Worth noting at this time Crab King was a NA exclusive at this time. So Europe just had to rely on dice rolls and the decks inconsistently, which stopped Tower builds dominating before falling off to just pure variants.
Wow I cant believe this series has made it all the way here. May 2015 was the exact month that my friends and I (re)discovered Yugioh and ive been playing it ever since. really brings back some great memories
Shout out to Diamond crab king, the fact that that thing had to be played in any rank 4 deck in order to just go minus to out towers was so frustrating and you know I bit that bullet plenty of times.
I feel like just last week we were doing DAD format, this is going by too fast. I love this series. I quit during TeleDAD format and came back around VW, Tribrigade, and Drytron format. So seeing everything I missed out on is super enjoyable I kinda wish I stuck around for some of these. I'm excited to see one of you play Blue-eyes from the world championship here soon.
@@shrekisboss5759 you're not wrong lmao it was a die roll format for sure. VFD, Herald, and IO were classic 😂. I heard rituals were Good now and I couldn't resist. Ironically I like both of those formats more than the current shit tear/flu thing that passes for Yu-Gi-Oh. I understand the ishizu tear is skill intensive and all but I'm tired of only seeing that deck 95% of the time.
@@shrekisboss5759 The meta sucked yeah, but non meta? Soo fun. There are so many non-meta decks that actually work and are fun to play whereas back in teledad, non-meta decks actually sucked, and there weren't too many of them.
@@cybzer0560 agreed, I played a lot of Gren Maju in that era and took a lot of games and sets off meta decks. Herald is strong sure, but I'll just give them a sea turtle for their troubles. Let's not forget that Invoked was still very playable, salads were okay, Dragon link and Thunder dragon were still around, it was way way more diverse than people seem to remember. Even dinosaur had teeth at the time.
It is also worth noting that, at the time, Diamond Crab King was a JUMP promo and was therefore illegal to play in EU territories, so as a result, EU players had a significantly harder time with Towers.
The best way you could have played game 3 Cimoo is to SS the Graff and normal the scarm so that you have all three back row online and then Graff for MBT's turn
Ah this deck. Ran into it once when I got into a local scene for Yugioh with a bunch of dragons. Glad to see that we finally got to my first actual set I came into the game.
I remember watching this last year randomly while eating pumpkin pie. Now I get to watch this with a little bit more knowledge of what the heck has been going on and good Lord man stuff is insane.
I remember people chatting about Diamond Crab King being an out to Towers at the time, but of course since it was a manga promo, it wasn't legal in EU territories, meaning they had a somewhat harder time with Towers.
I can't wait for next week's intro where it goes "After the increased use of Qli during the dreaded Tier 0 Nekroz format thanks to Apoqliphort Towers there was a banlist players where waiting for... And it did nothing." And then it jumps into the deck profiles.
@@seth131 It doesn't because of the way it's worded, crab king doesn't raise it's attack by 3000 but changes it to 3000 so all prior modifiers simply don't matter.
Hey Cimo, do you think you could update your blocked words list? All these spammers say the exact same phrase and you could probably get rid of them if you filter those out.
can we please see - ba vs nekroz as was wcq format - perfromage nekroz, perfromage shaddoll, and clowblade, as of ycs dallas 2015 (so including norden, the lists without norden were a bit jank) - nekroz mirror match without djinn (arguably more skillfull and still super difficult) - early kozmo lists that were breaking out would be nice huge fan of the entire 2015 year of ygo, my locals does time wizards for october of that year. also put joseph on the kroz. ty :3
I honestly feel as if he does it on purpose because he thinks it’s funny and just to get a rise out of people since the number right one example is Stratos being STRAYTOS
Superheavy Samurai’s we’re a natural out to Towers. With their beefy Defence being used for attacks meant that Big Ben and Susanowo were able to beat over it. Also the fact that Cyber Dragon was naturally ran in this deck along with Star Eater made this deck the perfect anti Towers deck.
Okay, so there are a total of 19 Burning Abyss cards in Alex's main, side, and extra besides Barbar. The total max damage he could deal off of Barbar in theory is 19 * 300 which equals 5700. This means that in order to win against a turn one Towers, Alex would have to banish at least 17 of the available cards, dealing a minimum of 5100 damage, THEN attack directly with Nightmare Shark for 1500, HAVE IT LIVE FOR A TURN, and do it again. Or deck him out. Jesus Christ.
Well... don't forget that Scout burns 800 each time it's used, same for Skill Drain with 1000 and that you can still beat over some of the smaller ones to deal damage. It is a little odd that there were 2 acid golems of destruction in the extra, feel like whoever built that deck probably thought that it outs towers which it doesn't cause of the atk reduction
I realised now, Fiend Griefing is practically Ishizu before Ishizu. Also another although more far fetched parallel is that BA are like upgraded Fabled. Any card which works well with Fableds works even better with BA and they have added bonus on the field. That kind of "similarity" and the fact that Nekroz who slaughtered them were great as well, sort of helps me cope with the fact Fabled was never good.
And if you think about it, tearlament is basically upgraded lightsworn. "If you do....pretty much anything. Mill the top X cards of your deck." "If this is milled, benefit"
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Can't wait until we are in the pendulum era with Jank as well. There are so much garbage flying around in the ArcV era that is at least interesting like Train-Shaddolls I personally however, would hope for a shoutout of the Legacy of the Worthless series, where the Machine dup-Genex combo was discovered. Which on the low end is a +3 and a +6 at the high end. Which is comparable to the the Machine Dup Quick Fix play from Spyral format
Can I just say that as a MtG player, seeing how Mind crush works is frustrating in that you can’t activate it if you don’t have a hand. In MtG , effects can be activated even if nothing would come of it. You can target a player with no hand with an effect that makes them discard and it would still be a legal game action
Is nobody gonna talk about the killer situation in europe? The few outs (diamond crab and utopia lightning) were usa only promos, in europe the qli problem was much worst
Last game just normal summon scarm special graff, detach scarm and the EP search makes all your disruption is live, no need to choose 2 out of 3. That loss is on Cimo
I’m trying to master and create a very rare Flying Fortress Sky Fire deck. Now that pendulums make it liable. I got a really really good start on it, however, the only down side is it makes it to where your opponent can summon a bunch of monster on their turn but prevents them from attacking. It can’t break boards either until the the boss monster is out but even then it’s hard.
I remember seeing the absolute worst hand imaginable against towers turbo in this format. I was playing shaddoll at the time and going second against towers turbo I opened triple El shaddoll fusion and double shaddoll fusion. I think I drew a squamata for turn. I scooped and went to game 2 without revealing what I was playing
Card Rulings:Burning Abyss *The effect "If you control a monster that is not a "Burning Abyss" monster, destroy this card." is a Continuous Effect. (If you control a monster that is not a "Burning Abyss" monster during the Damage Step, this effect is still applied.) *Even if you control a monster that is not a "Burning Abyss" monster like "Tour Guide From the Underworld", you can still Normal Summon a monster like "Scarm, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss". In that case, "Scarm, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss" is destroyed by its own effect. OOPS, Cimoooooooo cheated with those Tour Guide Summons into Dante... Just par for the series I guess.
Tour Guide negates the effects of the monster it summons. This includes a BA monster's self-destruction effect. It's why the deck is so insane, because she's a 1 card XYZ that gives you a GY effect and also 3 mills. Now, if we want to talk about cheating, we can point at the fact that Alex has 2 Tour Guides in his deck, when she is supposed to be limited to 1. Because of how strong she makes BA.
I am pretty sure you had 100% mispronounced the Qliphorts incorrectly. It's normally *Klee-Forts* or some variant with *Kli*. And then the biggest issue is Apoqliphort Towers. The way you say it literally wants me to chuck my phone at the nearest wall. (A-pah-klee-fort), so it's like you are saying Apocalypse but replace "calypse" with "qliphort".
I absolutely forgot that Mind Crush's text required you to have a card in hand. Here I was thinking that the issue would be the use of the word "all" meaning that since there was a Scout in the Extra Deck it technically wouldn't be every copy.
Are we not gonna mention this version of qli was only available in Europe because of wavering eyes being a special edition card whilst the out diamond crab King was only available in America
does ba even have a singular card that outs towers. acid golem has thanks to that -500 debuf not enough atk, zenmains does not activate for the protection but the destruction is an activated effect and giga brilliant would need 2 turn to get acid golem over 3500. the only possible way i see is to deck out qli by dante cir looping to averte the towers send to grave effect to dante away from fortune tune who takes the attack of towers for 3 turn in which you draw 3 cards including the 2 level 3 you shuffle back to reset fortune tune and that only works if you make it so that qli has no longer monster in the deck that could also attack fortune tune to deplete materials faster than 1 a turn
One of my most hated decks from all of Yu-Gi-Oh. Towers was not fun to play against at all. You guys mentioned crab king but when going into it you had to worry about chalice, skill drain, emptyness or them just setting up another towers the next turn.
You should have special summoned graff and not scarm since you didn’t have fire lake. You could’ve searched during the end phase and then had the card for mind crush while still getting cir/tgu.
Cause tour guide negates the effects of the monster it summons, this includes the part of the effect that kills the BA if there's a non BA on the board.
Sooo.....jank idea for outing towers at the time could have been a generic pendulum deck that can summon Obelisk or Ra.....pretty funny since they also need 3 tributes
How did BA win against qli then? I know cimo said barbar loop into nightmare shark but that sounds so cope against a deck that can deep draw into vanity? Or even prolly side deck anti burn cards. This looks like an impossible mu.
Most decks did instantly lose to a stuck Towers. That's why it was banned. Utopia Lighting was virtually the only decent extra deck out before links. And it wasn't around yet. Towers is a completely different kind of unfun and broken than other busted stuff like Nekroz or Edrags. Which all also inevitably get annihilated by the banlist.
I'm a pure innocent soul who's never faced apoqlyphort towers. So could anyone tell me what's the difference between "activated effects from monsters" and the usual "monster effects"?
It's affected by continuous effects. For example you can't activate the send monster effects under Majesty's fiend because it's a continuous effect even though it's a lower level.
"Activated effect" means any effect that starts a chain. Think stuff like Baronne's pop or negate. If Towers was immune to all monster effects it would also be immune to continuous effects like, for example, Buster Dragon's effect to passively change its type to Dragon and the Fusion Buster Blader's effect that passively negates the effects of all Dragons.
Also, a lingering effect, or an effect that applies later than the moment it's activated, such as Mirrorjade's effect upon leaving the field, also pops Towers and other similar monsters, like Cyberdark End Dragon.
Im curious maybe ill get the answer here: Back when towers was the problem, and we in EU hadnt access to crab king a few friends and i came up with the idea to play "Share the pain". Now my question would have had that worked to let my opponent clear tower?
infernoid onuncu can out towers since its level 10. pretty funny if it happens. I guess runnning an infernoid package in decks wasn't very viable. Personally i think nekroz vs qli and all the others would be better than this and it would be a more representative for the history of yugioh. After all we already got qli vs BA before but we haven't seen nekroz vs them yet.
Please play my kozmo antitowers no back row that I used to won my regional on bogota Colombia it’s a fun deck that also played Jeff jones back that season.
I love that continuously we're playing on mr4 field in mr3
It's because DB currently uses MR5 by default.
@@zdelrod829 In earlier episodes they discovered they could switch to MR3 in duelingbook
@@zdelrod829 i believe if they played in traditional, the field would be in the old format
the emz occasionally comes up as useful, that said im suprised the pend zones havent come up
Towers was so strong Konami literally made kaijus in the next set.
Konami-let’s make an invincible boss so strong people will call bosses towers
Konami-oh shit, we fucked up…Godzilla save us!
History of Yu-Gi-Oh! episode wins
Cimoooooooo: 59
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Worth noting at this time Crab King was a NA exclusive at this time. So Europe just had to rely on dice rolls and the decks inconsistently, which stopped Tower builds dominating before falling off to just pure variants.
Satellar played zubaba General as a an out
I remember i've been playing Excalibur as an put to towers
Oh yeah 💀. Only Satellar could out Towers consistently with their 4k boosted rank 4 warrior I forgot
Giant Rat into Injection Fairy Lily was a thing we were toying around with in the UK for a bit
They also didnt have utopia the lightning
Wow I cant believe this series has made it all the way here. May 2015 was the exact month that my friends and I (re)discovered Yugioh and ive been playing it ever since.
really brings back some great memories
same for me kinda. then MR4 ruined the deck i invested in hahaha... my second return to the game was this year.
For those who are wondering wavering eyes was in the special editions of crossed souls as it was released in the next set
exactly, card came out exactly 1 week before the european WCQ
Shout out to Diamond crab king, the fact that that thing had to be played in any rank 4 deck in order to just go minus to out towers was so frustrating and you know I bit that bullet plenty of times.
Finally get to see Towers in action.
I feel like just last week we were doing DAD format, this is going by too fast. I love this series. I quit during TeleDAD format and came back around VW, Tribrigade, and Drytron format. So seeing everything I missed out on is super enjoyable I kinda wish I stuck around for some of these. I'm excited to see one of you play Blue-eyes from the world championship here soon.
Bro quit during a bad format and then came back during an arguably even worse format because half the decks were setting up unfair boards lmao
@@shrekisboss5759 you're not wrong lmao it was a die roll format for sure. VFD, Herald, and IO were classic 😂. I heard rituals were Good now and I couldn't resist. Ironically I like both of those formats more than the current shit tear/flu thing that passes for Yu-Gi-Oh. I understand the ishizu tear is skill intensive and all but I'm tired of only seeing that deck 95% of the time.
@@shrekisboss5759 The meta sucked yeah, but non meta? Soo fun. There are so many non-meta decks that actually work and are fun to play whereas back in teledad, non-meta decks actually sucked, and there weren't too many of them.
They’ll likely both be playing blue-eyes because that’s how the finals was.
@@cybzer0560 agreed, I played a lot of Gren Maju in that era and took a lot of games and sets off meta decks. Herald is strong sure, but I'll just give them a sea turtle for their troubles. Let's not forget that Invoked was still very playable, salads were okay, Dragon link and Thunder dragon were still around, it was way way more diverse than people seem to remember. Even dinosaur had teeth at the time.
It is also worth noting that, at the time, Diamond Crab King was a JUMP promo and was therefore illegal to play in EU territories, so as a result, EU players had a significantly harder time with Towers.
australians too
*Manga promo.
crab king was realeased a bit later than wavering eyes
@@Hclody95 actually, Crab King came out in February 2015 five months prior to Wavering Eyes. Crab King’s reprint came in February 2016.
The best way you could have played game 3 Cimoo is to SS the Graff and normal the scarm so that you have all three back row online and then Graff for MBT's turn
Well he did acknowledge that he goofed, seems he forgot about the hand requirement attached to Mind Crush 🤔
"What'd you bring to locals?" "Oh, Ape Akleefert turbo."
Ah this deck. Ran into it once when I got into a local scene for Yugioh with a bunch of dragons. Glad to see that we finally got to my first actual set I came into the game.
I remember watching this last year randomly while eating pumpkin pie.
Now I get to watch this with a little bit more knowledge of what the heck has been going on and good Lord man stuff is insane.
I love the fact that MBT insists on referring to Towers by its original Japanese name. 😁
I remember people chatting about Diamond Crab King being an out to Towers at the time, but of course since it was a manga promo, it wasn't legal in EU territories, meaning they had a somewhat harder time with Towers.
And thus, Towers was added to the Yugist Slang dictionary.
I can't wait for next week's intro where it goes "After the increased use of Qli during the dreaded Tier 0 Nekroz format thanks to Apoqliphort Towers there was a banlist players where waiting for...
And it did nothing."
And then it jumps into the deck profiles.
excited for this one, I always love seeing the cards that give a fan term their name
1:38 MBT's Deck: Qliphort 6:18 Cimoooo's Deck: Burning Abyss
10:40 Game 1
14:28 Game 2
25:26 Game 3
1:30 Deck List / Breakdown
11:24 Duels
Good to see that 7 years ago yugioh was still the same, flip up an old purple card with an infinity symbol and extend your hand, gg.
This was one of those weird formats where it really paid off that I am a loyal cyber dragon one trick lmao
shout out to diamond crab king, just punching towers left and right
how does crab king out towers if it loses 500 atk from towers effect?
@@seth131 It doesn't because of the way it's worded, crab king doesn't raise it's attack by 3000 but changes it to 3000 so all prior modifiers simply don't matter.
@@anvagome1 gotcha thanks
Since they mention it a lot in this series, I was surprised it took til 2017 for Emptiness to finally get banned. Why did it take that long?
can't believe they ever printed such a stupid card at all
Hey Cimo, do you think you could update your blocked words list? All these spammers say the exact same phrase and you could probably get rid of them if you filter those out.
Case in point lmao
Crab king was the herald for our true saviour: the crumbler of towers, the puncher of maidens (with eyes of blue), the one the only; the lightning
can we please see
- ba vs nekroz as was wcq format
- perfromage nekroz, perfromage shaddoll, and clowblade, as of ycs dallas 2015 (so including norden, the lists without norden were a bit jank)
- nekroz mirror match without djinn (arguably more skillfull and still super difficult)
- early kozmo lists that were breaking out would be nice
huge fan of the entire 2015 year of ygo, my locals does time wizards for october of that year. also put joseph on the kroz. ty :3
Clownblade is a sick deck though, easily one of my favorites Rank 4 spam turbo deck
MBT never failing to magically mispronounce simple puns and word play. Waiting on pins and needles for the Ape-o-cleeps to take us all!
I honestly feel as if he does it on purpose because he thinks it’s funny and just to get a rise out of people since the number right one example is Stratos being STRAYTOS
Still miffed at how Joseph pronounces “Apoqliphort”.
That's just the MBT's on-brand misspronunciation
gotta love the vanity pendulum interaction
Gotta love that Europe just didn't have an out to Towers at all given the whole thing with manga promos.
Superheavy Samurai’s we’re a natural out to Towers. With their beefy Defence being used for attacks meant that Big Ben and Susanowo were able to beat over it.
Also the fact that Cyber Dragon was naturally ran in this deck along with Star Eater made this deck the perfect anti Towers deck.
Okay, so there are a total of 19 Burning Abyss cards in Alex's main, side, and extra besides Barbar. The total max damage he could deal off of Barbar in theory is 19 * 300 which equals 5700. This means that in order to win against a turn one Towers, Alex would have to banish at least 17 of the available cards, dealing a minimum of 5100 damage, THEN attack directly with Nightmare Shark for 1500, HAVE IT LIVE FOR A TURN, and do it again. Or deck him out. Jesus Christ.
Well... don't forget that Scout burns 800 each time it's used, same for Skill Drain with 1000 and that you can still beat over some of the smaller ones to deal damage.
It is a little odd that there were 2 acid golems of destruction in the extra, feel like whoever built that deck probably thought that it outs towers which it doesn't cause of the atk reduction
I realised now, Fiend Griefing is practically Ishizu before Ishizu.
Also another although more far fetched parallel is that BA are like upgraded Fabled. Any card which works well with Fableds works even better with BA and they have added bonus on the field. That kind of "similarity" and the fact that Nekroz who slaughtered them were great as well, sort of helps me cope with the fact Fabled was never good.
And if you think about it, tearlament is basically upgraded lightsworn.
"If you do....pretty much anything. Mill the top X cards of your deck." "If this is milled, benefit"
Really bad comparison
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But Yugioh is just fine
Yea... I love cimooo and a lot of yugitibers but after looking into elestrals..... Just no
Ahhhhh he said it!!! 7:52
Can't wait until we are in the pendulum era with Jank as well.
There are so much garbage flying around in the ArcV era that is at least interesting like Train-Shaddolls
I personally however, would hope for a shoutout of the Legacy of the Worthless series, where the Machine dup-Genex combo was discovered. Which on the low end is a +3 and a +6 at the high end. Which is comparable to the the Machine Dup Quick Fix play from Spyral format
If mbt was reacting to this. He would be losing his mind about the fact they’re not playing in the MR3 layout
29:50 I'm pretty sure Rubic just gets discarded here since it couldn't special summon himself.
Can I just say that as a MtG player, seeing how Mind crush works is frustrating in that you can’t activate it if you don’t have a hand.
In MtG , effects can be activated even if nothing would come of it. You can target a player with no hand with an effect that makes them discard and it would still be a legal game action
Is nobody gonna talk about the killer situation in europe? The few outs (diamond crab and utopia lightning) were usa only promos, in europe the qli problem was much worst
A shame we didn't get dark matter rulers or hieratics. It was a nice stop gap in the nekroz format.
Last game just normal summon scarm special graff, detach scarm and the EP search makes all your disruption is live, no need to choose 2 out of 3. That loss is on Cimo
I’m trying to master and create a very rare Flying Fortress Sky Fire deck. Now that pendulums make it liable. I got a really really good start on it, however, the only down side is it makes it to where your opponent can summon a bunch of monster on their turn but prevents them from attacking. It can’t break boards either until the the boss monster is out but even then it’s hard.
Why is Cimoooo using multiple copies of Tour Guide if by now Tour Guide was at 1?
Towers turbo was always my least favorite build of Qli but I always love seeing them back.
Towers Turbo got me back into Yugioh, LOVE Qlis
This is the one I’ve been waiting for. Gosh I love Qliphort.
How in the fuck did he land on pronouncing it ay-poh-qliphort
I remember seeing the absolute worst hand imaginable against towers turbo in this format. I was playing shaddoll at the time and going second against towers turbo I opened triple El shaddoll fusion and double shaddoll fusion. I think I drew a squamata for turn. I scooped and went to game 2 without revealing what I was playing
when cimo said farfa i felt that
Card Rulings:Burning Abyss
*The effect "If you control a monster that is not a "Burning Abyss" monster, destroy this card." is a Continuous Effect. (If you control a monster that is not a "Burning Abyss" monster during the Damage Step, this effect is still applied.)
*Even if you control a monster that is not a "Burning Abyss" monster like "Tour Guide From the Underworld", you can still Normal Summon a monster like "Scarm, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss". In that case, "Scarm, Malebranche of the Burning Abyss" is destroyed by its own effect.
OOPS, Cimoooooooo cheated with those Tour Guide Summons into Dante...
Just par for the series I guess.
Tour Guide negates the effects of the monster it summons. This includes a BA monster's self-destruction effect. It's why the deck is so insane, because she's a 1 card XYZ that gives you a GY effect and also 3 mills. Now, if we want to talk about cheating, we can point at the fact that Alex has 2 Tour Guides in his deck, when she is supposed to be limited to 1. Because of how strong she makes BA.
I am pretty sure you had 100% mispronounced the Qliphorts incorrectly. It's normally *Klee-Forts* or some variant with *Kli*. And then the biggest issue is Apoqliphort Towers. The way you say it literally wants me to chuck my phone at the nearest wall.
(A-pah-klee-fort), so it's like you are saying Apocalypse but replace "calypse" with "qliphort".
this was my 2nd competitive format being played in YGOPro atm and it was by far my most top 5 hated
I absolutely forgot that Mind Crush's text required you to have a card in hand. Here I was thinking that the issue would be the use of the word "all" meaning that since there was a Scout in the Extra Deck it technically wouldn't be every copy.
It refers to any copies currently in the hand....it doesnt matter where other copies would be
Are we not gonna mention this version of qli was only available in Europe because of wavering eyes being a special edition card whilst the out diamond crab King was only available in America
does ba even have a singular card that outs towers. acid golem has thanks to that -500 debuf not enough atk, zenmains does not activate for the protection but the destruction is an activated effect and giga brilliant would need 2 turn to get acid golem over 3500.
the only possible way i see is to deck out qli by dante cir looping to averte the towers send to grave effect to dante away from fortune tune who takes the attack of towers for 3 turn in which you draw 3 cards including the 2 level 3 you shuffle back to reset fortune tune and that only works if you make it so that qli has no longer monster in the deck that could also attack fortune tune to deplete materials faster than 1 a turn
towers was so menacing, it moved konami to make v-rains and link mechanism
Finaly I was wounding when people start playing towers
Wait when did Beatrice Lady of Eternal come out for BA?
Beatrice released in March 2016; about ten months after this moment in the timeline.
we are almost where i started playing yugioh atum of 2016 wild
Fiend Griefing is also a great support for Archfiends but BA is of course much more important.
Tower was The predecesor of master piece The ultime King of The apes so. Respect.
This is the exact point that we transitioned to modern yugioh.
Love how they are using mr4 zones for pends that should
Be using mr3
Any deck playing excalibur would beat towers as well...its attack becomes 4k
You are missing episode 29 of progression series 2 I think strike of neos set is there a reason
Shoutout to Apoqliphoth Killer
One of my most hated decks from all of Yu-Gi-Oh. Towers was not fun to play against at all. You guys mentioned crab king but when going into it you had to worry about chalice, skill drain, emptyness or them just setting up another towers the next turn.
wavering eyes was out only in july 2015 btw, in may this list was not possible
Little question for an uneducated fella, in game 2, what was a possible out for towers?
You should have special summoned graff and not scarm since you didn’t have fire lake. You could’ve searched during the end phase and then had the card for mind crush while still getting cir/tgu.
22:00 Ummmmm?? Why the BA no die?!
Cause tour guide negates the effects of the monster it summons, this includes the part of the effect that kills the BA if there's a non BA on the board.
@@gram1438 Ah, I see
I remember the pain of playing b BA and having no out to towers xD
Sooo.....jank idea for outing towers at the time could have been a generic pendulum deck that can summon Obelisk or Ra.....pretty funny since they also need 3 tributes
Current format: May, 2015
The list that finally bans Vanity's Emptiness: March, 2017
"Ape-O-Klee-fort"
um.. you mean like... Apocalypse-fort, except spelled wrong?
I can't get over how he says them.
How did BA win against qli then? I know cimo said barbar loop into nightmare shark but that sounds so cope against a deck that can deep draw into vanity? Or even prolly side deck anti burn cards. This looks like an impossible mu.
Most decks did instantly lose to a stuck Towers. That's why it was banned. Utopia Lighting was virtually the only decent extra deck out before links. And it wasn't around yet. Towers is a completely different kind of unfun and broken than other busted stuff like Nekroz or Edrags. Which all also inevitably get annihilated by the banlist.
they didn't until kaijus drop in 3 months.
did anyone else vomit at MBT pronunciation at 2:10
I would LOVE to see Ultra Athlete in the next episode regardless.
I'm a pure innocent soul who's never faced apoqlyphort towers. So could anyone tell me what's the difference between "activated effects from monsters" and the usual "monster effects"?
It's affected by continuous effects. For example you can't activate the send monster effects under Majesty's fiend because it's a continuous effect even though it's a lower level.
@@supercrazy843 ahhhhhhhhh. That makes a lot of sense tyvm
"Activated effect" means any effect that starts a chain. Think stuff like Baronne's pop or negate. If Towers was immune to all monster effects it would also be immune to continuous effects like, for example, Buster Dragon's effect to passively change its type to Dragon and the Fusion Buster Blader's effect that passively negates the effects of all Dragons.
Also, a lingering effect, or an effect that applies later than the moment it's activated, such as Mirrorjade's effect upon leaving the field, also pops Towers and other similar monsters, like Cyberdark End Dragon.
Destiny HERO Plasma has a Skill Drain-like continuous effect. Because of that, it could actually negate Towers and succ it.
Im curious maybe ill get the answer here: Back when towers was the problem, and we in EU hadnt access to crab king a few friends and i came up with the idea to play "Share the pain". Now my question would have had that worked to let my opponent clear tower?
Yes, share the pain is a towers out...
Share the Pain will out Towers, but it only works if Towers is the only monster your opponent controls.
Should work because it isn't affecting towers, it's making the player perform a game mechanic. It's a weird card.
Ape Uh Qli Fort Towers.
How does cimo have 2 tour guide? Isn't it limited?
Yep. Went to 1 the same lost Skill Drain and Emptiness did.
When do we get to PePe?
I swear scout was limited at the time
ape uh qliphort
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Man towers is so cool
oh boy i cant wait for mb or cimo to blow ass at this deck
infernoid onuncu can out towers since its level 10. pretty funny if it happens. I guess runnning an infernoid package in decks wasn't very viable.
Personally i think nekroz vs qli and all the others would be better than this and it would be a more representative for the history of yugioh. After all we already got qli vs BA before but we haven't seen nekroz vs them yet.
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11:48 first play.
Great vid
did no one play skybase? seems like a good card too
Can someone explain why cimo would keep karma cut against qli?
For stealth I guess
Please play my kozmo antitowers no back row that I used to won my regional on bogota Colombia it’s a fun deck that also played Jeff jones back that season.
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cant wait for yangzing metalfoe