*BACKGROUND + WHY THE VIDEO'S DISTORTED:* This day 1 of 3. I believe SVB hadn't slept in a while. As well, this being an excerpt doesn't reflect the outcome. Obviously I wish I could have recorded the whole thing from a better angle. SVB and Alex were already playing when I arrived (and people were already using all the seating at that rail). No one was eager to give up their seat for a camera. As it was someone got into an argument with me for even trying to put a camera near him. He is a stupid and temperamental POS -- whom I know for a fact carries a gun bc he shot someone. Some people will know the idiot I'm talking about from just that. As it was, I already had to get the camera wedged in. I just regret is not showing the idiot who wouldn't move (not in a way that would affect him, either) ... deliberately making it difficult. Again, he's a complete and utter dirtbag. Obviously anyone w half a brain would square the camera to the table. I even considered editing the geometry. But pool depends on accurate geometry, and when you edit it, it's not going to retain anything other than the outer edge of the appearance correctly ... and might distort the balls or the table making it harder to assess things afterwards. This really was the best I could do under the circumstance.
@@AN-cy7xm I wasn't even anywhere near the camera -- I was down on table 8 gambling. lol. They were already playing when I arrived (with people were already occupying all the best seats). And no one was eager to give up their seat for a camera that arrived late. As it was someone got into an argument with me for even trying to put a camera next to him. And, I know for a fact that POS carries a gun with him in hard times bc he shot someone there if I'm not mistaken. That'll give some people an idea of the idiot I'm talking about. As it was, I already had to get the camera wedged in. The one thing I regret is not videoing the piece of crap who wouldn't even move over a little to make it possible. Obviously anyone w half a brain would square it up. And I considered messing with the geometry (editing) it actually. But with pool? That risk distorting it. This was the best I could do under the circumstance.
@@trumanhw years later, but rotating it so the table is level horizontally wouldn't distort anything, like skewing, which is what you're talking about. Granted to rotate it it would mean you'd have to crop in a little closer, but that shouldn't be a big deal.
@@Dancindazed So, I can change the dimensions of the table without changing the shape of the balls..? Do you know about P Frames and B frames..? (Compression physics)..? Just curious to see how seriously I should take your comment.
I'm glad to finally get down to watching this video. I'm sure that the more advanced players of One-Pocket, really appreciate it. Nice one Truman, even though my neck hurts a little...LOL
Alex doesn't get enough credit for his one pocket game. He opened a lot of eyes in the Frost match. Every time I see him I am in awe. Shane is still my boy though. Thanks for the upload.
hustlr23 I far from view it that way -- and I was there (and play on that table regularly). The table has a track and when the ball rolls down it, it pulls the ball off line. If the opportunities you get don't afford a speed that allows your cue ball position/safety plus pocket speed...or obligates you to move the OB through the track you're just a little unfortunate. While Alex played fucking superb, Scott got abysmal rolls and did get a little disgusted towards the end. I can't imagine a person with a name like "husltr" not having played enough money games to know what its like to get shit rolls -- and how fucking disgusted you feel when it happens.
hustlr23 You're out of your mind. Amongst players where it's one mistake per loss... each roll is fucking GIANT. Amongst players where they'll both miss a couple of times or not run out off every roll etc -- its not as bad.
I find it interesting that we defend a game that we love by comparing it to another game. You don't need to watch too many one pocket matches to realize that the strategies are not only complicated but require much creativity, making it an art . . . then, when we try to execute what we have seen others execute, we realize that knowing what to do and doing it are worlds apart. There is no need to defend this game.
People also don't realize that once you learn the strategies and cue ball control you need for one pocket, you have a huge advantage in most other games.
This is a superb game. Like so many other things, the more you know about something, the more you can see - tactics, Q-ball control, when shot-making is critical, dealing with frustration, etc. I grew up playing this game, so I find it fascinating to try to figure out what the players are thinking.
That's fucking awesome Chris. I literally laughed out loud. I think they broke even or maybe alex got up a little. From what I understand SVB had all he could stand by the end. Maybe it was just logistics.
Hey Chris... I also LOL'd at your Putt-Putt comment. However, my LOL comes from -- and this is somewhat embarrassing to say -- my actual background of playing competitive Putt-Putt throughout my childhood up until 19 years old or so. I even traveled to different states to play. I know for a fact there would've been some players I met who would've played for $2,000/game, if they knew they had an edge over the person who proposed the bet. I'm glad you asked who won this 1-Pocket money match.
Truman HW reply to ChrisM.4196 was: "I think they broke even or maybe alex got up a little. From what I understand SVB had all he could stand by the end. Maybe it was just logistics." This YT video was only a portion of the total match they played.
as much as these current players are celebrated, a few mentioned as "best ever", such words only indicate to me the slight view of historical players that are overlooked. I watched Johnnie Everlino play, even played with him for a few hours one time, and suspect he could scalp most of the current players. Danny Di Liberto is another who could hold up well if in his prime. I also saw JOhnnie Irish play in a second-floor walk-up pool hall in Miami, and his abilities, unfortunately not on UTube, are more legendary, not mentioned. I view these wonderful utube players as the best curently playing, but certainly no where near best ever. .
In his prime Efren would give either of these great players 10 to 8. Maybe 10 7, The guys from the 60s dont get any credit, glad to see im not the only person that thinks that the older guys would eat these guys alive, Luther Lassiter would swim through a river of shit to play em
I once saw a guy beat a guy beat another guy 27 games in a row playing $500 a game one pocket.. We were an hour down the road when I finally broke the silence by asking him why he didn’t let the guy win at least one game?!.. Before I could even finish the question, he interrupted “Drew, Drew!.. Sometimes they won’t quit until the win a game”… I was fucking blown away!.. lol..
@@billysikes1374 10-7 are you crazy? Efren, Shane, and Alex are 3 of the best players of all time. They play every game at the highest level. There's nobody in the history of billiards that could give shane or Alex 10-7. Like everything in life, 1 pocket has evolved. Back in the day there weren't videos and players didn't share ideas. Send Alex and Shane back in time to the early days of 1 pocket and they'd rob just about everyone playing even.
@@billwillis4402 Yes, obviously he's very talented but every single pool player in the world is subject to "getting rolls" (or not getting them) and he def got quite a few here.
I believe that was a tactical shot. He was trying to shoot the opponent ball into the opponent's pockets and scratching by flying off the table (too difficult to follow the cue into that pocket as well). If he had succeeded, he would lose one of his ball, the opponent does not get to keep the ball. The advantage is to keep the game going and not losing (he would lose if he had not done that). However, he accidentally managed to move the opponent's ball and scratch. So, same effect except the opponent's ball is shifted into his favor. Which is a better position. Later you will see it was a good Gambit seeing as how the Opponent making a terrible ball-in-hand shot giving him an advantage instead.
Alex a great and favorite player...but oh krist his preparation with all it's starts & stops, adjustments, and so on is agonizing. The Asian female players must have adopted his style. They have more moves than Kasparov.
Assholes were sitting near the camera who fucked with it. You think I bought a tripod and set it up so I could then jiggle it ? These two assholes almost wanted to fight for me to get this video. You're not welcome.
i to watch this to play so good but at this time i thun alex move snart that shanw but shane game has git a lot better but at this time he did play as good as alex but yiu can llearm but you need to watch first to just in joy then watch try call the shot vreak it down like a football would but thank so much im try to work my game
They're literally playing for $2,000 per game. May I ask the most you've ever played for? Also, that table has literally 4" pockets (and slightly flared. It is freaking BRUTAL.
Of all the YT videos (around a dozen) I've seen where they're playing tournaments, I haven't seen a shot clock. I think there's just so much strategy, not to mention the difficulty of many shots, to consider, it would take away from the game for both of the players to play with a shot-clock. One has to be super-interested in the strategy to watch a complete match. ... Of course, if you love watching Efren play like I do, then I endure the length of the match simply to watch him.
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bro the guy was sitting there close to 4 hours to record some great one pocket games and u still complain about it. Just enjoy the games and if not GTFOTH.
You'd risk pissing the players & get them irritated with a pushy attitude & making a big hubbub. Here's the thing. When I arrived they were already playing -- and people were already sitting there. No one was eager to give up their seat for a camera that'd arrived late. And no one notifies me before they start playing. As it was -- it was already difficult to get the camera wedged in. The one thing I regret is not videoing the piece of shit who wouldn't move over at all either ... that way the actual 'perp' could've been on blast. If you look at my other content ... (or anyone with even an IQ over 80) ... the default is to make the video squared up. I just didn't have that luxury. I considered messing with the geometry (editing actually). But with pool? That'd further risk distorting things. This really was the best I could do under the circumstance.
I'm glad to finally get down to watching this video. I'm sure that the more advanced players of One-Pocket, really appreciate it. Nice one Truman, even though my neck hurts a little...LOL
*BACKGROUND + WHY THE VIDEO'S DISTORTED:*
This day 1 of 3. I believe SVB hadn't slept in a while. As well, this being an excerpt doesn't reflect the outcome.
Obviously I wish I could have recorded the whole thing from a better angle.
SVB and Alex were already playing when I arrived (and people were already using all the seating at that rail). No one was eager to give up their seat for a camera. As it was someone got into an argument with me for even trying to put a camera near him. He is a stupid and temperamental POS -- whom I know for a fact carries a gun bc he shot someone. Some people will know the idiot I'm talking about from just that. As it was, I already had to get the camera wedged in. I just regret is not showing the idiot who wouldn't move (not in a way that would affect him, either) ... deliberately making it difficult. Again, he's a complete and utter dirtbag. Obviously anyone w half a brain would square the camera to the table. I even considered editing the geometry. But pool depends on accurate geometry, and when you edit it, it's not going to retain anything other than the outer edge of the appearance correctly ... and might distort the balls or the table making it harder to assess things afterwards. This really was the best I could do under the circumstance.
Thanks for the upload. The angle was fine, just stop bumping the camera & moving it around.
@@AN-cy7xm I wasn't even anywhere near the camera -- I was down on table 8 gambling. lol.
They were already playing when I arrived (with people were already occupying all the best seats). And no one was eager to give up their seat for a camera that arrived late. As it was someone got into an argument with me for even trying to put a camera next to him. And, I know for a fact that POS carries a gun with him in hard times bc he shot someone there if I'm not mistaken. That'll give some people an idea of the idiot I'm talking about. As it was, I already had to get the camera wedged in. The one thing I regret is not videoing the piece of crap who wouldn't even move over a little to make it possible. Obviously anyone w half a brain would square it up. And I considered messing with the geometry (editing) it actually. But with pool? That risk distorting it. This was the best I could do under the circumstance.
@@trumanhw years later, but rotating it so the table is level horizontally wouldn't distort anything, like skewing, which is what you're talking about. Granted to rotate it it would mean you'd have to crop in a little closer, but that shouldn't be a big deal.
@@Dancindazed So, I can change the dimensions of the table without changing the shape of the balls..? Do you know about P Frames and B frames..? (Compression physics)..? Just curious to see how seriously I should take your comment.
I'm glad to finally get down to watching this video. I'm sure that the more advanced players of One-Pocket, really appreciate it. Nice one Truman, even though my neck hurts a little...LOL
Alex doesn't get enough credit for his one pocket game. He opened a lot of eyes in the Frost match. Every time I see him I am in awe. Shane is still my boy though. Thanks for the upload.
frost played like shit in that match. couldnt make a fucking ball.
hustlr23 I far from view it that way -- and I was there (and play on that table regularly). The table has a track and when the ball rolls down it, it pulls the ball off line. If the opportunities you get don't afford a speed that allows your cue ball position/safety plus pocket speed...or obligates you to move the OB through the track you're just a little unfortunate. While Alex played fucking superb, Scott got abysmal rolls and did get a little disgusted towards the end. I can't imagine a person with a name like "husltr" not having played enough money games to know what its like to get shit rolls -- and how fucking disgusted you feel when it happens.
Truman HW "rolls" are less and less of a factor as players get better. Maybe we are talking about 2 different matches.
hustlr23 You're out of your mind. Amongst players where it's one mistake per loss... each roll is fucking GIANT.
Amongst players where they'll both miss a couple of times or not run out off every roll etc -- its not as bad.
How much more credit do you want him to get? hahaha Tell me who you are referring to when you say they dont give him enough credit hahahaha
hell of a shot at 26.08 mark
I find it interesting that we defend a game that we love by comparing it to another game. You don't need to watch too many one pocket matches to realize that the strategies are not only complicated but require much creativity, making it an art . . . then, when we try to execute what we have seen others execute, we realize that knowing what to do and doing it are worlds apart. There is no need to defend this game.
People also don't realize that once you learn the strategies and cue ball control you need for one pocket, you have a huge advantage in most other games.
This is a superb game. Like so many other things, the more you know about something, the more you can see - tactics, Q-ball control, when shot-making is critical, dealing with frustration, etc. I grew up playing this game, so I find it fascinating to try to figure out what the players are thinking.
Tell that to a snooker player...
check out the shot just after 59:20.
at 59:30 Alex touches the rail to measure. then shoots a great shot and out!
Crazy good shot.
26:20
for anyone looking for the first full rack from break
thank you
Does anyone else watch/study pool videos with the speed set at like x2
Naw, just keep hitting the forward key (right arrow)
I do both. 3 hrs is long lol
Is that an OB sneaky pete Alex is using?
yes, thanks for the upload... what a game to play... but yeah, WHO WON??? anyone for a $2000 per game of Putt-Putt Golf??? jk... but WHO WON???
That's fucking awesome Chris. I literally laughed out loud. I think they broke even or maybe alex got up a little. From what I understand SVB had all he could stand by the end. Maybe it was just logistics.
Hey Chris... I also LOL'd at your Putt-Putt comment. However, my LOL comes from -- and this is somewhat embarrassing to say -- my actual background of playing competitive Putt-Putt throughout my childhood up until 19 years old or so. I even traveled to different states to play. I know for a fact there would've been some players I met who would've played for $2,000/game, if they knew they had an edge over the person who proposed the bet.
I'm glad you asked who won this 1-Pocket money match.
@@trumanhw Thanks Truman HW.
I'm 3:17 in, and the Lion is simply dominating this portion of the match, which I realize is only a portion of a portion of the match.
Are they playing for their own money? That would really be interesting!
to my knowledge yes.
No way... They have too many backers..
they need a shot clock we use one and it makes it more fun to play and watch
and who the hell won ???
Truman HW reply to ChrisM.4196 was: "I think they broke even or maybe alex got up a little. From what I understand SVB had all he could stand by the end. Maybe it was just logistics." This YT video was only a portion of the total match they played.
as much as these current players are celebrated, a few mentioned as "best ever", such words only indicate to me the slight view of historical players that are overlooked. I watched Johnnie Everlino play, even played with him for a few hours one time, and suspect he could scalp most of the current players. Danny Di Liberto is another who could hold up well if in his prime. I also saw JOhnnie Irish play in a second-floor walk-up pool hall in Miami, and his abilities, unfortunately not on UTube, are more legendary, not mentioned. I view these wonderful utube players as the best curently playing, but certainly no where near best ever. .
In his prime Efren would give either of these great players 10 to 8. Maybe 10 7, The guys from the 60s dont get any credit, glad to see im not the only person that thinks that the older guys would eat these guys alive, Luther Lassiter would swim through a river of shit to play em
I once saw a guy beat a guy beat another guy 27 games in a row playing $500 a game one pocket.. We were an hour down the road when I finally broke the silence by asking him why he didn’t let the guy win at least one game?!..
Before I could even finish the question, he interrupted “Drew, Drew!.. Sometimes they won’t quit until the win a game”…
I was fucking blown away!.. lol..
@@billysikes1374 10-7 are you crazy? Efren, Shane, and Alex are 3 of the best players of all time. They play every game at the highest level. There's nobody in the history of billiards that could give shane or Alex 10-7. Like everything in life, 1 pocket has evolved. Back in the day there weren't videos and players didn't share ideas. Send Alex and Shane back in time to the early days of 1 pocket and they'd rob just about everyone playing even.
per game (rack) or per match, I am confused?
rack!!!!!!! :)
¹²877j
Per rack if I remember correctly Alex won 12k that night but they played again the next day not sure what happened there
Dang Alex is freakin lucky.
it's not luck
@@billwillis4402
Yes, obviously he's very talented but every single pool player in the world is subject to "getting rolls" (or not getting them) and he def got quite a few here.
War game
Does anyone know when this was recorded?
it was just before they played for 20k last year, I think april of 2013 (approx.).
who won.
broke even and svb saw all he needed to to see he couldnt win. :)
@@trumanhw I thought Alex won and they played again the next night
What the hell did I just see at 24:00!? Aside from jumping off the table, how TF do you do that?!
I believe that was a tactical shot. He was trying to shoot the opponent ball into the opponent's pockets and scratching by flying off the table (too difficult to follow the cue into that pocket as well). If he had succeeded, he would lose one of his ball, the opponent does not get to keep the ball. The advantage is to keep the game going and not losing (he would lose if he had not done that). However, he accidentally managed to move the opponent's ball and scratch. So, same effect except the opponent's ball is shifted into his favor. Which is a better position. Later you will see it was a good Gambit seeing as how the Opponent making a terrible ball-in-hand shot giving him an advantage instead.
Alex a great and favorite player...but oh krist his preparation with all it's starts & stops, adjustments, and so on is agonizing. The Asian female players must have adopted his style. They have more moves than Kasparov.
I love the comment and the username. Nice. (science rocks).
@@trumanhw ...Indubitably (science) !LOL...my erstwhile nic was TRUMAN Peyote. Determinism?
I am leaving at 1:30 because nothing is happening lol
Alex the very best what game can’t this man play lol ,
None of Shane’s shots make sense when he’s not shooting for a pocket. I hope he got some weight
hold the camera still
This two guys are still no match to Mr Efren Reyes on one pocket.
Alex is
St0p moving the Damm camera
Assholes were sitting near the camera who fucked with it.
You think I bought a tripod and set it up so I could then jiggle it ?
These two assholes almost wanted to fight for me to get this video.
You're not welcome.
i to watch this to play so good but at this time i thun alex move snart that shanw but shane game has git a lot better but at this time he did play as good as alex but yiu can llearm but you need to watch first to just in joy then watch try call the shot vreak it down like a football would but thank so much im try to work my game
Randall Godfrey you could definitely benefit from some more education. Just kidding :)
The camera person needs some serious lessons.
Can't watch, to much time between shots. Wheres the SHOTCLOCK.
They're literally playing for $2,000 per game.
May I ask the most you've ever played for?
Also, that table has literally 4" pockets (and slightly flared.
It is freaking BRUTAL.
Of all the YT videos (around a dozen) I've seen where they're playing tournaments, I haven't seen a shot clock. I think there's just so much strategy, not to mention the difficulty of many shots, to consider, it would take away from the game for both of the players to play with a shot-clock.
One has to be super-interested in the strategy to watch a complete match. ... Of course, if you love watching Efren play like I do, then I endure the length of the match simply to watch him.
@@trumanhw Good point about the amount of money they're playing for.
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who is the camera man..... smh!!
Yo pimp. YOU should be the camera man. Upload some shit for us.
Truman HW Yo PIMP I don't claim to be a camera man. If I was it would be better than this. Thanks for your effort!!
bro the guy was sitting there close to 4 hours to record some great one pocket games and u still complain about it. Just enjoy the games and if not GTFOTH.
You'd risk pissing the players & get them irritated with a pushy attitude & making a big hubbub.
Here's the thing. When I arrived they were already playing -- and people were already sitting there. No one was eager to give up their seat for a camera that'd arrived late. And no one notifies me before they start playing. As it was -- it was already difficult to get the camera wedged in. The one thing I regret is not videoing the piece of shit who wouldn't move over at all either ... that way the actual 'perp' could've been on blast. If you look at my other content ... (or anyone with even an IQ over 80) ... the default is to make the video squared up. I just didn't have that luxury. I considered messing with the geometry (editing actually). But with pool? That'd further risk distorting things. This really was the best I could do under the circumstance.
Ok seriously... how many did an actual LOL here - ua-cam.com/video/rmWDeB2oyuU/v-deo.html
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holy crap. they play so bad. i would bet 10k against them
Neil Wu I’m sure they’d take you up on that in a heartbeat.
I wonder if this guy knew this is One Pocket.
They’d like ur 10gs
Riiiighhhht. 😉
I'm glad to finally get down to watching this video. I'm sure that the more advanced players of One-Pocket, really appreciate it. Nice one Truman, even though my neck hurts a little...LOL