taymiyya .....not like some apologetic pro Salafi or pro Ashaari Muslim scholars.... Even though coming from a non Muslim western academic...
I think he is a muslim now
"Neutral" from a Christian? Ok then. How exactly are the Salafis apologetic? They are on the same manhaj as Ibn Taymiyyah. 🤦
May Allah reward you brother
I came from Darkness into light. The light of Islam.
Taking the Qur'an as my guide and following in the footsteps of our beloved (S.A.W)
As celebrating Birthdays. We celebrate life of another year.
I love our beloved Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W ) in his way of life .
Many people will follow Pop Idol's in the form the way they dress with brand names.
Allah says: send SALAAM to my beloved Prophet Muhammad.
JazakAllah
The controversial imam timmya writings led to the disastrous revolution in 1917 in saudia and the muslim caliphate was over thrown.As a result muslim world was divided into Wahabis and Sunnies. That is what we r still suffering from.
As-salamu Alaykum, i make Islamic calligraphies, i invite you to see them, Jazak Allahu Khayr
I agree , so sad
@@truthmatter9972 its the opposite of reality, what do you agree with?
?? Jordan rebelled for Filistine promised by uk as turkey filled w/ sufi bida divided so much they reunited on secularism. saudis beat uk backed Jordan & united Arabia. Quran says don't call nicknames. Why say Wahabi when Allah's exclusive name is Al Wahab? Ibn Abd Wahab is of B. Tamim, tribe hard on dajjal in hadith. you are backwards!
@@911amossadvanbomberplotaip9 What do you mean " Ibn Abd Wahab is of B. Tamim, tribe hard on dajjal in hadith" please explain
If you are wondering more about the topic, study about the two types of Bid'ah. Bid'ah Hassanah and Bid'ah Dhalalah. However, mind you that this topic is rather heavy.
May Allah swt give you guidance towards your journey.
Great video