These Mistakes Will Ruin Your Platelet Rich Plasma Treatment!
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2022
- Platelet rich plasma or PRP is such an incredible treatment technique. It uses your own cells, your own platelets, your own growth factors to treat your body. But did you know that there are a lot of variables that could significantly affect the outcomes of your PRP treatment? And many of these variables are things that you can actually control. So in this video, we are going to look at which variables can affect the potential efficacy of PRP in order to optimize for the best outcomes.
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I had this done yesterday and had sever muscle spasms from my legs to my feet for 3 hours because I didn’t drink plenty of water. Please listen to the doctor 😢
So much awesome information!!! You rock!!
I did PRP for my elbow, and the doc said I gave them some of the richest plasma they'd ever seen. Here's why: they asked me to do moderate exercise for 20 minutes prior to drawing by blood. I overdid it. I ran around the block for 15 minutes and then ran up the stairs to the clinic... in a 12 story building. Later I looked it up and apparently moderate exercise increases platelet count but intense exercise increases platelet count even more.
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Is it scientifically proven?
Is it proven that rigorous exercise increases platelet count? I believe so. Is it proven that doing rigorous exercise before a PRP extraction/injection increases treatment effectiveness? I doubt anyone has done a controlled study on something that specific yet. For what it's worth I got my heartrate up to very close to maximum for at least four minutes shortly before my extraction/injection.
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Good info! Next I will do that too
Damn, my problem is in the knee, I won't be able to do that for extra workout
Very usefull video, like all from you doc ! Thank you for sharing. I just started my prp treatment
Good luck!
The severe pain I was in before was excruciating and debilitating if I can’t find a doctor to do it I will try doing it myself before I go back to opioids. I’m a disabled army combat veteran. It may not be a miracle fix it but I for one have had PRP on both knees by one dr and I went from a 8/10 to 10/10 pain and I went to 2/10 pain within 3 weeks then 0/10 pain at 6 weeks. The pain returned at about 18 months and the va had fired the doctor who administered the PRP it as almost 2 years before I found out I could go to a va facility that still offered the PRP’s he did them different he did a dose in both knees about 10ml in each knee and repeated for 1 each month for 3 months then start over at a year. My knee X-ray showed I was no longer bone on bone but rather I had normal space at about 6 months. I’m dreadfully awaiting the return of that pain
Hi great video, and quick question about PRP injection, would the size of the needle used to inject PRP potentially negatively affect the therapy? For instance is there a needle gauge that is too small for optimal PRP injections?
If I have rheumatoid arthritis, would there be any issues with using PRP for my Facet and SI pain?
I'm about to start the QC Kinetix five-part protocol in five days for osteoarthritis of the knee. Do you know anything about this procedure? It's very expensive and I feel quite a gamble, but I'd rather not have surgery. Thank you for your videos. Very helpful and informative.
Hello - I was diagnosed 20 years ago with Lymphoma Follicular.
11 years ago, I had chemo treatment (RCHOP).
Since then the disease has been in remission.
My PLT ( blood test Aug 2023) is 158.
Is this a limitation for getting PRP injection (hip pain in the last 4 years).
Thank you.
I really appreciate these videos.
Should I play in a hockey game the evening before my PRP injection?
Hi Jeffrey, I would like to know what PRP kit (brand) has to be used to harvest the maximum of platelets.
Hi
I had a PRP injection on both sides of my hips It was done on the 19th of February. I am not sure what kind of exercise I can do and what are the precautions I have to follow,I still feel sometimes pain.i am not taking any regular medication.
What to do, please help me.🙏
Thanks for sharing this
You're welcome! Thanks for your comment
Whats your thoughts regarding using activated vs not activating PRP? is it individualised or depending on the problem?
Lot's of debate on this topic, we're still not sure which is better. Pros and cons for both. Will make a video on this in the future.
Dr. Peng? I have been taking Boswellia as a supplement for my arthritis and was wondering whether I should temporarily desist from taking it when I get PRP injections in my knees? Are the Boswellia supplements detrimental to the efficacy of the PRP Injections like NSAIDs are?
Nope, should be fine
I am about to get my first PRP treatment. I have had 2 acl reconstructions in my life on the same knee over the last 25 years. I am now getting my first bouts of arthritis in that knee cap. I am 53 and want to keep active. I currently exercise 5 times per week. The knee is starting to hurt more under the knee cap. After the first injection what should be my protocols in regards to rest and then getting back to exercise slowly. Thx 🙏
Thanks for your comment. Every treatment and post injection protocol should be individualized. Unfortunately I cannot give medical advice over the internet. Please seek the advice of your trusted health care provider. Best of luck!
there is evedience that a certain Trauma protocol (see: Huberman) can elevate the amount of Growth Hormone about 16x inn just one day. --> could it be that it could do the same to the growth factors in the platelets or rather the opposite?
(very important questions in trying to prepare for a PRP procedure)
Can I use PRP with my torn acl?
I have one hip with decreasing range of motion and sometimes pain or limp and gave up basketball. I lift weights and wonder if lifting is too much physical stress on hip for PRP to work. Routine includes up to 30 reps of: Leg press (540 lbs), hip adductors & abductors (240 lbs), knee extension (240), knee curl (150), back extension (240), and abs (240). How much stress is safe for joints? (I have appointment with Doc in 2 weeks to discuss PRP.)
Im undergoing prp right now, my doc told me not to do heavy lifting for a while, but more moderate cardio on a stationary bike, ill wait two or three months ti gi back to weights lifting, hope this help
Thanks for sharing this info !
You didn't mention anything about the potential interaction that caffeine might have with this PRP injection treatment. Is it negligible or is there a potential risk ?
I know that most people see coffee as a normal food , but to my eyes it is a extremely popular and trivialized stimulant that should be set along side alcohol and tobacco.
I'm also interested in an answer or a comment here.
Most important thing is be well hydrated. Coffee will have zero negative effect.
I accidentally took medication called colchicine for a gout flareup. 2 doses of .6 mg 20 hours and 26 hours after my 2nd prp knee injection.
Any problems associated with platelets because of this?
Enjoy your videos and appreciate the info. On this specific video I need to comment on the opinion on Saturated Fat effecting platelets. The is 100% false. I eat a mostly Carnivore diet and eat a lot of saturated fat. I eat zero vegetables and very little fruit. My diet is essentially red meat and eggs with unpasteurized whole dairy. I injured my knee and decided to get PRP, after watching some of your videos. The Doctor commented on how good my blood was because they basically got double the platelets than what is normal. So you might want to rethink the idea that eating saturated fat is bad for your blood.
I'm pretty much doing the same thing too. Mine looked excellent also!
I thought the same thing also when I watched this video.
Just a few thoughts:
1. yes, but as he mentioned: there are several factors influencing the platelet quality and number. --> perhaps you are doing all the other factors right?
2. there's a hack on how to get cholesterol/triglicerides in place: just take a good Omega 3 supplement. I can testify it works, in my case it worked on 2 weeks, i wasnt aiming for that, but just had bloodwork at a distance of 2 weeks, and the only difference inbetween was i started taking Omegas. I was stunned , as my cholesterol was 60% off for a few years straight.
3. did you have your cholesterol measured or are you just assuming it is high due to the diet?
@@avgonyma1 My cholesterol is high because I am healthy. Low cholesterol is a sign of poor health.
How do I find a doctor in my area who does PRP injections?
Does Acetaminophen negatively affect PRP treatment?
How about bracing the treated joint for a period of time? Say your ankle has a torn ATFL, should you immobilize it and not bear any weight on it for how long?
Very case dependent. Instability can benefit from a brief period of immobilization, but eventually you'll want to rehabilitate the muscles to provide that stability. You'll want to discuss this with your health care provider / physical therapist. Thanks for your comment
So insurance is covering part of hip replacement but not this? Doesn't surprise me. The USA medical system is BROKEN!
10000% correct
Do you think that supplementation with alpha lipoic acid should be avoided prior to PRP treatment? I've seen on PubMed that this antioxidant can have anti-platelet and anti-inflammatory effect but so far haven't seen it mentioned anywhere as a thing to be avoided.
A lot of things can have antiplatelet effects, whether that truly impacts outcomes, we're not sure. I think supplements are *probably* okay to continue
Do you need to discontinue all anti-inflammatory substances such as fish, oil and turmeric before and after the procedure?
Not typically. NSAIDs need to be stopped because their mechanism of action is to inhibit platelets.
Just had prp in my shoulder for a slap tear in my labrum. Cracking is better but pain is still there :/ They saw some inflamtion in the rotator cuff as well not just the labrum tear. Might be hiding a small tear in the rotator. It has been 2 months since my injection but i think i till get one in the rotator cuff for good measure in a few months
Can you take blended blueberries 🫐 every day during treatment
What amount of blood recommended to be extracted (60 ml or more) to generate PRP and also what is the recommended billion count to get the best results? Thank you!
60cc, correct for large joints. The X factor of cells they recover is based on the health of the patient.
I'm currently undergoing PRP therapy for my knees. I've been on a whole foods plant based diet for about 4 years. My plasma was super clear, and it has been a real boon in many areas of my health. If I had gotten onto this a decade ago I might not have bad knees.
Wow that's great! Thanks for sharing your experiences.
Hi what was the diagnosis of your knees and how are they so far, how many treatments have you had?
Or the therapy might not have been as advanced then.
Are there any studies showing whether being on a blood thinner, such as Eliquis, will impact PRP quality? How long should you suspend taking a blood thinner for a PRP treatment? Thank you for all the information!
Most blood thinners that are not NSAIDs should not affect PRP as those medications work through a different mechanism.
@@JeffreyPengMD thank you!
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This is exactly what I'm concerned about I am on eliquis I don't believe that I am a candidate PRP.
hello sir
how should i know about the quality of prp and what is different between german prp turkey
every clinic says our prp good
@@mohammadmaiwand5034 the PRP is done from your body.
I have low bp and migraine problem , which precautions should i take for better results of prp
Best to discuss with your health care provider, good luck
Can you take creatine before prp?
Oméga 3 fish oil will it affect prp ?
Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
I wonder about something… How does the age affect the quality of your plasma?
The young people (let say 20-30) recover faster than older people (let’s compare with 80 years old). Does it mean the plasma of the older people is not as powerful as by the young ones? Will the PRP or PRF treatment on the older person be less effective, as the harvested PRP gets less potent with age?
Would love to know this! Thank you
In theory, yes probably.
@@JeffreyPengMD- Thank you for replying, I appreciate it.
If this theory would be right - do you think the older patients would benefit more from the skin boosters than from PRF for the skin rejuvenation?
When we look at the "spin" in the buoy we can see healthy and unhealthy specimens, so yes
when you say the outcome would be negatively affected, does it mean the prp treatment would not have an effect or does that mean the arthritis would be worse after the injection than before? Thanks for your videos, they are very scientific and informative, very helpful.
im sure he means less effective. its all about the number of platelets and that they havents been activated yet, if i understand corretcly.
Agreed @@avgonyma1
Is PRP for shoulder impingement more painful than a cortisone shot? I have bursitis in my shoulders and am considering PRP. I'm afraid of the pain after too.
Nope, it shouldn't be! The approach to inject the subacromial subdeltoid bursa is the same regardless of what is in the syringe / what is being injected. Usually if shoulder injections are done ultrasound guided, there is minimal pain and discomfort.
@@JeffreyPengMD subsacromial subdeltoid bursa is the same location as subacromial bursa(on top and front of shoulder)?
I am also curious if prp/stem cell has found beneficial for treatment of capsular ligament laxity in shoulder?
My surgeon wants to remove part of the meniscus. Please let me know what your thoughts are.
I'm pretty strong but the pain on my 😢shoulder was severe i cried screamed so loud but now 3 day out my hand feels better waiting on the shoulder to feel better.
It’s painful at the time of injection but not as bad as people make it seem!! Breathe through it, take Tylenol if you can; use a squeeze stress ball in the other arm’s hand to distract from the injection. One moment of discomfort for exponential pain relief in the weeks that follow (I had it done on shoulder bursitis and super changed my life for the better!!) wish you the best xx
Is it safe to go to the sauna after PRP? Thnx for your great informative videos!
No u cant
@@cocolee8396 for how long you can’t go? They didn’t tell me. Also sports after PRP seems to be hurting the effect. I didn’t play sports for two weeks.
@@VTVT1306 16 hours
Will taking single dose of nsaid destroy prp results?
I do prp for my hidrinities in bikini area it's helps alot but is it safe if a bit of my blood gets mixed in I did treatment today when they tried to get rich plasma today but this is my own blood is it safe ?
How much does it cost ??? Thank you 😊 🙏😌
It depends on where you live! Prices vary WIDELY.
How would biologic drugs like humira and methotrexate effect prp efficacy?
Unfortunately we don't know.
I completed 3prp injection yesterday I had meniscus tear and cartilage is 0.88mm in my right knee, How many days I have rest to running practice because national celection are there ,plz reply this messages
Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately I cannot give medical advice over the internet. Please seek the advice of your trusted health care provider. Best of luck!
How are you now after 3 shots of injections? Did cartilage regeneration happened?
Hello. I have the same conditions. I strated the treatment yesterday and I'm really worried about the outcome after the 3rd injection. Would you please tell me about your experience and how do you feel right now?
PRP will not regenerate or regrow your cartilage. Will help inflammation and lessen wear in some cases.
Should I stop taking colchicine for my. Gout?
Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately I cannot give medical advice over the internet. Please seek the advice of your trusted health care provider. Best of luck!
Hi Doc, how frequent can I get an PRP injection?
As often as you need them, it’s your own cells! That’s the beauty of prp
What about prf ? Same frequency?
Does bio identical HRT affect PRP?
could cause elevated H&H numbers. Ask Dr first.
Good video
Thanks!
I’ve been on a ketogenic diet for over a year. Will this create a problem for PRP injection?
What effect does weed have on platelets?
Tryna figure this out Fr
makes em slow...
Can the use of a TENS after PRP knee injections help to improve the results?
I wish I could find someone to do PRP on me. I know it works for a fact
Thank s
No problem!
Lemonade reduces fat in blood. Peanut butter increases protein.
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Thanks for your comment!
Some of this advice is good and important, some is not. First, nobody should be eating a plant based diet; it's highly inflammatory, and DASH diet? Really? Second, High cholesterol is vastly different than high triglycerides. For example I have high cholesterol due to eating an animal based diet (mostly meat), but my triglycerides are nice and low (because I don't consume many carbs). I like your videos but this one is a bit of a miss.
If you’re not a doctor of nutritionist shut up
I had the exact same response - this doctor has been a great source of information regarding his field of specialty; however, I agree that he is way off on diet and has conflated high trigs (which create cloudy blood) with saturated fat, which does not. It will be many years before the science of low-carb hits mainstream medicine.