Fashion history is one of may absolute favorite topics, I can definitely see this series becoming a favorite! The Victorian era fashions were so distinct and ever-changing that they could probably carry several episodes on their own.
As a kid and teenager, I always viewed fashion as purely aesthetic. As I've gotten older and delved into art and design, I've come to appreciate the depth of what your outfit says about your personality and emotions... but also what influences you and what you admire and appreciate. Every aspect of culture has so much to teach us and I love it.
As the owner of the original dress that was used to create the pattern for the brown sheer dress I was delighted to see it in this video in the reproduction fabric that matches the original as much as possible today. The pattern was modified to have the dress fabric and the lining sewn together at the center front opening instead of the common practice on gathered bodice dresses of that era with only the lining fastening and the dress fabric laying smoothly and not requiring fastenings. A minor detail, especially when the dress was worn without the all important white collar. They were basted inside of all the dresses of that era. Even low neck dresses would have a gathered white cotton net "tucker" basted inside the neckline and just peeking out along the edge, which were replaced when skin oil and perspiration soiled it while wearing. That is also why chemises had cap sleeves, usually with double layer gussets under the arms to protect the dress from perspiration. Those errors make me wonder about any other possible inaccuracies about the clothing of other eras in the series.
Always enjoy a 'peak behind the curtain' (or close up look) of these historical sites or they precious exhibits. I got one little critique though, which I hope you won't mind. The editing and choice of (elevator) music didn't quite go with the theme of the video, imo. Especially with the garden scenes. It's not a big deal, but music from the time period in question and no weird editing tricks would have been less unintentionally funny.
I live about ten minutes away from Osborne House, we visit often, love the private beach! Always feels a bit odd walking through her majesties water closet though!
Please correct me if i’m wrong but i think the girl need to wear gloves if she goes outside. On another note, i think it would be much more enjoyable if you put some classical music instead of this modern one.
I really loved this episode, so well done! It’s just the modern music is a little bit offsetting from time frame, more “classical” as less happy tune would’ve been better I guess…
Looking forward to more of this series! Would be awesome if Bernadette Banner view this video and give more of her insight too. It'll be lovely! More Victorian era styles please!
I'd assume reproductions? It wouldn't have hurt, if the presenter had commented on this, though. It's an educational video, after all and the conservation of historical garments is a fascinating topic in and of itself.
Thank you for your interesting lecture. You say a woman in the 19th century, such as you demonstrate, could dress herself, which is true to a point. However she would know to put her chemise, stockings, and shoes or boots on, and only then her corset, corset cover, cage, petticoat(s) and so on. Also, that bonnet would have had a long metal hatpin pushed through the wearer’s updo in order to keep the hat in place. The need for it is clear in your getting-dressed video, as it bobbles about without being secured. You don’t mention whether the dress is from that time, or a reproduction, I’d be interested to know which. Thanks again.
If I remember correctly, Victoria didn't really use the Crinoline but a couple of times. I like the invention, I actually have one for a couple of my skirts and dresses, but as far as I know, she never really used them.
Thankfully there was no issue with seeing some of the corset silhouette coming through in the fabric, because at the very least folk knew you weren't going about your day corsetless, plus with all the extra layers of petticoats and chemise, the corset colour would've been concealed from the outer layer 😊 hope this helps! X
I think a corset cover would've been worn. This would protect the fabric of the dress from the stiffer parts of the corset and also hide the outline of the corset from showing through. I'm surprised it was omitted.
Why start with the victorians? If it's fashion THROUGH history you should start at least with ancient greece/rome. Or start with pre roman britain perhaps
Grecian fashion wasn't a feature of Bronze & Iron Age Britain
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Fine, you could also start with bronze age britain and go from there, but still the main point remais, starting a fashion through history series in the late 1800s is skipping a lot of history
@TurismoHistoricoCarioques where does it say in the description that it's a chronological series? It clearly indicates the series will be filmed at English Heritgage properties, and describe the fashion of the original occupants.
What was that abominable sound track at the start of the video?! The sound track through out the video does not match with the content at all. Very jarring
I dont know how I ended up here. I was literally just researching how upper class society treated others in the Victorian era and somehow i ended up here 😭 send help you guys
Whoever edited this video is not exactly great at their job. The music is horrid and the heavy-handed colour correction hurts my eyes - especially the shot at 0:46 looks like a psychedelic vision.
Woman couldn't even dress themselves. It's bad news when a woman needs maids to help her put on a dress. Most people were capable of dressing themselves.
It's a nice, middle-class dress, made of completely impractical, hard-to-maintain fabrics. Working-class day-to-day clothes weren't at all pretty, and most don't survive, because they got mended repeatedly, and made into rags when they completely wore out. Only the rich wore very pretty clothes, because those clothes were completely impractical, and showed the world that the people who wore them didn't do any physical labour. A white wedding gown was the ultimate display of wealth (not "purity"), because a fancy white gown that was only worn once, was the most wastefully impractical garment a person could buy.
@@OofusTwillip I'll take these impractical, hard-to-maintain fabrics any day. So much more well made than the dreck that one gets at Marshall/TJMaxx/Old Navy these days.
Apart from Miss Crocombe, this is my new favourite series. Such fun! 👏🏽
Me too! Mrs. Crocombe will always be Queen, but this series is a very close second in line (dare I say Spare)
Mrs Crocombe is the reason I clicked on this.!
Fashion history is one of may absolute favorite topics, I can definitely see this series becoming a favorite! The Victorian era fashions were so distinct and ever-changing that they could probably carry several episodes on their own.
Do you have another recommendations to learn ? 😊
@@Maneskinmileytpr Bernadette Banner is one of my favorite fashion historians, I'd definitely recommend checking out her channel. :)
@@midnightblack07 She is not very great. Sew_through_time, V Birchwood, Snappy Dragon are MUCH better. Abby Cox and Nicole Rudolph too
Go Serena!!! Can't wait to see more of this series! 😁
I DIDNT EXPECT TO SEE U HERE LOL
Can’t wait for Edwardian!!
As a kid and teenager, I always viewed fashion as purely aesthetic.
As I've gotten older and delved into art and design, I've come to appreciate the depth of what your outfit says about your personality and emotions... but also what influences you and what you admire and appreciate.
Every aspect of culture has so much to teach us and I love it.
That bonnet didn’t protect not even a millimeter of her face. Pure fashion!
Reminds me of the Georgian straw hats, very pretty but often not in the right angle to protect the face because of the height of hair 😅
The bonnets helped offset the proportions and this isn't a great representative piece
It's great to see Serena Dyer on here. I love her UA-cam channel!
As the owner of the original dress that was used to create the pattern for the brown sheer dress I was delighted to see it in this video in the reproduction fabric that matches the original as much as possible today. The pattern was modified to have the dress fabric and the lining sewn together at the center front opening instead of the common practice on gathered bodice dresses of that era with only the lining fastening and the dress fabric laying smoothly and not requiring fastenings.
A minor detail, especially when the dress was worn without the all important white collar. They were basted inside of all the dresses of that era. Even low neck dresses would have a gathered white cotton net "tucker" basted inside the neckline and just peeking out along the edge, which were replaced when skin oil and perspiration soiled it while wearing. That is also why chemises had cap sleeves, usually with double layer gussets under the arms to protect the dress from perspiration. Those errors make me wonder about any other possible inaccuracies about the clothing of other eras in the series.
Thank you for imparting your knowledge!
I absolutely love this channel!! What a delight, thank you for these videos 😀
We need another episode about the other styles of the Victorian era
One? I say we need one for every decade at least.
Yes, this wasn't about Victorian fashion but about Victoria's fashion.
@@sophiehill4845Exactly ! I'm furious.😡
Always enjoy a 'peak behind the curtain' (or close up look) of these historical sites or they precious exhibits.
I got one little critique though, which I hope you won't mind. The editing and choice of (elevator) music didn't quite go with the theme of the video, imo.
Especially with the garden scenes. It's not a big deal, but music from the time period in question and no weird editing tricks would have been less unintentionally funny.
I’m totally with you! The music has been bugging the whole time.
I wonder if they were going for a "runway music" aesthetic.
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Now that you mention it...that could be it. I don't really fashion/beauty channels, so that might have slipped by me 🙂
The organdy dress is marvelous. Simple, light, flattering, comfortable. Would love a modern version.
I am so here for this series
My 5 year old daughter is obsessed with Victorian fashion. You made her day.
I am so here for this series for sure.
Yeeeeeeeeeees! I was wondering when you'd do something of the sort!
Excellent series!!
I loved this episode. I Sant more. Thanks!
I live about ten minutes away from Osborne House, we visit often, love the private beach! Always feels a bit odd walking through her majesties water closet though!
Lovely. I'd love to see more videos like these!
Please correct me if i’m wrong but i think the girl need to wear gloves if she goes outside.
On another note, i think it would be much more enjoyable if you put some classical music instead of this modern one.
They didn't have to wear gloves.
This is a great educational and very engaging series, but the background music seems an odd choice given the subject matter.
I really loved this episode, so well done! It’s just the modern music is a little bit offsetting from time frame, more “classical” as less happy tune would’ve been better I guess…
Super interesting! Can't wait to see more of this series.
What a beautiful video. Thank you kindly for sharing such a wonderful piece. Magnificent clothing and location !
So excited to see more from this series!
Very interesting and clearly well researched video! Thank you.
Love this! I hope there are many more of these to come!
Love this new series 💕
Looking forward to more of this series! Would be awesome if Bernadette Banner view this video and give more of her insight too. It'll be lovely! More Victorian era styles please!
What were black and asian wearing during this time period? The same? Did it differ due to social class?
Is there a playlist for these???? Love it!
Fabulous! ❤😀
Loving it..
Were these garments antiques or historic reproductions?
I'd assume reproductions?
It wouldn't have hurt, if the presenter had commented on this, though. It's an educational video, after all and the conservation of historical garments is a fascinating topic in and of itself.
If it wasn’t for the loud music blasting out between dialogue pieces this would be very watchable.
I agree. Period music as a background would be much more appropriate.
Thank you for your interesting lecture. You say a woman in the 19th century, such as you demonstrate, could dress herself, which is true to a point. However she would know to put her chemise, stockings, and shoes or boots on, and only then her corset, corset cover, cage, petticoat(s) and so on. Also, that bonnet would have had a long metal hatpin pushed through the wearer’s updo in order to keep the hat in place. The need for it is clear in your getting-dressed video, as it bobbles about without being secured. You don’t mention whether the dress is from that time, or a reproduction, I’d be interested to know which. Thanks again.
This was interesting. Perhaps less modern music next time.
Music bothered me too
AWESOME!!!!
Do one on the Regency era please
Okay now we need an episode about Victorian clothing but it is from the Middle Class
Same spiel less frilly and less gorgeous.
Would like to see videos on Victorian middle class, working class fashion and even what was considered 2nd class.
I love Victorian fashion
Can't wait for the Georgians 🙂
Miss Charlotte Bronte had such a dress.
Can we get a menswear one
These historians did a lovely job but I am missing Amber Butchart and Rebecca Butterworth! Their episodes were iconic and very engaging.
Great video, so informative and interesting but the music nearly ruined it. Too loud and way too contemporary for the subject matter.
The music and the fashion 😂😂😂 doesnt really mix
I was shocked that there was no lining to the bodice and skirt of the dress to hide the undergarments underneath.
If I remember correctly, Victoria didn't really use the Crinoline but a couple of times. I like the invention, I actually have one for a couple of my skirts and dresses, but as far as I know, she never really used them.
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Would Queen Victoria have walked around with people being able to see her corset through her dress?
Thankfully there was no issue with seeing some of the corset silhouette coming through in the fabric, because at the very least folk knew you weren't going about your day corsetless, plus with all the extra layers of petticoats and chemise, the corset colour would've been concealed from the outer layer 😊 hope this helps! X
You didn't notice that the torso of the dress is lined?
I think a corset cover would've been worn. This would protect the fabric of the dress from the stiffer parts of the corset and also hide the outline of the corset from showing through. I'm surprised it was omitted.
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Victoria wasn’t really a good mother. She didn’t like children. She was more into her husband.
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Did they skip the 60’s? ):
Why start with the victorians? If it's fashion THROUGH history you should start at least with ancient greece/rome. Or start with pre roman britain perhaps
Grecian fashion wasn't a feature of Bronze & Iron Age Britain
Fine, you could also start with bronze age britain and go from there, but still the main point remais, starting a fashion through history series in the late 1800s is skipping a lot of history
@TurismoHistoricoCarioques where does it say in the description that it's a chronological series? It clearly indicates the series will be filmed at English Heritgage properties, and describe the fashion of the original occupants.
Too bad she can never see life after love.
I can feel something inside me say I really don't think you're strong enough.
Ohhh ohhhh
I prefer the Jane Austen fashion era more.
1930s era waiting...
What was that abominable sound track at the start of the video?! The sound track through out the video does not match with the content at all. Very jarring
I dont know how I ended up here. I was literally just researching how upper class society treated others in the Victorian era and somehow i ended up here 😭 send help you guys
But where is the Victorian men clothing?
Whoever edited this video is not exactly great at their job. The music is horrid and the heavy-handed colour correction hurts my eyes - especially the shot at 0:46 looks like a psychedelic vision.
What about the 1840s?
Платье слишком короткое. В те времена было недопустимо демонстрировать ноги. Длинная должна быть максимальной, до пола, чтобы закрыла все.
Rude to call Queen Victoria without her formal title 🫣🫣🫣
I want a face off dress off with Amber Butchart and Serena
That dress makes her look shorter than she probably are.
No wonder that i think of Queen Victoria as a rather short woman.
Woman couldn't even dress themselves. It's bad news when a woman needs maids to help her put on a dress. Most people were capable of dressing themselves.
Ngl this dress is not pretty
It's a nice, middle-class dress, made of completely impractical, hard-to-maintain fabrics.
Working-class day-to-day clothes weren't at all pretty, and most don't survive, because they got mended repeatedly, and made into rags when they completely wore out.
Only the rich wore very pretty clothes, because those clothes were completely impractical, and showed the world that the people who wore them didn't do any physical labour.
A white wedding gown was the ultimate display of wealth (not "purity"), because a fancy white gown that was only worn once, was the most wastefully impractical garment a person could buy.
@@OofusTwillip I'll take these impractical, hard-to-maintain fabrics any day. So much more well made than the dreck that one gets at Marshall/TJMaxx/Old Navy these days.
@@lolajl As a German, I like your use of "dreck".😀🙃 (Oh, and I totally agree with you.)
Can’t wait for Edwardian!!