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The video on Why African Nations Failed After Independence which was taken down by UA-cam is now available: ua-cam.com/video/jPdIBmiyNrE/v-deo.html
Christianity is WHY African Nations "Failed" along with all of the colonized countries from the 15th century forward. The Papal Bull of 1452 from Pope Nicholas V specifically stated that any land available not owned by Christians should be taken and their inhabitants enslaved.
It's not really Critical Race Theory after all, is it. It's just history.
Edited For Spelling if "Papal".
@@JohnDoe-lc9yj Foolish. African nations with high Christian majority happen to be the most prosperous, Ghana, Nigeria, the Ivory Coast, Cameroon, etc. Even in Nigeria which is multiethnic, prosperity is greatest among the Christian states. Same with Cameroon. On the contrary, parts of Africa with little influence of Christianity have little or no prosperity, which explains the extreme poverty of countries such as Niger, Burkina Faso, and the Central African Republic.
This of course is necessary if only facts matter to you.
@@ThomasSowellTV That's true. i read a book that was a compilation of Essays on Christianity & Freedom (Historical Perspectives). There's tons of citations for further reading. Those countries where conversion to Christianity was most prevalent were those areas most prosperous in the end even after Europeans left. Even areas like Kerala, india show this, even when India overall is very diverse and Christianity in india is mostly concentrated in Kerala. Unsurprisingly, success of Christianity in any area conquered by Europeans depended on the Church evangelizing NOT being associated with the government controlling the area. So Anglicanism didn't have any success in india; but catholicism did.
@@ThomasSowellTV Christianity had to be imposed on those nations, usually by western dominating forces. Therefore they've been industrialized to the extent that the West could capitalize on their cheap labor.
@Thomas SowellTV The plains Indians didn't hunt the Buffalo too extinction. The Buffalo being hunted almost too extinction was due to the the introduction of the Sharps 50 caliber rifle and the popularity of buffalo coat and hide furniture in the east, and Europe. Buffalo were killed by the thousands daily to supply this trade. The Buffalo went from herds numbering in the millions, to almost extinction because of the trade in their skins by buffalo hunters, not the plains Indians. As matter of fact one of them became very famous in the old west, Buffalo Bill was his name.
I am a Dine(Navajo) my great great grandfathers are Chief Barboncito and Delgadito the first blacksmith. I was born in Fort Defiance and my home is in Crystal, NM. Apparently Chief Narbona was related through marriage also. When I was younger my father showed me the old battle field in Copper Pass and there are still bone fragments up there including partial skulls but we are forbidden from handling them. I am also a US Army Veteran, so is my sister, my father was a Vietnam Marine Veteran, uncles and two grandfathers who were Code Talkers in WW2, Leslie Hemstreet and John Brown Jr. I am very proud to be an American, I will do as my forefathers and protect it will my life against all enemies foreign and domestic.
But your people have been exterminated by the white man. Your land taken. And your way of life destroyed. Do you not feel anger at the white man ?
You sure are Great America thank you for serving our country
Thank you for your service. You are a great American.
You should write a book. The world needs to read your story. 🦁
I'm Shoshone Bannock and never served. I'm a hunter and if it was any other country that conquered us I wouldn't have had that right to be a hunter. So when the enemy steps foot on our soil, I'll be there with you guys.
“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government
take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.” - Henry Ford
Ford was also an antisemite until he saw what Hitler did. Nobody anywhere but Communist countries has ever deliberately killed so many people.
Great point!
This why The Ire/ Scotia Returned to Turtle Island. Certainly the DNA did in 1638 AD arriving in Californasia ! I/ We shall all be swimming in the vortex of change
Correctamundo ✔
Heartbreaking and true.
I truly admire this guy. He is not simply smart, he is also very wise.
Most likely why the government saw little use for him since he possesses integrity as well.
@Curiouser and Curiouser what? Was that even english? Was there even a point being made? Learn to be more coherent in your arguments.
@Curiouser and Curiouser no, just able to be understood.
He's also "old"as the fucken wind
@Curiouser and Curiouser You having a conversation with anyone is going to be painfully slow because of your mental disability.
God bless Thomas Sowell for telling the truth related to past American history and not blurring the lines with todays political lies.
Except he got the end wrong where he said the plains Indians hunted the buffalo to extinction is untrue for two reasons: The buffalo are still alive and not extinct and it wasn't the plains Indians it was the US army, they couldn't capture them on the prairie so they took out their food source.
@@lancejames1916 he said "virtual extinction" do you have a source for your claim about the u.s army?
@@TheManWhoTypes Yeah its in the history books it's not false information bug it wasn't just the army, it was also furtraders and bounty hunters but I'll find a video I can post but there's an iconic photo where buffalo skulls are stacked like 60 feet in the air.
The Buffalo was out salvation. We used Food, shelter, bones and sinew for weapons. The Buffalo was very important to us and the military knew that. Warfare you take over the natural resources water and food. Every Buffalo killed was a Indian gone.
The video neglected to mention the buffalo hide hunters, who shot and killed the millions of bison that the Indians relied on to survive-------- Once the railroads went in, speculators charged a fee for people to randomly shoot the bison from the trains--- the natives must have been aghast with the horror that these Anglo whites shot their main food source and wasted most or all of the meat--- The cavalry couldn't defeat the red man on the battlefield, so they eliminated their food source in order to subjacate the plains tribes----
One thing that is completely overlooked with sowell: not only was he an economic genius, but he is also an amazing historian. Possibly one of the greatest humans to exist in the 20th century.
And at least 22% of the 21st!
He wasn’t published in any really impressive academic journals
He is still alive.
@@JmO-ee1bi Because they ignored him. His writing didn't fit the narrative of those academic journals that really aren't impressive at all.
@@JmO-ee1bi that's because he had common sense ability and reason. Unwanted.
What I like about actual history, as opposed to the crap they teach in school, is that it's so much more interesting. All the various peoples can be seen as not subhuman, not superhuman, just plain human with very human motivations and flaws.
He said the plains Indians hunted the Buffalo to virtual extinction and that is not true. I've seen photographic evidence and read a great numerous accounts of a United States military tactic to slaughter Buffalo on the plains to starve the Comanche into surrendering, rather than fight them. I you're interested in the history of the plains Indian, as many people are, I recommend you look into this fellow S.C. Gwynn who wrote "Empire of the Summer Moon"
@@dondonnelly5278 Both can't be true? I've seen ancient Navajo and Hopi sites in the Southwest. They had no better sense of ecology than any other peoples and the only thing that allowed them to continue was their population was so low they could get away with all sorts of wasteful practices. Which doesn't mean the Army didn't have a plan to kill buffalo.
It was the white Buffalo hunters who decimated the herds. They did if for the skins which were sold. The meat was left to rot on the plains. The army saw what was taking place and turned a blind eye because they knew the impact upon plains Indians. Besides, by this time much of the land had proven its worth for crop production. There's now way Midwest farming could coexist with roaming Buffalo herds. What happened to the American Indians was inevitable from the day Columbus set foot in the Caribbean. When a people with superior technology bump up against an inferior technology, the conclusion is preordained. OTOH, the American Indian is now counted among the most honored of American citizens.
@@dondonnelly5278 That was the only part I saw as inaccurate. I was under the impression many buffalo were killed by poachers who the railroad companies paid to make way for the railroads.
@@dondonnelly5278 I have no doubt natives massively over hunted the Buffalo to trade for guns and such.
Gotta love the ambiguity here. It's not "one side good one side bad"
It's almost as if throughout history humans acted primarily in the interest of themselves, their nations, and their families rather than just deciding to be good or just be evil 🤔
This is how "history" reads when it is written by neither the victors nor the conquered.
Dinesh D'Souza refers to the "conquest ethic" and how it dominated world history until recently.
Right ?
Started figuring I must be the only one thinkin' such..
Acting primarily in the interest of ourselves is the only way we as humans become evil.
Thomas Sowell is a bright and shinning star among economist, he tells the truth and backs it up with facts, we need more like him.
Sowell is certainly a talented propagandist and he knows his audience but where are his facts in this video. Which primary documents did he source? Any documents whatsoever? I did notice that instead of sources he provided links to his store...that is curious. He is a story teller, and is telling stories that his audience wants to hear. Any history of the plains indians that is 12 minutes long is not meant to tell any real history.
@@orclover2353 Apparently you have not taken the time to actually read Sowell. If you had you would know where he got his information.
Do you truly believe the Native peoples over hunting buffaloes and beavers caused them to be more dependent upon the US government? Please do your own research and stop listening to this propaganda.
What facts.
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Mr. Sowell, please take extraordinary care of yourself to the best of your ability. You are a living legend in terms of knowledge and intellect. At least once a month I think about your inevitable demise and am saddened by the thought at our collective loss your death represents. If nothing else, thank you, for being you. Sorry to come off morbid, but it is a concern of mine that keeping to myself does no one any good.
I cannot express fully what your tireless and thankless work means to me. I am not religious myself, but may your God bless you!
Jason
Literally everyone has to complete the cycle of life, Dr. Sowell is not the only person who dies, plus he has lived a productive and long life. I’ll be happy if he gets to enjoy his old days with his family. That’s more than most people in this world. U have to be extra grateful to be able to deal with death 💀
Very true Jason, we just have to hope that Thomas' knowledge and wisdom will last, who knows, here in Scotland, like England our history is being re written and massed lies told to brainwash the next generation. Blessings from Scotland.
That;s why I have some of his books.
Mr. Sowell, be not just grateful for the full life that you have chosen to construct for yourself and your family, be proud of the accomplishments of research, hard work, maintaining courage in the face of fierce criticism, the spreading of unpopular truth in the face of the lies spread by “elites” in the government and in universities, and for so many things you have accomplished of your own free will. I am honored to get to experience your teaching and understand your wisdom. As a nation, we are bettered for your being here in this place and during this time. Thank you for your persistent pursuit of truth and the sharing of it. You set the bar high.
@Curiouser and Curiouser ~ He is full of truth because he worked consistently and diligently his whole life. He “knows all of this” because he worked hard to pursue truth. Small minded ignorance cannot stand up to truth. That ignorance will always fail and remain small. Oh, that I would have chosen the path that he spent his life on. Three hundred and great is just better than mean and small.
Dear Mr. Sowell, thank you for your knowledge anď your willingness to share it with us in such a pristine way. 🇨🇿🗽🇺🇸
Best wishes to all decent people from Prague, Czech republic! 🌞
Love from Tucson Arizona USA
@Curiouser and Curiouser the era is not prehistoric, don't you realize? Sowell did research rather than simply start with a story he wanted to tell and then cover those pieces of data that supported that story. It's quite simple, though not easy. Try a little work and maybe you too can rise above ignorance.
@Curiouser and Curiouser yes, c&c, you read my comment with your own confirmation bias, thereby missing it's point entirely and wasting both my time and yours. No one who researches history need to be the subject of that history or there would be no history at all. The historians whose bias you prefer are also not 300 years old and native American. Indeed, both victim and abuser would be expected to write bad history of they are normal humans. In the event, a man with neither bias is likely more objective. Given Sowell's own history of data analysis, I doubt very much either you or I have put his typical rigor into the subject. A good measure of this is that the complaint 98 percent of the dissenters here have lodged isn't even something he alleged -- if you read his comment on that regard more precisely. Good fortune to you anyway.
@@cordeg Nice coherent and non-haughty writing, sir! (I couldn't just say I completely agree, could I? I don't want to get "confirmation bias" reaction like you did...)
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I cannot belive there is still not a single translated Thomas Sowell's book on sale in czech language?! 😔 (shame on us)
The fact that I am often triggered and upset by factual statements you make, tells me I have much to unlearn. I pray that if I cannot remain humble, I can at very least remain teachable. Thanks for everything.
How can something factual be upsetting? Other than a horror happening that we before did not know happened ?
Only those in search for real truth speak as you have. Never stop doing that.
Your attitude is admirable.
I spent 2 years of my life basically discovering everything I had read, or heard, was nonsense, and what I learnt was to embrace discovering where I was wrong, and to never outright dismiss anything. I even given a lot of "out there" conspiracy theories a fair shake. Cause what I learnt about banking, or Thatcher, and especially government, all turned out to be wrong
Even the stuff I believe now I'll love to know where I'm wrong. Maybe I don't fully understand banking (well I don't but I know a lot), is there some history on socialism or capitalism that if I learnt it would change my thinking?? Maybe, I'm certainly no longer a socialist, I find their arguments weak, and often based on lies (and even absurd lies), but that doesn't mean I have more to learn.
However saying all that most stuff I learn now reinforces my views, even when I'm trying to challenge them
@Curiouser and Curiouser from real historical documentation. Not like you ignorant leftist do with feelings over facts. Stop being so racist.
Im a direct descendant of people from the Texas Indian wars, specifically a wagon driver, who would tie bundles of straw to the wheels of his wagon to keep noise to a minimum and make it harder to track, due to Indian raids. Apparently a young boy from the family, about eight, was taken from a settlement, and they gathered a posse to track the boy down... They caught up with them but he was killed by a spear and left in the brush. Frontiersmen from around Waco.
What's your thoughts on your ancestors being called Indian when they aren't?
I doubt your sneaking a wagon past any skillful tracker although it makes sense for soundproofing reasons. I’m Scottish but I guarantee I can track hoof prints, wheels and straw everywhere lol
Well... I would break out the book of Lambs that the story came from but it's not mine. I'll see if I can get pictures of it, and I'll see if I can post it somehow. Just the story I read that was passed to me.
@Curiouser and Curiouser What is your objection? You should try challenging some of his points instead of using the old “ were you there?” argument.
@Curiouser and Curiouser It's called research. Sowell was a left wing radical in his younger days.
Right, wrong, or indifferent, so much of this boils down to the machine age kicking the sh!t out of the stone age.
Bravo
The man has a mind of his own, and you can learn a lot from him. I have.
I stumbled onto him about 5 years ago and have read a number of his books,books that one can read over and over again.
Before the horse, the cheyenne were in central minnesota harvesting wild rice and partaking of deer, ducks, and their gardens. With the horse came vicious war upon them from other tribes and the cheyenne gave up that lifestyle to move out onto the high plains where distance was a large asset in making defensive war plans. More than half stayed well north and made friends with the lakota and sioux by helping them attack their enemies.
Hi, Lee
Thank you for your most incite full comments.
Very few White folks recognize what an impact their arrival in America has had on Native American lives and culture.
The Spanish release of " Horse Technology ", and the spread of that technology to the more Northern Native Indian Nations' ran head long into the native peoples of North East, and North Central indigenous peoples fleeing the Whites encroachment on their historic home lands.
It was a cultural and technological clash that heralded the destruction of technologically inferior cultures, by those who had adopted superior technology. Whether they themselves had developed it or not.
Tim
The Comanche were very deserving of the reputation of native tribes being savages.
They raided settlements all the way down to northern Mexico and frequently kidnapped children after slaughtering their parents
@@lindaeasley5606 The horse transformed the Comanche from a tribe no one cared about to a tribe that slaughtered all rival tribes and controlled a vast part of the southern plains.
@@kurtf31r That must have been one ornery horse to have come up with such an idea and then led a tribe into such a radical change of lifestyle. Joking aside, I recognize the horse was a disruptive factor, but I think we all know that a human being or group of them made choices and decisions of what new path to follow. And that path was destructive unfortunately.
Then the Cheyenne invaded Blackfoot territory in Montana, taking about half of it. Once the Blackfeet got their own horses they were able to turn the tables against the Cheyenne and drive them out. By then the Crow and Lakota had taken the Dakotas and Wyoming, so the Blackfeet couldn't expand any farther south or east than the modern borders of Montana.
Never thought of this before: the magical, idyllic, "traditional" lifestyle so warmly portrayed in Dances With Wolves was in fact only a few hundred years old and a result of the introduction of a new animal, the horse, by Europeans.
Yeah, I didn't know that either.
Horses changed everything for the Plains people of North America. But they also survived for 15,000 yrs with out them. What I find interesting is how little they changed the landscape in 15,000 yrs. Places like Mesa Verde and the Mounds are few.
@@kevinkline6835 I agree. There's a lot about those cultures that's fascinating and yet, sadly, lost to history. Why couldn't Costner make a movie about them? I learned recently about one Native who basically traveled half the continent on foot and by boat in search of his ancestors, and met all these different tribes, and some tribes said to go to such-and-such a place and you'll find this people, or, watch out for these guys over there. They may even have ambushed some Russians in the Pacific Northwest. Fascinating.
@@seanrcollier Yes, The history of the America's is very fascinating. To me anyways. LOL But I think Mel Gibson would my go to for a history movie. Keep learning. It's a wonderful topic.
@@kevinkline6835 Anyway my point is, the tribe in Dances With Wolves never even thought to thank the Spaniards for all the horses. It just absolutely frosts me
When common sense, and acquired intellect arrive at beautiful congruence, we get Thomas Sowell.
Data can be collected … intellect (or the ability to process that) is a genetic gift.
Also lesser intellects worshiping that which others would consider normal to them… is a bad look. Both for yourself and for the sake of intelligence.
I wish Mr. Thomas was 30 years old right now so mine and others future children could grow up with him. A massive tool not only for libertarians and conservatives, but for humans in general, whom look for knowledge and guidance in the age of “disinformation”
Great to have objective history rather than ideological spin
It's not objective. it's deresponsabilising .
@@maxyoubi3917 that's your opinion
That is exactly how we were brainwashed in school
@@yehimstone5492 that's what he's doing, not what I think.
@@maxyoubi3917 deresponsabilising? 🤣
A very well put together video. I appreciate how fair and factual it was
God Bless You Russell Means
Not only should every black American child, but all American children should be well acquainted with the writings of Dr. Sowell.
I actually would agree, but I'm not a huge fan. Sowell was a "black" Conservative, but I'm "white". It grates on me that he refers to the western advance as that of "whites", as if this were one people. If we were all "whites" then explain Northern Ireland, the French & Indian Wars, or any number of other wars between "whites". What about "blacks"? Were they unified and can be generalized? The same goes for the "Indians", "Indigenous Peoples", "First Nations", etc. Things could be better explained as a more advanced (varied) culture running into a less advanced culture. The current left wing intelligentsia would have us bow down to the primitive. My ancestors didn't think that was a smart move, and I'd have to agree.
I share with Thomas Sowell interest on multiple historical subjects.
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Robert Abell that's not happening you've been lied to. Tsk to teachers much i bet not i know a lot of teachers. Also principal's. You've been lie to big time
Good lord that has you people triggered. A video about native American history and you bring "transgenerlysing", whatever the hell that is, into it. Living rent free in your brain.
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I as a troublemaker was taken in by an amazing family at the age age of 16 by mere kindness. The wife a dear Ojibway woman and the father a Finlander. I’ve learned much from them. I was blessed by God to be there with them. They were hard working folk. I was lazy. I didn’t deserve they’re kind treatment. Im indebted to they’re kindness and generosity.
I love Thomas Sowell. He loves truth. Numbers. Facts. ❤️
Wounded Knee was not a battle. It was a slaughter.
@@edpreston1635 Custer set out to slaughter the Native Americans. Didn't quite work out.
@@edpreston1635 I have no idea how what you say about law and free trade applies to Native Americans. The law was used to subjugate them, treaties were regularly broken and Native people were denied the right to move and trade freely.
Let's hear more about wounded knee and the investigation
Blackfoot Indian nation here.
United States of America nation here.
@@yehimstone5492 ...Texas Nation here. Come on. We Texans. Big Brother!!!
@@yehimstone5492you whites sure are jealous of native Americans😅
Nobody cares nation here 😉
Pretty good. One problem at the end though, the decimation of the buffalo, whites greatly assisted in that as well.
That's just the history we learned through our liberal schools and Hollywood (Dances with Wolves). The accuracy of which seems to be challenged by Mr. Sowell.
@@jrvane11 There is very little I would challenge Mr. Sowell on, but this is one that I would. Native Americans were not the ones doing the following in 1872; During this year and the next two, an average of 5,000 bison were killed each day, every day of the year, as ten thousand hunters poured onto the plains. One railroad shipped over a million pounds of bison bones. Bison hunting became a popular sport among the wealthy.
@@RWebster325 and thus they saved the planet.
@@gcallananpainting Who saved the planet?
@@RWebster325 It has been well reported that horse was a "weapon of mass destruction" against the bison. The plains Indians and Bison lived in a very delicate balance until the introduction of the horse. It was reported by fur trappers and other explorers as early as the 1820's and 30's that the Indian tribes were complaining about the disappearing Bison. The white bison hunters did kick the bison almost to extinction but the tribes would have accomplished that goal if they had been left alone within a few decades.
Thank you
Dr. Sowell your a beautiful minded intelligence teacher i' never know this Geographic and ethnic Question to the answer's of this very topic in native history and yes Natives were Nomadic.🇺🇲🥰
Intelligence can not be taught
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Not all natives were nomadic people. It's like saying all European are nomadic. Natives were of many different ethnic groups; some live in plains, mountains, forests, near oceans, deserts and etc...
Dr. Sowell is brilliant!
Both, and. Both the Indians and whites had innocent people unjustly slaughtered, and both sides committed atrocities.
That, unfortunately, is the nature of human history ...
Humanity is a mix of dignity, and depravity, capable of performing acts of incredible mercy ... and utter depravity ...
I don't know about the Native peoples of North America (Canada and US, both), but looking at the practices, especially human sacrifices of their enemies, and a large part of South America was already drenched in blood, way before the Portuguese, and Spanish, arrived c. 15th Century, perhaps for millennia ...
Were some of the Plains Indians decent people ...? Naturally.
But creating the mythos of the 'Noble Warrior' ignores in the undoubted inter-tribal warfare, especially of land, food, and especially access to fresh water. I haven't dug nearly deep enough into their history, but if China and Japan both had their Warring Periods ... Well ...
It seems brutal warfare is etched way deeper into us humans than we care to think about ...
Sorry what? The plains Indians hunted the buffalo to virtual extinction? Sorry what? Once again what? WHAT?
Thank you sir, for probably the most educational experience of the day!
There are several great reads written by Native Americans and mountain men:
Thocmentony, Sarah Winnemucca a Paiute born 1844,
Ohíye S'a Charles Eastman a Santee Dakota born 1858, a physician, and help found the Boy Scouts and YMAC,
James Beckwourth, a Negro mountain man who lived with the Crow, and has an immigrant trail and a town in California named after him, and Beckwourth Days in Marysville CA.
@alex I think they can be downloaded for a few $ with kindle.
Can I add to that 'Empire of the summer moon' by S. C. Gwynne. It tells the story of the Comanches and their great leader Quanah Parker.
I wish I could have learned about this in high School. I had the 100% liberal version
The longform history of the Sioux vs settlers in the Dakotas is really eye-popping. We hear a lot about the peaceful Indians who sat around campfires all day, smoking weed, and eating buffalo meat. In fact, they were fighting each for territory. When they did, a warband wouldn't just kill the men. It was scorched earth warfare. They'd raid a village and kill everyone they found. They might save kids of a certain age, old enough to be somewhat independent, but young enough to be adopted successfully. Scalping and mutilation was part of the game. There was no protection for women or babies or old men. If they didn't like your tribe, your WHOLE tribe was taken out. The Comanche were relentless in Western Texas, fighting literally everyone. All of those rules Western Europeans came up with to sanitize war and make it a "gentleman's war"... none of that applied here. In fact, none of it really applies much of anywhere outside of Western Europe. Naturally, the Western Europeans were horrified, but no one else was horrified to see war extend to its full extent.
Now, to be sure, this isn't to dump on the Natives either. Merely, it's meant to simply tell the truth. The truth is that they were fearsome fighters when they felt called to it. Some tribes did more warring. Some less. When they did, there was a certain heroism and bravery to it - but according to their rules, not necessarily according to ours. They put up a hell of a fight, but lost a numbers game. Diseases wiped out 90% of the population. Competing tribes and white settlers killed off many of the rest. Europe suffered similarly with the Black Plague. Native populations were decimated and waves of migrations from east to west often created warfare, displacement, or replacement of peoples.
You do know he's talking about the late stage decay of native American society right?
@@kma3647 one thing we often forget about the indian wars, if they left the women and children alive they would simply have starved to death. they lived in a brutal and harsh world and were simply people of that world.
what made it liberal?
@@SupposeImRight it left out the native American tribalism and painted them as humble caring victims.
This is beyond BRILLIANT !!
"Empire of the summer moon" and "blood and thunder" are outstanding books if you want to know more about the settling of the west, plains Indians , Texas Rangers etc. Fascinating reading.
Excellent.
One of a few honest economists around.
Fascinating snippet of history. Thank you for sharing.
Hate sure is one ugly mistress. No matter what side your on.
Indeed it is.
Correctamundo ✔
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As always very well expressed and in a manner that is comprehended but in a soothing style that just makes one want to learn more. Thank you Mr Sowell
Wow! Very interesting! Mr Sowell. Most of this was never taught in school, even in the schools in the mid west.
Thank you!
Wounded Knee was not a battle it was a one-sided massacre
My understanding of the slaughter of the Bison is that buffalo hunters, wanting pelts, were the primary reason for the decline of the Bison.
Did you ever look into it for yourself? Checking multiple sources? Or us that just what you were told and believed without question?
Wanted pelts for clothing food to eat. Hides left over sold off to whoever would buy. Checkout the Buffalo jump in Southern Alberta Canada. Now a world heritage site.
And left the Meat rot.
It has been well reported that horse was a "weapon of mass destruction" against the bison. The plains Indians and Bison lived in a very delicate balance until the introduction of the horse. It was reported by fur trappers and other explorers as early as the 1820's and 30's that the Indian tribes were complaining about the disappearing Bison. The white bison hunters did kick the bison almost to extinction but the tribes would have accomplished that goal if they had been left alone within a few decades
I greatly appreciate the objective and very clear narrative.
One of the most brilliant men of our times
Compared to you, sure.
@@jasonbrown372 brilliantly done
Interesting study. Thank you Dr Sowell.
I have a lot of respect for Mr Sowell, however its debatable at best, that Wounded Knee was a defined battle. Also debatable, and almost hilariously so, is that the Indians hunted the buffalo into extinction.
Best to do your own research on some of the statements made in this video 😉
Nothing like a video starting with 15 seconds of silence, prompting everyone to adjust their volume to see what the deal is...only to be yelled at by Thomas Sowell. LOL
Descendant of natives near Goliad/Corpus Christi..my tribe was Nogrenkarneeded..
Very thorough and logical explanation. Once again you've connected some important details. Great presentation.
The plains Indian did not hunt the buffalo to near extinction.
White fur traders and feeding the railroad workers did.
One man alone "Buffalo Bill" killed over 4k.
There might be another version, but Thomas Sowell sounds so sure and convincing that you hardly want to investigate further...
There is nobody to blame for History; it was just people trying to survive; some will come out on top, others will be remembered and honest and brave.
So has been the world since times imemorial...
Nice synopsis of what I was taught in public schools in the midwest US.
Sitting-BULLLLL-shit. Public schools teach liberal diatribes against white people.
It's stated that the natives with modern weapons where responsible for the depletion of the bison. However, I have read that it was white bison hunters due to the want of the hides, meat & the government's desire to deprive the food source of the native population that caused the decimation of the bison herds. Which is it?
Might want to research a place called “Buffalo jump” in The province of Alberta in Canada.
Both groups. The military killed as many as possible to deprive the Plains Tribes from their main source of sustenance, poachers killed vast numbers on railroads, fur traders killed many for their furs, and the Plains Tribes killed many as well. Some accounts state that the Plains Indians also killed the Bison to deprive white settlers, the U.S. Army, and other Native Tribes. The point should have been that humans are just as destructive as they are constructive regardless of ethnicity, that's why proper Stewardship of the planet is essential
Well done
Thank you for your works!!!! Truly appreciate you. I am working on my fifth book, covering the inaccuracies of how history is taught. It's refreshing seeing a UA-cam channel (yours) sticking to history and not Hollywood. There are things people should know. But then, there's so many UA-cam channels of people "teaching" history that are absolutely not correct. Examples below:
Such a sad story
Remember, This isn’t his channel, please buy his books.
Did he just say the plains Indians hunted the buffalo to virtual extinction?
Best to fact check that one 😉
No fact check needed. It is true. In fact, the Aboriginals, including the Metis, fought with each other for dominance in bison killing. @ianyork1759
@@JuneAdams-li9syThat's a lie the government paid wp to kill the buffalo to drive out the ndns
When Dr Sowell posts a video titled "History of..." I know it's gonna be about the people's brutality. Now this one is about the Comanche! I'm not missing it!
I don't think he is involved in this channel, it's just someone posting excerpts from his audiobooks.
your videos mean so much to me!
Sowell is Brilliant. This should be standard study in High School to counter the CRT crap being force fed to naive and ignorant student.s
Interesting information...
This chapter should be incorporated in every high schools textbooks. It’s wish that Sowell had written a history of the USA that could be used as a textbook.
*“Comanches put the prisoner to work digging a hole, telling him they needed it for a religious ceremony. When the captive, using a knife and his hands, had completed digging a pit about five feet deep, they bound him with rope, placed him in it, filled the hole with dirt, packing it around his body and exposed head. They then scalped him and cut off his ears, nose, lips, and eyelids. Leaving him bleeding, they rode away, counting on the sun and insects to finish their work for them. Later, back at their encampment, they told the story as an excellent joke, one which gained them a certain celebrity throughout the tribe.”* - *Stanley Noyes, **_Los Comanches, The Horse People 1751-1845_** (1993)*
Such savages, civilized people don't act that way*cough* the belgian congo *cough*.
Dauphin River First Nation Manitoba Canada 🇨🇦
Now this is American history
Let’s go brandon 🍦🍦🍦
Your last comment about the indians being responsible for the extermination of the buffalo contradicts the popular narrative.
I thought the settlers were responsible for overhunting the buffalo
good video I am so sorry for all of those people!!!!💜💜💜💜💜💜
Sad time in history. Unnecessary animosity and bloodshed
Can Dr Sowell clone himself? We need hundreds of him in academia right now
Thomas, a wonderful summary of the West's history. I have only one bone to pick: the Plains Indians did not "hunt the buffalo to extinction"--there were not enough Indians to do so. The Sharps rifle allowed white shooters to harvest hundreds of animals per day for their skins alone, and railroad passengers shot buffalo by the thosand for the mere fun of it (?!). Please do look into this and you will find it true. Thank you for your scholarly presentations, and this modest point is only for your further education in a very tiny way.
Sounds like 1250AD Constantinople
Overall message, stop Deifying Native Americans like they were some flawless and enlightened group of people. They were human just like the rest of us, thus were capable of the same flaws and shortcomings, thus were also violent, narrow minded, aggressive, and hostile. Yes some of them were peaceful but people really need to stop acting like all Native Americans were the same.
Noble Warrior Syndrome
I mean thats obvious but a poor excuse for the governments and big corporations genocidal policies.
Noble Savage....meh.
The noble savage is a myth, but the honorable settlers and heroic soldiers is a bigger distortion of history. Taking the land and its immeasurable value by force was stealing. Period.
Our land white man
As a First Nations person, I take exception to your statement that it was the plains Indians that hunted to buffalos to extinction.
The buffalos were hunted extinction by commercial hunters anxious to profit from the expanded requirements for leather to be used as flat belts to drive industrial machines. Next, came the military ,who wantonly killed these animals to deprive the indigenous people of their food source.
My wife is a Lakota Sioux, and I have learned much of her ancestry from the elders of her Nation. My Fathers people, the Cherokee, had been defeated, and removed from their land many decades before the final Westward movement.
The people of the plains were the last of the conquered Nations, save for the Yaqui, of Northern Mexico, who the last I heard, were still at war both with the US, and Mexico, having never surrendered, or held treaty with either.
Your recounting, is however the most accurate to date I have ever heard from any non Indian person. As Savages we are just so difficult to deal with in a civilized manner. LOL !!! Well done !!!
Tim
I'm a non Indian person and it being the white man that drove the Buffalo to extinction is, by far, the story told in movies, TV shows, and schools. I had never heard anyone suggest otherwise until I heard this version.
Yours is the story I was told growing up
That was indeed an odd thing to put into this vid. It's the first time I've ever heard anyone blame Indians for killing off the great herds.
That surprised me also. I always heard it was as you mentioned, and the railroads paying to exterminate them as well.
I too can't imagine the Indians hunting buffalo to extinction as the buffalo herds were massive in numbers. This is a first for me, to question Thomas Sowell.
A very interesting video. 🤔 I think the American Natives were given a bad deal. However I did not live in this time ( obviously) .
As a Cherokee, who's family came from Georgia, I should despise William Tecumseh Sherman and all of his people. Not only for what they did in Georgia, but for his policy of Concentration on Native people in the South United States.
However, His great, great Nephew married an old Girlfriend, and we get along very well.
Hatred stops, but for some it takes a damned long time.
Still have problems with Andrew Jackson though !!! LOL !!!
The supreme court was screwed up, and weak willed even back then. A treaty never got enforced till very recently !!! Any one want to buy a part of eastern Oklahoma, Check with the local tribe and see if you can make a deal. We own it all again !!! LOL !!!
Tim
The Canadian Experience was similar but less extreme as Canadian population was much smaller.
My Great Grandfather was a full blooded Blackfoot. Left the reservation to join the Marines during WW1. A great and strong and loving man was my great grandpa. But if you did cause him to lose his temper? God help you.
Been saying this for decades
Very engaging. Never heard the story involving Lincoln.
Truth in history is the only way we have to learn and not repeat what happened.
7:40
Next level truth or dare
Events don’t happen in a vacuum; they are the reaction to and consequence of other events.
Excellent presentation. I might question the assertion that natives were the primary cause of bison depletion. The US military in the 1870s had a great deal to do with it..
I caught this one too. The claim that the native Americans plains indians with horses and rifles wiped out the Buffalo is nonsense.
When you really want the ABSOLUTE TRUTH, good bad or indifferent Mr. Sowell is the MAN! Thank you.👍💪🙏
TAMLA TANETTE MOORE IS THE MOST HIGH AND UNSTOPPABLE TOO.. HOLY TURTLE ISLAND..WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HERE ❤️
Dr. Sowell I lived in Saudi Arabia for a time. I told my [British] mother that Saudi Arabia bedu culture was a combination of a very similiar culture to American Plains Indians....and British Culture during the time of the War of the Roses, the Plantagets, etc..
None of us were ever in this environment we can only be or know what we live in right now, the past does not exist we try to understand it the best we can to make today better. It does no good to extrapolate hatred from these events to insert them into today's living which is better than anyone in history ever had.
Can't we all just get along?
To think that the last of the fighting comanches and apaches lived to see the nuclear bomb is unreal.
I don't think it is at all accurate to say that the Indians hunted the deer, beaver, and buffalo to near extinction. With regard to the buffalo, the United States government had a deliberate policy of encouraging large scale hunting for the specific purpose of depriving the tribes of their primary food source.
His voice is so soothing while describing such a dark time.
Sowell fails to mention the hundreds of treaties made with the Indians giving them land and then breaking those same treaties to get gold or silver or other minerals the whites deemed valuable. He also needs to read Mari Sandoz’ book The Buffalo Hunter. In this work she details with devastating accuracy the role white hunters played in the virtual extension of the Buffalo. This is a good example of Sowell breaking his own rule. He remarks in his other books that an expert in one field thinks he is also an expert in other fields when in reality he is not.
Oh please....you didn’t know this? YIKES! 🤨