Best Paints? My Thoughts On Modelling Paints, Thinners And Primers
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
- My friends, here are some of my observations and experiences with different brands and types of modelling paints, thinners, primers and varnishes. Every type of paint has its benefits and is suitable for certain tasks, and different modellers might prefer a certain brand or type - be it water based acrylic, lacquer, or something in between.
We take a look at Tamiya, AK Real Colors, Mr. Paint, Lifecolor, Mr. Hobby, Gunze, Vallejo, Ammo, Mission Models and VMS - brands which I was able to try and use, some for a very long time.
Of course, these observations are just my personal opinions, and if something didn't work for me or fit my needs, it doesn't mean it's bad. Every product on the market has something to offer.
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The modeler has uploaded again; REJOICE!
I don't think anyone called me "the modeler" before, appreciate that 😆
@@NightShiftScaleModels you really are The Modeller, your models are on an another level!
REJOICE! HE HAS RETURNED!
What i love about your channel: many modellers are fantastic. But the difference between you and them: you can teach!
Agreed,... i learn a lot from him , but still my work result always far beyond Hope.... LoL , trash can friendly hahaha..
Hi! Great info, I have been building models for way to long! Hahaha! I would like to know what is your experience with Testors? I bought loads when I lived in the States 20 years ago and the are still good for the most part. I've not seen any other manufacturers that do metalizer buffable Paints. I'm not even sure Testors is in business anymore. Just wondering if u had any experience with these Paints. Cheers!
Martin, my friend, thank you for your passion and your work. As for me, you are the best modeling storyteller I have ever seen and heard.
Thanks a lot!
Not only are you a mega professional modeller, but your English is also absolutely AMAZING!!!
Thanks! It's not perfect, but narrating videos every week helps a lot!
@@NightShiftScaleModels I'm English and a teacher of English) Believe me, you are heads above manyyyy native speakers; to explain this hobby in clear fine detail in your 2nd language and to inspire thousands of us... Impressive and I'm sure everyone here agrees with me)
The only exception to this is the word...REVELL
Pretended accent is really annoying on other hand
@@NightShiftScaleModels You speak perfect broken english
That MENG tortoise would be an interesting build to watch. I can’t imagine what kind of weathering you could do on such big, flat surface.
Love these cut-out videos! Never feel sorry for not putting out actual modelling content, this is just as good and relevant!! They make nice little breaks in between ongoing projects and are just as informative!! Keep doing them, there's so many topics that can be touched upon!!
"Model is not a spoon" Is my favorite quote of 2021.
Actually even the chemistry is different.. the adherence and the the results are different on both.... but, yea, who knows.. maybe there is a hobby that turn about painting spoons and we dont know about... you can do nice faces on it hehhe
"There is no spoon."
Das Werk Panther in the back... very nice :D
Soon, hopefully? :D
Wait a second, we know there is uncle Night Shift, but what if is there uncle Day Shift? I'm scared....
That's not day, that's studio lights 😆
@@NightShiftScaleModels Day is temporary, but shift is Eternal
@@NightShiftScaleModels maybe a second channel with for example behind the scenes or other stuff called uncle Dayshift🤨
@@NightShiftScaleModels dang your studio lights look just as real as your models
@@guusvanbroekhoven4067 That's a terrible idea. Everyone knows that day shift are a bunch of slackers. ;)
Thanks for your view on the topic. I think everyone has to find his or her personal favourite, but recommendations certainly help shortening the effort one has to make to find it :)
Exactly! Back in my day Vallejo and Vallejo Air were all the rage because Spanish modelers were using them in their magazine articles, and then it was suddenly Tamiya all the way for airbrushing :)
And I gotta admit, back then I immediately found Tamiya paints to be easier to spray than Vallejo.
@@NightShiftScaleModels Few paints is as forgiving to airbrush as just the Tammy paints!
I’m happy you made this! I just got a bunch of Tamiya paints for Christmas. Good to know I made the right choice.
Without doubt the best tutorial I’ve seen on the general subject of “paint”. You are a natural teacher.
Hey Martin! Great class on model paint fundamentals. Really appreciate that you cleared up some basic rules, given all the mediums available to modelers today.
Fantastic summary. You reaffirmed my experiences, with your expertise and solid assesments. Your presentations always make me feel like I can slowly achieve the same skills and satisfaction with my own models. Long way to go for me yet though.
man you have such a nice happy energy. thanks for the overview, very helpful.
Not only are you a phenomenal modeller but you are a fantastic communicator . Very engaging and easy to listen to . 👍🏼
Those AK 3rd gen paints are my new favorites. Thanks for all the info, great as always!
An excellent tutorial Martin. Thanks for such an info-dense video. There's a lot to digest there!
This channel is so good, probably the best modelling videos on UA-cam in my opinion! Considering how good the community is, maybe there could be a community awards episode for the anniversary of the channel? People could vote on their favourite models of Martin's and their favourite models posted by other community members in various categories. Just a suggestion. Stay awesome :)
Fantastic, really appreciate this video, i understand it may seem obvious to many, but for us noobs its amazingly informative, look forward to more tutorials like this.
This video is really important and useful video for lots of modelers. Thanks for your nice videos Martin.
I could learned lots of things from you.
This guy is very humble, authentic, and endearing. Thank you for such quality content. I'm a huge, huge fan!
Me too!!
Well said!
My friend, greetings from a USer of Slovakian descent! Absolutely enjoy all your uploads. They contain mountains of information smothered in witty personality. Due to you, I have ordered my first tank model after 60 years of modeling (Tamiya 1/35 King Tiger). Please keep the videos coming sir.
Thank you Martin. That was very helpful. Happy New Year
Awesome information and great content as usual. Keep on keeping on my man! ✊💯
FINNALY IVE BEEN SEARCHING A PAINT GUIDE!!!!
Nice always good to find out about some different products. I will definitely try out the VMS Varnish, I've been struggling with the Vallejo varnishes for a while now.
Thanks for making this video, really helps a lot as I’ve started to look beyond Tamiya for stuff to paint my models!
That's what I needed! I was just thinking about buying some paints, as I recently got back to modeling after... well, to many years, and I didn't know which paints to buy, which are good, etc. - and boom! Uncle Night Shift posts a video exactly on that subject! :D
Thank You, Uncle Night Shift :D
I haven't built a plastic kit in decades. But I do enjoy watching modeling videos. Yours I find very enjoyable simply because you don't take yourself too seriously. It's a hobby unless your are one of the small number of modelers that build professionally. When I was building the variety of paints was far lower. Or maybe the local shop just didn't carry that much. But what l really liked was Floquill.
I always had issues with Mr. Surfacer, due to the relative fast drying time. It became thick, already when I sprayed from the can. Solution found: I just put the can into warm water, before using, which made lover viscosity and use it like that.
I really appreciate your channel! Keep up up the good work!
I like Tamiya paints for airbrushing and Vallejo for brush painting.
I have been modelling and figure painting for about 30 years. I started on Humbrol enamels, transitioning through Tamiya and Vellejo as my main paints. I started using Lifecolor about a year ago I love them. I still use all the other brands for various jobs but lifecolor is my new go to. Thanks for the video man.
i only do brush painting gaming models, but i love vallejo. between the size of the range, price, and availability... its probably the best for my needs
From the models I see in the background, I would like to see you building that Trumpeter T-35.
That's a beautiful kit with amazing details, also very accurate!
Thanks for the useful tips! Love all of your work by the way!
Another useful and entertaining video. Thank you, Martin.
100th episode!!! Keep up the amazing work, Martin!
Excellent overview of what's out there. Unbiased & fair. Nice one 👍👍👍
Thank you very much for this helpful video with all these hints - concerning my favorite colour when it f.e. comes to aircraft aluminium colour, there never has been a better product than Heller Humbrols "polished Aluminium", I think. It has been my favorite for years now and its use never ended in a dissapointment. Great stuff!
Great vid. Very helpful indeed. I agree 💯 on the Mr. Surfacer Primers. I usually buy the cans when I can't find the jars at my LHS and decant them into bottles right away. Less waste and you don't have to thin them for your airbrush. Keep up the good work brother!
Brilliant video, cleared up some mysteries thank you! 👍🏼
You’ve reignited my childhood love of models. Thank you
Thanks for this Uncle Nightshift.I could make pretty eduucated guesses about most of these from watching your videos ;) but it was nice to hear you say it and be certain.
and thanks for the tip on Vallejo and chipping.
I was looking for new paints, this is perfect timing!
So which ones seem good to you after this vid? :)
@@NightShiftScaleModels needed a primer mainly so I'll try and pick up a Mr surfacer. Can't stand cans though, as my Tamiya spray can is uncontrollable and my model was dripping with paint. Ruined the whitewash.
@@tobysellors941 i stopped using Tamiya spray especially on planes. It leaves a pretty thick layer so when removing masking tape, especially around a canopy, it left a mess, like orange peel.
Paint spray cans are really hard to control, seen that several times. But primers are actually pretty good, I used the spray can Mr. Surfacer several times on this channel. You need to apply it with quick passes and let it dry before spraying more, it'll level out beautifully without flooding any details.
@@NightShiftScaleModels awesome! Thanks for the help!
Great as always. Informative and entertaining video. 👍🏻
I spent the first minute nosying at all of your kits and had to rewind because i didn't listen to a word you said 😂😂
Very informative. I'm just starting model painting again. Last time as a kid with humbrols or any kind of paint I could get hold of, sometimes with.. interesting results.
Thanks Martin, my modelling skills are ok but always stress about paint, mixing and thinners and what is compatible. This has helped.
Excellent timing! I am just getting back into scale modelling after almost 30 years (how things have changed!), and was just starting to research this stuff. Thank you!
Awesome! Then you might find the next video helpful as well!
@@NightShiftScaleModels I'm very much looking forward to it!
Ditto. Back in the 1980s it was Humbrol enamels all the way; very hard to buy anything else. I still have some of my old brushes and they look like the fur of a flea-bitten mongrel. Acrylics are so much more user-friendly. Yet oddly, I miss the old Humbrol smell.
very informative, thanks for sharing your time with us, i learned a lot. Cheers from Texas
After painting with Tamiya i clean the airbrush with a ordinary window-cleaner and it works perfect. 👍👍👍
Great reference video, thank you Uncle.
That boxes with models behind you looks so cool. Hope 2021 is going to be someway better ;D ,but thankfully we have your videos.
It's my new default filming backdrop :)
@@NightShiftScaleModels Very nice :D
I really enjoyed this video. I have always used Vallejo but recently I have been getting into Mission Models and a little bit of tamiya but just for brushing, yeah go figure right. Keep up the great work and all the best.
Good video. I love how you explain your reasoning with MissionModels. Not everyone likes the same paints despite recognizing the quality!
I've tried Vallejo myself and I still regret spending my money on it - too hard to work with, dry tips, splattering, etc., while at the same time I love Revell and MiG paints, the latter of which literally caused some people to give me a look on modelling shows! LOL
Very useful, thanks! As someone returning to the hobby after many years the amount of products available and their different combinations can be quite intimidating, especially on a limited budget. The fog has cleared :)
Same situation here. Haven’t built since the 80s when all I had were Testors enamels! I also didn’t know about thinning or any of that back then.
Martin, thank you so much for this analysis, you are very kind.
I used Vallejo Model Color and Model Air on the company's white primer. I thin all of these with their thinner and they work really well. They don't really need to be thinned but I tend to overpaint, so it's better if I apply the products in multiple, thin layers.
However - the primer needs 48 hours and the paint layers 24 to dry properly, otherwise the polyurethane base will lift and peel just as you report.
Ammo by Mig Jimenez will have their first day out in a couple of days, once the primer on my latest model is dry.
Thanks again for the wonderful work you do. Greetings from Slovenia.
I kept hearing that the primer would peel off like it was made of rubber! I also heard a wargamer say that the primer when airbrushed took 15 minutes to dry and 1-hour brush painted!
Glad to see someone else endorising exact same 3 favorite brands. Tamiya, Lifecolor and Mr. Hobby. Can't go wrong.. The only downside of Lifecolor is they're somewhat hard to find at full range, and the Italian store selling them charges 15 euros for shipping where the set itself cost 18....so yeah, no. Most of mine came from ebay for some reasonable prices.
Thanks for this video. You helped me understand paints a little more.
Good to hear your input on this subject......................... 👍👍👍👍
My armour and sci fi builds are coming along nicely thanks to your tutorial and explanations ,thank you Mr Nightshift 😊
great advice, i was looking for a varnish, so will try the VMS
I like Tamiya , but recently have been using AK 3gen, taken a bit to get the mixing ratio right but now am really liking them. Thanks for your video.
Faaaaantastic. I’m new to modelling, and have purchase Tamiya paints. They seem a nightmare with all the mixing/thinners etc but videos from professionals like yourself are great.
Cheers Martin... used them all my friend and still find myself going back to Tamiya
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to chat with me on patreon. Keep up the good work man. We love it!!!
There are lots of paint choices out there Martin. I agree with you on the Mission Models paints. I rarely hear anyone rave about them, It's mostly failed attempts and tears... lol! I've always relied on Tamiya, AK, Vallejo, and Gunze for the best results. I've also had good success (like you said) thinning AK acrylics and Vallejos with MLT. Thanks for posting your thoughts. Cheers!
Glad to hear that I'm no the only one who doesn't get on with Mig paints, though the primer is great. Had mixed results with Life color - had some beautiful finishes with it but struggled to get details to work because it would just spider everywhere. Hataka is the easiest pure acrylic I've used and I'm using it now. It sprays easily and goes on exactly as you intended it to. Lacquers give a great finish and are easy to use but moving away from them for health reasons.
About to watch this. I ordered a Airfix starter kit two days ago and I'm pumped
Awesome advice as always
Smashing tutorial. Keep them coming
Great informative video , Thank You ! Hope you and yours are well ! Tony
Thanks for the video. It is really help to sort it out the subject.
Challenge: Please try ”Revell” one more time.
Sounds like a good challenge :D
No! Hahahahaha
I would love to see Revell Type VII/C in 1/72. Pretty please uncle :D
I'd go with a Revell plane or helicopter. Not so sure about their tanks.
@@ScottKenny1978 I've build the "new" uh-1c from revell last month and the fitment was horrible, i don't know if all the helli's from revell are the same, but avoid this one
Great video, Martin.
Thanks for your opinion - I am going to experiment more.
Great stuff and very useful. Thanks!
Lifecolor and true Earth...specially his filters: I found them very practical for color modulation and washes....
Thanks for the video Martin!
Loved your video. Very informative.
Thank you for the video. Very informative. Look forward to seeing more of your videos. Keep safe from Canada
Happy New Year, Martin!
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Cheeeers!!!
Regarding chipping being harder with lacquers and specifically with MRP, it is true but only for the standard method. Using a standard brush with water over MRP with chipping fluid won't do much unless you rub really hard. From my perspective that's an advantage as now, you can deliberately chip the surface with scribers and other things such as fiberglass pens with much finer detail similar to what you can do with painting it while being able to create unique effects.
Very informative and entertaining. Thank you
Very good video. Very educational!
It looks like I'm not the only one with a Christmas tree still up? Great info too :)
Good review and educational on some I haven’t used. Similar experience with Vallejo and it’s primer, pretty much my go to brush paint now once I discovered how nice Mr Color/Hobby and Tamiya spray (especially with Leveling Thinner). Good to know about airbrush seals on Mr Tool Cleaner 😱
Another great vid. Cheers bud
Just found your channel and have subscribed. This was a very helpful and informative video as I have been having trouble with my painted 28mm metal figures chipping.
I'll try a couple of the products you mention and see how it goes.
Thanks again.
Thanks, I’m a newbie to airbrushing, so all tips are helpful.
Agree re the Mission Paints, just used the olive drab for the first time and it took several coats to get a decent finish, although still a bit translucent!
Very helpful video Martin, especially for beginners. They need this video, I try different paints and find what is good or bad take me an ages and a lot of bad situations, that could be avoided if someone will post video like this earlier.
My opinions are similar to yours: Mr hobby surfacer, ak rc/ tamiya for airbrush, lc and vallejo for brush.
Btw: I really recommend micro satin varnish, it works like a dream, despite its water-based acrylic.
I've seen a few aircraft modelling friends using it, they especially liked the flat varnish because it dries really flat. VMS is also acrylic based btw.
I was just looking for paint for a rye field model. Lucky upload.
Good opinions about your paints you use .What I don´t understand your problems with Tamiyas Primercan ,I use it all the time I don´t wash my models all the time .And it set optimal no orangepeel and never gone off. I use white majorly and also grey and primer red and I am very amazed of the result .For black priming I use spraila matt black spray this one is very cheap and big cans and it never fails also .With paints I fully agree with you .Tamiya is best paint for decades.With the new retader you also able to paint them by brush and with airbrush you got a smoother surface .Good to see they got an new thinner also with retarder inside I need to have a look at my local shop for it .For the acrylic stuff I use the same stuff as you do .I totally agree with your opinion in all casses .For cleaning I use Mig perfect cleaner at least good stuff as well .After I use my Airbush I give it a shot with Balistol spray this prefend the needle to stuck if I don´t use it for a while .
Thanks for this. I couldn’t find a description of AK’s Real Colors under any eBay shopping site. Didn’t feel like going to their home page.
Glad you mentioned life color. My local hobby shop has them and i need a good brushable paint.
Excellent and very useful. Thanks.
Many thanks! Great content.
Interesting video, thank you. Very little was said about enamels. There are quite a few of us who use them. Humbrol enamels are my favorite brand. Both brush painting, & airbrushing. Plus i can use hardware store grade thinner, as well as Humbrol brand thinner. Thank you.
Happy new year Martin 😉🍻
The spoons are a miniature version of the motor industries paint test card and colour reveal system ecause of their curved shape they are perfect for the car building modellers.