My Top 5 1970s Heavyweight Fights

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  • @boxingpedia
    @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +7

    What's your top 5!?
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    • @boxingod
      @boxingod 2 місяці тому +1

      Ali vs Frazier 3, Holmes vs Norton, Frazier vs Ali 1, Holmes vs Schavers 2, Quarry vs Schavers

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@boxingod those last two fights are sleepers! Good list.

    • @martindunstan8043
      @martindunstan8043 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@boxingod Quarry vs Shavers is a good call 👍

  • @stevewatkins7144
    @stevewatkins7144 2 місяці тому +13

    Ali - Frazier I, Ali - Frazier III, Ali - Foreman, Holmes - Norton, Foreman-Lyle
    For me, nothing will ever top the first Ali-Frazier fight. Two undefeated champions. The hype surrounding the fight was unbelievable and the fight itself lived up to the hype.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @@stevewatkins7144 darn fine top 5! Hard pressed to beat the Fight of the Century.

    • @shemereali551
      @shemereali551 2 місяці тому +2

      The first Ali trilogy against frazier was a 4 year off from boxing ring rust which makes the first fight not the best of the three the last of the trilogy in Manila hands down from start to finish the fight not only of the Century but of the Millennium point blank period

    • @stevewatkins7144
      @stevewatkins7144 2 місяці тому

      The third fight was a great fight but the first was better. Ali had two tuneup fights with top contenders before he fought Frazier after being off 3.5 years. That is two more fights than Sugar Ray Leonard had before he came out of retirement and beat Marvin Hagler.
      Ali was in great shape for that fight and said so himself. The problem was Frazier was at the top of his game. Frazier would have beaten Ali any other night also. But that fight took a lot out of Frazier and he was never quite as good after that.
      In 1975, neither fighters were as good as they were in 1971. The 71 fight was just as tough as 75 except for the heat, which makes the 71 fight the best of all time.

    • @shemereali551
      @shemereali551 2 місяці тому +1

      @peterolbrisch8970 Ali is put out of Boxing for 4 years including his comeback from Boxing to fight joe frazier that's not faulty dummy sounds to me that u r bias like I said Ali had a 4 year ring rust out of Boxing from 67' to 71' from 71' to 75' that's 4 years of the Greatest Athlete an Boxer of All Times in getting the rust an dust off of him in 74' regaining his Heavyweight Title belt back in Zaire and top it off with the fight of the Millennium in Manila simple as that point blank period

    • @shemereali551
      @shemereali551 2 місяці тому +2

      @stevewatkins7144 U individuals are full of it Ali was out of Boxing not for no damn 3 years and 5 months and if it was that's would be most if not all Athletes careers would be pretty much over and done but like I was saying it wasn't 3 years and 5 months it was 3 years and 8 months not including his Boxing workout training which takes about 2 to 3 months when Ali came back which means that's a total of 4 years an 1 month incredible that's why Muhammad Ali is the Greatest Athlete 🙌 Boxer of All Times period

  • @drankyodrank
    @drankyodrank 2 місяці тому +7

    Good stuff. I’d like to see your top 5 60s, 80s, 90s, 00s, and 10s as well

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +2

      @drankyodrank they're all coming in due time. The 80s and 90s will release on the next two Sundays so stick around

  • @andrew3xuk346
    @andrew3xuk346 2 місяці тому +2

    Well put together !
    Good selection !
    Credit to the strength of the 1970’’s that The Fight of The Century itself - Ali vs Frazier I - couldn’t make it !
    All good !

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@andrew3xuk346 thank you. What are your own personal top 5?

  • @DavidChapman-hu2eq
    @DavidChapman-hu2eq 2 місяці тому +1

    Im a huge frazier fan. But i go for the biggest slugfest foreman v lyle and i was pulling for lyle 2 ali v shavers 3 holmes v shavers 2. 4norton v bobick and frazier v foster two destruction jobs respect

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @@DavidChapman-hu2eq I like your list and your style! Norton-Bobick was a demolition job! I think you'll like this since you love the 70s! ua-cam.com/video/10WIyMo6B94/v-deo.htmlsi=NesGQrq7JWixIuIX

  • @danthaman03
    @danthaman03 2 місяці тому +7

    1 Foreman Lyle
    2 Ali Frazier 3
    3 rumble in the jungle
    4 Holmes Norton
    5 Ali Frazier 1

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@danthaman03 solid 😎

    • @danthaman03
      @danthaman03 2 місяці тому +2

      @@boxingpedia yes great decade. Hard to choose.

  • @martindunstan8043
    @martindunstan8043 2 місяці тому +1

    New sub👍great top 5 and so glad you had honourable mentions as the 70s HW scene was stacked. Cheers,that was superb✌️🥊

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @martindunstan8043 welcome home, what's your top 5? I'd like to read!

    • @martindunstan8043
      @martindunstan8043 2 місяці тому +1

      @boxingpedia 5.Quarry v Shavers
      4.Ali vFrazier 1
      3.Foreman v Frazier 1
      2.Ali v Frazier III
      1. foreman v Ali
      I look at my picks and I want to put others in such as Holmes v Norton Foreman v Lyle and its a shame I can't find room for the criminally underrated Jimmy Young. There is a case for anybodies top5,it's personal, so it can't possibly be wrong. Again, this is a great video and I will be trawling through your playlist this evening, so apologies for any late to the party comments🤣✌️🥊

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @martindunstan8043 you're right on time, glad to have you! Excellent top 5!

  • @Falconcat63
    @Falconcat63 2 місяці тому +1

    Great upload brother. I just subscribed. I agree with you except for two fights. In the top 5, I would have replaced Foreman-Frazier I with Lyle-Shavers. Lyle and Shavers were more closely matched than Foreman and Frazier and they both hurt the hell out of each other. Foreman and Frazier was more of a one sided slaughter in my view. I would also replace Holmes-Shavers II in the Honorable mention section with Jimmy Young-Foreman. That was one hell of an interesting fight. A crafty boxer, Young, beating a much bigger and stronger man and a historically hard puncher in George Foreman. Looking forward to your next upload!

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @Falconcat63 nice to have you, welcome home. I like your top 5! 80s heavyweights is this Sunday.

    • @Falconcat63
      @Falconcat63 2 місяці тому

      My head hurts just watching that Lyle-Shavers fight. Just brutal. Any money those men earned in that fight they were way underpaid. Looking forward to your 80's upload.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @@Falconcat63 the final knockout where Shavers slumps to the canvas is vicious. I thought he was dead the first time I watched it. Thanks for coming out.

    • @Falconcat63
      @Falconcat63 2 місяці тому +1

      @@boxingpedia That was two serious men!

  • @ZBOXINGTALK
    @ZBOXINGTALK 2 місяці тому +5

    Importance in heavyweight history:
    1. Ali/Foreman
    2. Ali/Frazier III
    3. Ali/Frazier I
    4. Foreman/Frazier I
    5. Norton vs Holmes
    Best fights:
    1. Foreman/Lyle
    2. Ali/Frazier III
    3. Ali/Frazier I
    4. Norton vs Holmes
    5. Foreman/Frazier

    • @tloustrats
      @tloustrats 2 місяці тому +2

      We agree on importance and almost on best 🤝. Though the Ali Frazier III had too much context to be put just behind Foreman Lyle imo. This was a dangerous fight. If Foreman Lyle was a championship fight (assuming Foreman beat Ali and has never been knock down), it would def be top 1

    • @ZBOXINGTALK
      @ZBOXINGTALK 2 місяці тому +2

      @@tloustrats Yes. I was basing best fights mostly on action in the fight itself, not the overall significance as that was my top list.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @@ZBOXINGTALK good ass list and good ass criteria

  • @jsslaek
    @jsslaek 2 місяці тому +1

    First of all, let me say I love your work and have now watched 1960 through 2001…as far as your top 5, I can’t argue with them, however, it’s hard to believe Ali Frazier one didn’t make the cut. You picks may be correct given the great fights of that decade, but it’s such a classic, I thought it would be there. Anyway, keep up the good work and thanks for the content!

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@jsslaek it's subjective, that's all. While I respect the significance and impact of the Fight of the Century, I always preferred Manilla. Just personal preference. What are your own top 5? I'd like to read! And thank you for the love, welcome home

    • @keithcampbell6806
      @keithcampbell6806 2 місяці тому

      For fun let me give you my top five . Ali Frazier 1 Holmes Norton 2 Foreman Lyle 3 Ali Frazier3 finally Foreman Young.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@keithcampbell6806 I like your list!

  • @davidstearn-b1h
    @davidstearn-b1h 2 місяці тому +3

    1. Ali - Frazier I - most historically important fight of all time & it lived up to the hype. 2. Ali - Frazier III - the Thrilla was the most brutal fight ever, given the conditions in Manila plus drama at the end with arguments in both corners. 3. Ali - Foreman - The Rumble was the biggest upset on the biggest stage. 4. Holmes - Norton - The most even heavyweight championship fight ever with one of the best rounds at the end. 5. Foreman - Lyle - a human version of Rock'em Sock'em Robot. Round 4 was insane! Honorable Mention - Ali - Norton III - Can't beleive thst this wasn't on anyone's list. Norton was robbed by the Ali Mystique. Best decade of heavyweight fights by far.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @davidstearn-b1h excellent list and excellent reasoning. Definitely the best decade for heavyweights.

  • @thaddeusblake4707
    @thaddeusblake4707 2 місяці тому +1

    I loved the 70s boxing scene. I was just learning how to drink beer in the 70s.
    I totally agree with your list...those are great fights. And significant in how the division history unfolded.
    My own list is just my sentimental favourites; Just the fights that were the most fun to watch because of all the friends I was watching them with. Good times.
    1. Larry Holmes vs. Ken Norton...rockum/sockum robots in the last round
    2. Ron Lyle vs. Earnie Shavers...shootout with bazookas
    3. Joe Frazier vs. Muhammad Ali 1...someone’s “O” had to go
    4. Jimmy Young vs. George Foreman...Young wasn’t just slick as grease, he showed incredible heart
    5. Larry Holmes vs.Earnie Shavers 2... Holmes did a Lazarus after Shavers right decked him in seventh

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @thaddeusblake4707 I got alotta love for those fights you listed. Jimmy Young beating BIG George is an upset that I still don't think gets the respect it should. That altered heavyweight history. Great list and never forget those great times you had with friends.

    • @thaddeusblake4707
      @thaddeusblake4707 2 місяці тому

      @@boxingpedia Young vs Foreman was a big one for me because it was the first time I switched camps in mid fight. I started out cheering for George, but he fought so dirty, consistently smashing Jimmy with open palms and elbows, and Young showed incredible determination in round seven when he was clocked so badly and very early in the round, George had so much time to finish him and he sure tried. That was some serious suspense.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @@thaddeusblake4707 makes George's comeback and character improvement all the better in hindsight. What a great fight.

  • @ClassicBoxingQuarterly
    @ClassicBoxingQuarterly 2 місяці тому +3

    1. The Thrilla in Manila
    2. The Fight of the Century
    3. The Rumble in the Jungle
    4. Muhammad Ali vs Ken Norton 2
    5. Larry Holmes vs Ken Norton

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@ClassicBoxingQuarterly very fine list, can't be argued with.

  • @user-vm2hh9ts8h
    @user-vm2hh9ts8h 2 місяці тому +7

    I am not going to argue with the top five heavyweight fights of the seventies...i would have put foreman and norton in the top five... some people are going to put the first Ali Frazier fight in the top five.... the third Ali and Frazier fight was a brutal one and I know that some people think that the fight was too hard and they didn't like it for that reason....

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@user-vm2hh9ts8h whats your top 5? I'd like to know!

    • @user-vm2hh9ts8h
      @user-vm2hh9ts8h 2 місяці тому +1

      @@boxingpedia pretty much the same as your top five... Ali and Frazier.. the first one and the last one...Frazier and foreman foreman and Norton.. Norton and Holmes ....

    • @glennwilliams7888
      @glennwilliams7888 2 місяці тому

      So what are you saying I don't understand you sound indecisive

    • @user-vm2hh9ts8h
      @user-vm2hh9ts8h 2 місяці тому

      @@glennwilliams7888 ..indecisive about what exactly?....

    • @jasonellis9777
      @jasonellis9777 2 місяці тому

      You have Forman vs Norton as one of the best fights? Seriously?

  • @robertgreenwood5228
    @robertgreenwood5228 2 місяці тому +1

    Norton v quarry.... underrated.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @@robertgreenwood5228 yep! Should've been in my honorable mentions!

  • @ah2552
    @ah2552 2 місяці тому +2

    5. Holmes vs Norton
    4. Foreman vs Lyles
    3. Ali vs Frazier 1
    2. Ali vs Foreman
    1. Ali vs Frazier 3
    6. Frazier vs Foreman 1
    7. Holmes vs Shavers
    8. Ali vs Norton 2
    9. Foreman vs Young
    10. Ali vs Spinks 2

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @ah2552 all excellent fights from the best era of heavyweights ever. Good list.

  • @shpejtimavdyli5199
    @shpejtimavdyli5199 2 місяці тому +1

    My top 5
    5. Foreman vs Lyle
    4. Foreman vs Frazier
    3. Foreman vs Ali
    2. Frazier vs Ali (1)
    1. Ali vs Frazier (3)

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@shpejtimavdyli5199 excellent list, I like it.

  • @mongoslade277
    @mongoslade277 2 місяці тому +2

    1) Ali/Frazier III
    2) Foreman/Lyle
    3) Ali/Foreman
    4) Holmes/ Norton (I thought Norton won)
    5) Frazier/Ali I (The Fight)

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +2

      @@mongoslade277 beautiful top 5

    • @mongoslade277
      @mongoslade277 2 місяці тому +1

      @@boxingpedia So many great fights in the 70s. Your honorable mentions would top other decades

  • @davidmccormick84
    @davidmccormick84 2 місяці тому +1

    Great list. Whenever I hear Hagler Hearns I ask if they ever seen Foreman Lyle.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@davidmccormick84 same. I prefer Foreman/Lyle over Hagler/Hearns. What's your top 5?

  • @anthonydileonardo8156
    @anthonydileonardo8156 2 місяці тому +1

    the best fights to never happen: Foreman vs. Shavers and Frazier vs. Lyle....omg

  • @mikem591
    @mikem591 2 місяці тому +1

    1. Ali v Frazier 1. I have watched this fight a number of times, and this fight was epically competitive and was dramatic. Also the historical significance of the fight was huge. Was actually the fight of the century.
    2. The Rumble in the Jungle.
    3. The Thrilla in Manila
    4. Foreman v Frazier 1
    5. Holmes v Norton
    Honorable mention: Lyle v Foreman, based on pure action. The other fights eclipsed this fight in historical significance, because it wasn’t for a title, but was one of greatest fights, in terms of pure action. Was actually greater in action and drama, then Hearns v Hagler, because it was longer and had a lot dramatic turn of events where both fighters looked like they were gone, but somehow came back. This fight it sort of cult classic. Didn’t even know about this fight accept for a few years ago.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @mmcneil777 solid list of all time classics. Foreman/Lyle could make anyone a boxing fan. I was late learning about it too. I can rewatch that fight anytime.

    • @keithcampbell6806
      @keithcampbell6806 2 місяці тому

      From a purely boxing stand point Foreman Lyle was a better fight than Ali Foreman. Most fans would agree.

    • @mikem591
      @mikem591 2 місяці тому +1

      @@boxingpedia It was fight that I saw on Foreman’s record, but had no idea what an incredible fight it was. The fight wasn’t brought up much by boxing historians, that I knew about. It was thanks to YT that I finally saw Lyle-Foreman and I was shocked how amazing it was. The fight added to both respective fighters legend.

  • @zachboatman7995
    @zachboatman7995 2 місяці тому +1

    1. thrilla in manilla
    2. holmes vs norton
    3. fight of the century
    4. rumble in the jungle
    5. foreman vs lyle

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@zachboatman7995 great list

  • @robertgreenwood5228
    @robertgreenwood5228 2 місяці тому +1

    Lyle v shavers ....unreal !!

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@robertgreenwood5228 amazing fight!

  • @NelsonMontana1234
    @NelsonMontana1234 2 місяці тому +2

    That's my Top 5 as well.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @NelsonMontana1234 I don't think the 70s will ever be matched for heavyweights. Thanks for coming Nelson.

  • @shadicalplayz8932
    @shadicalplayz8932 2 місяці тому +1

    8:00 what’s the music?

  • @theGR8742
    @theGR8742 2 місяці тому +1

    5) FOREMAN vs LYLE 4) [TIE] FOREMAN vs FRAZIER I/NORTON 3) RUMBLE IN THE JUNGLE 2) FIGHT OF THE CENTURY 1) THRILLA IN MANILA

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @theGR8742 great list, all dynamite matchups!

  • @clintkirby3319
    @clintkirby3319 2 місяці тому +2

    Thrilla in Manila fight of the century Frazier vs foreman one rumble in the jungle ken Norton vs Larry Holmes top five of mine.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@clintkirby3319 damn fine top 5 you got!

  • @Free_J_ghasta
    @Free_J_ghasta 2 місяці тому +1

    I'll save my 5 for the 80's/90's

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +2

      @Free_J_ghasta coming next week and the week after. I look forward to reading your list

  • @staraptorflock3661
    @staraptorflock3661 2 місяці тому +1

    In my opinion my top 10 is
    1.Foreman vs Ali
    2. Fraizer vs Ali 1
    3. Foreman vs Lyle
    4. Fraizer vs Foreman 1
    5. Ali vs Fraizer 3
    6. Foreman vs Norton
    7. Holmes vs Shavers 2
    8. Ali vs Spinks 2
    9. Shavers vs Roy Tiger Willams
    10. Norton vs Quarry

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @@staraptorflock3661 I like your list!

    • @keithcampbell6806
      @keithcampbell6806 2 місяці тому

      What about Holmes Norton my friend.

    • @staraptorflock3661
      @staraptorflock3661 2 місяці тому

      @@boxingpedia I binged watched a bunch of 70s fight recently so it's fresh in my mind

    • @staraptorflock3661
      @staraptorflock3661 2 місяці тому

      @@keithcampbell6806 It's it is a good fight the other ones had such good stand out moments like Shaver's delayed knockout of Roy Tiger Williams

  • @butchyray6553
    @butchyray6553 2 місяці тому +1

    I actually agree 👍 keep up the good work

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @butchyray6553 good to see you, welcome

  • @uncletony6210
    @uncletony6210 2 місяці тому +1

    Rumble Jungle has to be one. Not even close.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@uncletony6210 what's your top 5, unc? I'm interested.

    • @uncletony6210
      @uncletony6210 2 місяці тому

      @@boxingpedia I reeled them off in my head before watching to see if we matched. Mine were 1 Rumble, 2 Thrilla, 3 Ali-Frazier I, 4 Foreman-Lyle, 5 Ali-Norton I. *Two things: 1) I considered the magnitude of the event in addition to the action; 2) I was born in 69 so my opinions are based on what I've learned and observed after-the-fact as opposed to real time. And while I did watch many of Ali's fights in the 70s, my area of expertise is more late 80s to mid 90s.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @uncletony6210 I like your list, especially the love for the first Ali-Norton. No one saw that coming and Norton stamped himself as a contender for good. Good talking with you, Unc. 80s top 5 comes out this coming Sunday.

    • @uncletony6210
      @uncletony6210 2 місяці тому

      @@boxingpedia Heavy?

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@uncletony6210 yessir.

  • @2KDUDE22
    @2KDUDE22 2 місяці тому +1

    This is tough because what do you leave out. But Ali v Frazier 1 has to be in there because of the historical influence. I guess I would take out the foreman Frazier as although historical for championship legacy it was a total beat down

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@2KDUDE22 what's your full top 5? I'd like to know!

    • @2KDUDE22
      @2KDUDE22 2 місяці тому

      @@boxingpedia I would go with your list, but replace Frazier v Foreman with the first Ali v Frazier, although it does seem cheesy to put 2 Ali v Frazier fights in there, those are legit the best fights.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @2KDUDE22 nothing cheesy about it, it's your list. I like it. 70s is my favorite heavyweight era.

  • @tloustrats
    @tloustrats 2 місяці тому +1

    Tbh, Foreman Ali fight itself was kind of disapointing (when comparing to wars of your first 4 best fights ). Nonetheless, it was maybe one of the most important fight in boxing history (and arguably the most important of the 70's) : that's why we consider Ali to be the greatest. Had Foreman won, he would surely be at Ali's place. If Ali lost, he was basically retiring.
    If I had to rank the best fights in terms of actions in a top 5 :
    1. Ali Frazier III
    2. Foreman Lyle
    3. Ali Frazier I
    4. Foreman Frazier I
    5. Holmes Norton
    In terms of importance/context :
    1. Ali Foreman
    2. Ali Frazier III
    3. Ali Frazier I
    4. Foreman Frazier I
    5. Holmes Norton

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @tloustrats I like how you had the different lists based off criteria. I considered doing that myself. I think the biggest thing for me is which ones I'd want to watch again and never get tired of watching.

    • @keithcampbell6806
      @keithcampbell6806 2 місяці тому

      Good afternoon you are a b fellow boxing junkie.😮

  • @kingtyomama6564
    @kingtyomama6564 2 місяці тому

    Ali-Frazier 1, Norton-Holmes, Foreman-Lyle, Ali-Foreman, and Frazier-Ali3. In that order. All these fights were close except I felt Ali dominated Foreman but I put it in there for its significance.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @kingtyomama6564 that's a fine list you got there!

  • @angusbeyer
    @angusbeyer 2 місяці тому

    Lyle vs Foreman , Ali vs Frazier 1 , Ali vs Foreman , Frazier vs Foreman 1 , Holmes vs Norton

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @angusbeyer that's a fine list you got there.

  • @carlmurray1781
    @carlmurray1781 2 місяці тому

    1 Frazier vs Ali I
    2 Ali vs Frazier III
    3 Holmes vs Norton
    4 Foreman vs Lyle
    5 Lyle vs Shavers

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @carlmurray1781 very entertaining top 5, love it.

  • @jerichobeach2967
    @jerichobeach2967 2 місяці тому +1

    Foreman vs lyle def was a fight, ali vs frazier, ali vs foreman was a fight but foreman vs norton or frazier werent fights just beatdowns. Definately shocking but cant say it was a great fight per se

  • @ajcaiati
    @ajcaiati 2 місяці тому

    The top 5 was definitely good. There was only two fights that could be chosen were up sets. Ali Frazier 1, or Ali Foreman. Either one of those fights could have been chosen for the number 1 fight.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@ajcaiati what's your top 5? I'm interested.

    • @ajcaiati
      @ajcaiati 2 місяці тому

      Let’s face it, full contact sports is very competitive. Since the beginning of that sport only one man made it to 49 and 0 victories. Rocky Marciano. Now Ali was the greatest and even the greatest fighters have bad days. The Ali Frazier 1 should have been #2, and the Ali Foreman #1. Ali was able to out smart everyone he stepped into the ring with, except the fighters he lost to.

  • @alfovebraseth
    @alfovebraseth 2 місяці тому

    1 Ali Frazier 3
    2 Ali Frazier 1
    3 Norton Holmes
    4 Ali Foreman
    5 Foreman Lyle

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@alfovebraseth solid list, thanks for sharing.

  • @shadicalplayz8932
    @shadicalplayz8932 2 місяці тому +1

    5:19

  • @drbonesshow1
    @drbonesshow1 2 місяці тому

    Where is Ali versus Frazier I?

  • @jayedwards4787
    @jayedwards4787 2 місяці тому

    Couldn’t disagree more , as I was a big fan in the 70s. It’s Ali-Frazier 1… nothing else comes close…the Ali-Norton and Holmes-Norton fights were very good also . Ali -Foreman wasn't a great fight but was great to watch Ali show what a limited fighter Foreman was . Foreman quit boxing in early 77 after light punching defensive specialist Jimmy Young beat him . Holmes -Weaver was a great fight . Holmes -Shavers also

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @jayedwards4787 that's the beauty of subjectivity, isn't it? What's your top 5?

    • @jayedwards4787
      @jayedwards4787 2 місяці тому

      @@boxingpedia 1. Ali-Frazier 1….2.Holmes-Norton… 3 Ali--Norton 2…4.Ali-Foreman …5 Holmes -Weaver .Jimmy Young was the most interesting fighter of the 70s- he beat Lyle twice, beat Foreman , drew with Shavers , easily beat Norton but was robbed …but his fights weren’t exactly exciting to watch .

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @jayedwards4787 good top 5. I've noticed a pattern with Jimmy Young getting love all these years later and the correlation in some ppl's viewing of the decade or fav fights. There are some ppl that would be as surprised with you not having Manila on your list. Good chat.

    • @jayedwards4787
      @jayedwards4787 2 місяці тому

      @@boxingpedia I was a Frazier fan - never thought the Thrilla was a good fight, Joe having dropped his bobbing and weaving ( age) and walking straight in - no way you do that against Ali .Had Ali winning pretty handily before Round 14. Lot of us liked Jimmy Young then because he was such a strange fighter, an anti-hero type. Foreman was strongly disliked then because he adopted the Liston bully persona . Frazier -Ali was the greatest HW fight ever because a counter-punching pressure fighter with endless stamina vs a granite-chinned boxer who didn’t know how to block punches , made for a super fight .

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @jayedwards4787 what an era, the greatest ever for the division. If you'd like a stroll down memory lane, I made a timeline I think you'll enjoy if you haven't seen this already: ua-cam.com/video/10WIyMo6B94/v-deo.htmlsi=Ms1QDobkbtqITmNU

  • @noskoolikeoldskool
    @noskoolikeoldskool 2 місяці тому

    7:12 why didn't he train properly? Especially when fighting his main rival?

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @noskoolikeoldskool Ali thought Joe was washed and that he would win easily. That and the drama in his personal life. Big mistake...

    • @noskoolikeoldskool
      @noskoolikeoldskool 2 місяці тому

      @@boxingpedia obvious

  • @waynemarchel9667
    @waynemarchel9667 2 місяці тому

    Foreman is the greatest heavyweight of all time full stop

    • @keithsymons5708
      @keithsymons5708 2 місяці тому

      How can he be when Ali beat him ?

    • @waynemarchel9667
      @waynemarchel9667 2 місяці тому

      @@keithsymons5708 what's that got to do with the price of fish,why didn't ali fight him again🤔 besides you can't say ali is better,as he was beaten by Norton two of the three fights,Berwick beat him,Frazier beat him,Spinks beat him,Holmes beat him,there will never be a better heavyweight then Foreman!!

  • @Gordon-hx8cp
    @Gordon-hx8cp 2 місяці тому

    Foreman V Frazier was not a great fight it was a one sided massacre

  • @glennwilliams7888
    @glennwilliams7888 2 місяці тому

    One correction with the George Foreman Muhammad Ali fight George was not punishing Muhammad Ali believe it or not it was going Muhammad Ali's way buy secondary way the whole fight , George Foreman was being duked seduced and dragged out into the ocean the whole time the ocean 🌊 come and guess what he couldn't swim and he had weights on haha I'll see you all a little later

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @@glennwilliams7888 Ali drowned him out in the ocean, haha!

  • @KevinSmith-ki7yl
    @KevinSmith-ki7yl 2 місяці тому

    You can’t put Frazier vs Foreman as a great fight, Foreman battered Frazier.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @@KevinSmith-ki7yl anyone can put any fight they want on their own specific top 5. It's called subjectivity. What are your top 5?

    • @KevinSmith-ki7yl
      @KevinSmith-ki7yl 2 місяці тому

      @@boxingpediaI agree with most of your choices but i would choose at least one of the Ali vs Norton fights in there especially the first fight.

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @@KevinSmith-ki7yl I love the 70s heavyweight division. What a golden era!

  • @josephphoenix1376
    @josephphoenix1376 2 місяці тому

    I don't Agree!

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому

      @@josephphoenix1376 what's your top 5?

  • @karencarman8336
    @karencarman8336 2 місяці тому

    Stupid! No way was Frazier 3 better than 1. The Ali Forman fight was not a top 100 fight!

    • @boxingpedia
      @boxingpedia  2 місяці тому +1

      @@karencarman8336 you need to mature and learn what subjectivity means. Shame on you for being so rude!

    • @karencarman8336
      @karencarman8336 2 місяці тому

      @@boxingpedia maybe you are right about the rude! I apologize! But the first 3 fights I saw Ali in live with Jimmy Young, Earnie Shavers and Ken Norton 3 sorry but he lost all 3 of them. I was in my 20s before I realized he actually did have game when he was younger. It infuriates me to hear all the crap on him. Sorry for the rudeness!

    • @rustynail766
      @rustynail766 2 місяці тому +1

      Ali beat Liston, Foreman and Frazier twice! I like rubbing it in.

    • @karencarman8336
      @karencarman8336 2 місяці тому

      @@rustynail766 that is your opinion and that is the record. My opinion is Frazier won the first two and Norton won all three of their fights! That is why Ali great talk makes me so rude!

    • @rustynail766
      @rustynail766 2 місяці тому +1

      @karencarman8336 no, it's because your rude and crude.

  • @85passthru
    @85passthru Місяць тому

    ALI/FOREMAN IS OVERRATED...ALI SIMPLY AFRAID TO ENGAGE EARLY...FOREMAN WORE HIMSELF OUT THROWING PONDEROUS PUNCHES....SIMPLE AS THAT.