A Murder at the End of the World | Episode 5 Breakdown, Recap, & Theories

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  • @TheorySmack
    @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +10

    What did you guys think of this episode? I felt like it was the best so far!

  • @doremifasolalalaland
    @doremifasolalalaland 11 місяців тому +35

    OKAY APPRECIATE YOU - you're one of the only ones posting about this and talking about the show in depth!

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +3

      And I appreciate YOU for being here, watching, and commenting!

    • @doremifasolalalaland
      @doremifasolalalaland 11 місяців тому +3

      @@TheorySmack you earned my sub!

    • @brandonhicks9926
      @brandonhicks9926 11 місяців тому

      This guy and Double P Media are doing the best job with this show. Definitely check out Double P Media as well

    • @Midnightmunchies0420
      @Midnightmunchies0420 11 місяців тому

      I agree!

  • @JenJen-bp3bb
    @JenJen-bp3bb 11 місяців тому +11

    For me, her vomitting was in reaction to realising, if Andy was sterile, that Andy is aware that Lees been lying to him for over 5 yrs about her pregnancy with Zoomer. Why the heck do they baby him so much? Always carrying him and feeding him? Hes special though. Maybe Zoomer is the one thats sick and requires a medical suite?

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +2

      I think there’s definitely more to zoomer than we know

  • @lunacascade1125
    @lunacascade1125 11 місяців тому +15

    I think the fact that Andy is sterile is important because I too think Lee's pregnant. As is Andy sick or is he just trying to extend his life? Also the one member of the group we know very little about is the filmmaker. Wonder why that is? This show led me to subscribe to your channel. So glad you're covering this show.

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +2

      Thanks for being here!
      And yes, Martin is flying under the radar and I feel like that has to change soon.
      We’ll see!

    • @JenJen-bp3bb
      @JenJen-bp3bb 11 місяців тому

      Why do you think she's pregnant? Curious about this theory🙏

  • @arctic_haze
    @arctic_haze 11 місяців тому +9

    I would assume Darby will survive. So someone needs to save her. The silhouette is probably this person. This leaves the question if he had also closed the top of the pool, in the first place.

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, I really didn't talk about this and thought about it afterward.
      It's just obvious to me that she'll survive.

  • @dmiller5765
    @dmiller5765 9 місяців тому +1

    With a killer running around the retreat, would you get into a pool by yourself? Nope, nope nope. Don't go down to the basement!!

  • @agent_ninety9
    @agent_ninety9 11 місяців тому +6

    I watched this episode two times and I also picked up on the amount of times the number 27 comes up, but I don't know its significance either.
    Is Andy really sick? Life extension therapy sounds like a hokie rich person thing. There's no indication of any real illness.
    I thought Lee's reaction was bizarre! Obviously she's not the person that Darby believed she was. She looks capable of killing or hurting someone after that scene imo.
    I know that it's a far stretch, but if I were to say it was anybody right now, I think it's Bill. That Lee and him are planning an escape.That would be impossibile given we saw his deceased body the next day. Or is it?! Also, why would Darby have to be invited for them to flee? I'm also wondering since we're shifting so much from reality to the past if some of this isn't really happening to Darby? Thinking of the hotel scene. Otherwise an excellent episode & chomping at the bit for next week!

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +1

      All very good points/questions. I'm with you, cannot wait for next week!

    • @madona1134
      @madona1134 11 місяців тому +2

      I think, Lee created Andy, just like Andy created Ray. Andy has administrator authorization and can command Ray as no one can, Lee also has some power over Andy (I don't mean wife's authority here:), the moment Darby wants to leave the room and Andy objects, Lee manages to convince Andy to let Darby go. And the way he responds, just gives me chills: "I'd never stop if it wasn't for my wife". I feel some undertone of a grander plan. His story of how he found out about infertility sounds so fake, and Lee's exaggerated reaction, I think she freaked out because learned that Andy has long realized he is not a real human being and it will be much more complicated "to find a way out". And "Life extension therapy"?! I wish :) Is he charging his batteries or running some updates? Looks like he is "sleeping" during these "treatments" or more like connected to "software" manipulating "hardware" killer?

  • @frashon8616
    @frashon8616 11 місяців тому +1

    I think they highlighted addiction quite well with Darby. She literally disconnected from Ray (tech) only to attach to Aderall/weed (Sidenote: What led Bill to get on drugs? Darby said he stopped, but when did he start?). I saw a parallel between her mental breakdown w/ Bill (humanity) and Ray, and unfortunately, I think Bill was right about how she could love him. I think her feeling are more prominent to what she can't see, but knows is there. I think this thought follows the bonfire/saging ceremony quite well; HOWEVER, we only heard her say Bill's name in a flashback, so is he coming back? (hmm). Even if he isn't, I'm POSITIVE somebody isn't dead. Another note, when you mentioned morse code, it made me think of who knew Darby knew it: Rohan, Sian, and Bill (somebody is not dead). An Easter egg I found was when Bill and Darby were driving; there was cigarettes(?) or something w/ the word 'morlino' upside down in the sun visor. I looked it up, and a book called 'Assessing the Quality of Democracy' popped up. A quick summary I read was that it focuses on how to evaluate and improve the quality of new democratic regimes.That would be necessary for the theory, at the bonfire, of an ultra-rich doomsday city. Lastly, I still think Zoomer is AI, Andy referring to himself as software and Bill as hardware, Sian made it sound like Zoomer was a lot more than a child support check to Lee. I also don't think she was throwing up, I think she was dumping something out.

  • @lolsaXx
    @lolsaXx 11 місяців тому +2

    I've heard some people ask "How was the pool water heated when they are conserving power?" Iceland is full of natural hot springs. The water coule easily be piped inside. Iceland has an abundance of geothermal energy they can use to power and heat. There should be no need for them to go cold anywhere. Iceland is full of volcanos and and my question is "how and why would they be building so far underground when here is so much magma under there?" Also "why did Andy choose Iceland?" I wonder if volcanos will play a role at all in this.

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому

      Yeah, I thought they mentioned in episode one that the pools were natural/healing.

  • @lolsaXx
    @lolsaXx 11 місяців тому +4

    I believe Sian killed herself. She said many things that sounded like last words and last advice. David is Argentinian and Lee's other passport is Argentinian so he is definitley in on something. I think Darby's dad is the silver doe serial killer. Either Bill died in the basement and everything happening now is her processing the grief/ is an ai simulation. *OR* her killer dad let them live in the basement, Darby never told anyone, Bill couldn't deal with that so left. Lee is either being held hostage by Andy or knows bad things he's done and his plans she considers bad and wants to take him down. Bill is helping her escape/ expose Andy. Bill is still alive. Lee and maybe Bill are stopping Darby from messing up the plan. I think Bill wanted to let Darby in on it but she turned down going to his room and came too late. When he was dying he said "stay with me" and his smile made me think hes asking her not to leave and go back to the US.
    And "hearts" are constantly mentioned throughout the show. Not to mention Darby Hart's surname.

  • @tpl608
    @tpl608 11 місяців тому +4

    Thomas. In the kitchen. Is that like Col. Mustard in the library with the rope? Lol

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому

      Something like that

    • @the.lilac.handbag
      @the.lilac.handbag 11 місяців тому +1

      This does have an "And Then There Were None" undertone to it.

  • @audinotthecarlmao57
    @audinotthecarlmao57 11 місяців тому +4

    I felt the same way about the lamp scene, I actually took a slow-mo video on my iPhone to try to figure it out 😂I’m no expert but this is what I have, N-N-G (-• -• -•) next word T-I (- ••) I think the first N could actually be an I bc we don’t see the whole flash, it also cuts off so the last letter could also have an additional dash and may just be one letter X. I lean toward it being I-N-G, but I’m unsure about the second part, X would be weird bc in one flash back scene we see an algebra equation on the board “Solve for X”. I know that was long but I’d love to hear if anyone else has tried to decode the first lamp message!

  • @abby9269
    @abby9269 11 місяців тому +5

    okay Martin is the only one we don't know about and I think that may be because, 1- we're about to find out more about him, 2- he's going to be killed. OR 3- he's the killer (or being blackmailed) and the writers are trying to throw us off the scent through distraction. I noticed that in episode 1, Martin still has his cell phone, and he uses an an app to say something in Sian's voice. I think Martin, even if he's not the killer, snuck into Darby's room and played that audio message in episode 5(also the masked person had to be a man or someone slightly taller than Darby). also he's one of the only people we know that had a copy of Darby's book(scene from the plane), and when bill was killed, there was a bloody copy of the book laying under a rocking chair that was gone in the next episode when she investigated his body. was that martin's copy, or bill's because he said he had read the book? regardless if Martin is involved, I think he's just a pawn working with or being manipulated by the real killer.

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому

      Yeah…I’ve been thinking about Martin for weeks.
      He’s either completely pointless OR massively important. Lol

    • @user-wy9jx6ue1j
      @user-wy9jx6ue1j 11 місяців тому

      Yeah u right

    • @xizhili6240
      @xizhili6240 11 місяців тому

      If the person sneak into Darby's room had access to the app that Martin was using, wouldn't it make more sense for them to use someone else's voice to mislead Darby?

  • @stephenholmgren405
    @stephenholmgren405 11 місяців тому +1

    The A.I. is the killer, I think. He is in a bipedal humanoid mech built

  • @timothyfarrington5137
    @timothyfarrington5137 11 місяців тому +1

    Love the recap - Well with Lee's other identity reveal would that explain why she couldn't hack the camera feed and asked Darby to do for her

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому

      I'm not subscribing to the idea that Lee isn't actually Lee.
      But, I guess we'll see!

  • @loladiaz3534
    @loladiaz3534 11 місяців тому +1

    i’m enjoying the show and your postings. def subscribed !!!!

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому

      Sweeeet. Thanks for being here!

  • @stephd8922
    @stephd8922 11 місяців тому +5

    Are the past scenes being used for context or will they connect to these murders somehow. My feeling was context. Understanding why she is the way she is, how she fell in love, her desire to solve a case, how it "burns" her as she gets close. I know some people believe the killers are connected but I don't see how that makes sense. Im worried its going to go down a "dont trust AI" sentiment, especially after what Bill said in the desert about phones slowly killing humanity. I feel like this trope has been done before many times but Ray being the killer seems impossible and therefore is a possibility. How I have no clue but its clear it would be with someone else who may or may not be pulling the strings. What is the show trying to tell us ultimately. Is it a story of global warming, of humanity in crisis due to this, is it technology and how far we can push it and the threat it could pose, is it dissecting capitalism and how the super rich control the world. Or is it simply a story about love and family.

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +1

      I'd love for it to be the last one in your list, but too many shows today feel a need to push some other narrative that we've already been fed 1000 times...so, who knows.
      On the past timeline, I think it feels more like two related but separate stories with their own climaxes, both happening in the finale of the season and probably both equally shocking.

    • @stephd8922
      @stephd8922 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@Dizmodo agreed, I think the 2 stories will finish separately on that final episode but I can see merit in the theory that they are more connected than just back story, I just don't see how. It would be bizarre for it to be the same killer. Also agree on your first point, I feel like the other things may be factors but not the key. The thing that I genuinely can't wrap my head around is why did Andy marry Lee. He knows Zoomer is not his child and that she has lied this whole time. I feel like he values loyalty. Its such a strange dynamic though. The passport alludes to her trying to get away but it can't be that simple, it's too obvious for it to be her escaping Andy due to him being controlling. Just a gut feeling she is playing everyone. As if you leave that bag open and out with the passport and the wig.

    • @agent_ninety9
      @agent_ninety9 11 місяців тому +1

      Same! I thought that too. Love & family. No matter how you splice it, isn't that All that matters to each of us in the end? Even if it is a billionaire. Love is the crux of the human existence. I guess we will see can't wait for next week

  • @the.lilac.handbag
    @the.lilac.handbag 11 місяців тому +5

    Great recap and following up on 27 and Morse code! Pool guy looked like Tomas to me. Do you think Sian's infection was accidental due to not sterilizing the skin or sharp implement before the tracheotomy? And did David have a secret cellphone from Ep 2? Martin is flying under the radar and Oliver appears non-threatening, but he can walk. He probably created robotics for his legs to work.

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +2

      I have been wondering about Martin A LOT lately.
      He’s far too quiet and I think he’ll play a bigger role at some point.
      Tomas is a good call on the mystery pool boy.
      Sian’s infection is interesting to me. I can’t imagine she’d have died that fast and I can’t imagine they didn’t have antibiotics there that would treat it. But, I felt in my gut they just wanted to off her and move on, so that’s what I did.

    • @moldyonionz
      @moldyonionz 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@TheorySmackShe said something along the lines of "why do I feel so calm" and smiles, then asks Darby to get water; she ODd on morphine for sure

    • @skyewatson
      @skyewatson 11 місяців тому

      Is there a possibility that Eva gave Sian an OD on morphine before leaving her with Darby?

    • @user-wy9jx6ue1j
      @user-wy9jx6ue1j 11 місяців тому

      ​@@skyewatsonmaype

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому

      @@skyewatsonDefinitely possible...she did seem to die pretty abruptly.

  • @robespinosa1978
    @robespinosa1978 11 місяців тому +3

    Probably unrelated to the number 27, but Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison and Janis Joplin all died at the age of 27.

  • @janmitchell3976
    @janmitchell3976 11 місяців тому +4

    what a good episode

  • @yayoclipz5067
    @yayoclipz5067 11 місяців тому

    GREAT BREAK DOWN. YOU'RE THEORY CRAFTING IS TOP NOTCH.

  • @JosueExplores
    @JosueExplores 11 місяців тому +6

    I think it’s possible there are two killers working together to cover their tracks

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, I think it's likely even more than 2.

  • @annaellebonnec
    @annaellebonnec 11 місяців тому +3

    maybe Bill set all this up for Darby to love hime

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +7

      Wouldn’t it be funny if at the end there’s a big surprise party and everyone is alive again and it was all just a play to win over Darby? Lol

  • @Ri-Lizzie
    @Ri-Lizzie 11 місяців тому +1

    I just binged all 5 episodes because I thought it was movie. So. Much. Better!

  • @KingTrikardos
    @KingTrikardos 11 місяців тому

    Subscribed!
    I have this theory in my mind since Bill's murder. I think that the AI moving some of the characters like chess pieces. It moves them out untill it gets the king. Lee knows about that and trying to stop it.

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому

      Thanks for being here!
      Cannot wait for the next episode…

  • @tpl608
    @tpl608 11 місяців тому +3

    My end of world survival plan is to eat the rich. They are mostly grisal and fat, but hey, food is food. Lol. I think this is the darkest UA-cam comment I have ever made. I'll go sit in the corner. Lol

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому

      Lol, I thought it was funny

  • @francesca8413
    @francesca8413 11 місяців тому +1

    It's likely the killer is more than one person.

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +1

      I’m thinking so based on the future episode descriptions

  • @venicewhiteboy
    @venicewhiteboy 11 місяців тому +4

    27 = 3 x 3 x 3 = 3D triangle = pyramid = OA link??

    • @yayoclipz5067
      @yayoclipz5067 11 місяців тому +2

      Did you see DeepCut's video on how the OA would of ended? Imagine if this youtuber (Dizmodo) and Deepcut did a joint theory video. It would be incredible.

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +1

      Now there’s an idea

    • @bshaddo
      @bshaddo 11 місяців тому +1

      Part of me wonders what Jason Isaacs was busy with when they were making this.

    • @georgehoos8044
      @georgehoos8044 11 місяців тому +1

      5 sided bench around the bonfire. Just like the underground cage and the 5 sided aquarium. Another OA link.

    • @yayoclipz5067
      @yayoclipz5067 11 місяців тому

      @@bshaddo Right! Clive Owen and Jason Isaac feel almost interchangeable by design.

  • @FakeApologize
    @FakeApologize 11 місяців тому +1

    Are you serious? Occam's razor. Lee's vomiting because she didn't know that Zoomer wasn't Andy's son.

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +1

      I’m just saying what other people are saying. I personally didn’t see it as more than her reaction to the situation

  • @dranmarks
    @dranmarks 11 місяців тому

    I havent seen clive owen in a while. I was wondering what happen to him.

  • @tpl608
    @tpl608 11 місяців тому +1

    No kidding. The number 27 means something to me. Lol

    • @user-wy9jx6ue1j
      @user-wy9jx6ue1j 11 місяців тому

      What u mean

    • @tpl608
      @tpl608 11 місяців тому

      @@user-wy9jx6ue1j not sure why you ask? I would think it is enough with just what I wrote. If you advise as to why you are asking, will answer

  • @DavidOcasio-w3z
    @DavidOcasio-w3z 11 місяців тому +1

    The Killer is the AI Ray

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому

      I think that’s too predictable.

    • @ZeeQuTee
      @ZeeQuTee 11 місяців тому

      Him or Zoomer. Or Andy is an AI created by Lee.

  • @yayoclipz5067
    @yayoclipz5067 11 місяців тому

    I don't think so, the common trope of telling an audience a woman is pregnant is vomiting, but this time it's a new immaculate conception with the wise men of the modern society all gathered to witness the birth of a baby of 3 parts. The new baby is Lee's, Bills as well as Davids. The baby has 3 parents just like he said the new AI has three parents.

  • @marianblas165
    @marianblas165 11 місяців тому

    #SaveTheOA

  • @gamesensepro
    @gamesensepro 11 місяців тому

    looks like it was a last episode right ? and darby dies ? thats the end ?

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +1

      Nah, there's two left I believe.
      And Darby is in the episode art, so she'll survive.

  • @Jensen-C
    @Jensen-C 10 місяців тому

    Slightly disappointed you compete skipped over the flash back scenes. This was some of the most moving prices in the entire show

  • @Ri-Lizzie
    @Ri-Lizzie 11 місяців тому +3

    Also, are we going to talk about the “or you’re not going to get bill back” statement? Is he alive!!!?

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +3

      I think it was more like, “Even if you solve this, you won’t get him back”

  • @loladiaz3534
    @loladiaz3534 11 місяців тому +1

    why would Lee has her fake id and wig on her purse ? that was super odd

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, could be a multitude of reasons.

  • @user-wy9jx6ue1j
    @user-wy9jx6ue1j 11 місяців тому +2

    I think martin the killer

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому

      Very possible! Dude has been flying under the radar

  • @debmorton3310
    @debmorton3310 11 місяців тому +1

    Dizmodo - you mentioned an IT mistake and that you noticed it. I worked for years in medical and this is FULL of medical mistakes.
    My only reason for watching this in the first place is Raul Esparza and I hate his character. I don’t really like anyone else in it either (the amount of angst with Bill and Darby is way over the top) but I want to see who the killer is so I guess I’ll keep watching.

    • @TheorySmack
      @TheorySmack  11 місяців тому +1

      Lol. Yeah...as an IT guy I see stuff like this from time to time.
      I can't imagine being a medical professional and watching movies/shows because there seems to be a medical component in almost everything.

  • @SarahWilliams-es9rc
    @SarahWilliams-es9rc 11 місяців тому +1

    I just did a little googling of the number 27 and came across this novel called The Hunt also known as 27 which plot sounds quite familiar….
    “As the world trembles with the approach of World War II, a woman dies at the hands of Hitler's henchmen. Her murder forever changes her lover, Francis Scott Keegan, a relentless anti-Nazi mercenary, who becomes locked in a desperate cat-and-mouse game with the Third Reich's perfect spy, a man of a thousand faces. In an arena that encompasses presidents and gangsters, spies and sirens, the deadly present and the dark past, Keegan pursues his elusive quarry into the cutting edge of world events-and into the secret inner workings of a terrifying mission known only as "27.”

  • @cuneorama
    @cuneorama 11 місяців тому

    My theory is that Ray is the killer.

  • @Orangesorbae
    @Orangesorbae 9 місяців тому

    I know there’s a lot of attention and focus on lying down and rest . What’s up with that?