It's interesting that the scenario puts you through P4 at London Bridge, which is one of the Thameslink platforms rather than 6 or 7 which would be the normal ones for services from Charing Cross
On this route it's the old London Bridge station before the big rebuild, which back then P4 was all southbound trains from Charing Cross. Thameslink southbound trains used P5. P6 was all northbound trains to Charing Cross as well as Thameslink northbound services.
If only you saw the 6 or maybe even more trains you can have racing out of clapham junction - certainly a spectacle especially when you're on the train
A great video on my current patch (until March when I need to learn about 150s and 185s 🤣) Some answers below: Thankfully nowadays TL run over two seperate lines from SE between south of Waterloo East & through London Bridge - this section of route is set before the rebuild from 2015-18. Having grown up down here it's so good to have more of SE in game. That power station is a waste incinerator! In terms of the liveries, the 465s are in the old Southeastern livery design that matched their brand from 2007-2014 (375609/624/705 went into this livery initally too). After that, the brand was redesigned (the logo had the full stop removed from it) and the livery going forward is all over blue as seen on the 375s and 707s & soon the 376s. 707s have only run is passenger service in Blue on SE with the seat covers replaced to a design that matches the rest of the SE Mainline/Metro fleet. Orpington Bay platforms are served by 2tph CST stoppers & 2tph to VIC via Bromley S & Herne Hill. That 700 departing would've been on a diverted Sevenoaks to Blackfriars service, running via Orpington to Bromley South instead of via Bat & Ball and Swanley. This is also evident because you went into P4 at Sevenoaks as normally the TL terminate in 4 with the down mainlines using 3 however you cannot access the Up mainline from Platform 4, so they switch round when that service is diverted. The 707s/376s and 465s cover pretty much the entirity of the SE metro network, apart from services out of Victoria that are entirely 465. The big issue with SE's fleet is they don't have enough of one type of train so the metro is a real mix. Southeastern also still have the 23 377/5s subleased from GTR which have to operate seperately from the 375s as they're incompatible. The 100mph running continues after Tonbridge all the way to just outside Ashford!
Joe at Orpington that 700 is doing Orpington-Blackfriars and the 465’s go to London Charing X (I believe) and London Victoria (I know). Edit: I believe the 707’s SE have been allocated to London canon st to Hayes services and I THINK a few Orpington or Sevenoaks services maybe not sure
All Hayes services go to Charing Cross now since Dec 22, they don't run in to Cannon St anymore. 707s appear on most metro diagrams out of Charing Cross and Cannon St now, they're not exclusive to a certain route.
Not quite Battersea, but Bermondey! It's the South East London Combined Heat and Power station in South Bermondsey. Basically it's a huge incinerator that converts waste to power. Orpington is the terminus for metro to Victoria (via Bromley South, Beckenham Junction, and Herne Hill), Cannon St (via Grove Park and Lewisham), and early morning and late evening Charing Cross stoppers which start/finish at Sevenoaks during the day. There are also peak hour Thameslink trains to Luton/St Albans via the Catford Loop which start/finish at Orpington on weekdays. The Networkers aren't going anywhere for a while. The 707s are a supplementary mini fleet of only 30 units which will displace a few of the 465/2s but the majority of the Networker fleet will still be the mainstay on SE Metro until a whole fleet replacement is sourced which will be many years away yet. The 707s that are now in SE colours have done away with their former SWT interiors, sporting lovely orange grab rails and the usual blue Southeastern moquette :)
Hi Joe, great video! About the livery - basically the idea is to turn all trains into the dark blue livery - the 375s were painted when they went for their refurbishment up in Derby. With the 465s, I doubt they will need a reapaint within their remaining life time. The 376s desperately need a refurb and just an overall paint, and when that happens it should be into the dark blue. As with the 707s, they only have been in service in the blue vinyl livery. When they were coming from SWR, they were coming as a pair from Waterloo every two weeks, and then taking two weeks to be converted into SE condition. As with the interiors - SE have replaced the seat covers with the southeastern moquette. All the trains got the SE Moquette, apart from originally 009 + 010 got the Thameslink moquette temporarily (due to being the first units done). For the 365s, all bar 3 cars are scrapped, which those 3 cars are a static unit at the East Kent Railway. WIth the 465s, they have no imminent replacement, as the 465s that the 707s are going to replace are only the 465/2s, which are at Ely Paperworth Sidings. The 465/0s, the /1s and the /9s will be staying on.
I’m watching this when I am bunged up with the cold but your videos are great and are distracting me from the fact that I’m ill. Also you should do more stepford county railway videos. ( by the way, it wasn’t Battersea Power station ) Anyway, great video Joe!
The 707s have started popping up on the sevenoaks charing x run now and have the blue and orange interiors which is nice but no toilets which is asking for trouble tbh
hey joe, i know the 376 is a 378 repaint and i know where to get it, but when i follow its "readme" document, it doesnt work because theres a file that wont show up, anyway on resolving this for windows 11?
Unrelated to the video but I bought my first AP Packs and it's F7 and F8 to scroll the destinations but whenever I press F8 it takes me out of my game page and shows me what screens I want to project on my laptop Is there a way of resolving this?
I need to download this. Hastings was my depot when I was a driver with SE. Have done that line more time then I care to remember.
It's interesting that the scenario puts you through P4 at London Bridge, which is one of the Thameslink platforms rather than 6 or 7 which would be the normal ones for services from Charing Cross
On this route it's the old London Bridge station before the big rebuild, which back then P4 was all southbound trains from Charing Cross. Thameslink southbound trains used P5. P6 was all northbound trains to Charing Cross as well as Thameslink northbound services.
@@jacksebsmith Ahh that would be why then, thanks!
@@jacksebsmithis there a way of getting new lbridge on this route?
If only you saw the 6 or maybe even more trains you can have racing out of clapham junction - certainly a spectacle especially when you're on the train
A great video on my current patch (until March when I need to learn about 150s and 185s 🤣) Some answers below:
Thankfully nowadays TL run over two seperate lines from SE between south of Waterloo East & through London Bridge - this section of route is set before the rebuild from 2015-18. Having grown up down here it's so good to have more of SE in game.
That power station is a waste incinerator!
In terms of the liveries, the 465s are in the old Southeastern livery design that matched their brand from 2007-2014 (375609/624/705 went into this livery initally too). After that, the brand was redesigned (the logo had the full stop removed from it) and the livery going forward is all over blue as seen on the 375s and 707s & soon the 376s. 707s have only run is passenger service in Blue on SE with the seat covers replaced to a design that matches the rest of the SE Mainline/Metro fleet.
Orpington Bay platforms are served by 2tph CST stoppers & 2tph to VIC via Bromley S & Herne Hill. That 700 departing would've been on a diverted Sevenoaks to Blackfriars service, running via Orpington to Bromley South instead of via Bat & Ball and Swanley. This is also evident because you went into P4 at Sevenoaks as normally the TL terminate in 4 with the down mainlines using 3 however you cannot access the Up mainline from Platform 4, so they switch round when that service is diverted.
The 707s/376s and 465s cover pretty much the entirity of the SE metro network, apart from services out of Victoria that are entirely 465. The big issue with SE's fleet is they don't have enough of one type of train so the metro is a real mix. Southeastern also still have the 23 377/5s subleased from GTR which have to operate seperately from the 375s as they're incompatible.
The 100mph running continues after Tonbridge all the way to just outside Ashford!
Joe at Orpington that 700 is doing Orpington-Blackfriars and the 465’s go to London Charing X (I believe) and London Victoria (I know).
Edit: I believe the 707’s SE have been allocated to London canon st to Hayes services and I THINK a few Orpington or Sevenoaks services maybe not sure
All Hayes services go to Charing Cross now since Dec 22, they don't run in to Cannon St anymore. 707s appear on most metro diagrams out of Charing Cross and Cannon St now, they're not exclusive to a certain route.
@@jacksebsmith ahhh ok
Not quite Battersea, but Bermondey! It's the South East London Combined Heat and Power station in South Bermondsey. Basically it's a huge incinerator that converts waste to power.
Orpington is the terminus for metro to Victoria (via Bromley South, Beckenham Junction, and Herne Hill), Cannon St (via Grove Park and Lewisham), and early morning and late evening Charing Cross stoppers which start/finish at Sevenoaks during the day. There are also peak hour Thameslink trains to Luton/St Albans via the Catford Loop which start/finish at Orpington on weekdays.
The Networkers aren't going anywhere for a while. The 707s are a supplementary mini fleet of only 30 units which will displace a few of the 465/2s but the majority of the Networker fleet will still be the mainstay on SE Metro until a whole fleet replacement is sourced which will be many years away yet.
The 707s that are now in SE colours have done away with their former SWT interiors, sporting lovely orange grab rails and the usual blue Southeastern moquette :)
See Millwall’s football ground (The Den) there too as he went past it
@@dominicwalker1999 The less we say about that the better! 😂 (Palace Fan here)
Hi Joe, great video!
About the livery - basically the idea is to turn all trains into the dark blue livery - the 375s were painted when they went for their refurbishment up in Derby. With the 465s, I doubt they will need a reapaint within their remaining life time. The 376s desperately need a refurb and just an overall paint, and when that happens it should be into the dark blue.
As with the 707s, they only have been in service in the blue vinyl livery. When they were coming from SWR, they were coming as a pair from Waterloo every two weeks, and then taking two weeks to be converted into SE condition. As with the interiors - SE have replaced the seat covers with the southeastern moquette. All the trains got the SE Moquette, apart from originally 009 + 010 got the Thameslink moquette temporarily (due to being the first units done).
For the 365s, all bar 3 cars are scrapped, which those 3 cars are a static unit at the East Kent Railway. WIth the 465s, they have no imminent replacement, as the 465s that the 707s are going to replace are only the 465/2s, which are at Ely Paperworth Sidings. The 465/0s, the /1s and the /9s will be staying on.
The 465s normally terminate at Tunbridge Wells.
I’m watching this when I am bunged up with the cold but your videos are great and are distracting me from the fact that I’m ill.
Also you should do more stepford county railway videos. ( by the way, it wasn’t Battersea Power station )
Anyway, great video Joe!
One of my local trains from Folkestone goes to Charing Cross.
Southeastern is a weird one, it doesn't seem to have a "hub" like most operators. Charing Cross, Victoria and Cannon Street all very busy stations!
@@JoeDobsongaming London's very different to Manchester or Leeds.
No mate that’s actually millwall football club instead of Battersea power station
The 707s have started popping up on the sevenoaks charing x run now and have the blue and orange interiors which is nice but no toilets which is asking for trouble tbh
Great vid. You gained a subscriber
Hey the 465s run to Victoria via Herne Hill
Waterloo East Station 🚉
hey, whenever i load the map there is no tracks or buildings, do you know why?
hey joe, i know the 376 is a 378 repaint and i know where to get it, but when i follow its "readme" document, it doesnt work because theres a file that wont show up, anyway on resolving this for windows 11?
Unrelated to the video but I bought my first AP Packs and it's F7 and F8 to scroll the destinations but whenever I press F8 it takes me out of my game page and shows me what screens I want to project on my laptop
Is there a way of resolving this?
Is it the AP track enhancement on that route?
Nice video Joe I miss the pacer trains
Joe, you forgot to set you headcode up so you had been going without it done
Charing Cross to London Bridge is not new it's been around since '05
Well I meant new in Train Simulator :P
Trains from Orpington (terminating) goes to Victoria
trains
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What add on do u need to hasting on train sim
They need to bring back the network southeast toothpaste livery.
Brixton please
i have it in my subscritions what do i do now?
Where do we download this scenario? 🤔
It'll be available via Magic Toad's website :) www.magictoadscenarios.co.uk/scenarios
@@JoeDobsongaming brilliant! Thank you for getting back so quick.
Brixton
Joe, why do you make slight nonsense comments 😂
Nonsense comes as standard I'm afraid :D