The Russian Liberation Army (ROA) - Hitler's Russian Army
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2021
- This video is about Russian collaboration in World War II: the Russian Liberation Army (ROA) - Hitler's Russian Army. During Operation Barbarossa the Germans captured millions of Soviet soldiers. Around one million of these Red Army POWs would join the German side in units such as the Russian Liberation Army (ROA) under collaborating general Andrey Vlasov. He would later establish the Russian People's Liberation Committee (KONR). There were other units such as the SS “RONA” (Russian National Liberation Army) led by Bronislav Kaminsky. Most of these Soviet collaborators were Red Army prisoners of war, but also White émigrés. In this episode an overview of Russian collaborators during the Second World War.
History Hustle presents: The Russian Liberation Army (ROA) - Hitler's Russian Army.
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- Russia's War (Richard Overy).
- Hitler's Russian & Cossack Allies 1941-45 [Men-at-arms] (Nigel Thomas).
- Vlasov and the Russian Liberation Movement: Soviet Reality and Emigré Theories (Catherine Andreyev).
- forum.axishistory.com/viewtop... (1-9-2021).
- www.capitalcentury.com/1945.html (1-9-2021).
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I used to have friend who served in the ROA. When he was transferred to northern Italy to fight the British, he defected to them and as requested into the British army as a non-combatant in uniform. He claimed that because of this, he was not repatriated.
Interesting to read, thanks for sharing! What else did he tell you about his experiences? What was the mood in the ROA? Did he tell you anything about this? Love to know. Thanks!
He told me that he had served as a sergeant commander of a tank and was captured early in the Great Patriotic War. He joined the ROA in order to eat. Later he was transferred to Northern Italy, we he defected to the British. He was remustered into the British army, which protected him from Operation Keelhaul. That's all I can tell you.
@@davidtapp3950 I wonder if he knew due to how the Soviets operated that going to the British as a non combatant would save his life in the long run. As you mentioned Operation Keelhaul which was a crime few know about.
@@jayjayson9613 I read the Tolstoy book decades ago. It achieved what he wanted because he named the guilty and they died. Despite all of his allegations being true, he lost the court case and spent the rest of his days appealing the decisions against him, which kept the crimes before the yes of the discerning.
you're kidding right? are you like 100 years old???
My father watched Vlasov's execution as a 7 year old. Thank you for another short and down to the point summary.
As a 7 year old? Must have made an impression. What did he tell you about his experience? Thanks for your reply, Sergey!
Please tell us more.
@@HistoryHustle My father told me that as children they spent a lot of time outside without adult supervision. Public executions were a form of entertainment. And one more thing... Growing up during and after WW2 my father's dream was to eat enough white bread. Please keep doing what you do. If we forget history it's bound to repeat itself.
Vlasov did nothing wrong.
Vlasov and others were executed inside a prison in Moscow in 1946 - it was not public and may even have been carried out late at night.
If I'm not mistaken, you've already covered ROA topic in Russian Collaboration Formations video. Nonetheless, it's always great to see and learn something new. Thank you
Thanks! You're right. I explain it in the video.
@@HistoryHustle watching it right now
@@HistoryHustle it's interesting that while ROA was a mere "paper army", some of the units that were included in it were actually a legitimate threat even for The Red Army (Russian Protective Corps, White Cross detachment, Von Renteln 360th Kosaken Regiment etc.)
Thanks for your reply!
@@HistoryHustle thank you for your work
Very interesting feature as always Stefan! Also great to see your History Hustle channel growing well....Like an oak tree!
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This and short lived states are best series. I hope you start adding timestamps in future videos as your presentation is perfect now
Thanks for your reply once again! I'll shall take a look into the time stamp option.
Great video, very interesting to watch like all of the content you do.
Thanks. Nice to read 👍
This is a very interesting video. Good job researching and presenting a lesser-known subject.
Great, thanks Jonathan!
Excellent research and inspiring knowledge Stephon ❤️ Thank you for sharing ❤️ 👍
Many thanks as always!! 👍
Great video , as always covering in detail events not commonly talked about
Many thanks again, Jason!
@@HistoryHustle have you made any videos about the contribution to the push west by Ukraine supporting the Russians, it seems to me the Russians were maybe a bit like the Romans throwing the locals in first before themselves or with themselves as shock units was this the case as I heard somewhere as the Russians moved west that gained them half a million men a month they draw into their ranks to push back the Germans
Its hard to believe that Vlasov 'realized' how evil Stalin was only in 1942. He lived through purges of the officer corps in 1937/38. He must have seen many of his friends- fellow officers- being executed being accused of absurd crimes. He must have known about millions who died due to Stalin's famine few years earlier.
Yet he served Stalin all the time till he was captured. Hard to believe he only figured it out in 1942.
More likely Vlasov was one of the opportunists Stalin's regime produced. He would serve anybody who is in the power
He basically just refused to put up with the whole "you are a traitor" if you become a POW of the Germans. He felt it was bullshit and unfair, I gotta find the quote... he basically just justifies it by saying they had no illusions about what would happen if they returned home to the USSR as returning POW's.
Or Vlasov is proof that indeed like in many other parts of Europe the top tier parts of Red Army officer corps had lots of Nazi sympathisers. Most were purged before the war. Had the purges not occurred the USSR might probably have gone the way of France, Belgium and other Western European countries who did have a good number of Hitler admirers in sensitive positions. It could be argued that Britain too was saved precisely because it had its own purge on a smaller scale, beginning with abdication of King Edward
@@edmundlubega9647 Where did you get your sources ? Stalin's memoir ? Lmao
@@me67galaxylife it's easily accessible knowledge in the public domain.
Fedor Trukhin was truly heart and soul of ROA movement unlike Vlasov who was just a propagandistic figure for the most part
Fantastische video weer! Goed uitgelegd en ik ben weer wat kennis rijker. Merci!
Dank 👌👌
Weer een heel interessante video man👍
Super. Bedankt!
it's kinda weird how multicultural the wehrmacht / ss etc etc were lol
Indeed.
It's not weird when you understand history for what it really is, beyond a strictly "heroes vs villains" narrative.
Yes and no. Germans were really hampered in their multicultural ideology by their racial p session (I of course recognize parallels with the modern woke movement). I do not have exact numbers handy, but for the SS the main source of manpower were Scandinavian countries for a simple reason they were considered racially almost on the level of Germans. On the other hand, the largest source of friendly manpower, initially friendly Ukrainians were ignored due to racist ideology and due to brutal and dehumanizes policies by occupying Germans ended up losing much enthusiasm to align with their masters. Similarly, Russian “volunteers” were mainly used as hivis on the front and as mentioned in the video ROA was never given status of full fledged fighting force. Germans couldn’t force themselves to be aligned with subhumans.
@@pawelpap9 I do not know how valid your statement is, inferiority wasn't correlated with contempt. You're forgetting that the German Reich had its own slavs from the beginning, long before Hitler did any conquests. Sorbs in Lusace, Silesians in Upper-Silesia, Cachous in West Prussia and Masurians in East Prussia all were german people speaking slavic dialects very close to Polish language, and I don't think they were targeted by the genocidal policies. Even many people speaking only German had Slavic roots or family names, especially in the east. Just as the Poles wanted to Degermanize the Germans, the Germans wanted to Germanize those whom they felt could be Germanized.
Hitler describes it pretty well himself when you mention the race.
“Pride in one’s own race - and that does not imply contempt for other races - is also a normal and healthy sentiment. I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own. They have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilization to which we belong. Indeed, I believe the more steadfast the Chinese and the Japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier I shall find it to get on with them.”
Hitler as well mentions in one of his speeches the Ukrainians, the French, Latvians, and all the other European peoples that helped them in their fight. There were estimated 200,000 Ukrainians I believe I read last, in the SS. And estimates of 1-2 million in the ROA. Also biographies from German officers fighting with ROA on the Eastern Front, speaking nothing but good about them. In terms of a race, perhaps they found them inferior to their own, as many did. But that did not neglect them fighting for the same cause. And we really do not know what would have happened if they won, and we will never know.
Andrei Vlasov is an intriguing character, and I’m delighted that you put so much work into describing his ‘ Russian Liberation Army ‘. He was by no means a minor figure or an obscurity throughout his Soviet career. He was one of only a handful of officers who was named and photographed for front page publications, having put in an esteemed effort for the defence of Moscow.
He was one of winner in battle of Moscow
In our country we describe him as a hero and Liberators, since they saved over milion lives (15% of the whole population) here. While we build up statues of ROA, we take the Soviet ones down. The problem with ROA was, that most of the soldiers were criminals, so they didnt share the same vision of Democratic Russia like Vlasov did.
Indeed, an intriguing character!
@@articueilacoryphaeusdux5941 And what country that might be? I am also most curious where did you get the idea that most (!) ROA soldiers were criminals from.
@@pawelpap9 Oh its called Czech Republic and most ROA soldiers indeed were criminals that germans desperately recruited from for example Ukraine (rapists, Ukrainian Nationalists, anti-soviet partisans... Etc) other ones were ex-communists that were captured and valued their lives more than ideology.
Amazing story , thanks Sir
Thanks!
@@HistoryHustle My grandfather was a white Russian , during the student revolution disturbances 1912/13 ? not sure of dates exactly but he was 16/17 years of age at the time he was the only one to get out alive rest of his family was put up against wall & shot because they were land owners & owned a brewery apparently. My sister has gone back to Russia to try & find out anything but she failed she just hit a brick wall of silence to be fair she was told the records building/ offices were destroyed by the Nazies german army in second world war between 1941 - 43 everything was destroyed burnt to ashes so I suppose my family will never know about possible relatives/ descendants that might have survived ww2 etc it would be nice to think there were maybe but we’ll never know now.
love the channel bro keep up the good work
Many thanks!
Great video as always, BZ
Imagine the poor ROA that were sent to the Channel island of Jersey, seeing and living the same as the locals in a non-combat zone, normal western life as if there were no war, And then being repatriated to Mother Russia.
Yes, imagine... Thanks for watching!
the allies captured two soldiers in German uniform in Normandy. nobody spoke their language. shipped back to Britain as pow's . An officer with a strong sense of "who are they?" had them listen to language tapes from the Briish Museum. They were Tibetans yak herders, who wandered into soviet territory, got pressed into the Soviet army,were captured by the Germans and sent to Normandy, to be captured by the Allies.
"Бедная РОА" грабила поселения и потом под конец Второй Мировой переобулась
Interesting fact about my family tree. Nobody in my family has served in the military since the year 1700. Could possibly be farther back then that. That was as far back as we could find. That means for atleast 324 years possibly longer then that nobody has seen military service in any capacity in my family. Really enjoying the WW2 collaborators playlists. I have nearly watched them all.
Great. Thanks for your reply!
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Sees Russian video, abandons work, this is more important today (apologies to my boss)
Great! Please don't get fired!
@@HistoryHustle all good (working from home) What a fascinating video, thoroughly enjoyed it⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thanks for your reply!
Thank you so much!
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strange name for the video, Hitler and his entourage have always been against Vlasov and other Russian collaborators, entrusting them with occupation of Yugoslavia or defense of the Atlantic Wall
True, it was for clickbait reasons I admit.
@@HistoryHustle Actually, fun fact. Himmler and other high ranking NSDAP officers were actually FOR creating the POA. It was the conservative WEHRMACHT officers who were against this, having a high distrust of using enemy soldiers
Fabulous history program. RS. Canada
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Ive never been a admirer of Patton but that info makes me warm to him more
He wasn't all bad. Yet, his quotes are used by revisionists often.
@@HistoryHustle I think he was one of those characters who are hard to understand as the legend is bigger than the man. He had no love for the Soviets and was a Maverick but got the job done when it was needed. Im not sure where his distrust of the Russians came from.
TIK did a video on the repatriation of the POWs and displaced persons.
He did. It's actually a series which is still ongoing. Very well made! Go to TIK if you wanna know more on Keelhaul.
@@HistoryHustle Yes, I have been watching him since 2018 or so.
@History Hustle: you made a refrence that elements of the Russian Liberation Army fought against the US 7th Army in the Nuremberg area.
There is a German military cemetery in Munich with several hundred Russian graves.
Could there be a connection there?
Nice video! Misschien is het interessant in potentiele toekomstige video's over de ROA het ook te hebben over Milety Zykov (= Милетий Зыков). Deze persoon heeft een enorm grote rol gespeeld in de ROA, ongeacht het feit dat hij een volgeling van de ideeen van Nikolaj Boecharin was. In de ROA was zelfs een strijd ontstaan tussen 2 groeperingen: aan de ene kant de groep die Milety Zykov omsingelde (deze groep was procommunistisch ingesteld maar was tegen Stalin), aan de andere kant een groep van nationaal-russische denkende mensen (tot deze groep behoorde bijvoorbeeld Николай Давиденков, die op de voorfoto van deze video is afgebeeld). Volgens de russische historicus Лепехин deed Zykov ook het denkwerk voor Wlassow aangezien Wlassows' intellect niet erg hoog was. Een bekende russische collaborateur Анатолий Макриди, die Wlassow persoonlijk kende, schreef ook in een brief van 1976 dat Wlassow niet erg slim overkwam. Hier is een link naar de russische brieven op liverjournal : labas.livejournal.com/1186576.html
Interessant om te lezen! Dank voor je bericht 👍
@@HistoryHustle Geen probleem:) U bedankt voor de video!
@@HistoryHustle Ik wou u nog een vraag stellen. In de video zei u dat u de kleinzoon van Vladimir Pozdnyakov kent (omdat hij de video had besteld). Kunt u misschien aan hem vragen of hij toevallig niks weet over de Russische Nationale und Soziale Bewegung (ook wel bekend als de RNSD)? Op het moment probeer ik zoveel mogelijk informatie te verzamelen over de geschiedenis van deze beweging. Ik weet dat de ROA van september 1944 tot en met november 1944 probeerde te onderhandelen met verschillende russische en oekrainsche anticommunistische organisaties, waaronder ook met de RNSD. Als mijn informatie klopt zouden de onderhandelingen hebben plaatsgevonden tussen Zhilenkov (ROA) en Aleksandr Wladimirowitsch Meller-Zakomelsky (RNSD). Daarnaast weet ik dat de RNSD heeft geholpen vrijwilligers te registreren voor het ROA. Misschien heeft de kleinzoon van Pozdnyakov hier iets over gehoord van zijn opa?
You should do a video about the hiwis, theyre pretty interesting.
I cover them here:
ua-cam.com/video/cKpj786Sorc/v-deo.html&pp=ygUZcnVzc2lhbiBjb2xsYWJvcmF0aW9uIHd3Mg%3D%3D
Interesting fact:
They were also Romanian Troops that fought for Germany in World War 2.
Yes, the Romanian Army did. Eventually Romania switched sides. Here is my video about Romania in WW2:
ua-cam.com/video/nMryKjtF9g0/v-deo.html
Yes, but in 1944-1945 almost 12.000 romanian capturated troops were incorporated in the Wermacht, there was even an unrecognized romanian gouverment in Germany.
Interesting! Didn't know this.
That was honestly a really interesting video on a topic I never heard about before 💯☯️
Nice to hear, thank you!
Great History Teacher!
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"During and after World War II freed POWs went to special "filtration camps" run by the NKVD. Of these, by 1944, more than 90% were cleared, and about 8% were arrested or condemned to serve in penal battalions. In 1944, they were sent directly to reserve military formations to be cleared by the NKVD. Further, in 1945, about 100 filtration camps were set for repatriated Ostarbeiter, POWs, and other displaced persons, which processed more than 4,000,000 people. By 1946, 80% civilians and 20% of POWs were freed, 5% of civilians, and 43% of POWs were re-drafted, 10% of civilians and 22% of POWs were sent to labor battalions, and 2% of civilians and 15% of the POWs (226,127 out of 1,539,475 total) were transferred to the NKVD, i.e. the Gulag." - literally a quick google search. In other words - a very little percentage of Soviet POWs were actually executed, but good vid nonetheless.
Soviet claims and figures are so reliable. 🤮
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Those are from internal documents not the public version.
Lemme know your source on this.
@History Hustle I am writing this for the third time, hopefully youtube will finally manage to work :D, so the quote is copied from wikipedia (sounds dumb, but bear with me) for simplicity's sake, but I checked the source listed - земское в.н. к вопросу о репатриации советских граждан. 1944-1951 годы // история ссср. 1990. № 4 - Unfortunately I only know a little Russian, so I had to use the automatic translator, but the info seems to check out both in English and in Czech (my native language)
Okay, thanks for sharing.
Very interesting! I recently saw a docudrama titled the last Czars. Can’t blame the whites .
Thanks, James.
Glory to general Vlasov and his men! True patriots
Not sure how many people agree.
@@HistoryHustle I don't really care to be honest. The majority is always wrong
So if the majority thinks murder and theft is bad you agree murder and theft is good.
Do you consider yourself an anti-communist?@@HistoryHustle
@@vuk.505srb Better the Soviets than the Nazis.
Good video! However, you should not place in the same category Soviet citizens who were repatriated because they wanted to be with their families and traitors who were deported to face punishment.
I understand, thanks for your reply.
I was under the impression that Dutch SS men captured Vlasov, but I can't find a reliable source for this.
Lemme know if you have a source on this. Haven't read it myself, but if you have something I love to know.
My great great grandfather was a Cossack who served along ROA battalion. He was transferred to the 4th Kuban Cossack Regiment when he joined axis sides and then served with an ROA unit. My grandpa and my dad told me many stories and the formations of both Cossacks units and Russian units.
Very interesting, thank you for sharing this. What did your grandfather and father told you about their experiences? Love to know!
@@HistoryHustle they told me that the ROA was very propagandist and a lot of Vlasovs speech and propaganda was always referring to whites and referring to the old white provisional government and sometimes even the tsar too. A lot of soldiers were tricked into joining because they thought that it was “liberation army” but ROA Was actually supposed to be an SS unit because lots of soldiers transferred from RONA. Vlasov called it liberation so that Russians didn’t think that they were helping hitler and his cause but for a separate cause. The army was not equipped with distinct uniforms around 1943 - 1945
Before that they wore German Wehrmacht uniforms.
Ranks were very interesting and were similar to the old imperial Russian army ranks with some changes.
My great grand father died in lienz and was shot but his family survive and fled to Kazakhstan with fake passports. This only on my dads side.
@@KozakDio Do you have more information to tell about ROA?
I would be very interested in knowing the identities of the people in the photo at 2:27.
I believe Baron Wrangel is in front row w the epaulettes. this could a story in itself.
I will donate in future and would like to see an episode of Soviet penetration of White Russian emigrants in France. The TRUST story is fascinating. General Miller, Nikolai Skobline would make great stories
Hey History Hustle. Maybe you will make a video about Hollycrossmountain Brigade (Brygada Świętokrzyska)? This is great story. This Brigade was part on NSZ (Narodowe Siły Zbrojne). This group of partisans have order go to the West, and meet with Americans forces. In Czech the liberated concentration camp for women. Antoni Szacki nickname Bohun was lider of this Brigade. If you will decide to do a video I can help if you want.
Hi Mateusz,
Thanks for your reply, perhaps I'll dive into it, but I still have to explore the whole Polish resistance chapter.
@@HistoryHustle There is a lot of information and knowledge related to Polish underground organizations. For someone who does not speak Polish, it is more difficult to delve into this topic. I am waiting for material related to this topic.
Thank you
You're welcome, Philip!
Repatriation... What a terrifying word for those men...
Thanks! Dank je! Obrigado! 🇧🇷
Indeed. Thanks for your message 👍
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Ft. Dix was my gateway to the USMC, and I still live nearby. Never knew it had such a grim chapter.
Thanks for watching this video.
The relatives of men who served in the liberation army are still bullied today, that must suck.
Really? Didn't know this.
In what way?
Good. They collaborate with Nazis. NAZIS
@@Zhicano U have no idea about Russia and our history so shut up. So many people suffered under Stalin and I bet if your family was harmed and killed by Bolsheviki u would support anyone fighting them
@@Zhicano yeah, and?
General Vlasov was captured in 1942. I have read that a Dutch Waffen-SS unit took part in his capture. One German Army officer who worked with General Vlasov and the "Russian Liberation Army" (ROA) was Wilfried Strik-Strikfeldt. There is a monument to General Vlasov and the ROA, in Nanuet, NY. Two interesting books:
"Against Stalin and Hitler", by Wilfred Strik-Strikfeld
"Joining Hitler's Crusade", edited by David Stahel
He was not captured- he willingly surrendered.
@@geothonNo,he was captured actually. He stayed with his men until end,while being surrounded
To put into perspective in allied countries every woman who had relationship with german soldiers was beaten, stripped naked, got their hair cut, and paraded through the streets. These women werent actively fighting their own countrymen on the battlefield.
Vasili Malyshkin, a major-general in the Red Army and later also one in ROA after he was captured, surrendered to the Americans. He gave details to the Americans of the structure of the Red Army, but in spring 1946 he was handed over to Moscow. Perhaps there had been some indecision about handing him over, hence the delay of eight or nine months or so, but eventually he was and was executed.
Was there a similar Soviet unit raised among German POWS?
Not a chance. Zero.
Nope, although there was a so-called National Committee for a Free Germany that operated in the USSR.
There was units made of croats that were in german service than took as POW.
First, until fall of Stalingrad Soviets did not have any significant number of German POWs. Second, shortage of manpower was not Soviet’s main problem, at least not until late 1944. It was shortage of equipment for available men. For example, the so called Ander’s army, an independent fighting force organized out of Poles arrested in Soviet captured eastern Poland and sent to Siberia in 1939-1941 was equipped with arms delivered by the US and GB. Third, Stalin was paranoid about mistrusting foreigners and this extended to Soviet citizens. For example, the Volga Germans who lived in Russia for centuries were largely excluded from military service. Overall I am not aware of anybody in the Soviet regime even entertaining a thought of creating German troops.
More, initially German POWs were treated in a manner mirroring the appalling German treatment of Soviet POWs, they were expected to die quickly through malnutrition, as Soviets didn’t have enough food to even feed their own population. The fate of German POWs improved only as the war was ending as Soviet realized that instead of starving them they can be put to rebuilding the country. Work battalions of German POWs was a common sight in the late 40s USSR. For propaganda reasons it was not much publicized and I believe it is never depicted in soviet movies of the period.
Now that you’ve talked more in depth about the ROA and their story you should talk about the RFP, or Russian Fascist Party, who were the whites that you mentioned went to China. Their tale is also very interesting.
Perhaps something for the future. I have a video about a party of the Black Hundreds who can also be seen as such:
ua-cam.com/video/oonp1-IekPA/v-deo.html
At first my thought was “good some content about the uprisings by the White Russian army’s against the red USSR.” I was hoping to look for some winner in all of this. Instead it’s absolute tragedy and death on all sides.
I remember hearing once; the USSR and nazi Germany were both socialists. The distinction between the 2 was one is based on social class while the other based on race. In the end ww2 was an uprising and revolution against monarchy, and after their overthrows, it was an outright bloodbath and slaughter on all sides.
And to think 1 of these 2 socialist movements won ww2. These wicked people in power are still alive today. Equally slaughtering the innocent the same way Stalin and hitler did. Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Eastern Africa. The genocide never ended, we are still living with them. God have mercy on us.
Thank you for this video.
Thank you for taking the time to watch and write a reply.
1)Socialism is a form of economic system .
2)Class struggle (Social system not economic system ) is a struggle between proletariat and borgouse .(Social conflict)
3)racial hierarchy (Social system not economic) is achieved by purification of society by superior race to survive against inferior (Social conflict not economic)
4)both of them (German Reigh and USSR) WERE Totalitarian their distinction were that one was communist based economy (not socialist) and another Capitalist based economy.
THIS WAS AN ACADEMIC DEBUNKING OF YOUR STATEMENT ,IM SICK OF PEOPLE WHO LACK BASIC ACADEMIC SOCIO-ECONOMIC KNOWLEDGE but they write of how they were both socialist.
I can admire your sympathy though for Russians and Germans who died needlessly over some stupid ideologies.
Had the Germans treated the soviet civilians well, they might have won the Eastern front.
Maybe, but here is the thing: it was never in the ideology of the Nazis to do this...
@@HistoryHustle if I'm correct, I think even Himmler came to this realisation.
They could have treated them well until they had won the war then do what they want afterwards. Obviously they were too confident in their abilities to subdue the huge Soviet landmass
Edit: I know i have said this before but I can't believe how good your English is. Superb
There was never explciit anti slavism in nazi ideology, it was doctrines of specific people like Erich Koch that prevented cooperation. Rosenburg and Wachter for example wanted to raise anticommunist slavic units@@HistoryHustle
A mystery man of ROA was Mileti Zykov. A Red Army private, he was captured or defected in 1942 and claimed he had worked on the Soviet newspaper Izvestiya but had spent time in the Gulag during the late 1930s. (Zykov seems in fact to have worked on less important provincial Soviet newspapers.) He assisted ROA with propaganda but there were rumours he was of Jewish origin (one Russian account referring to him said he would not use a shower block when others were using it, and this was thought to be an attempt to stop others from knowing he was circumcised). He disappeared in the summer of 1944, possibly picked up by the Gestapo from a small town south of Berlin where he was based. His fate has never been determined. The rumours that he was of Jewish origin seem to have been well-founded - his original name was apparently Emil Yarkho.
Do you think Vlasov and Stefan Banderas ever met?
Nope. Bandera was most of wartimw imprisoned by the Nazis.
make a video about the 1944 estonian declaration of independence, i need to know more
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Please one episode for Serbische Freiwillingenkorps 1941-1945
One day perhaps!
Very interesting. Suggestion: Britain was indebted to the USA for 60 years after WW2 for purchases of war equipment. USSR also took delivery of millions of tonnes of American/UK goods. Was this debt ever repaid?
Thanks for your reply, good question also. I think it was never repaid because of the Cold War.
Yes, they gave 30 million lives
@@legokingtm9462 strange reply. So did the Poles, British and Commonwealth, even America. Should the British death toll be deducted from the debt?
@@HistoryHustle It was repaid, as far as I remember in gold. Keep in mind Soviet Union was purchasing grain from Canada and the US (again paid in gold) to feed its population throughout Cold War, which of course required reasonable trading relations. There was also much pressure put on the USSR to compensate western citizens for property “nationalized” (euphemism for stolen) after the Revolution, but this as far as I can tell never happened. Propaganda aside, it is doubtful Soviet Union would last as long as it did without Western help, before and after WWII.
@@legokingtm9462 Soviet Union did not lose 30 million soldiers during WWII and the Soviet losses were to a large extent due to collapse of defenses in 1941 and subsequently due to inept commanders, including such towering figures like Zhukov and Stalin himself. Since WWII was started by Germany and the USSR in September 1939 I do not see how how Soviet losses could be considered repayment of any debt to the West. Maybe modern Russia should compensate countries she invaded, enslaved and exploiter in the 30s and 40s and later during the Cold War?
Vlasov and his ROA along with the resistance fighters in Prague liberated Prague, but claiming the Red Army had done it was a lie agreed upon. Most history books still contain it.
Made a separate video on that
ua-cam.com/video/q6HfoTfBOvc/v-deo.html
Man that is crazy
I know!
I dont get your intro, what Belarusian , Ukrainian flags have to do with ROA?
Belorussians and Ukrainians also served in the ROA, despite this formation being called 'Russian'
Very lucky fellow that comrade Pozdnyakov.
Sorry I'm late Dutch guy....
But I'm here now
No problem. Glad you caught this one!
How many soldiers ROA had in total?
I don't have exact numbers. I believe around 600,000 Soviets who served for Germany (out of one million) were Russian.
@@HistoryHustle The entire ROA counted about 50,000 people. Hiwis (who were not a fighting force) officially counted 600,000 people, but I suspect actual number was larger.
my uncle was repatriated after the war, he was able to survive post Stalin. Unsure of which unit he was with. Family was unsure of his whereabouts for many years after the war
Thanks for sharing this.
What never-ending horrors were happening in 1944-1946.
Why did the US Army not allow these poor men to stay in the USA?! They knew what Stalin had in store for these poor people.
Can you cover the Operation Bloodstone? LOL!
UPRISING WAS IN WARSAW POLAND 01 AUG 1944, NOT IN PRAGUE
Ehm... There was also one in Prague, 1945. That's the one I'm talking about.
@@HistoryHustle you said 1944 in your clip....
How did Vasili Grandfather Survive from 1945-73, that is a story in itself.
Yes..first he was in Munich, then the US.
It is hard to be a European person born from late 19th century to the early 1920s. Wars, oppression and lack of justice forced everyone (of that generation ) for himself / herself. If you happened to be in the Red Army at the western front in 1941/42 what choices do you have just to survive?
Indeed, not much of a choice.
@@HistoryHustle fight *for* your Motherland, for one.
i find it funny how ppl that are complaining about ukrainian nazis are not in this video.
Thanks for watching this one 👍
Good for General Patton, 'ol blood 'n guts!
ok
It seems that most of the people the Americans gave immunity to in return for intel on Russia and the East were of low value. But I think some of these ROA types might have been significantly more value.
I can understand.
u mean n*zls? Gelehn group, ClA+b4ndera... operations gladio, lynx, belladonna
Another great video, thank you Dutchman teacher, awesome job
Thanks!
@History Hustle I grew up by Fort Dix, and recently learned about this story. Very crazy.
How did Hitler see the Slavs as inferior ? I found little no concrete information on the subject
In Mein Kampf he already touches on the topic by advocating Lebensraum in the East.
Hitler always saw the slavs as less than then, it's super common knowledge and all over mein kampf
@@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu aren't Slavs Aryans though technically
@@blood5096 There is no such thing as Aryans, unless of course you mean the original Indian ethnic group. If you mean the German term, it was a made up racial term meant to prove German superiority. It was a nonsense. For example about 30% of Prussia’s population was of Polish thus supposedly Slavic extraction.
Lmao, the subtitles read "Reds" as "rats". Don't you find them y'know... peculiarly auspicious?
lol
Fine
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funny that today the Czech want to put up a monument to Vlasov. There is one in the USA too.
I've heard there actually is a monument somewhere in Prague. Not sure... There indeed is one in the US.
Vlasov want to treat as equal from the Germans , but they want a traitor not an ally ( Kartie )
Please explain.
Eplain what ?? According to τhe historian the Germans did not wanted an ally but a traitor which be usefull in the future
In 1942 the Germans continued to believe that will be the winners in the war
Vlasov was in Berlin and drank, and in 1943 the tide was turning and Hitler gave the permission for P.O.A and not only
I understand now.
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Thanks!
1:14 - "SU" painted on shirts of POWs - a normal German practice with Soviet POWs. It could also be painted on their trousers. The photographer may have been homing in on allegedly Jewish facial features in the case of this man.
Nobody was spared from Stalins madness. Not even the Russians.
Many others suffered too yes.
Russian Army General Baron Pyotr Wrangel was commanding general of the anti-Bolshevik White Army. Died suddenly in 1928, and Wrangel's family believed that he had been poisoned by his butler's brother, who lived in the Wrangel household in Brussels briefly and who was allegedly a Soviet agent. Wrangel's funeral and burial took place in Brussels, but he was reinterred on October 6, 1929 in the Holy Trinity Russian Orthodox church in Belgrade, Serbia according to his wishes
Wrangel was a hero to the end and in a better world he would have saved Russia.
Interesting, didn't know about Wrangel.
@@kinggundragon3728 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_All-Military_Union
Bad news for any of them that survived the war .................Stalin was not exactly a sympathetic human being .
True.
You should consider making a rap video
Lol
Wonder if any of them fought in the battle of Berlin, what a trip that would be!
As far as I know they weren't there. Most of them were pulled off the Eastern Front since the Nazis feared for their loyalty.
If you are using colorizations at least credit the colorizers....You are using his work
If you comment this, next time look at the video description and see the colorizer is credited.
You have edited it....
@@ATH420 Colorization Nazi?
@@pawelpap9 You have enough neurons to dont shit yourself
God bless General Patton!! Stood up to Soviet scourge and appeasement !!!!
I see.
I don't. Huh?
All those people (POW, civilians) would like the return in Soviet Union. For 10 to 25 years of skiing.
I see.
@@HistoryHustle Unfortunately, but Hitler would have made the same.
How did he survive the Purges? Surely only the most ardent Stalin supporters would have?
I get that he felt betrayed by Stalin when his unit was cut off and decimated .. seems an opportunistic individual. Who can blame him though? Surely no-one could be worse than stalin --??? 🤨
Although many were purged not all were.
Cannot find the right words, but this history is both fascinating, and painful to listen to. Should be required study for all political leaders to make them understand where military conflicts may lead. Modern Europe and the EU are not perfect, but have kept the continent mostly free of war, and helped areas like the Balkans achieve lasting peace.
Maybe we can learn from History after all?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.
Was there any country the Nazis invaded that didn’t have some level of collaboration from the citizens of the occupied nation?
Poles and Serbs. To some level Greeks.
@@eremstemero8823 Serbia had a collaboration movement. Government of National Awakening.
I have to joke about ROA as Hitler's Soviet army.
Tell us.
Good job 🇷🇺🤝🇩🇪🤝🇳🇱
Thanks for your reply 👍
Russian Liberation Army
Volunteer Legion Netherlands
German Army
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Union between Soviets and Nazis in 1939-41 was free-will...
ROA collaboration with Nazis was free-will too!
Please explain.
I bet the house on fire at ua-cam.com/video/rheJ8IjuyO0/v-deo.html has been replaced by the famous Dancing House in Prague.
Yes, believe so too.
Kaminski was half Polish and half German.
Ok.
One of his parents was a Pole. But Kaminski never been a Polish citizen. He was born in Russia and he lived in USSR all his lifetime.
Sometimes I like to think and brainstorm possible "what if"-scenario, where Russia would be split by two after WW2, like Germany did. West Russia would be German puppet state and East Russia would be Soviet Union. What kind of Cold War would that scenario produce?
And before you comment that Germany would have never won the war: I know that.
We'll never know. I think "East Russia" would be at the mercy of Japan who - if also not defeated - would probably take that over. I think.
What if the USSR wasn't massive with a huge population then it could have happened.
I think korea will be united but a puppet state. China would be fighting both Germany and Japan.
The original Barbarossa goal was a line from Archangelsk to Astrakan. Controlling the vastness beyond the Urals is sound geo politics, but haven't heard of anything substanial beyond maintaining somesort of frontier and such fantasies. The Germans got near Astrakan with Fall Blau, a reconnaissance vehikle shot a train from the tracks. The Japanese never dared to start a war with Russia after their sound defeat in the Battle of Khalkhin Gol (and Zhukovs ascend), is what I understand. That's why the Siberian reserves could be called to Moscow. The Japanese army had tanks, but they were 'good enough' to fight poorly equiped Asian armies, but not suited for tank on tank warfair with Russia.
@7:40... zero lies detected
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harrowing.
Yes.
The most patriotic russian army ever
I see.
РОА = Heroes - always in our hearts 🙏🏻
Please explain.
traitors
@@HistoryHustle he is an idiot. I think, from Ukraine.
@@asocialsocialist2534 Red Scum
cringe
He also had the Ss..lBut u had to prove u are of pure ethic russian (Ruthanian) decent..same thing gilt also for the French or anyone else. U had to prove ur heritage
I doubt it, they basically rallied all the people they could get. With the initial recruits from Nordic countries (Dutch, Danish, Norwegian) your heritage had to be proven.