To avoid the blue residue, don't use the air to blow the contaminated Iso off. Instead tip the board on it's side & just rinse with a little more iso so it is all washed away. _Then_ once all contamination is gone, you can use the air. Source: 20 years of experience repairing avionics boards. Originally, it was a '3 pot system', of X55, ethanol, & freon. But then freon was banned, & then ethanol was deemed too toxic & replaced with isopropyl since it doesn't leave a residue. But with a non conductive paste, I would likely not bother cleaning the socket, since I remember using sub-zero phase change cooling where filling the socket with dielectric grease or non-conductive thermal paste was standard procedure to prevent condensation causing shorts under the chip, or on the back of the board.
@@406Steven The problem with phase change was how much heat it could pump out. Modern CPUs just totally overwhelm it. Just can't pump the heat away fast enough. :(
Had to clean pins off my 5900x earlier this year. Didn't have a fancy spray bottle to apply alcohol so I just filled a small bowl with alcohol and gently moved the CPU around with the pins submerged in the alcohol. Took a little longer than a brush but all the thermal paste dissolved into the alcohol.
Great info for new builders. Good to see you getting back to basics for those just getting into PC building. Not many TechTubers are doing this stuff anymore.
I know it’s a joke but more thermal paste is better than less. Tests show that obviously at a certain point, more thermal paste won’t cool the cpu better and all it will do is create a mess but less thermal paste negatively harms cpu temps. Always air on the side of more
Another thing worth remembering is you can replace just the plastic top layer of the socket - the bit that guides the cpu pins into socket - if its somehow damaged (have done this fix for a friend who dropped his heatsink onto the socket when test fitting everything!). The sockets themselves are extremely cheap as oem parts, so you can just buy a complete socket and carefully pry off the top plastic layer to use. Saves having to buy a new motherboard!
I usually just brought holes back to a clear round opening again using sharp tweezers or a needle. It was rare I had plastic I could justify needing to fully remove for fear of future snags or it elevating the chip in any noticeable way. in any case, yay for solutions!
@@233kosta Cleaning thermal compound out of it sucks. Repairing the socket when someone puts a chip in rotated or the wrong chip entirely sucks. I'd take that any day over the delicateness of LGA; the processor pins were more durable pins and the socket much more durable while I have also personally bought an Asus motherboard with pins bent out of the box back in 2012. That box came from the manufacturer to a truck to our receiving department to my hands from a supervisor and wasn't just out on the shelf, a return, etc. with pins that looked like someone gently imprinted their finger into them.
@@mirror1766 Yeh, like you say, certain parts are a pain, but also you have to somewhat proactively be stupid with the "old" style of socket to actually damage something. LGA pins bend if you look at them wrong 😒 Last time I overhauled my setup (drain the loop, clean the insides of the blocks, etc.) two DIMM slots stopped working. Only thing it could be is a bent pin (which was only ever touched by the CPU, mind!). Touched nothing else on that board and there were no leaks. I've thought about tearing it all apart again and bending the sucker back (or completely demolishing it while trying), but nah. Next time this thing comes out is when it gets replaced by an AM4 board with an 8 or 16 core Zen chip on it. Keeping the water block though 😅
@@233kosta Had a customer try to return a board with bent LGA pins and in frustration with the 'no' showed me how they are protected by the cover and gave it a decent slam shut. I gently opened it and showed him additional pins that the nondelicate closing action had bent which put him in the situation of him now knowing he bent pins through his board handling. Looking at them is dangerous, though I always look at sockets for install and if anything goes even slightly wrong with chip offset as it goes in I open and check again. While there you are also always watching for small debris before install on both processor and pins. That is how I know there were bent pins before I touched the board. Good luck with your future upgrade.
Thank you so much for these kinda videos! As a PC building novice getting into a new build, just having these kinda tutorials available massively boosts my confidence and alleviates my stress levels for doing it myself :)
As one of those people who managed to get thermal paste in the socket of an AM4 board, I appreciate this. In my case I was upgrading my cpu and when I removed the CPU some of the old dried paste from the previous CPU fell in to the socket. In my case I used a small sowing needle and some isopropyl alcohol to and wet down the pin and very very gently “tugged” on the still dry(ish) paste. Big scare and a bit of a headache but thankfully everything works.
This has totally happened to me. Had to access the RAM, needed to take off the cooler and somehow I pulled the CPU out of the socket with the cooler. Relatively fresh thermal paste, it basically acted like glue or a suction cup. Just yanked it out. Thankfully the pins didn't get bent, but now I had the CPU stuck to the cooler and while removing it carefully, a glob of thermal paste got on the pins. Basically did the same thing. Isopropyl alcohol and a soft tooth brush. Worked like a charm.
In my 20 years of building, i still haven't spilled thermal paste on the socket (knock-on-wood), but this is still very good to know, should i be careless one day. Thanks for the guide!
Thank you for the great advice, Jay. I did this back in July when I had to swap out my Ryzen 5 2600 for a Ryzen 7 5700g. When I went to pull the cpu cooler off, my 2600 came off with it. And when trying to pry it off the cooler to put it safely away, I got the thermal paste in the pins. I thought of trying what you demonstrated, but was very hesitant. Now you proved it's easy as can be. 😁
Wow! Probably one of the best videos you have ever posted. I thought that CPUS and Mobos were so much more fragile than they actually are! I thought if thermal paste got into the mobo socket that it was as good as gone, amazing information.
Thank you so much. I’m the idiot that got thermal paste in the socket and on the pins and when I tried to reapply, but rather than freak out I remembered this video and your voice with the guidance just soothed me right out and I cleaned my board and CPU with you. Good as new. Thank you man.
I love your Octoberfest video's Jay. Thank you for your time and effort. I wish we had Microcentre across Europe. It is so difficult in Malta to get any decent modern parts.
It would've been cool to see you powering the machine on after this. Agreed, it would have worked, would've been good to see if there's someone at home trying to recreate what you're doing in a moment of panic though.
You can get it out of lga. Instead of scrubbing use a nozzled alcohol bottle to blast most of it away. I have done the same with mold in an lga motherboard that sat out improperly stored.
I'm glad you made a video about this, as last month I bought a second-hand x470 board with a big ol' thermal-paste thumbprint on the socket. After wiping it off and assembling the system it would only detect the RAM in channel B, and I was very disappointed about running my system in single-channel; however I opted to do a deep clean of the socket just like this before giving up, and it worked like a charm. I suspect the paste had insulated the terminals inside the socket from contacting the pga pins.
Great video. I had to clean up an 5600x a few months ago - tried to do a processor swap with the board still mounted vertically. Unfortunately, I dropped the CPU, bent some pins, and got paste into the socket as well. One suggestion when cleaning up the CPU, put it back in the plastic clamshell it came in. It protects the pins while you clean the goop off the sides and top. Unfortunately, I ended up trashing the motherboard, as when I was mounting the cooler, the brackets slipped and not only knocked an SMD cap off the board, it tore up a trace as well.
This is exactly what happened to me with my TG Kryonaut when I had to replace the gasket in my Arctic Liquid Freezer II whenever they made the defect aware. It was stringy and got on the board, in the socket and in between the pins. It was a far less amount than this of course, but it was surprisingly super easy.
One I got thermal paste in the AM4 socket and I was so worried I took of the entire plastic of the socket to clean it. This video reaaaaaally helped me to fill my knowledge holes. Thanks Jay!
I've used electrical contact cleaner on an LGA 1155 socket as some paste got underneath and it did a great job of removing it without me touching anything. As the pins are really delicate don't spray it too close, and it didn't take much at all for it to break down the paste.
I'm glad Jay went deep into this tip/trick to clean an accident, the only criticism I have is once everything was cleaned off, plug in the essentials and see if it boots. Thanks for your tips @JayzTwoCents!
Have been binging your stuff since I found the channel about 2 months ago. Have already been inspired to rebuild my PC and exploring watercooling for the first time. Thank you for all of the great content!!
This is why I prefer PGA CPUs. Easy to clean sockets and CPUs; pins are more robust than you might think; pins can be straightened; (touch wood) never personally broken a pin on a CPU. LGA CPUs are even easier to clean, but God forbid that you bend any of the leaf spring/pins in the socket! If you bend one or two, you can generally fix them; bend a few, and chances are that as quick as you straighten one pin, you'll be bending another, particularly if the patch of bent pins straddle the middle, where the pins change direction. 😖
@@Simon-tr9hv what does "it's outdated" mean? This is technology not fashion. Lightning port was dropped because EU laws that mandate USB-C on phones, not because it's "outdated"
@@Simon-tr9hvIn so much as, it's probably easier to increase the density of connections between CPU and socket in LGA, without having to increase the size of CPU or socket, yep, you're right. As the desire for more cores, more PCI-E lanes etc. increases, so does the need for more connections. When the number of pins required got too high, AMD either had to switch to a larger CPU, or switch to LGA. Flip side of that is that, as connection numbers increase on LGA, those leaf spring style pins in the socket overlap more and more - which may actually provide some support and help prevent damage - but if you do manage to damage them, they'll be even harder to fix without bending other pins. I guess that if you want (and can afford) the most powerful, highest core count, highest lane count small form factor CPU, LGA will be the only game in town from now on. That said, if I was looking at two lower end CPUs, one LGA, one PGA, with the same core count, I would always gravitate towards the PGA.
@marcogenovesi8570 well, the main reason of amd switching to lga socket is that pga simply doesn't have enough density of pins or contact points to satisfy the spec needed for more powerful cpu without having to increase the size of substrate, as for lightning port, did you know that it's only using usb 2.0 standard? 600mb/s instead of now 20gb/s usb c newest spec?
@@Simon-tr9hv you need to increase the size of the substrate to fit more pins also with LGA (i.e. see server processors that are big ger than a credit card) so I'm not sure that is a valid reason. LGA is more convenient and won't get stuck in a cooler, that's a feature. But besides that I assume it's cheaper or something and that's why they went with that. As for lightning/USB-C port, you know USB-C is just a physical connector spec right? The actual data lines can be anything or not even be present (i.e. for a simple charging port). For example even on iphones the "non premium" models with USB-C will still be usb 2.0 so the same speed as lightning. Most non-flagship android phones have usb-c with usb 2.0 only. And it's not even a real issue imho, not a lot of people actually NEED to transfer data back and forth using USB on a phone. The biggest change for phones is support of USB PD so now iphones can finally support the standard fast charging
i've started using denatured alcohol to clean thermal paste. folks can buy it in the painting section of walmart. it's a stronger solvent alcohol that still won't hurt anything besides the thermal paste. it also has no water so it evaporates quicker. be careful not to have a flame(don't smoke) around it though because it is flamable. rubbing alsohol is also flamable but less so.
nice video for complicated situations yet i prefer using a contact cleaner spray , that way the paste just drop alongside the product and the spraying pressure cleans and penetrates almost everything . most of the time no scrubing needed. cheers
Went all the way from winnipeg to Southern California and made it a point to go to microcenter and check it out because of how much jay has talked about it. Pretty cool store imo.
Jay. It has been a long time since I have simultaneously loved and hated one of your videos. Purposely getting thermal paste on the socket and board was like a train wreck. I couldn't look away even though I wanted to. Thank you for the video.
You should use Kimwipes Delicate Task Wipers (or equivalent), which are specifically made for cleaning computer components. They are actually less expensive than the blue shop towels. The blue shop towels are not designed nor intended to be used on sensitive electronic equipment. Don't use a toothbrush on LGA sockets, but a very soft bristle brush, similar to the one Jay used to clean the thermal paste residue from the board, dipped in IPA (isopropyl alcohol) to gently clean the socket. On the underside of the LGA CPU, you can just wipe it with one of the task wipes that that has IPA on it. When using a brush (whether it is a toothbrush or some other brush) to clean CPUs or sockets, be sure it does not shed the bristles. The bristles can prevent contact between the CPU and motherboard, and they can be extremely small and hard to see without magnification. You can use cotton swabs to clean the IHS and around the outside of the socket. Just don't use them to clean the pins or socket. I swap out CPUs almost daily at my job and need to clean off CPUs after removing them and before storing them when they are not in use. One thing to remember, is to use a static-free workstation, if at all possible. If you don't have a static-free workstation, be sure the workstation is not on carpet to prevent static electricity. Furthermore, be sure you touch some metal (such as the computer case) before handling electronic components.
Hey i've found that if you buy a wall outlet powered air mattress pump and use the smallest attachment that it works just as good or better than the computer air cleaner that you have there on the smallest attachment theres a small nuk on the tip that you have to cut off in order to get a straight flow of air blowing out... but it works great been doing it for well over 20 years
Thanks for the great tips. I'm in the middle of a 1st time build and did have a tiny bit of a thermal paste issue with a couple holes in the CPU socket. I even picked up a dandy $20 rechargeable Pressure duster just for the occasion. the more I get into this build and watch your vids, the more I am learning... so you CAN teach an old retired dog new tricks -lol
beautiful work...thanks for the info! I always freak out when the stringy paste falls off something and gets into the "bowels" of the MOBO (gives me more confidence to see someone else do what I was thinking would work with the alcohol trick) Cheers!
I shake and have applied way too much thermal paste in the past and have made similar mistakes. Jay provided solid advice. That said, I cried a little on the inside when I saw he was using KPX for this video because KPX is expensive at $12.54 per tube compared to something like Arctic Ceramique at $3.50 (on sale).
Great tutorial This so freaked me out! I am constantly afarid and have palpitations that I'm gonna bend a pin and frack something up. I learned it's not as fragil as I thought and as long as you are careful you can clean up the mess.
I use alcohol prep pads to clean off the ihs. In 20 years I have never gotten thermal paste on pins or socket. I always use the spread method when applying paste.
I cleaned my CpU with alcohol and rubbed the arrow off on the sub straight. What a lot of people may not know is the arrow is underneath as well . So if you happen to rub the arrow off look underneath and the arrow will be there as well do you will get the CPU in the correct position in the socket .
One I had a motherboard that had a bunch of crap and thermal paste on the socket. Since I didn't care about whether I ruined it or not I used "CRC QD Electronics Cleaner" straight onto the board from the can. Its quick drying but to be safe I let it dry for like an hour. Got all the paste and everything and the board worked. I have since used it on other components like add on card that are dirty and has not ruined anything yet. Really Impressive stuff IMO.
EVERYONE that does a PC build tutorial should link to someone's video on this. A Noob builder would have a life crisis if they thought they screwed up the CPU/motherboard permanently. Thankfully this has never a problem for me. I've built quite a few PCs and the installation of the CPU is something I am very careful and stress every time.
Dude this video is amazing!! I can’t believe I’m not the only fool this happens too. I got thermal paste in the pins in the CPU socket and I had no idea it happened.
Nice one Jay! I can't always trust myself with toothpaste, let alone thermal paste. This was why I invested in one of those pads by Thermal Grizzly that you mentioned in a previous video, I was so glad I could save myself all the mess you made in this video. Thanks again!
I was watching your last video, on 4K, and found out Chrome couldn't handle it for some reason anymore (my PC/Internet is fine. After a lot of troubleshooting (cause it just started) I tried it on Edge and Opera GX. Edge had a bug but the Opera GX handled it fine. After years of using Chrome, I switched and it was painless. Thanks for your great videos.
Talk about timing. Somehow my CPU was stuck on the heatsink so I had to use a heat gun to soften up the thermal compound. After I removed the CPU from the heatsink after a good amount of heat, I proceeded to clean the old thermal compound off. As I was wiping the compound off, somehow it oozed down onto the pins. Used the spray and toothbrush method to get the compound off the pins completely. Thanks Jay!
Lighter fluid (like Zippo) completely dissolves thermal paste into liquid form. You can drown the socket with it and use some paper towels to soak it up. Repeat until the liquid soaked up by the towel is clear. Also, the lighter fluid evaporates so quickly that it WILL NOT be a fire hazard.
No, dude. You gotta use contact cleaner spray. Just hose it down in a well ventilated area and let it dry completely. The brand I use is CRC. Even works on dried out paste on laptops that iso wont touch.
I actually use CRC QD Electronic Cleaner. Call me crazy all you want Jay, but it works the very best. Cleans every nook and cranny, plus evaporates relatively quickly. Just try it.
Better tip, which saved a friend's computer which was turned on with thermal paste inside the AM4 socket: brake clean. It removes all gunk and grease material, whilst it dries up instantly. Since then, 3 years ago, he has had 0 issues. I also wash components with brake clean, like RAM, CPU, motherboard sockets, etc. No dead components yet.
Hey jay been watching you for a little while now just want to say you have been a massive help went to comes computer stuff. Really hope that continue and keep up the good work peace.
i had to figure out for myself that you can use the brush for cleaning electronic parts exactly when i got some paste between the pins of my former 3800x and it was an eye opening moment for me. suddently everything is so easy to clean. dj mix pult potentiometers? yes sir ;)
Man perfect time for this video, I just ordered a new cpu upgrade for my pc and an aio, I kinda clobbered my 2600x with paste when I installed it a while back I am a little scared to see the mess I made 😅
Anybody else getting the full “Dad explaining stuff to his kids” vibe from Jay? Excellent ASMR 😊
Oh yeah, the cool dad vibes are basically why I watch these, besides being informative.
I was getting more of a "How to properly wipe" tutorial vibe 😂
Every fucking video. And I love it 😁
ALL OF THE TIME!
I’m that kid!
To avoid the blue residue, don't use the air to blow the contaminated Iso off. Instead tip the board on it's side & just rinse with a little more iso so it is all washed away. _Then_ once all contamination is gone, you can use the air. Source: 20 years of experience repairing avionics boards.
Originally, it was a '3 pot system', of X55, ethanol, & freon. But then freon was banned, & then ethanol was deemed too toxic & replaced with isopropyl since it doesn't leave a residue.
But with a non conductive paste, I would likely not bother cleaning the socket, since I remember using sub-zero phase change cooling where filling the socket with dielectric grease or non-conductive thermal paste was standard procedure to prevent condensation causing shorts under the chip, or on the back of the board.
Step 2: Lay some blue towels around the CPU so the cleaning residual is soaked up.
Same thing we do with washing out flux. Even better, start cleaning with it already angled out to drain anything off
Ah, I miss the days of phase change cooling before liquid nitrogen
@@406Steven The problem with phase change was how much heat it could pump out. Modern CPUs just totally overwhelm it. Just can't pump the heat away fast enough. :(
@@NemoConsequentae true, that's back when a 110W Prescott P4 was considered obscenely hot!
Had to clean pins off my 5900x earlier this year. Didn't have a fancy spray bottle to apply alcohol so I just filled a small bowl with alcohol and gently moved the CPU around with the pins submerged in the alcohol. Took a little longer than a brush but all the thermal paste dissolved into the alcohol.
Great info for new builders. Good to see you getting back to basics for those just getting into PC building. Not many TechTubers are doing this stuff anymore.
You obviously need more thermal paste not less.
I know it’s a joke but more thermal paste is better than less. Tests show that obviously at a certain point, more thermal paste won’t cool the cpu better and all it will do is create a mess but less thermal paste negatively harms cpu temps. Always air on the side of more
Another thing worth remembering is you can replace just the plastic top layer of the socket - the bit that guides the cpu pins into socket - if its somehow damaged (have done this fix for a friend who dropped his heatsink onto the socket when test fitting everything!).
The sockets themselves are extremely cheap as oem parts, so you can just buy a complete socket and carefully pry off the top plastic layer to use. Saves having to buy a new motherboard!
I usually just brought holes back to a clear round opening again using sharp tweezers or a needle. It was rare I had plastic I could justify needing to fully remove for fear of future snags or it elevating the chip in any noticeable way. in any case, yay for solutions!
Say what you will about LGA sockets, the user-friendliness of the pin & socket setup of AM4 is very hard to beat.
@@233kosta Cleaning thermal compound out of it sucks. Repairing the socket when someone puts a chip in rotated or the wrong chip entirely sucks. I'd take that any day over the delicateness of LGA; the processor pins were more durable pins and the socket much more durable while I have also personally bought an Asus motherboard with pins bent out of the box back in 2012. That box came from the manufacturer to a truck to our receiving department to my hands from a supervisor and wasn't just out on the shelf, a return, etc. with pins that looked like someone gently imprinted their finger into them.
@@mirror1766 Yeh, like you say, certain parts are a pain, but also you have to somewhat proactively be stupid with the "old" style of socket to actually damage something. LGA pins bend if you look at them wrong 😒
Last time I overhauled my setup (drain the loop, clean the insides of the blocks, etc.) two DIMM slots stopped working. Only thing it could be is a bent pin (which was only ever touched by the CPU, mind!). Touched nothing else on that board and there were no leaks. I've thought about tearing it all apart again and bending the sucker back (or completely demolishing it while trying), but nah. Next time this thing comes out is when it gets replaced by an AM4 board with an 8 or 16 core Zen chip on it.
Keeping the water block though 😅
@@233kosta Had a customer try to return a board with bent LGA pins and in frustration with the 'no' showed me how they are protected by the cover and gave it a decent slam shut. I gently opened it and showed him additional pins that the nondelicate closing action had bent which put him in the situation of him now knowing he bent pins through his board handling. Looking at them is dangerous, though I always look at sockets for install and if anything goes even slightly wrong with chip offset as it goes in I open and check again. While there you are also always watching for small debris before install on both processor and pins. That is how I know there were bent pins before I touched the board. Good luck with your future upgrade.
Thank you so much for these kinda videos! As a PC building novice getting into a new build, just having these kinda tutorials available massively boosts my confidence and alleviates my stress levels for doing it myself :)
As one of those people who managed to get thermal paste in the socket of an AM4 board, I appreciate this. In my case I was upgrading my cpu and when I removed the CPU some of the old dried paste from the previous CPU fell in to the socket. In my case I used a small sowing needle and some isopropyl alcohol to and wet down the pin and very very gently “tugged” on the still dry(ish) paste. Big scare and a bit of a headache but thankfully everything works.
This has totally happened to me.
Had to access the RAM, needed to take off the cooler and somehow I pulled the CPU out of the socket with the cooler. Relatively fresh thermal paste, it basically acted like glue or a suction cup. Just yanked it out. Thankfully the pins didn't get bent, but now I had the CPU stuck to the cooler and while removing it carefully, a glob of thermal paste got on the pins.
Basically did the same thing. Isopropyl alcohol and a soft tooth brush. Worked like a charm.
cpu still works? haha
Thank for being so consistently awesome for all these years Jay!
I totally agree.
In my 20 years of building, i still haven't spilled thermal paste on the socket (knock-on-wood), but this is still very good to know, should i be careless one day.
Thanks for the guide!
Aaaand now you jinxed yourself ;)
Thank you for the great advice, Jay. I did this back in July when I had to swap out my Ryzen 5 2600 for a Ryzen 7 5700g. When I went to pull the cpu cooler off, my 2600 came off with it. And when trying to pry it off the cooler to put it safely away, I got the thermal paste in the pins. I thought of trying what you demonstrated, but was very hesitant. Now you proved it's easy as can be. 😁
Jay is literally the "cool tech dad" we've always wanted (':
Wow! Probably one of the best videos you have ever posted. I thought that CPUS and Mobos were so much more fragile than they actually are! I thought if thermal paste got into the mobo socket that it was as good as gone, amazing information.
Thank you so much. I’m the idiot that got thermal paste in the socket and on the pins and when I tried to reapply, but rather than freak out I remembered this video and your voice with the guidance just soothed me right out and I cleaned my board and CPU with you. Good as new. Thank you man.
I love your Octoberfest video's Jay. Thank you for your time and effort. I wish we had Microcentre across Europe. It is so difficult in Malta to get any decent modern parts.
Same. It is an absolute kerfuffle getting PC parts here in Norway. Microcenter would make it so much easier.
Yeah, we need at least 3 Microcentres in the UK alone. They could open 40 or 50 across Europe and be successful.
@@Thurgosh_OG Probably more than that.
It would've been cool to see you powering the machine on after this. Agreed, it would have worked, would've been good to see if there's someone at home trying to recreate what you're doing in a moment of panic though.
You can get it out of lga. Instead of scrubbing use a nozzled alcohol bottle to blast most of it away. I have done the same with mold in an lga motherboard that sat out improperly stored.
I'm glad you made a video about this, as last month I bought a second-hand x470 board with a big ol' thermal-paste thumbprint on the socket. After wiping it off and assembling the system it would only detect the RAM in channel B, and I was very disappointed about running my system in single-channel; however I opted to do a deep clean of the socket just like this before giving up, and it worked like a charm. I suspect the paste had insulated the terminals inside the socket from contacting the pga pins.
Great video. I had to clean up an 5600x a few months ago - tried to do a processor swap with the board still mounted vertically. Unfortunately, I dropped the CPU, bent some pins, and got paste into the socket as well. One suggestion when cleaning up the CPU, put it back in the plastic clamshell it came in. It protects the pins while you clean the goop off the sides and top. Unfortunately, I ended up trashing the motherboard, as when I was mounting the cooler, the brackets slipped and not only knocked an SMD cap off the board, it tore up a trace as well.
I made the same mistake too before. Never again swaping PC parts with the motherboard vertically in the case..
Im sorry to hear, but damn.
Bro are you building a pc or going to war with it lmaaao😂😭😭
Having encountered this scenario I'm super grateful for this very thorough guide. Much better than plunging those PGA socket holes with a staple!
Your timing on this video is crazy. Good stuff!
This is exactly what happened to me with my TG Kryonaut when I had to replace the gasket in my Arctic Liquid Freezer II whenever they made the defect aware. It was stringy and got on the board, in the socket and in between the pins. It was a far less amount than this of course, but it was surprisingly super easy.
I would never make that kind of a mess, but still watch Jay's videos like this one for pure entertainment. 😄
Thats what im saying lol
I concur.
One I got thermal paste in the AM4 socket and I was so worried I took of the entire plastic of the socket to clean it. This video reaaaaaally helped me to fill my knowledge holes. Thanks Jay!
I use a q-tip soaked in isopropyl alcohol to clean the edges on the cpu and also the top part of the socket
qtips leave fibers
dont use those
@@Robbie-mw5uu 😎
I've used electrical contact cleaner on an LGA 1155 socket as some paste got underneath and it did a great job of removing it without me touching anything. As the pins are really delicate don't spray it too close, and it didn't take much at all for it to break down the paste.
Now try cleaning thermal paste out from between LGA pins
I'm glad Jay went deep into this tip/trick to clean an accident, the only criticism I have is once everything was cleaned off, plug in the essentials and see if it boots. Thanks for your tips @JayzTwoCents!
Have been binging your stuff since I found the channel about 2 months ago. Have already been inspired to rebuild my PC and exploring watercooling for the first time. Thank you for all of the great content!!
This is why I prefer PGA CPUs. Easy to clean sockets and CPUs; pins are more robust than you might think; pins can be straightened; (touch wood) never personally broken a pin on a CPU.
LGA CPUs are even easier to clean, but God forbid that you bend any of the leaf spring/pins in the socket! If you bend one or two, you can generally fix them; bend a few, and chances are that as quick as you straighten one pin, you'll be bending another, particularly if the patch of bent pins straddle the middle, where the pins change direction. 😖
there is a reason why even amd has moved to lga, it's outdated just like lightning port
@@Simon-tr9hv what does "it's outdated" mean? This is technology not fashion. Lightning port was dropped because EU laws that mandate USB-C on phones, not because it's "outdated"
@@Simon-tr9hvIn so much as, it's probably easier to increase the density of connections between CPU and socket in LGA, without having to increase the size of CPU or socket, yep, you're right. As the desire for more cores, more PCI-E lanes etc. increases, so does the need for more connections. When the number of pins required got too high, AMD either had to switch to a larger CPU, or switch to LGA.
Flip side of that is that, as connection numbers increase on LGA, those leaf spring style pins in the socket overlap more and more - which may actually provide some support and help prevent damage - but if you do manage to damage them, they'll be even harder to fix without bending other pins.
I guess that if you want (and can afford) the most powerful, highest core count, highest lane count small form factor CPU, LGA will be the only game in town from now on. That said, if I was looking at two lower end CPUs, one LGA, one PGA, with the same core count, I would always gravitate towards the PGA.
@marcogenovesi8570 well, the main reason of amd switching to lga socket is that pga simply doesn't have enough density of pins or contact points to satisfy the spec needed for more powerful cpu without having to increase the size of substrate, as for lightning port, did you know that it's only using usb 2.0 standard? 600mb/s instead of now 20gb/s usb c newest spec?
@@Simon-tr9hv you need to increase the size of the substrate to fit more pins also with LGA (i.e. see server processors that are big ger than a credit card) so I'm not sure that is a valid reason. LGA is more convenient and won't get stuck in a cooler, that's a feature. But besides that I assume it's cheaper or something and that's why they went with that.
As for lightning/USB-C port, you know USB-C is just a physical connector spec right? The actual data lines can be anything or not even be present (i.e. for a simple charging port). For example even on iphones the "non premium" models with USB-C will still be usb 2.0 so the same speed as lightning.
Most non-flagship android phones have usb-c with usb 2.0 only.
And it's not even a real issue imho, not a lot of people actually NEED to transfer data back and forth using USB on a phone.
The biggest change for phones is support of USB PD so now iphones can finally support the standard fast charging
i've started using denatured alcohol to clean thermal paste. folks can buy it in the painting section of walmart. it's a stronger solvent alcohol that still won't hurt anything besides the thermal paste. it also has no water so it evaporates quicker. be careful not to have a flame(don't smoke) around it though because it is flamable. rubbing alsohol is also flamable but less so.
nice video for complicated situations yet i prefer using a contact cleaner spray , that way the paste just drop alongside the product and the spraying pressure cleans and penetrates almost everything . most of the time no scrubing needed.
cheers
Went all the way from winnipeg to Southern California and made it a point to go to microcenter and check it out because of how much jay has talked about it. Pretty cool store imo.
Jay. It has been a long time since I have simultaneously loved and hated one of your videos. Purposely getting thermal paste on the socket and board was like a train wreck. I couldn't look away even though I wanted to. Thank you for the video.
JayzTwoCents should make separate video series for beginners.(like me). this is so insightful. need more.
First 3 minutes is just Jay angling for an AVN award...
You should use Kimwipes Delicate Task Wipers (or equivalent), which are specifically made for cleaning computer components. They are actually less expensive than the blue shop towels. The blue shop towels are not designed nor intended to be used on sensitive electronic equipment. Don't use a toothbrush on LGA sockets, but a very soft bristle brush, similar to the one Jay used to clean the thermal paste residue from the board, dipped in IPA (isopropyl alcohol) to gently clean the socket. On the underside of the LGA CPU, you can just wipe it with one of the task wipes that that has IPA on it. When using a brush (whether it is a toothbrush or some other brush) to clean CPUs or sockets, be sure it does not shed the bristles. The bristles can prevent contact between the CPU and motherboard, and they can be extremely small and hard to see without magnification. You can use cotton swabs to clean the IHS and around the outside of the socket. Just don't use them to clean the pins or socket. I swap out CPUs almost daily at my job and need to clean off CPUs after removing them and before storing them when they are not in use. One thing to remember, is to use a static-free workstation, if at all possible. If you don't have a static-free workstation, be sure the workstation is not on carpet to prevent static electricity. Furthermore, be sure you touch some metal (such as the computer case) before handling electronic components.
Hey i've found that if you buy a wall outlet powered air mattress pump and use the smallest attachment that it works just as good or better than the computer air cleaner that you have there on the smallest attachment theres a small nuk on the tip that you have to cut off in order to get a straight flow of air blowing out... but it works great been doing it for well over 20 years
Thanks for the great tips. I'm in the middle of a 1st time build and did have a tiny bit of a thermal paste issue with a couple holes in the CPU socket. I even picked up a dandy $20 rechargeable Pressure duster just for the occasion. the more I get into this build and watch your vids, the more I am learning... so you CAN teach an old retired dog new tricks -lol
Very helpful! I had this happen to me recently and wish I had this guide. I will say though, this is the best add for kryosheets I’ve seen yet lol.
I loved the add thermal paste video 😂
It's amazing how much Jays' sound effects improved the adding of the thermal paste as the beginning of the video!
I am happy that you are doing it the way I clean my machinery. Just that I use a steel brush and citrus cleaner.
beautiful work...thanks for the info! I always freak out when the stringy paste falls off something and gets into the "bowels" of the MOBO (gives me more confidence to see someone else do what I was thinking would work with the alcohol trick) Cheers!
Awesome tutorial
The sound effects are next-level 👍
cryo paste from thermal grizzly is very good man, you should test it, it´s brutal.
sound effects are the best^^
Finally a youtuber shows the correct way to apply thermal paste, thanks Jay.
I shake and have applied way too much thermal paste in the past and have made similar mistakes. Jay provided solid advice. That said, I cried a little on the inside when I saw he was using KPX for this video because KPX is expensive at $12.54 per tube compared to something like Arctic Ceramique at $3.50 (on sale).
Great tutorial This so freaked me out! I am constantly afarid and have palpitations that I'm gonna bend a pin and frack something up. I learned it's not as fragil as I thought and as long as you are careful you can clean up the mess.
I use alcohol prep pads to clean off the ihs. In 20 years I have never gotten thermal paste on pins or socket. I always use the spread method when applying paste.
I cleaned my CpU with alcohol and rubbed the arrow off on the sub straight. What a lot of people may not know is the arrow is underneath as well . So if you happen to rub the arrow off look underneath and the arrow will be there as well do you will get the CPU in the correct position in the socket .
An absolute entertainment with just perfect amount of education! LOVE IT!
it would help to add around socket some blue towel to stop paste going away to the other components, but great job perfect
Thanks for the brilliant course
excellent video Jay, first time builders need to know these things!
One I had a motherboard that had a bunch of crap and thermal paste on the socket. Since I didn't care about whether I ruined it or not I used "CRC QD Electronics Cleaner" straight onto the board from the can. Its quick drying but to be safe I let it dry for like an hour. Got all the paste and everything and the board worked. I have since used it on other components like add on card that are dirty and has not ruined anything yet. Really Impressive stuff IMO.
This has always been a go-to when thermal paste is in the socket or cpu, pick up CRC 05103 QD Electronic Cleaner. Just spray and you are all set
European Brake cleaner also works and is way cheaper. No clue what vile stuff may be in there mit the EU-stuff is about the same ;)
@@peterpain6625 I'll stick to something I know can be used for things like this and not brake-cleaner.
EVERYONE that does a PC build tutorial should link to someone's video on this. A Noob builder would have a life crisis if they thought they screwed up the CPU/motherboard permanently. Thankfully this has never a problem for me. I've built quite a few PCs and the installation of the CPU is something I am very careful and stress every time.
that happened to my dad on his 2nd build ever. great video as always and thank you!
Dude this video is amazing!! I can’t believe I’m not the only fool this happens too. I got thermal paste in the pins in the CPU socket and I had no idea it happened.
Nice one Jay! I can't always trust myself with toothpaste, let alone thermal paste. This was why I invested in one of those pads by Thermal Grizzly that you mentioned in a previous video, I was so glad I could save myself all the mess you made in this video. Thanks again!
I was watching your last video, on 4K, and found out Chrome couldn't handle it for some reason anymore (my PC/Internet is fine. After a lot of troubleshooting (cause it just started) I tried it on Edge and Opera GX. Edge had a bug but the Opera GX handled it fine. After years of using Chrome, I switched and it was painless.
Thanks for your great videos.
Talk about timing.
Somehow my CPU was stuck on the heatsink so I had to use a heat gun to soften up the thermal compound. After I removed the CPU from the heatsink after a good amount of heat, I proceeded to clean the old thermal compound off. As I was wiping the compound off, somehow it oozed down onto the pins.
Used the spray and toothbrush method to get the compound off the pins completely. Thanks Jay!
Lighter fluid (like Zippo) completely dissolves thermal paste into liquid form. You can drown the socket with it and use some paper towels to soak it up. Repeat until the liquid soaked up by the towel is clear. Also, the lighter fluid evaporates so quickly that it WILL NOT be a fire hazard.
Micro center is the best computer store, I drive an hour to get here for my pc parts, accessories, etc. it’s worth the drive!
Thank you Jay.... GREAT topic.
I needed this last week
I have added somw thermal paste on top of my case and I think it works. Like a thermal paste.
This is why I watched quite a few of your vids as a guide for building my first PC - good stuff to know - thank you 👍🏼
These are the videos you don't know you need until you need it
No, dude. You gotta use contact cleaner spray. Just hose it down in a well ventilated area and let it dry completely. The brand I use is CRC. Even works on dried out paste on laptops that iso wont touch.
OMG ,that was breath taking to see ...
I've found a can of carb cleaner from my Napa store works as well. Especially for the inside of the lga socket. Basically just spray it off.
I actually use CRC QD Electronic Cleaner. Call me crazy all you want Jay, but it works the very best. Cleans every nook and cranny, plus evaporates relatively quickly. Just try it.
Damn it Jay, I've got thermal paste anxiety now. Thanks for that! :D
I use CRC Brake Clean, in the red can. Put the straw in the nozzle, and spray away. Use eye protection, and best done in a well ventilated area.
Amazing content👍
Super helpful!
Better tip, which saved a friend's computer which was turned on with thermal paste inside the AM4 socket: brake clean. It removes all gunk and grease material, whilst it dries up instantly.
Since then, 3 years ago, he has had 0 issues. I also wash components with brake clean, like RAM, CPU, motherboard sockets, etc. No dead components yet.
You can also use a solvent like turpentine to remove the paste, especially when it has stiffened or hardened!
Hey jay been watching you for a little while now just want to say you have been a massive help went to comes computer stuff. Really hope that continue and keep up the good work peace.
I think I used too little thermal paste in my build, so I will eventually have to repaste. This video will be of immense help, thank you ❤
This video save my PC. thanks JayZ gosh this helped me so much
I really hope microcentre comes to Australia!!!
Thank you for making this video. It was definitely helpful.
i had to figure out for myself that you can use the brush for cleaning electronic parts exactly when i got some paste between the pins of my former 3800x and it was an eye opening moment for me. suddently everything is so easy to clean. dj mix pult potentiometers? yes sir ;)
Vince: *sends over a bunch of KPX
Jay: 2:04 2:24 2:32 2:47
"this is a DISASTER!"
- Esteban from Zack & Cody
done that many years back on a LGA 1155 board, bent the pins trying to clean it. was a 400 dollar board so paid the small fee to get socket replaced.
3:25 - 'Button it up! It'll be fine!!'🤣👍 The giggling in the background killed me!!😂😆
Thanks for releasing as a full video. If it was only a short, it might as well not exist for me.
Man perfect time for this video, I just ordered a new cpu upgrade for my pc and an aio, I kinda clobbered my 2600x with paste when I installed it a while back I am a little scared to see the mess I made 😅
Actually an awesome video. Wish I knew this years ago
Useful tips! Thank you.
Extremely helpful and useful video!
I've used CRC electronic cleaner with great success and no issues.
I honestly use electrical contact cleaner. Have never had a problem doing it that way!