@@RichterBelmont2235 No, instead of being a Pinky it's another zombie eating the fatzom guts. Which in some sense is kinda worse because it's shows the zombies even attacking themselves.
2002 people!! TWO THOUSAND AND TWO! you never saw anything like this. Even today, play this game in the dark with headphones, one of the most atmospheric games ever. Not the best playing, but an experience.
На мой взгляд, такой и должна быть графика в играх. Тут найден идеальный баланс между реалистичностью картинки (за счет хорошего освещения и эффектов) и задействованием воображения за счет немного утрированных моделей и текстур. Жаль что технологии пошли дальше, а создатели игр не понимают, что они должны выглядеть как сон, а не как реальность.
Потому, что не стоит цели сделать отличную игру. Точнее, целью является симуляция реальности, к этому подталкивает и кино, откуда и пришло в игры много всего. Рано или поздно, человечество научится симулировать полностью реальность. А дальше Вы сами должны понять, зачем это и к чему приведёт.
I always loved the armor from this game, though I felt that it was missing arm bracers or even gloves, but that's just me. But I wished they kept the helmet for the player in the final game, I loved its design
Stanley Kubrick, Tarkovsky. Jimmy Hendrix, Jim Morrison. That is what John Carmack did for the gaming world. Move boundaries, innovate, be bold to be different. No wonder they toned this down for the final release. It looks amazing and convincing, even today. Back in the day, there were dual processor motherboards with quad SLI support. Not even that could run this on 60fps. On a 1024x768 resolution. The definition of avant-garde. System Shock, Thief, Far Cry1, Doom3, Far Cry2, STALKER. The most revolutionary and immersive games of all time. Humanity is in a terrible state of creative and existential crysis.
It's strange that many small details seem better here than in the final version. The smaller bullet holes and larger exit wound blood decals look more convincing, the flashlight effect looks more unique, there is greater use of shadows and reflections to spook, the skinny zombies seem faster, and the imps seem much more random and dangerous. Also, the idea of having more big demons wandering around in big open spaces makes those spaces seem more threatening. Has anyone tried restoring these features to the final game? Also, the demons and bodies flinch when they are hit, and I think there are pain states here, just as there were in the original doom, thus making the world feel more real. Incidentally, you could balance against respawning dead by giving doomguy a special keycard to lock doors, and by making respawn impossible if the dead are critically wounded.
Me as a kid: Doom... I guess it means the doom of mankind we have to prevent. Me as an adult: Doom... I guess it means the doom of hell that we orchestrate lol.
Когда эта технодемка появилась на пиратских дисках в палатках и развалах, торгующих дисками с пиратскими играми, это было блин явление. Такой же примерно шок был и когда слили технодемку Халвы2. У альфы Дум3 изначально стояли по умолчанию кислые настройки, и чтобы все под себя подгонять - разрешение экрана и качество текстур итд нужно было найти файлик с настройками игры и поковырять его по вкусу. Дум3 как выяснилось позже на всех настройках текстур(и всего остального) на максимум, кроме анизотропии и почти недоступного(много ресурсов жрало и было плохо оптимизировано) тогда сглаживания мог есть 500-600Мб видеопамяти уже на разрешении в 1024х768 или 1280х960. Альфа Дум3 насколько я помню, лучше всего на тот момент работала с GeForce 4Ti 4600/4800SE со 128мб видеопамяти(с 64мб видеопамяти или не запускалось все или были дикие тормоза-уже не помню). На тот момент впечатляло конечно ВСЁ и сразу, но больше всего как в игре работало освещение. Вот эти вот качающиеся лампы, вентиляторы оставляющие после себя правильную тень, бамп-мэппинг - на металлических поверхностях итд. Позже своим освещением порадовал Thief: Deadly Shadows. Такие игры как: UNREAL/UT'99, Doom3, Thief Deadly Shadows, Half-Life2 , Far Cry собирали большие обсуждения на форумах типа overclockers. Одним из главных вопросов был конечно же - какой комп потянет ту или иную игру 🙂
Мы запускали ее на Радиках 8500/9000 с 64Мб и проходили. Фреймрейт конечно низкий был, но играбельный, тогда о нем так не пеклись. На этих Радиках были пройдены Дум3, ХЛ2, FEAR, FarCry - все шутеры до 2005 года включительно.
nope its helmet light, bfg edition has a crappy shoulder lamp far inferior lol, both 2004 retail and 2012 bfg edition flashlights suck compared to the helmet light and it was dumb for them to remove doom guys helmet in both retail releases of doom3 which had flashlight was built into.
Man, this version of the game looks more interesting than the final version. I mean, the fact that you can hide from monsters in the shadows is crazy, cause they didn't added that in the final version.
@@machcruiser5592 People are complaining even without survival elements in this game. Almost everyone hates Doom 3, saying that it is not a Doom game but something else. I was thinking the same thing when i first tried the game, but later, when i really got in to it, i started to like it more and more, each time i play it. And now i can say that, Doom 3 is one of the most underrated games out there. Sure, it is a experiment with a popular series, but not a bad one, that's for sure. If only people knew back then, about Doom 64... All of their hate could gone because, that is the real Doom 3. It has horror elements, dark atmosphere and stuff like that. But it plays like original Doom. All tho, if you change the atmosphere in original Doom to a darker one, then it will be a horror game. Seriously, don't tell me that you were not scared of imps and other monsters, when you were first time playing original Doom as a kid. I was for sure. Even despite the fact that, my first Doom game was Doom RPG on old Nokia phone.
@@deathcold_longplaysua4846 we could have Had ome of the coolest doom games ! Hiding and surviving even with the best firepower ! Still overwelmed ! Just trying to last !
I think Alpha version has more atmosphere it looks just different in the good way. I’m little surprise why still no body makes a new game of a mod basing on Alpha version.
There one: Doom 3 retold. Available on ModDB It tries to mimic the alpha gameplay in the closest way possible. Directly takin stuff from the E3. I should Know, I made the mod.
@@Pygargue00frHey there. I'm the creator of the Overzealous mod on moddb for Doom 3. I checked out your mod and it's cool. Are you still working on it? Also, can I use some assets from your mod with credit?
@@blackagent4754 Hi there, yes I am still working on it, I am currently completely remaking it from scratch, the assets aren't really mine, just stuff from the e3 and a few custom ones made by modders on moddb, so go ahead! thanks! I recently figured out how to slow down animations, so the shotgun reload and weapon switching will finally match the speed of theirs e3 counterpart! quick question, could I use your raygun model, Turns out there was gonna be one at some point and I would like to implement it, another thing that I need to to are trowable flares, wich I have no clue how to do:)
I had a GF4 Ti4800 when I downloaded this. Ran REALLY bad, but still looked incredible. Shame that ATI leaked the code onto the web, that made iD Software sour on them and cancel their relationship with the games development for R300 specifically. iD swapped over to developing for Nvidia instead, hence why Radeon had a performance defacit in the game on it's full release. When the game came out, I sold my GF4 Ti and bought a 6800XT just to experience Doom III at max settings. Great game, still play it every few years - only now in 4K on my OLED TV! :D
Lol the fact that the 6800 XT is now a card in production.. although I think you were talking about the 9800 at the time.. that being said, there were more than a few reasons as to why they switched, and a lot of it had to do with ATI not supporting the latest pixel shaders at the time... As well, This was before Nvidia had burned every bridge in its local area... And they wanted to be involved in these things, as well there was a Mac relationship which Nvidia was part of, before they you know.. doused it in gasoline as would be their way for the next.. well still. Lol. ATI did a.. well they did a thing that modern Radeon does very often, as well as AMD, they get complacent when they're ahead. I had a 9800 pro, and when that first far cry demo came out... I knew that I was going to have to spend some money for the next generation of PC games.. It was the first computer I ever bought though in all fairness, One of only two moments in time where I sat at the very top of the line.. back when that was a thing that you could afford if you made smart purchases. I'll tell you what though, far cry made Half-Life 2 and Doom 3 kind of... Kind of disappointing in the end.. and visually, each one brought things to the table but none of them really brought any improvements to gameplay in the terms of the primary mechanic of the shooting.. and for the most part far cry have the real-time shadows, better physics than Doom 3, not as much as Half-Life 2.. Way better shooting than both, way better gameplay and level design... Significantly worse voice acting lol.. But you know.. Man I really thought that was going to be the future, like how could you go back from that in my head.. and then the 7th generation happened and cleaned up what the Xbox already hadn't in the complete dilapidation of the PC as a platform to design games for. I just wish it wasn't so insulting so much as to do it with the sequels of really great games like fear, far cry, system shock, etc..
Самое начало выглядит шикарно, эта красноватая дымка, и застреленные зомбаки, которые встают за спиной, это были реально крутые находки, жаль что от них отказались
Она к середине становится скучной и однообразной. Бесконечные импы снова и снова, повтор за повтором. Там было потом какое-то дополнение с артефактом в виде сердца, оно имхо получше было.
@@stratejic1020 If you play the alpha, then compare the final game. You will notice the difference. Alpha 's corpse won't disappear. And zombies are harder to kill.
@@jasonlou2013S yes but you got to realize why that is, firstly the maps in the final build are much larger and have way more in them and it would just cause a lot more lag. Also the zombies aren't supposed to be harder to kill they're already hard enough in the final build because they wanted to have a mix between action-packed and making you feel like a badass but horror at the same time which they pulled off very well on the final build and while it was pulled off well in the demo the demo was frustrating. Also the scares in the demo are cheap and just aren't scary but a lot of the scares in Doom 3 are still scary today. Don't get me wrong I think that the alpha build is really good for its time but I just don't think it stands up to the final build for many reasons.
@@stratejic1020 I just wanted to enjoy the horror of Doom3. Not think too much. Of course this is a demo. In final game, they changed tons of features to fit machines in that time. Like 6600gt, x700, 6800agp. Wow, that's 15 years ago. Finally, don't forget he'll knight can not be killed in demo but can be eliminated in final game.
Because they were made for a small subsect of the population and now are made for everyone. There are still games like this, just don't expect them to be developed by big companies, which are now struggling even with all the people they try to attract. Give Trepang2 a try
A word of warning for everyone who follows this fix: Makes sure that you check that in NVIDIA profile inspector, in the "other" section, "Enable application for optimus" is set to "0x00000001 SHIM_RENDERING_MODE_ENABLE"
I keep saying over and over, a team could try to make Doom 3 into the prototype that was discarded. It would be great as a bizarre survival. I guess in the end an action game sells more, perhaps it was a financial decision to remove feats.
I belive both the body and pentagram were in the actual game, but the pentagram was drawn on the seeling and the body was hanging off it... They were never on a floor like in the demo.
Wish they went ahead and made mars city like they made in this demo, but sadly I'm sure there were too many technical constraints preventing the execution.
It makes me happy to see how many people give proper credit to D3. It was an awesome game only to be surpassed (IMO) only by DOOM 2016. Fuck the haters
Man, the death animations looks great, I would have liked they had keep the death animations and the bodies on the place in the final version, and zombies respawning would have been a great detail too, they could have done this with demons too, that could have added a random situation factor to the game, killing some zombies and demons in a place, you leave the place and the monsters revive to following you or wait to the next time you pass there, but not all the monsters just 1 or 2 reviving randomly and just a second time or even sometimes don't reviving at all or just some times reviving for a third time, and you can't avoid this unexpected situations until you found powerfull weapons like the granades or rockets to destroy their bodies or the chainsaw, the chainsaw would have been a tool to clear areas of the bodies of zombies and demons.
I always felt the alpha had better atmosphere and that Doom 3 would've been a better game if they went in this direction, the better and creepier sound design also adds to it.
Other than the fact that Doom Guy looks like he has shit himself whenever he waddles, game is faster paced, monsters don't dissapear after you kill them seems better than the final version.
No but it’s just an “alpha” demo. It was more about showing off the dynamic lighting and the stuff the engine could do. The movement is way awkward and they only did bare bones voice acting for this since it’s not even a trailer.
ДУМ3, который мы так и не получили. Альфа была гораздо страшнее и атмосфернее финальной игры. Липкая атмосфера ужаса, клаустрофобия, плоть и металл - все это буквально кожой ощущалось. В финальной игре ничего подобного не испытывал.
@@nealpage9449 This E3 build seems different than other Doom 3 E3 demos. Especially the low ammo warning on the Assault Rifle at: 12:06 . Do you still have this build, so that other people can play this version? Thank you so much for fixing the graphical issues that are present in older Doom 3 E3 demos! :D
Noticed the new fix through ModDB, but was disappointed to realize it's Nvidia only. I'm stuck to an AMD card and tried a lot of console methods and wrappers just to see what works.
Most similar to what may happen in reality - dark and scary. With electricity and comms malfunctions. I think Doom 3 isn't this funny, but pretty close to real situation. Considering that reality won't get you alive from Mars base. Alpha version just confirms it.
Yes it freaked the s*** out of me back then. I remember staying over a zombie for a minute just to wait if he comes back. It was very scary as a child.
@@raahim11Except for the fact that the Doom 3 Shotgun requires the player to be two-feet in front of the enemy to be used effectively and even then it's not the best Shotgun in a Doom game.
What I like a lot in this version that bodies don't simply burn away on death. That was such a clown move from the final version. I remembered painting the walls red in the OG Dooms and then in Doom 3...nothing. I mean, I absolutely loved the game for what it was, but there were some minor details I didn't like.
It was just to have a way to maintain suspension of disbelief for the player while at the same time optimizing a game for computers of the time. There's a config line that removes this and keeps the bodies from disapearing. I remember because I didn't want my dead strogg "teleporting" when I played Quake 4 years after release.
The engine was 6 years old already. Those revolutionary ideas of Carmack did not bode well with the old engine. He upgraded the engine of course every one or two years, but it shown its age in Doom3. This is why the final version chose the path for "optimization". And lacked already shaders who were present in quake3, especially those refined metallic shaders that you see in quake3 the map q3tourney4 -those shaders were admittedly heavy even on the quake3 engine who used compiled lightning so they removed that shiny block in pro-q3tourney4.
@@nealpage9449 Hello again, friend :) Do you have an idea for AMD RX / Radeon graphics cards so that the game displays shiny maps again? On Nvidia cards in nvinspector it was possible to set an extension limit, do you know how to set an extension limit for AMD / ATI cards?
@@deepwashington499Agree, don't know why people dickride the alpha sound that much. It's mostly stock and boring sounds from a free pack probably. And that shotgun looks terrible.
@@homopoluza it's to make sure performance from your PC doesn't tank, you have to remember that Doom 1 and 2 enemies we're 2D sprites, Doom 3 had 3D models. Completely different
Back in the day it would seriously tank performance to have that many models on screen at once. It's why Quake 4 does it too. I know there's a tweaker to remove that from Q4, so I'm sure there's one for Doom 3 as well.
Dosn't include the levels, it's just a gameplay mod trought. It brings back the original shotgun model and clip, player speed, fix armor, add crawling imps back, the sound effects and the hud. Very cool
Actually you can kill the hell knight from above very easily, just need to stand on the right spot, you will see the top of the head, shoot, kill AAAAAAND Nothing willl happen. :) It will be dead and the game ending is broken. Yeah it was alpha and I achieved it with about 5PFS 20years ago... :D
A bit like with Quake3 - the alpha appeared more id than the final product. The company lost their way(and most important members) in the later 90ies and never recovered.
@@OpenMawProductions The alpha (IHV) should be around somewhere(there's quite a few videos on here - ua-cam.com/video/4d7XFM7UT88/v-deo.html ) - it was a test version for the various 3D card companies. It is rough but is has a different charm. Just look and run around in the "alpha"... you may get an impression quite different from the final product.
I always love how the Doom marine comes waddling out of the elevator like he just shat himself.
2:52
😂
Well, maybe he did. All that stuff happening around, you know xD
such an old game with impressive graphics for its time
You forget about The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, his came out first then DOOM3! and have better graphics!
This is definitely tech demo, but extraordinary graphics for 2002
Definitely!
I remember buying my first graphics card for this one
@@happybuggy1582 My first graphics card was a HD Radeon 4550 which i bought for Doom 3 and CS:S.
I can't wait for this game to come out
You are 20 years late....
"Only one man stands between Hell and earth...." And judging by his walking animation, he just SHIT. HIS. PANTS.
this was better than the released version
2:53 doom guy walks like he shat his pants LMAO!
😂😂
Lol
That Pinky bursting from pipes sequence should've been kept in the final game. Very good scene.
There's a similar scene in the retail
@@Thesavagesouls you mean the pinky intro scene?
@@Thesavagesouls no unfortunately, but they used this in first Level of Quake 4 with a fat strogg
@@RichterBelmont2235 No, instead of being a Pinky it's another zombie eating the fatzom guts. Which in some sense is kinda worse because it's shows the zombies even attacking themselves.
John Carmack said it was removed because everyone had already seen it, so it wouldn't have been scary anymore.
2002 people!!
TWO THOUSAND AND TWO!
you never saw anything like this.
Even today, play this game in the dark with headphones, one of the most atmospheric games ever. Not the best playing, but an experience.
На мой взгляд, такой и должна быть графика в играх. Тут найден идеальный баланс между реалистичностью картинки (за счет хорошего освещения и эффектов) и задействованием воображения за счет немного утрированных моделей и текстур. Жаль что технологии пошли дальше, а создатели игр не понимают, что они должны выглядеть как сон, а не как реальность.
Дичайше плюсую, за реализмом мы начали терять стилизацию и художественность.
Вот именно поэтому мы до сих пор играем в Морровинд. Я, во всяком случае
@@vadimc2144 Сам на телефоне иногда поигрываю в морку, а так обла чуть больше всё же нравится, в плане стилистики, визуала и квестов
@@D_SMILE101 Облу тоже играю, она по-своему хороша. Не менее атмосферная - просто атмосфера другая.
Потому, что не стоит цели сделать отличную игру. Точнее, целью является симуляция реальности, к этому подталкивает и кино, откуда и пришло в игры много всего. Рано или поздно, человечество научится симулировать полностью реальность. А дальше Вы сами должны понять, зачем это и к чему приведёт.
I always loved the armor from this game, though I felt that it was missing arm bracers or even gloves, but that's just me. But I wished they kept the helmet for the player in the final game, I loved its design
Same.
It looks really good, you mentioned you will make a video, we are still waiting for it.
Added in the description to the video
Stanley Kubrick, Tarkovsky. Jimmy Hendrix, Jim Morrison.
That is what John Carmack did for the gaming world.
Move boundaries, innovate, be bold to be different.
No wonder they toned this down for the final release.
It looks amazing and convincing, even today.
Back in the day, there were dual processor motherboards with quad SLI support. Not even that could run this on 60fps. On a 1024x768 resolution.
The definition of avant-garde.
System Shock, Thief, Far Cry1, Doom3, Far Cry2, STALKER.
The most revolutionary and immersive games of all time.
Humanity is in a terrible state of creative and existential crysis.
What movies from Tarkovsky?
Nah, humanity is fine in general.
Ps: why tf are you saying random names?
Game really look like this in 2002? Amazing
It's strange that many small details seem better here than in the final version. The smaller bullet holes and larger exit wound blood decals look more convincing, the flashlight effect looks more unique, there is greater use of shadows and reflections to spook, the skinny zombies seem faster, and the imps seem much more random and dangerous. Also, the idea of having more big demons wandering around in big open spaces makes those spaces seem more threatening. Has anyone tried restoring these features to the final game?
Also, the demons and bodies flinch when they are hit, and I think there are pain states here, just as there were in the original doom, thus making the world feel more real.
Incidentally, you could balance against respawning dead by giving doomguy a special keycard to lock doors, and by making respawn impossible if the dead are critically wounded.
The weapon sound as well.
Not strange at all considering modern E3 trailers :D (The Division, Watchdogs, Siege e.t.c.) But have to agree, this version does look really great.
Shoulder/Gun mounted flashlight in the alpha...why oh why did they get rid of it?
Tbh I’d say a large portion of this demo is better
@@mbogucki1 because it made the game better to not have that. Realism isn't what Doom is about. Those flashlight sections were TENSE.
Me as a kid: Doom... I guess it means the doom of mankind we have to prevent.
Me as an adult: Doom... I guess it means the doom of hell that we orchestrate lol.
Walking and chewing gum? Killing 15 birds with 400 bullets? Same thing basically. It's called multitasking, I think it's a chick thing?
Когда эта технодемка появилась на пиратских дисках в палатках и развалах, торгующих дисками с пиратскими играми, это было блин явление. Такой же примерно шок был и когда слили технодемку Халвы2.
У альфы Дум3 изначально стояли по умолчанию кислые настройки, и чтобы все под себя подгонять - разрешение экрана и качество текстур итд нужно было найти файлик с настройками игры и поковырять его по вкусу. Дум3 как выяснилось позже на всех настройках текстур(и всего остального) на максимум, кроме анизотропии и почти недоступного(много ресурсов жрало и было плохо оптимизировано) тогда сглаживания мог есть 500-600Мб видеопамяти уже на разрешении в 1024х768 или 1280х960. Альфа Дум3 насколько я помню, лучше всего на тот момент работала с GeForce 4Ti 4600/4800SE со 128мб видеопамяти(с 64мб видеопамяти или не запускалось все или были дикие тормоза-уже не помню). На тот момент впечатляло конечно ВСЁ и сразу, но больше всего как в игре работало освещение. Вот эти вот качающиеся лампы, вентиляторы оставляющие после себя правильную тень, бамп-мэппинг - на металлических поверхностях итд. Позже своим освещением порадовал Thief: Deadly Shadows. Такие игры как: UNREAL/UT'99, Doom3, Thief Deadly Shadows, Half-Life2 , Far Cry собирали большие обсуждения на форумах типа overclockers. Одним из главных вопросов был конечно же - какой комп потянет ту или иную игру 🙂
Мы запускали ее на Радиках 8500/9000 с 64Мб и проходили. Фреймрейт конечно низкий был, но играбельный, тогда о нем так не пеклись. На этих Радиках были пройдены Дум3, ХЛ2, FEAR, FarCry - все шутеры до 2005 года включительно.
I am just amazed by this demo.
I remember when doom 3 was released. it was in every GameStop. and i remember saying to myself i wish i had an xbox.
I played the original Xbox version originally and that version is pretty damn good. Though some things had to be changed/cut.
@@erebusman26 Originally?
11:43 Oh, look, the gun has an attached flashlight. Nice! Just like the BFG edition. 😊
Good video, thanks!
nope its helmet light, bfg edition has a crappy shoulder lamp far inferior lol, both 2004 retail and 2012 bfg edition flashlights suck compared to the helmet light and it was dumb for them to remove doom guys helmet in both retail releases of doom3 which had flashlight was built into.
that intro cutscene have strong SFM vibes
everyone's movements are so goofy there
Thats how most animations looked in games during the late 90s and early 2000s
Man, this version of the game looks more interesting than the final version. I mean, the fact that you can hide from monsters in the shadows is crazy, cause they didn't added that in the final version.
Indeed! they should do an update for it to the bfg version.
I can see why they took it tho. People would complain even more about Doom 3 because of that added survival horror element.
@@machcruiser5592 People are complaining even without survival elements in this game. Almost everyone hates Doom 3, saying that it is not a Doom game but something else. I was thinking the same thing when i first tried the game, but later, when i really got in to it, i started to like it more and more, each time i play it. And now i can say that, Doom 3 is one of the most underrated games out there. Sure, it is a experiment with a popular series, but not a bad one, that's for sure. If only people knew back then, about Doom 64... All of their hate could gone because, that is the real Doom 3. It has horror elements, dark atmosphere and stuff like that. But it plays like original Doom. All tho, if you change the atmosphere in original Doom to a darker one, then it will be a horror game. Seriously, don't tell me that you were not scared of imps and other monsters, when you were first time playing original Doom as a kid. I was for sure. Even despite the fact that, my first Doom game was Doom RPG on old Nokia phone.
@@deathcold_longplaysua4846 correct ! Back in the Day the ID fan boys were roasting doom 3 for the dimbest reasons !!!
@@deathcold_longplaysua4846 we could have Had ome of the coolest doom games ! Hiding and surviving even with the best firepower ! Still overwelmed ! Just trying to last !
I think Alpha version has more atmosphere it looks just different in the good way.
I’m little surprise why still no body makes a new game of a mod basing on Alpha version.
yep
There one: Doom 3 retold. Available on ModDB
It tries to mimic the alpha gameplay in the closest way possible. Directly takin stuff from the E3.
I should Know, I made the mod.
@@Pygargue00frHey there. I'm the creator of the Overzealous mod on moddb for Doom 3. I checked out your mod and it's cool. Are you still working on it? Also, can I use some assets from your mod with credit?
@@blackagent4754 Hi there, yes I am still working on it, I am currently completely remaking it from scratch, the assets aren't really mine, just stuff from the e3 and a few custom ones made by modders on moddb, so go ahead! thanks! I recently figured out how to slow down animations, so the shotgun reload and weapon switching will finally match the speed of theirs e3 counterpart!
quick question, could I use your raygun model, Turns out there was gonna be one at some point and I would like to implement it, another thing that I need to to are trowable flares, wich I have no clue how to do:)
@@Pygargue00fr Hey, I messaged you on moddb. I keep trying to reply to you on UA-cam, but it keeps deleting my comments for some reason.
I remember that I had to buy a Ati Radeon 9800pro to play this game.
I had a GF4 Ti4800 when I downloaded this. Ran REALLY bad, but still looked incredible. Shame that ATI leaked the code onto the web, that made iD Software sour on them and cancel their relationship with the games development for R300 specifically. iD swapped over to developing for Nvidia instead, hence why Radeon had a performance defacit in the game on it's full release.
When the game came out, I sold my GF4 Ti and bought a 6800XT just to experience Doom III at max settings. Great game, still play it every few years - only now in 4K on my OLED TV! :D
Tell it to my MX440 :) When game came out I upgraded to ti4200... Still was mindblown.
Lol the fact that the 6800 XT is now a card in production.. although I think you were talking about the 9800 at the time.. that being said, there were more than a few reasons as to why they switched, and a lot of it had to do with ATI not supporting the latest pixel shaders at the time... As well, This was before Nvidia had burned every bridge in its local area... And they wanted to be involved in these things, as well there was a Mac relationship which Nvidia was part of, before they you know.. doused it in gasoline as would be their way for the next.. well still. Lol.
ATI did a.. well they did a thing that modern Radeon does very often, as well as AMD, they get complacent when they're ahead. I had a 9800 pro, and when that first far cry demo came out... I knew that I was going to have to spend some money for the next generation of PC games.. It was the first computer I ever bought though in all fairness, One of only two moments in time where I sat at the very top of the line.. back when that was a thing that you could afford if you made smart purchases.
I'll tell you what though, far cry made Half-Life 2 and Doom 3 kind of... Kind of disappointing in the end.. and visually, each one brought things to the table but none of them really brought any improvements to gameplay in the terms of the primary mechanic of the shooting.. and for the most part far cry have the real-time shadows, better physics than Doom 3, not as much as Half-Life 2.. Way better shooting than both, way better gameplay and level design... Significantly worse voice acting lol.. But you know..
Man I really thought that was going to be the future, like how could you go back from that in my head.. and then the 7th generation happened and cleaned up what the Xbox already hadn't in the complete dilapidation of the PC as a platform to design games for. I just wish it wasn't so insulting so much as to do it with the sequels of really great games like fear, far cry, system shock, etc..
Самое начало выглядит шикарно, эта красноватая дымка, и застреленные зомбаки, которые встают за спиной, это были реально крутые находки, жаль что от них отказались
Лучшая игра этой серии, DOOM 3 , это лучшее что могли бы придумать, больше и лучше этого не будет.
Она к середине становится скучной и однообразной. Бесконечные импы снова и снова, повтор за повтором. Там было потом какое-то дополнение с артефактом в виде сердца, оно имхо получше было.
Ну если считать ее хоррором то да, а так дум про быстрый геймплей и мясорубку
согласен, дум 3 больше похож на оригинал по геймплею, чем етерналы все эти
@@WindRunner04 дум 2016 года уже на 1 уровне становится скучным и однообразным )
@@ivanivanov5213 поэтому я даже не притрагивался к нему
This is even more scarier than final game.
Thats true :)
I disagree I think this is very tame in comparison
@@stratejic1020 If you play the alpha, then compare the final game. You will notice the difference. Alpha 's corpse won't disappear. And zombies are harder to kill.
@@jasonlou2013S yes but you got to realize why that is, firstly the maps in the final build are much larger and have way more in them and it would just cause a lot more lag.
Also the zombies aren't supposed to be harder to kill they're already hard enough in the final build because they wanted to have a mix between action-packed and making you feel like a badass but horror at the same time which they pulled off very well on the final build and while it was pulled off well in the demo the demo was frustrating.
Also the scares in the demo are cheap and just aren't scary but a lot of the scares in Doom 3 are still scary today.
Don't get me wrong I think that the alpha build is really good for its time but I just don't think it stands up to the final build for many reasons.
@@stratejic1020 I just wanted to enjoy the horror of Doom3. Not think too much. Of course this is a demo. In final game, they changed tons of features to fit machines in that time. Like 6600gt, x700, 6800agp. Wow, that's 15 years ago. Finally, don't forget he'll knight can not be killed in demo but can be eliminated in final game.
John Carmack is a master of his craft.
dude walked like he poo'd his pants
The machine gun in Doom3 alpha demo looks great, it think it looks better and sounds better than in the final version!
Still wish he could put on a helmet but sense he never wears it in the final game anyways this is the only time he does it.
I'm surprised someone hasn't made a map pack in the style of the alpha. Closet thing I know of is the maps people made for the alpha.
The machine gun was strong as hell then.
Why aren't games like this anymore?
Because they were made for a small subsect of the population and now are made for everyone.
There are still games like this, just don't expect them to be developed by big companies, which are now struggling even with all the people they try to attract.
Give Trepang2 a try
Because generation of soyjaks
A word of warning for everyone who follows this fix: Makes sure that you check that in NVIDIA profile inspector, in the "other" section, "Enable application for optimus" is set to "0x00000001 SHIM_RENDERING_MODE_ENABLE"
I keep saying over and over, a team could try to make Doom 3 into the prototype that was discarded. It would be great as a bizarre survival. I guess in the end an action game sells more, perhaps it was a financial decision to remove feats.
Before there was doom 2016 and doom eternal. There was doom 3.
2:34 The textures of the body and the pentagram have been kept in the Doom 3 files
I belive both the body and pentagram were in the actual game, but the pentagram was drawn on the seeling and the body was hanging off it... They were never on a floor like in the demo.
@@wildesthog exactly, the body can be seen in the elevator to reach cyberdemon, end of the game
Wish they went ahead and made mars city like they made in this demo, but sadly I'm sure there were too many technical constraints preventing the execution.
E foi daí que começou a minha paixão!
Damn most comments are from days ago, Doom 3 really is underrated.
Its the best game out of the entire franchise. I dont care what the fat edgelord neckbeards say.
@@AndalusianPrince preech i feel the same
It makes me happy to see how many people give proper credit to D3. It was an awesome game only to be surpassed (IMO) only by DOOM 2016. Fuck the haters
The old Doom 3 logo looked miles better and stronger.
**silent shotgun sound**
Yeah.... right.....
Man, the death animations looks great, I would have liked they had keep the death animations and the bodies on the place in the final version, and zombies respawning would have been a great detail too, they could have done this with demons too, that could have added a random situation factor to the game, killing some zombies and demons in a place, you leave the place and the monsters revive to following you or wait to the next time you pass there, but not all the monsters just 1 or 2 reviving randomly and just a second time or even sometimes don't reviving at all or just some times reviving for a third time, and you can't avoid this unexpected situations until you found powerfull weapons like the granades or rockets to destroy their bodies or the chainsaw, the chainsaw would have been a tool to clear areas of the bodies of zombies and demons.
man doom Doom 3 looked damn good for when it came out
and this is technically from TWO YEARS before that!
т.е. фонарик был изначально встроен , а потом его отдельно сделали :)
фонарик включался читами через консоль, его по факту там не было и никто им не пользовался в 2002-2003
I always felt the alpha had better atmosphere and that Doom 3 would've been a better game if they went in this direction, the better and creepier sound design also adds to it.
Дробовик выглядел лучше чем на релизе
Это точно, и отдача нормальная
и как я понял разлет поменьше был, можно было на средней шотить
@@diemneumeret Не понятно почему изменили.
@@ragechok9932решили забалансить, но лучше бы у него урон урезали.
@@ragechok9932в релизе у меня получилось убить рыцаря ада с трех выстрелов дробовика. И все в голову.
Other than the fact that Doom Guy looks like he has shit himself whenever he waddles, game is faster paced, monsters don't dissapear after you kill them seems better than the final version.
Am I the only one thay gets "B Movie" vibes from this?
No but it’s just an “alpha” demo. It was more about showing off the dynamic lighting and the stuff the engine could do.
The movement is way awkward and they only did bare bones voice acting for this since it’s not even a trailer.
Помню в 2003 покупал видяхи джи форс 3 и там бонусом давали диск с этой демкой
ДУМ3, который мы так и не получили. Альфа была гораздо страшнее и атмосфернее финальной игры. Липкая атмосфера ужаса, клаустрофобия, плоть и металл - все это буквально кожой ощущалось. В финальной игре ничего подобного не испытывал.
Ты ошибаешься
Holy shit, you got highlights to work again! Now the demo shines as much as it's original presentation. How'd you get it?
I will make a video soon
@@nealpage9449 This E3 build seems different than other Doom 3 E3 demos. Especially the low ammo warning on the Assault Rifle at: 12:06 .
Do you still have this build, so that other people can play this version? Thank you so much for fixing the graphical issues that are present in older Doom 3 E3 demos! :D
Noticed the new fix through ModDB, but was disappointed to realize it's Nvidia only. I'm stuck to an AMD card and tried a lot of console methods and wrappers just to see what works.
Most similar to what may happen in reality - dark and scary. With electricity and comms malfunctions.
I think Doom 3 isn't this funny, but pretty close to real situation. Considering that reality won't get you alive from Mars base.
Alpha version just confirms it.
They should've kept some of these features in the final game. The zombie fake death is pretty cool and is resident evil esque.
Yes it freaked the s*** out of me back then. I remember staying over a zombie for a minute just to wait if he comes back. It was very scary as a child.
If they made doom 3 like the alpha it would have been one of the best👌 this alpha trumps doom3+big am Any mod all together.
@@Magdrops Nah,
Alpha is good and All, But Doom 3 did almost everything better.
The Shotgun is definitely better in the Alpha however
@@raahim11Except for the fact that the Doom 3 Shotgun requires the player to be two-feet in front of the enemy to be used effectively and even then it's not the best Shotgun in a Doom game.
@@griffingower1883 Like i said, Shotgun was def better in the alpha compared to the main game.
even more darker than doom 2016 👻
Hey, do you have this fixed version of the demo available for download? I would love to play this myself!
@nmagalhaes lopes jesse what the fuck are you talking about???
This looks like 4:3 stretched to 16:19. Should have kept it square.
Where did you get this version? I would love to get a copy!
Эх....... ностальгия
I remember playing this game. Had some good jump scare moments.
3:48 - a normal flashlight, wow
Блин, даже в альфа-версии фонарик нагрудный и дробовик более кучно стреляет...
scarier and visuals a lot better than final version , for example volumetric shadows have been in alpha but in final not :(
What I like a lot in this version that bodies don't simply burn away on death. That was such a clown move from the final version. I remembered painting the walls red in the OG Dooms and then in Doom 3...nothing. I mean, I absolutely loved the game for what it was, but there were some minor details I didn't like.
It was just to have a way to maintain suspension of disbelief for the player while at the same time optimizing a game for computers of the time.
There's a config line that removes this and keeps the bodies from disapearing. I remember because I didn't want my dead strogg "teleporting" when I played Quake 4 years after release.
The imps are terrifying
They looked much better in doom II
@@Flofy387okay?
Man i cant believe they have ran demo on some machine with that graphics in 2002
Obviously it wasn't that high resolution back then, 640x480 max for most machines AND no specular highlights.
So the dead bodies disappearing in D3 was done due to the engine limitations?
Nope, optimisation
The engine was 6 years old already. Those revolutionary ideas of Carmack did not bode well with the old engine. He upgraded the engine of course every one or two years, but it shown its age in Doom3. This is why the final version chose the path for "optimization". And lacked already shaders who were present in quake3, especially those refined metallic shaders that you see in quake3 the map q3tourney4 -those shaders were admittedly heavy even on the quake3 engine who used compiled lightning so they removed that shiny block in pro-q3tourney4.
Can't believe that shotgun made it through alpha and beta. It's a complete joke.
Trash spread, but that's not the point, it killed almost every1 point blank.
Thanks @TheDanonon everything flashes like 2002 :)
Thank you! :)
@@nealpage9449 Hello again, friend :) Do you have an idea for AMD RX / Radeon graphics cards so that the game displays shiny maps again? On Nvidia cards in nvinspector it was possible to set an extension limit, do you know how to set an extension limit for AMD / ATI cards?
This is mutch Better than the Final Version.
No
Definitely not. But surely a gorgeous demo
The chaingun sounds like the venom on RTCw
one question, how to fix the bullet hole decals, normally the texture is seen with a black outline, how did you fix it?
Nice rare alpha
You went crazy. The final version is much better.
Not shotgun and sounds
@@resonantJayZondude the shotgun sounds like shit in the alpha.
@@resonantJayZonbut I definitely agree with the look of the alpha shotgun more.
@@deepwashington499Agree, don't know why people dickride the alpha sound that much. It's mostly stock and boring sounds from a free pack probably.
And that shotgun looks terrible.
Всегда боялся анимаций главного героя не меньше, чем чудовищ.
this is some serious slav-jank if I ever saw it.
Thx ATI technologies
It's a shame that bodies in final version was disappeared after a kill
Thats the original doom style like why are you whining.
@@AndalusianPrince No it's not. Bodies in Doom 1 & 2 stay after death.
@@homopoluza it's to make sure performance from your PC doesn't tank, you have to remember that Doom 1 and 2 enemies we're 2D sprites, Doom 3 had 3D models. Completely different
there are mods that disable this
Back in the day it would seriously tank performance to have that many models on screen at once. It's why Quake 4 does it too. I know there's a tweaker to remove that from Q4, so I'm sure there's one for Doom 3 as well.
Is there any mod that tries to bring it to the final game?
Yeah. It's called Doom 3 retold and is available on ModDB
Dosn't include the levels, it's just a gameplay mod trought.
It brings back the original shotgun model and clip, player speed, fix armor, add crawling imps back, the sound effects and the hud. Very cool
I would like to play this doom 3 alpha demo if it's available for download.
the intro is like new doom games
How have you enabled bump-mapping?
Added instructions to the description
@@nealpage9449 and how to fix artifacts?
@@MegaPro100alex Returned to the description under the video. Good luck =)
Actually you can kill the hell knight from above very easily, just need to stand on the right spot, you will see the top of the head, shoot, kill
AAAAAAND
Nothing willl happen. :)
It will be dead and the game ending is broken.
Yeah it was alpha and I achieved it with about 5PFS 20years ago... :D
I don't think that is on yt tho right?
A bit like with Quake3 - the alpha appeared more id than the final product. The company lost their way(and most important members) in the later 90ies and never recovered.
Quake 3 was easily the best game id ever made and the alphas has big flaws that were addressed at release.
@@Wobbothe3rd Stylistically the final product did not have the charm of the alpha.
Doom 3 had almost all the Doom ogs working on it so youre chattin shit.
@@brucetungsten5714 Would you mind going into some of those details? I never played early versions of Quake 3. I'd love to hear about this!
@@OpenMawProductions The alpha (IHV) should be around somewhere(there's quite a few videos on here - ua-cam.com/video/4d7XFM7UT88/v-deo.html ) - it was a test version for the various 3D card companies. It is rough but is has a different charm. Just look and run around in the "alpha"... you may get an impression quite different from the final product.
Вот таким должен быть дум, серым и мрачным, а не детской разукраской как сейчас
Как раз таки нет
Таким должен был быть дум 3
Но концовка не должна быть такой плохой.
Really i like, and for Doom 1,2 too , UT5 for me is great technique
Shhhh.
The best of the leaked version was the editor.
Do you know where we can find last beta from 2003?
There were soft shadows in original demo.
It didn't exist in the alpha version.
If only there were a mod to replace the black powder muzzle smokes with this E3 version's muzzle smokes, I would want that mod immediately!
O DoomGuy anda como se estivesse todo cagado
Tá cagado de medo
It works, but I can't active bump mapping.. Any suggestion?
In description
does anyone know hot to fix the graphics for this? I have the alpha but all characters and weapons are bright with very low quality textures.
In description
Cool!!!
Я извиняюсь а скачать где? В описании ничего
Never realized Doom guy looked like a young Frank Sinatra, until now. 😳🤣
didn't find flashlight key in doomconfig，how to use the flashlight？
Press f
It's a shoulder mounted flashlight like in the bfg edition
@@Pygargue00frnot working
@@resonantJayZon strange, id did work for me. I had downloaded a modfied version with custom maps ages ago, so I guess that's why....
Frag mich warum das nicht im Spiel gelandet ist der Anfang ist schon 3 mal besser 😅
4:25 what happens when you shoot him
Nothing