First Look: Ducati DesertX 'Rally' Edition
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Ducati's new Rally model takes the off-road capability of the DesertX up a notch with longer suspension travel, higher-spec components, stronger/lighter wheels, single-piece seat, high fender, and more. ADV Pulse contributor Steve Kamrad gives a walkaround of the upgraded machine from the Ducati press launch in Morocco. Stay tuned for our full review coming soon. In the meantime, check out all the specs and features at www.advpulse.c...
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Steve, I believe that those Excell rims have the inner safety rims (as per tubeless) so if you use the extremely effective Outex tape you can easily turn them into tubeless.
Mmmm, well, if you buy this bike, you don't want tubeless tires, you want the non dot racing tube type stuffz but that is a good point and I will ask about.
@@steve_kamrad5216 Maybe strictly for racing but lethal for continuous high speed freeway work as HD tubes run very hot and can blow out. They add considerable unsprung weight which saps BHP and adds vertical and lateral inertia which screws up suspension settings and braking and turn in. And a nail or long catus thorn will still lead to total deflation instantly. Tubliss system is much lighter, runs cooler and can hold a tire on the rim even with a sidewall slash. Downside you need a 100 psi pump and a daily top up. My preference is genuine tubeless with puncture resistant tires and OKO fluid which balances better than any wheel weights ever will and slows deflation. Easy to fix punctures with a plug in seconds. Downside is tire changes are messy. There is no perfect solution even now.
@jamesfairmind2247 if you have all these theories and concerns about tube type bikes and these issues, this just isn't the bike for you. And you should stick to the DesertX standard. Cause it will just ease ur mind. This bike is for the offroad performance weapon category.
@@steve_kamrad5216 I wouldn't buy either of them. Any bike that pretends to be a serious off road bike yet takes a 30 minute strip down to replace an air filter is not on my radar. My comments (none of which are theories but very well established facts, provable on a dyno etc ) re different tire solutions apply to every bike made and are a headache for all of us. No harm in airing them.
@jamesfairmind2247 I wouldn't choose which motorcycle I wanted based on air filter maintenance times. And to think that Ducati built a bike thats pretending to be serious, when your opinion is that tubed wheels are not the right choice proves you have some theories, but ask any really aggressive, capable, experienced rider/racer and they'll tell you that the advantages of non-dot tires (all of which are tube type) with tubes is much more reliable for the type of riding this "very serious" off road bike was built for. Some times through text things come off harsh, but if you think tubeless is the way to go, I think you're leaning towards a capable ADV bike. These Desert X's have already proven themselves in races like the erzburg prolog and Biltwell 100 and other rallies so far, and if you ask any professional moto journalists or racer, the Desert X rally and the ktm 890 rally are the two most serious adv bikes on the market currently. Infact the Desert X Rally is the first ADV bike I haven't been able to "over ride". I'll have to ask a bit about the excel rim and the tire bead still. But also something to consider, the closed cartridge kyb front forks need to serviced (seals and Teflon wear bands) every 17k kilometers. The rear shock is 48k kilometers. It's a built race/hardcore bike and should be celebrated no matter what manufacturer builds it. Cheers
2:45 those machining marks are told to give extra 10 hp's 🤣
Looks good but too heavy for a rally type bike
Looks like the mounting for the muffler is bolt on, but what do you think of the placement of mufflers in general on adv bikes? People unnecessarily concerned, or should manufacturers find ways to put them more out of ways?
So these pipes are small and out of the way, pull the rear foot pegs and ure super slim out back
The only way to get that tailpipe completely out of the way is to run it up underneath the seat and out the back like Ducati used to do with the 916. Unfortunately, they couldn't stop all that heat from roasting the riders buns. 😂 9:20
I think the question is not why did this bike come with tubed wheels, but why those widths? The similarly targeted KTM model was the same way. A 2.15/3.5 combo would have been perfect for the more aggressive tires available. It kind of sucks to buy a top of range specialized model and feel like you immediately need to go out and buy expensive new wheels.
Its Volkswagen. They are weird like that. Nice bike but they expect you to service that bike @dealer. That is ridiculous for a bike of this type.
I hear ya, but also the 2.15 and 4" will take most of the fatter dirt bike rubber and adv bike rubber. They're is actually no better option for widths and a as person with rally width rims from woodys (90/90, and 120 rear 2.15) you'd actually be hard up to find tires that can handle the load rating or be justified doing adv work. So these are the best, strongest choice
@hagestad I hear ya, but you can't do normal maintenance, they just don't want you to do a valve adjustment or computer work, which I (let's say I'm Ducati) I wouldn't want to trust you to do you own valve job either. Heck I don't trust myself to do valves and used to work on hydraulics and air frames in the Marines. So
Ill say valve your job argument is understandable. But im saying about something as simple as oil change. @@steve_kamrad5216
@@steve_kamrad5216 Yeah. It was nice to get a 2.15 front at least. Many of the better tubed rears until you get really skinny are 140's which are best with a 3.5 (and most of these have an appropriate load rating for bigger bikes). Thankfully we can get the 908RR's or Desert H/T's in either 140 or 150 these days (although you are getting a TL design with the 150 in some cases).
Yeah, like I want a bike that I'm forced to take to the dealer to always be serviced. Not happening
Honda makes the xr650L still.
@steve_kamrad5216 and Yamaha makes the super Tenere, never needs worked on.
Awsome bike, sounds rubbish though.
Needs a slip on pipe.
It's certainly a good looking thing. I just don't want that brand for off road
Well its the first ADV bike ridden that I can't "over ride" so it's pretty legit and no issues o. The launch for anyone. I've crashed nearly ever bike over ever tested and I couldn't crash it. No warning lights either
What is the wet weight of it? Feels it more top-heavy than the 890 AdvR (RALLY)?
Cheers 👍🏻
Claimed is 460 ish but I have a friend with a scale, and so this bike is more like 500, which is a little heavier, but the suspension is so good at keeping the bike in line
Dudes..come on, it is a very fast dirt bike... very fast.. can't wait for their mx and enduro models...
The comment section full of people who don’t even own a bike, ADV bike, or can’t afford a Ducati I feel is the norm for adventure bike videos around the Desert X.
Or the people that own a different bike and want to feel good and justified about their purchase. 😂
This Ducati, looks seriously tall and top heavy. Most likely it will be a poser bike for many.
Why really rides a Ducati in the dirt? Tubeless is for sure the way to go, one tube change at roadside can really be a deal ender.
Air filter will still be under the tank… big NO from me…
I was hoping to buy one, I ended up going for the 901 Expedition… no way I am spending an hour each night on a big dusty trip pulling the tank off for something you should be able to swap out in 5 mins from under the seat… hope these “silly” people work out there are things that are considered owner maintenance (chain, air filter, oil level and tyre pressures) and dealer/workshop maintenance… expecting a user to potentially remove the tank dozens of times a year is a big ask… can’t wait for all the fuel spills, fires and other warranty claims by people without a high level of mechanical skill wrestling with the tank and plastics removal…
These bikes did 4 days in Morocco on a group ride, no clogged filters. Taking the tank off is easy and I wouldn't choose an adventure bike based on where the airfilter is or isnt.
@@steve_kamrad5216 Yeah google bull dust. You need daily filter changes mate. If you have pre-filters you swap them out twice a day. A bike with a filter under the tank is designed for posers that want the look without actually going too far off sealed roads. Again if they do a complete redesign of the intake… It may be worth a look.
There is a reason they never do a press launch in central Australia…
@bens5186 the aussies where here, they complained about the dust here, the reason though is logistical, and visas
Good to see you reviewing the bike Steve.
Ducati must be serious about the rally version to let you near the bike, you’ve been known to ride bikes the way we all want to see them ridden.
Cheers bro! 🍻
Thank you! And also I wasn't able to over ride the bike! So that's amazing because I have over ridden bikes to the point they break apart, but never a dirt bike and now, only this bike.
@@steve_kamrad5216 That is an awesome endorsement. 👍
Looking at the progression from the Desert Sled I can see the efforts Ducati are putting into making these serious performers.
Why do you think the front fender kit has slashes towards the beak?
Speed holes
Can you gently in the USA?market
My concerns are field maintenance accessibility, such as cleaning or swapping out air filters quickly or ease of access for oil and oil filter changes.
Yeah you just gotta pull the tank off, if you're doing any field mechanics "you should be able to handle those things no problem.
Does it have the same ugly sound as my 901 or is it just me😂
Just you, these sound way better
Bike was on rally or rally STR?
For the launch rallies, factory. Srt
17,000+ $ that's too high Price compared to other bikes. 💯
Go price a Honda Africa Twin AS or KTM 890 R and get back to us.
How are rear tanks not an option on this while being an option on the base? Big miss imo.
Well, they are an option. Big hit in ur opinion! Heck yeah
The auxiliary tank is absolutely an option on this bike.
Check the Ducati configurator to confirm.
When Honda AT1100 had 103 hp everybody said haha not enough... When it actually has way more torque down low than tbis X - but When Ducati makes a 110hp bike everybody falling over themselves to praise it. How is any better, or able to go anywhere special? Or better than a KTM1090 or my 2013 1190R? Perspective here Steve? And the stupid air filter? Any easier to get to on the blah blah dealer-X? BTW you're still one of best reviewers usually
Is there any way to protect the water pump without getting chrash bars?
Sure, aftermarket
Does it still have crazy high torque for the rear wheel axle?
Idk
Not for me. Beyond my ability, no local dealer either.
It's beyond everyone's ability. Seriously good bike, but will also require a good dealer too
that front mudguard looks completely useless, soft is fine, that looks floppy or its not mounted right, imagine that at even 60mph never mind at 100, it looks like a strong wind would bend it into the tyre
Well we did 110 and no problemo.
@@steve_kamrad5216 you pointed it out, and it does actually look loose in video, something to push the sale of extras maybe 🙂 but i am a cynic 🙂 have fun 🙂
@@barebonesmc yeah, just want to say no issues! But also I like the low fender look and it feels higher quality, but also we can fix these problems with a little more money.
@@steve_kamrad5216 a little more money pmsl, along the lines of the £119 brake lever for the superquaddro mono 🤣🤣🤣 so probably close to £1000 for a flashy carbon one thats brittle as hell, great for a "Rally" bike. sound for the local coffee shop i guess though 🙂
@barebonesmc yeah, it's going to be tuff cause the DesertX Rally is going to be the king at the coffee shop but also offroad it's really good. You could also swap to the low front fender
Africa twins is goods than all it
No, the Honda can't keep up, in a lot of ways, it's less expensive though.