Jae-Heon and Elena when putting Angelica together "Jae-Heon, trust me, I've opened up enough people to know there are no eyeballs here." "Hand me... three eyeballs from those pile of Thumb bodies." "There's no eyeballs there either, Greta can confirm that as well." "I've still got 82 eyeballs to put on her..." "Have you ever made a puppet following the correct human anatomy." -This is my headcannon
@@LambdadeltaYT Bye the way, here's a very cheeky combo. Pupperteer on Hokma's floor. Give someone Puppet Strings and give whoever has Jae-Heon's Page Guardian. Literally Immortal, can't lose. Only thing to worry about is Mass Attacks.
- I get that Jae-heon is so filled up with anger, sadness and suffering that he felt the need to let it out by making puppets. Like, I uses strips of scrap paper, ductape and glue to form a continous roll of paper as a way to reduce stress. The motion of wraping the paper over itself is kinda relaxing. After 5 years, it somehow formed the shape of an inflated dorito chip and is bigger than my hand. It's ugly and serves no functional purpose but due to the emotions I poured into it, I couldn't bear to throw it away. So, it's understandable why Jae-heon feel attached to his puppets. - One way to describe Jae-heon would be that he's selfish. He prioritizes his need for revenge over the the suffering he inflicts onto the people he turned into puppets. He also believes that the best way to fulfill one's potential is to only focus on yourself and not do things for the sake of others. That kind of thinking can be good or bad depending on the situation. It's complicated. Like everything else. - Chesed is really the opposite of Jae-heon in many ways from their attitudes to their philosophy. Their colour sheme is also opposites lol - just realized that Chesed never focused on taking revenge against Binah or the Head. Sure, he's technically going against the Head rn but he doesn't express much anger over what happened back in his 1st life. Well, he did rebel against Angela in the previous game but I don't feel like he's doing that purely for himself. - You're right when you said that Jae-heon might not be able to escape from the cycle he put himself in. Who knows, his long term goal might be to just take revenge after revenge for as long as he feels like it. I assume that's what he did before he found out where Roland is. - Chesed having mildly smug but not condenscending aura throughout the whole conversation is one of the reasons I love him
Jae-heon uses his puppets as stress balls, nothing more, nothing less... He takes a person, overrides who they were, and breathes his wrath and anger into them, only to feel the catharsis that’s left afterwards. I do not think he would have been able to escape the cycle he’s built himself into, due to being unable to face the truth of the puppets he constructs. He’s not the puppeteer, but just another marionette dancing on strings he strung up himself, dancing and pretending he’s the one pulling all the strings, but he’s only dancing when Argalia tells him to. It’s interesting that he went to the floor of Social Sciences, since he seems to be a proponent of Hammurabi’s Code (An eye for an eye) given his interactions with Roland, but he also, hypocritically, expresses that he believes that it’s ok to trample others’ dreams for your own in the very act of creating a puppet and in his statement of his ideal world. Yet, he also hypocritically holds onto the wrath he felt when his son died for the first time, and when he was stopped from recreating his son. The only deduction I can make from these conflicting statements and actions is that he’s an ultimately selfish person, who seeks to justify his own ends to himself and nobody more. And Argalia twisted that selfishness to help towards Argalia’s own goal. Jae-Heon is the opposite of a trustworthy person for the contradictions that his actions and words hold against each other, and is unfaithful for his thinly veiled selfishness. I don’t believe someone can have faith, or be someone worth putting faith in, without the ability and willingness to put yourself into the hands of others. That’s my interpretation of his character, at least...
[6:14] DAMN, that's a keen eye you've got. I didn't even notice it but that's almost certainly intentional. Also, Puppet Angelica's pages are actually knockoff versions of the Black Silence's pages. Neato.
Breaking news: Local puppet-player crushed by a house, witnesses say it was thrown by a depressed coffee addict. More at 2:00 ... Jae-heon never overcome his grieve, loosing all trust and faith in himself ... ... mayby he should have started drinking coffee.
Jae-heon is probably the character I love the most out of all the villains, because it's probably the one with the most reasons to actually hate Roland, honestly. It saddens me that they treat him as a second violin, not even the first.
While there wasn't a lot of info about why which instrument was given to each Ensemble member (apart from their vibe of course), the reason for me is that Blood Red Night is an offensive attacker and a lifesteal DPS, meanwhile, The Puppeteer is a defense and support focused distortion. It makes sense to put the offense first then its support.
Puppeteer is interesting because of how he manages to be so strong with so little going on. Trying to solo this one was an absolute nightmare just because Angelica hits so freaking hard. Still, having so few gimmicks also makes him one of the simpler members, it’s all about clashing efficiently to earn the space needed to cut their strings.
I got an unrecorded one with Kalo but Yan is more consistent. Fully enduring blunt is necessary and Yan gives access to both Lock, an answer to Angelica’s puppeteering, and Distorted Blade, a win condition once you get Magic Trick The successful run with the build used ua-cam.com/video/IdwKxCpVMEk/v-deo.html Getting staggered is such a big problem we ended up settling on Oblivion as the only healing and just praying to last long enough
You're really not as bad at the game as you think you are. Like, it's funny to joke about, but don't feel bad: even just making it this far is proof you're good at it. Also, being fair, Jae-heon is really, really hard
Bad is pretty subjective, so I think the most important part is answering simple question "what criterium divide player" and in LoR i can't think of any meaningful one besides "can you beat it?" by which he certainly isn't bad (at least at this point).
so btw, as you should see from Roland's cards he still has Angelica's mace and axe from that image. If you look at the pages Angelica uses resemble, Old Boy's workshop, and Zelkova workshop which have images of him using the mace and axe. Top that off with her also having a page similar to Wheels Industry, and I find Jae-heon's puppet of her all the eerier.
@@Alice-he2zh yeah she has a block into blunt page that restores 3 light, and draws 1 page Looking at the card I see your point now. That is a hammer used in it and not the mace.
This fight was so fucking hard on the replay. Never send out the Reindeer squad out on Jae-heon. As a side note, Tanya's page on this fight makes Jae-heon very trivial. Beatdown constantly on his counter dice to win the free clashes to release the red strings is goated. Erosion also helped with getting Puppet Angelica out of the fight ASAP (used Baleful Brand) before she got red strings. Faster she's gone, the sooner Chesed can drink coffee ww
lambda almost filtered by his greatest enemy (reading) once again already said my bit on this fight on stream so i won't reiterate that here fuck the Oblivion bug all my homies hate the Oblivion bug
Talk about wheezing, I remember one quite fun recording of mine. I was trying to record a game play video on phone. I couldn't turn off the microphone on it, so I just stayed silent. Problem was that I had a dried up running nose. And I didn't quite realize that it was that noticeable at first. It's just so funny to hear loud wheezing at more stressful moments. The lesson to learn: maybe do not record when you feel sick.
This fight can be drawn out due to the nature of the string buff as well as Angelica being the lynchpin to Jae Hoon's survival, but you can just as easily gimp him by bursting down Nimble, Weighty, and lastly Angelica in rapid succession before they receive their strings. Best part of this is the the sequence of who gets strings when; it can't skip any part of the sequence in the event that unit is gone. (Bust Nimble before Scene 2, Weighty before Scene 3, and Angelica can be burst down before Scene 4, there's still a strong chance she lives through your bumrush anyway.)
Jae-Heon's goal for the world is probably the vaguest of all the ensemble members we've met so far besides maybe Philip, mainly because he seemed to have little interest in talking about it. He seems to be a full-on egoist, though, which makes thematic sense because that puts him in direct opposition to Chesed, who has always been the Sephira to care about others the most. Jae-Heon seems to claim to want people to live solely for themselves, and I can understand that maybe. after all, his love for his son was shattered and after that it seems like his life has only been about finding ways to express the pain and resentment in his heart. maybe he sees caring for others as too much of a burden. then again, I'm also not convinced that is truly what he wants. another way to interpret his creation of puppets is him forcefully confiding in others, offloading the pain that he cannot deal with alone onto them, an extremely one-directional relationship. the hollowness of this process is perhaps why the results are only temporary, why his pain comes back soon afterwards. on some level he wants people to help him bear the weight of his emotions, but the world he claims to desire would actually only make that harder. at least, that's my armchair psychoanalysis. I wish we got more of a glimpse as to the world he wishes for so I had more to go off here. he kinda offhand mentions his hatred for the rich but doesn't particularly elaborate on that beyond that he seems to blame them in part for his son's death. does that mean he also thinks that people shouldn't interfere in the lives of others? (if so, that would put him at odds with Tanya) I also think it's maybe ironic that the person who claims to want people to live individually is turning people into mindless puppets. just a thought.
for this fight i literally murdered angelica in 2 scenes than murdered either weighty puppet in the next two scenes literally ignoring everyone else unless i was confident they were going to die, the rest of the fight was just wearing down ja hoen and killing the puppets left
In the first version of this reception the lil puppet had infinite puppet strings due to an issue. meaning that you couldn't complete the battle even with hacks cuz he didn't die, pretty funny isn't it? 4:40 it is but actually they had the same name before, jae heon's pages like "tight strings" or whatever they're called were all "puppet strings" so you had to read everything or else meh. for the artwork i guess they're gonna change them after the full release on august... actually i hope cuz it's kinda lame
So I don't know what's going on, I have to post with alternate account. UA-cam keeps deleting my comments. I just wanted to say I finally beat LC while watching your series and these fights definitely reminiscent of day 46 to 49.
I could see your other comment, but only after fiddling around with the comment sorting under the video (newest instead of top) - I don't know why UA-cam sometimes does it, it really sucks and I'm sorry for that. congratulations on beating LC though! good job, Manager!
Second easiest fight in difficulty after Oswald only buffed by the user levels of reading comprehension, checks out heh. The sad part is at the first try you got it right: you have to dogpile the correct Puppet and kill it in one turn so you leave Jae-Heon and his crappy regular puppet for easy picking. if it's any consolation you now can abuse puppet strings with alot of things the best example is Loyalty with Malk's floor or go even more ham with Gebura.
Having voiceover, that not allows lambda to speak his thoughts while reading, really kills my enjoyment. 15 min of koreans speaking, maybe lambda can voice thoughts on one point, then overly long and unnecessary long bossfight... What happened to library? It was so fun at the start and by middle/end it just became a chore of a game?
I think it's alright for these drawn out bossfights and due to the nature of their length I shut up more than I used to before (since I know the episode might become faaaaar too long otherwise)
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Jae-Heon and Elena when putting Angelica together
"Jae-Heon, trust me, I've opened up enough people to know there are no eyeballs here."
"Hand me... three eyeballs from those pile of Thumb bodies."
"There's no eyeballs there either, Greta can confirm that as well."
"I've still got 82 eyeballs to put on her..."
"Have you ever made a puppet following the correct human anatomy."
-This is my headcannon
He was just going for that biblically accurate Angel..ica look.
cheeky puppeteer
@@LambdadeltaYT Bye the way, here's a very cheeky combo.
Pupperteer on Hokma's floor. Give someone Puppet Strings and give whoever has Jae-Heon's Page Guardian. Literally Immortal, can't lose. Only thing to worry about is Mass Attacks.
@@KarizenMagihow would that work? The Puppet String status is losed when the characters health goes to 1.
This is basically the worst form of NTR to exist!
And Chesed's here to put a stop to that for his buddy,Roland
What a bro.
- I get that Jae-heon is so filled up with anger, sadness and suffering that he felt the need to let it out by making puppets. Like, I uses strips of scrap paper, ductape and glue to form a continous roll of paper as a way to reduce stress. The motion of wraping the paper over itself is kinda relaxing. After 5 years, it somehow formed the shape of an inflated dorito chip and is bigger than my hand. It's ugly and serves no functional purpose but due to the emotions I poured into it, I couldn't bear to throw it away. So, it's understandable why Jae-heon feel attached to his puppets.
- One way to describe Jae-heon would be that he's selfish. He prioritizes his need for revenge over the the suffering he inflicts onto the people he turned into puppets. He also believes that the best way to fulfill one's potential is to only focus on yourself and not do things for the sake of others. That kind of thinking can be good or bad depending on the situation. It's complicated. Like everything else.
- Chesed is really the opposite of Jae-heon in many ways from their attitudes to their philosophy. Their colour sheme is also opposites lol
- just realized that Chesed never focused on taking revenge against Binah or the Head. Sure, he's technically going against the Head rn but he doesn't express much anger over what happened back in his 1st life.
Well, he did rebel against Angela in the previous game but I don't feel like he's doing that purely for himself.
- You're right when you said that Jae-heon might not be able to escape from the cycle he put himself in. Who knows, his long term goal might be to just take revenge after revenge for as long as he feels like it. I assume that's what he did before he found out where Roland is.
- Chesed having mildly smug but not condenscending aura throughout the whole conversation is one of the reasons I love him
Jae-heon uses his puppets as stress balls, nothing more, nothing less...
He takes a person, overrides who they were, and breathes his wrath and anger into them, only to feel the catharsis that’s left afterwards.
I do not think he would have been able to escape the cycle he’s built himself into, due to being unable to face the truth of the puppets he constructs.
He’s not the puppeteer, but just another marionette dancing on strings he strung up himself, dancing and pretending he’s the one pulling all the strings, but he’s only dancing when Argalia tells him to.
It’s interesting that he went to the floor of Social Sciences, since he seems to be a proponent of Hammurabi’s Code (An eye for an eye) given his interactions with Roland, but he also, hypocritically, expresses that he believes that it’s ok to trample others’ dreams for your own in the very act of creating a puppet and in his statement of his ideal world. Yet, he also hypocritically holds onto the wrath he felt when his son died for the first time, and when he was stopped from recreating his son. The only deduction I can make from these conflicting statements and actions is that he’s an ultimately selfish person, who seeks to justify his own ends to himself and nobody more. And Argalia twisted that selfishness to help towards Argalia’s own goal.
Jae-Heon is the opposite of a trustworthy person for the contradictions that his actions and words hold against each other, and is unfaithful for his thinly veiled selfishness. I don’t believe someone can have faith, or be someone worth putting faith in, without the ability and willingness to put yourself into the hands of others.
That’s my interpretation of his character, at least...
[6:14] DAMN, that's a keen eye you've got. I didn't even notice it but that's almost certainly intentional.
Also, Puppet Angelica's pages are actually knockoff versions of the Black Silence's pages. Neato.
Yeah, it's mostly *kinda useless* stuff like this my mind actually stores in the vast emptiness that seems to be my head
Jae Hoon's ability is actually more terrifying once you realize the Puppets are sentient but can no longer speak in any proper language
that's kinda hot, it's like mental bondage
@@LambdadeltaYTGet help
@@LambdadeltaYTAyo
"Gh gh gh gh? Gigigigi... Grr..." - Local puppet opinion about this video
he..he didn't say that!! did he?? i'll show that goddamn puppet!
Breaking news: Local puppet-player crushed by a house, witnesses say it was thrown by a depressed coffee addict. More at 2:00 ...
Jae-heon never overcome his grieve, loosing all trust and faith in himself ...
... mayby he should have started drinking coffee.
Ah, crushed to death. Like father like son.
It seems that Jae-heon's family must have angered some higher being with a love of large heavy objects sometime in the past.
it felt incredibly exhilarating to end him like this
seems like the library of ruina player syndrome of not being able to read is still widespread
which unfortunately applies to me as well
mfw elena got forgotten
9:03
You are not so far from the truth
Jae-heon is probably the character I love the most out of all the villains, because it's probably the one with the most reasons to actually hate Roland, honestly. It saddens me that they treat him as a second violin, not even the first.
While there wasn't a lot of info about why which instrument was given to each Ensemble member (apart from their vibe of course), the reason for me is that Blood Red Night is an offensive attacker and a lifesteal DPS, meanwhile, The Puppeteer is a defense and support focused distortion.
It makes sense to put the offense first then its support.
@@aaronji2838 It's also because Elena essentially "came first" before Jae-Heon, so she gets first violin due to seniority.
when i grow up i want to be a triangle
@@LambdadeltaYT My greatest aspiration is to make fine silk upon death.
Puppeteer is interesting because of how he manages to be so strong with so little going on.
Trying to solo this one was an absolute nightmare just because Angelica hits so freaking hard.
Still, having so few gimmicks also makes him one of the simpler members, it’s all about clashing efficiently to earn the space needed to cut their strings.
..so did you Solo it after all? which deck did you use? I'm genuinely interested, but I think it's possible to have a beefy chesed nugget
I got an unrecorded one with Kalo but Yan is more consistent. Fully enduring blunt is necessary and Yan gives access to both Lock, an answer to Angelica’s puppeteering, and Distorted Blade, a win condition once you get Magic Trick
The successful run with the build used
ua-cam.com/video/IdwKxCpVMEk/v-deo.html
Getting staggered is such a big problem we ended up settling on Oblivion as the only healing and just praying to last long enough
Can't watch yet to not spoil myself, but I'll definitely catch up on your stuff once I finish.
You're really not as bad at the game as you think you are. Like, it's funny to joke about, but don't feel bad: even just making it this far is proof you're good at it.
Also, being fair, Jae-heon is really, really hard
Bad is pretty subjective, so I think the most important part is answering simple question "what criterium divide player" and in LoR i can't think of any meaningful one besides "can you beat it?" by which he certainly isn't bad (at least at this point).
so btw, as you should see from Roland's cards he still has Angelica's mace and axe from that image.
If you look at the pages Angelica uses resemble, Old Boy's workshop, and Zelkova workshop which have images of him using the mace and axe. Top that off with her also having a page similar to Wheels Industry, and I find Jae-heon's puppet of her all the eerier.
old boy's the hammer, right? I don't think angelica used that one
@@Alice-he2zh yeah she has a block into blunt page that restores 3 light, and draws 1 page
Looking at the card I see your point now. That is a hammer used in it and not the mace.
This was definetly one of the more frustrating fights, so I dont blame you for your anger
This fight was so fucking hard on the replay. Never send out the Reindeer squad out on Jae-heon.
As a side note, Tanya's page on this fight makes Jae-heon very trivial. Beatdown constantly on his counter dice to win the free clashes to release the red strings is goated. Erosion also helped with getting Puppet Angelica out of the fight ASAP (used Baleful Brand) before she got red strings. Faster she's gone, the sooner Chesed can drink coffee ww
I kinda want to replay the game now, but I told myself i would wait until it's voiced in japanese to try it out again (afaik it isn't yet)
my favorite series right after Lob is coming to an end :(, but before the next episode comes, I'll play it again.
I think it still might be another 5 episodes or something. Maybe I'll get stuck for a while...??? (let's hope not)
lambda almost filtered by his greatest enemy (reading) once again
already said my bit on this fight on stream so i won't reiterate that here
fuck the Oblivion bug all my homies hate the Oblivion bug
fuck reading i didn't skill into that, all of my points went into endurance and some into luck
Not sure if we already talked about puppets speaking in Quagmire.
But in case we didn't, well they do.
giggidy
Do you reckon Roland asked Chesed if he recovered Angelica's body? For Academic Purposes of course.
i thought that was obvious
Talk about wheezing, I remember one quite fun recording of mine. I was trying to record a game play video on phone. I couldn't turn off the microphone on it, so I just stayed silent. Problem was that I had a dried up running nose. And I didn't quite realize that it was that noticeable at first. It's just so funny to hear loud wheezing at more stressful moments. The lesson to learn: maybe do not record when you feel sick.
microphones are scary, but now I can at least rest easy knowing that I'm annoying my assigned FBI handler a little whenever he has to listen in on me.
More like "Jae-Heon vs My Will to Live" amirite?
Personally this boss fight became really easy using Yujin with a Rapid Gashes + Clone deck.
gashing Yujin is just incredibly broken, I love it
This fight can be drawn out due to the nature of the string buff as well as Angelica being the lynchpin to Jae Hoon's survival, but you can just as easily gimp him by bursting down Nimble, Weighty, and lastly Angelica in rapid succession before they receive their strings. Best part of this is the the sequence of who gets strings when; it can't skip any part of the sequence in the event that unit is gone. (Bust Nimble before Scene 2, Weighty before Scene 3, and Angelica can be burst down before Scene 4, there's still a strong chance she lives through your bumrush anyway.)
Jae-Heon's goal for the world is probably the vaguest of all the ensemble members we've met so far besides maybe Philip, mainly because he seemed to have little interest in talking about it. He seems to be a full-on egoist, though, which makes thematic sense because that puts him in direct opposition to Chesed, who has always been the Sephira to care about others the most. Jae-Heon seems to claim to want people to live solely for themselves, and I can understand that maybe. after all, his love for his son was shattered and after that it seems like his life has only been about finding ways to express the pain and resentment in his heart. maybe he sees caring for others as too much of a burden.
then again, I'm also not convinced that is truly what he wants. another way to interpret his creation of puppets is him forcefully confiding in others, offloading the pain that he cannot deal with alone onto them, an extremely one-directional relationship. the hollowness of this process is perhaps why the results are only temporary, why his pain comes back soon afterwards. on some level he wants people to help him bear the weight of his emotions, but the world he claims to desire would actually only make that harder.
at least, that's my armchair psychoanalysis.
I wish we got more of a glimpse as to the world he wishes for so I had more to go off here. he kinda offhand mentions his hatred for the rich but doesn't particularly elaborate on that beyond that he seems to blame them in part for his son's death. does that mean he also thinks that people shouldn't interfere in the lives of others? (if so, that would put him at odds with Tanya)
I also think it's maybe ironic that the person who claims to want people to live individually is turning people into mindless puppets. just a thought.
for this fight i literally murdered angelica in 2 scenes than murdered either weighty puppet in the next two scenes literally ignoring everyone else unless i was confident they were going to die, the rest of the fight was just wearing down ja hoen and killing the puppets left
yeah, I didn't have the damage to go Angelica first (believe me, I tried a good 2 or 3 tries) so I settled for the heavy, then normal, then nimble.
37:55 I’m sorry to inform you that pages which have their target selected based on certain conditions can ignore “untargetable”.
I still call bullshit on that one. It didn't show any target arrows towards Chesed iirc
@@LambdadeltaYT It did?
Dice head
dice heeeaaaaaaaddd
Mmm, Anger tastes good.
yeah, finally some good fucking anger *chefs kiss*
@@LambdadeltaYT Now, what you want to do is firmly slap that anger, mmm... noice, reeaaal noice, mash and fold it well, yea boai-
Puppet Dad time
In the first version of this reception the lil puppet had infinite puppet strings due to an issue. meaning that you couldn't complete the battle even with hacks cuz he didn't die, pretty funny isn't it?
4:40 it is but actually they had the same name before, jae heon's pages like "tight strings" or whatever they're called were all "puppet strings" so you had to read everything or else meh. for the artwork i guess they're gonna change them after the full release on august... actually i hope cuz it's kinda lame
well that definitely sounds like infinite madness
in 1 month guys,in one month
So I don't know what's going on, I have to post with alternate account. UA-cam keeps deleting my comments. I just wanted to say I finally beat LC while watching your series and these fights definitely reminiscent of day 46 to 49.
I could see your other comment, but only after fiddling around with the comment sorting under the video (newest instead of top) - I don't know why UA-cam sometimes does it, it really sucks and I'm sorry for that.
congratulations on beating LC though! good job, Manager!
Punishment Birb.
28:12 he sounds so calm yet depressed wth
that's meee!
12:16 what's that elf lambda
well it's a delicious chocolate-y brown elf!
in case you were serious though, the sauce is Isekai no Seikishi Monogatari
@@LambdadeltaYT
thanks
hmm, metal gear
Love coffee dad :D
1 minute ago les gooooooooo-
sup
congratulations! be careful while watching this
nice
@@LambdadeltaYT no
Where do you get all these degenerated images you keep putting on all your videos?
On the first try, I just unga-bunged him with Nikolai and Yan's Erosion
upd: Angelica's pages is similar to Roland's
Second easiest fight in difficulty after Oswald only buffed by the user levels of reading comprehension, checks out heh.
The sad part is at the first try you got it right: you have to dogpile the correct Puppet and kill it in one turn so you leave Jae-Heon and his crappy regular puppet for easy picking. if it's any consolation you now can abuse puppet strings with alot of things the best example is Loyalty with Malk's floor or go even more ham with Gebura.
Rage incoming in one... two... three...
Why you breathe so loud, goddamn.
well i was dieded basically
@@LambdadeltaYT fair
Having voiceover, that not allows lambda to speak his thoughts while reading, really kills my enjoyment. 15 min of koreans speaking, maybe lambda can voice thoughts on one point, then overly long and unnecessary long bossfight...
What happened to library? It was so fun at the start and by middle/end it just became a chore of a game?
I think it's alright for these drawn out bossfights and due to the nature of their length I shut up more than I used to before (since I know the episode might become faaaaar too long otherwise)