think of the thousands of miles of lines that could have been kept running if these were viable in the 60s. would be a good idea for councils to run these of heritage lines in the off seasons, reintroduce those lines as proper public transport links.
I was wondering if they could use a modern version of this on the old Maldon to Witham branch line, reconnecting the two towns after decades of lack of mass transit between them. Modern PPM's have a design provision to connect together.
8:27 Does she really need to say Platform 1? There is only one platform there! She could have said "The next train will be the (insert time here) London Midland Service to Stourbridge Junction. Calling at Stourbridge Junction only."
Its the way things work... all done to a brain-dead script which requires everything to be done as similarly as possible, rather than applying logical thought.
@Trainbrain1949 Only the first one - the version in Stourbridge is most certainly 'for real' as a serious form of transport. OK, the concept could be used at amusement parks as a form of transport within the site, but with the coming financial cuts (after the election on 6th May... a few days from now) it could also save some branch lines from closure. Its THAT important, in my opinion. Simon
I'm sure this is unlikely to prevent the closure of any branch lines as most of the costs still exist regardless of what motive power is used. It could have uses though, maybe by providing transit between a park and ride facility and city centre for example. Triuble is it's limited capacity would let it down. Really I can't see much practical use for this vehicle regardless of how environmentally friendly it is.
@patrickov Until the local government changes of 1965 Barking was a town in Essex. Although the political administration has changed the postal address is still 'Essex'. Even now the E4 postal area is partially outside the London political area (its in Essex) and the London telephone code area is very different to the political area. Also, Surrey County Council is still in Kingston Upon Thames, even though K-U-T is no longer within the area it administers.
We used to have one by Bristol Floating Harbour. Alas it is easy to show it is impractical. The flywheel is subsonic, must be of smaller diameter than the width of the vehicle and must be only a fraction of vehicle mass. It needs a really efficient CVT to extract maximum energy from it. No amount of development can surmount these obstacles. It remains a toy for self-professed eco enthusiasts.
Indeed. This is one of those "too complicated, too late" technologies. Current advances in electric motors have made it that even a version with an electrically powered vacuum flywheel (as opposed to just using batteries) is less complicated, cheaper and lighter than this.
I know... lights are always full-on. When I was a boy the guards did switch the lighting off on sunny days when travelling on open air sections of railway. I recall this even on short station to station journeys such as Leyton - Leytonstone on the Central Line. There was one occasion however when the guard was a little late in switching the lights on again it was only after the part of the train I was travelling in had entered the tunnel that they came on. (I was at the front of the train and guard at the back)
I think the vehicle had operated there - I cannot imagine that Centro funded the Barking trials. Of course I could be wrong, and would be very surprised if I am.
That first one was definitely on it’s way to the Land of Make Believe to pick up King Friday. The Stourbridge one is basically a shuttle bus on rails, but it’s well used.
If sending a letter you put Essex just before the postcode - not London! London's political area is not the same as its postal counties, nor its telephone dialing code areas, etc!
4:33 - I like how people reinventing heavyweight flywheel diesel engine bus nowadays. Speaks really for ecoboost urine-splash tractors having no torque to push a 3-car dmu anymore. I'd say, bring on a Lister anytime, i'd vote for ya.
If trains were cars Class 390 / VW GOLF GTI most recognisable Class 221 / BMW 3 series or Lambo Murcielago cause it haves the same shape of lights Class 139/fiat multipla or Smart roadster Class 55 Aston Martin DB5 Class 37 Rolls Royce Class 43 Aston Martin Virage & Class 158 vuaxhall Cora’s
It would be interesting to see this developed to something larger, heavier and faster for longer journeys.
to be honest I am surprised [and sad] that this has not yet happened (summer 2020)
Great idea to preserve branch lines! We need it in Poland , thumb up!
Railway trams are introduces already on Polish branch lines, but most of them diesel fueled and twice as big.
It's kinda like a nice version of a pacer
A cute version
@@MatthewK421 one day the PPM Class 139 grows up and becomes a Class 144
It's like a pacer, but they used a Fiat Multipla instead of a bus
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3:19 that one is like a mini tram!
Looks like an amusement park ride!
think of the thousands of miles of lines that could have been kept running if these were viable in the 60s.
would be a good idea for councils to run these of heritage lines in the off seasons, reintroduce those lines as proper public transport links.
I was wondering if they could use a modern version of this on the old Maldon to Witham branch line, reconnecting the two towns after decades of lack of mass transit between them. Modern PPM's have a design provision to connect together.
I live near Stourbridge and it’s really quite rickety
Nice video. Great Tram
MISTER PAUL KENNETH HAMMOND MALE, HUMAN, PERSON'S "ELECTRIC RAIL TRAM'S". "RAILWAY'S, TRAMWAY'S".
8:27 Does she really need to say Platform 1? There is only one platform there! She could have said "The next train will be the (insert time here) London Midland Service to Stourbridge Junction. Calling at Stourbridge Junction only."
Its the way things work... all done to a brain-dead script which requires everything to be done as similarly as possible, rather than applying logical thought.
citytransportinfo Having a standard script is very useful to tourists with a poor grasp of English. I find the standard scripts helpful in France.
For an adult, it is really cheap at 80p a ticket single, return, £1.70 (dont know how that one works out :/) and half the price for kids.
Fab! I hope it takes off!
@Trainbrain1949 Only the first one - the version in Stourbridge is most certainly 'for real' as a serious form of transport.
OK, the concept could be used at amusement parks as a form of transport within the site, but with the coming financial cuts (after the election on 6th May... a few days from now) it could also save some branch lines from closure.
Its THAT important, in my opinion.
Simon
I'm sure this is unlikely to prevent the closure of any branch lines as most of the costs still exist regardless of what motive power is used. It could have uses though, maybe by providing transit between a park and ride facility and city centre for example. Triuble is it's limited capacity would let it down. Really I can't see much practical use for this vehicle regardless of how environmentally friendly it is.
Nice idea, suspension seems a bit basic though!
@patrickov
Until the local government changes of 1965 Barking was a town in Essex. Although the political administration has changed the postal address is still 'Essex'.
Even now the E4 postal area is partially outside the London political area (its in Essex) and the London telephone code area is very different to the political area.
Also, Surrey County Council is still in Kingston Upon Thames, even though K-U-T is no longer within the area it administers.
well hello words i dont even understand
We used to have one by Bristol Floating Harbour. Alas it is easy to show it is impractical. The flywheel is subsonic, must be of smaller diameter than the width of the vehicle and must be only a fraction of vehicle mass. It needs a really efficient CVT to extract maximum energy from it. No amount of development can surmount these obstacles. It remains a toy for self-professed eco enthusiasts.
Indeed. This is one of those "too complicated, too late" technologies. Current advances in electric motors have made it that even a version with an electrically powered vacuum flywheel (as opposed to just using batteries) is less complicated, cheaper and lighter than this.
great video!
sorry, I have no idea. I live in the London area and only went there the once - to see the Parry trains.
What happened to only switching on lighting when it is actually required? Brilliant sunshine, no tunnels but lights on full!
I know... lights are always full-on.
When I was a boy the guards did switch the lighting off on sunny days when travelling on open air sections of railway. I recall this even on short station to station journeys such as Leyton - Leytonstone on the Central Line. There was one occasion however when the guard was a little late in switching the lights on again it was only after the part of the train I was travelling in had entered the tunnel that they came on. (I was at the front of the train and guard at the back)
"Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site." (C)
Just like going on a bus for a 4 minute journey in Stourbridge.
These need to run in the US
I Call the Class 139 PPM a Mini Pacer
LCD1 Cameron the 139 suffers from the only place it runs having really bad track that all
I find it interesting the Barking version was sponsored by Centro - the West Midlands Passenger Transport Authority...
I think the vehicle had operated there - I cannot imagine that Centro funded the Barking trials. Of course I could be wrong, and would be very surprised if I am.
does the one in himley park still run?
What's with the driver constantly pumping the throttle?
They still need to fix that speaker at stourbridge town
they do not understand how such little things as a speaker that is a problem reflects badly on the whole system
That’s excellent
City of Hamilton in the Dominion of Canada will need this for the BLAST Network
Longer versions of these and each one will have a 1st Class Car
+Alexander Ip
So are these definitely going to be used in Canada?
Can you share a weblink with more information, please?
+citytransportinfo Not Yet
Just a Suggestion for Hamilton If I Could Contact the Mayor about this
They are using more traditional overhead catenary powered trams
oh I want one! but idk how much it is lol
How cute. Looks like Mr. Rogers neighborhood. Does it come with a hand crank?
+GVM4763 GVM4763
LOL, I have no idea about the hand crank, maybe this is possible.
In the past people have described this as a "clockwork" tram.
That first one was definitely on it’s way to the Land of Make Believe to pick up King Friday.
The Stourbridge one is basically a shuttle bus on rails, but it’s well used.
I Operated one At The Bristol Harbour Railway Great fun To Drive
You Are The Moron And An ASSHOLE Have you worked For Parry People Movers .
... they had a lot of problems with the bearings on the flywheel... if I will cause the actual unit to be way too heavy... Nice idea but impractical
@lexiskramer229a
That depends on whether your smartphone allows you to watch UA-cam films!
Can you Imagine them o the ECML
What's a flywheel?
By "Barking, Essex", do you mean the Barking currently (and probably then) in Greater London?
Why didn't they keep those trams in barking?
it was only a temporary demonstration system
How much is a single
Barking's in London, not Essex.
If sending a letter you put Essex just before the postcode - not London!
London's political area is not the same as its postal counties, nor its telephone dialing code areas, etc!
They should be running at 30mph minimum speed as they must be capable of that speed if they was derestricted! As 20mph is like a slug crawling lol 😆
I agree that 20 mph is diabolically slow but the track would need improving before any higher speeds are allowed - its *that* bad!
4:33 - I like how people reinventing heavyweight flywheel diesel engine bus nowadays. Speaks really for ecoboost urine-splash tractors having no torque to push a 3-car dmu anymore.
I'd say, bring on a Lister anytime, i'd vote for ya.
i live at stourbidge
MISTER PAUL KENNETH HAMMOND MALE, HUMAN, PERSON'S "ELECTRIC RAIL CAR'S, RAIL BUSES".
eh?
Give me an old fashioned bubble car any day instead of these ridiculous looking Parry People Mover things.
If trains were cars
Class 390 / VW GOLF GTI most recognisable
Class 221 / BMW 3 series or Lambo Murcielago cause it haves the same shape of lights
Class 139/fiat multipla or Smart roadster
Class 55 Aston Martin DB5
Class 37 Rolls Royce
Class 43 Aston Martin Virage
& Class 158 vuaxhall Cora’s
Class 143/AMC Pacer. Seriously
It’s just... odd.
distinctive, unusual, a good idea for this service!
What's a flywheel?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flywheel