OMGOSH! I love that idea! I may need to film that one this week! As soon as I saw your comment I had to click! Thanks for the idea. Oh and btw...I've big chopped 3 to 4 times. Not sure if I will start back over but I'm thinking about going to get some shape or even get bangs. Not sure though.
definitely trying these. I've retained length with my hair but its not healthy at all!!!! I must pay attention to my moisture. I'm high porosity, I know what my hair love but I need to get other products as well
You got me Loving Curl friend smoothie!!! It's way better for my hair then Oyin Hair Dewey (Another Great one) because my Love Aloe, marshal mallow root &slippery elm. I have mine in the tub..
Awww thanks so much! I would avoid coconut oil or wheat proteins. I can’t think of one at the moment. I have thought of making best products that DON’T CONTAIN COCONUT OIL
yeah, I just also learned that castor oil is a protein. Glad to know why my hair has been falling out. I'm avoiding all protein now and just looking for moisture.
I am so glad I have found your page. After watching countless videos, I had yet to find someone with my similar hair texture. There are many videos for those with 3B & 4C curl pattern low & high porosity but I was stuck in the middle and you are the first I've seen with 3C/4A high porosity like me. I am definitely going to try the Camille Rose since we're heading into cooler weather. I shampoo and "try" to deep condition once a week but I rinse and go (with products ) every morning. I've tried pineappling at night but because I have looser curls in front & back those curls get too straight and if I don't, I get crazy smooshed bed head in my crown. Do you have to rinse your hair everyday then apply more products and if not how do you preserve your wash and go? P.S. Sorry for such a long comment.
+Mia Hilliard hey doll! Glad you found my channel! Moisture And seal. No I don't rinse every night. I convert my wash and go to a twist out after the 2 or 3rd day. I use a silk pillowcase. That helps soooo much! Hope that helps!
Can you please do a Favs combo of leave-ins and stylers for W&G, finger coils, twist outs & etc? I have the Curl Junkie and the Curlaide Moisture Butter. How do use the two in combination with other products?
For sure! It's on the list to do right after my TOP 5 series. Thanks so much for the reminder. Oh and in regards to your last question, I use the Curl Junkie as the leave in and the moisture butter as the cream styler. I find that it has great hold for my twist outs and braid outs.
Melissa, if you har to recommend a particular hair product line for high porosity hair what would it be? I don't really live to mix product lines because I don't know how my hair will react,
Hi me again I hav even leaving comments all over. When it comes to butter such as the Camille rose you mentioned I don’t have to seal it with an oil ? Also this is considered a leave in and not a cream styler? Which means I would use this one product only for my loc ? Sorry for all the questions I am trying to rescue my daughters hair and retain moisture.
No problem! Keep the comments and questions coming! 😘 I love hearing from you. So I use Almond Jai as a leave in and after it dries and I can used it as a styler as well. If you want to use it as a styler then you can use a different Leave in that is super moisturizing.
I'm going to have to try that Darcy Botanicals. Ive been transitioning for 10 months now (texlaxing for 3 years prior to that) and I'm almost out of my elucence moisture balancing conditioner which I love (but it's always out of stock) so maybe I'll try your suggestion next......thanks for the recommendations:)
OMG that conditioner is AMAZZZING! Where you try to get it? CurlMart.Com? Hmm the consistencies are different but both are good. Eluence is super cheap though! I need to get my hands on that for real! Thanks for mentioning it! xoxo
Yasssss!!! I love it. I first learned of it from I believe Ashkins Curls. I have a lot of hair thats always dry and tangles easily but this conditioner no matter how I use it instantly makes my hair better. I usually get it on curl mart.com when they have a sale......however I checked last night and it was back in stock both their and on Amazon so I grabbed it at full price just so I have some in my stash bc if they ever discontinued it I just might cry. I still want to try the Darcy Botanicals though bc I need to be able to rotate my products. My hair gets used to products real fast.
Awesome! Oh remember to use ebates.com when purchasing from Amazon! At least you can get some cashback :) That's so true about your hair getting use to a product. I love rotating my hair products.
Is it possible to be protein sensitive when you have high porosity hair? Everyone has been saying protien is a life saver for high porosity but I've tried putting egg and other protien treatments and my hair becomes so dry and stiff...any suggestion?
+CurlyMe i always follow the protein treatment with a conditioning treatment to soften the hair again. Protein strengthens the hair but needs moisture out back in
CurlyMe I wish I had a recommendation for you. I am in the same boat. I believe I am HP because my hair dries soooo quickly. It is extremely dry. It hates, coconut, aloe Vera and protein. What gives 😩
I "think" I'm high porosity but what are some characteristics? I have fine, curly hair that stays dry...hunty I can't oil the hair enough but let me wet it and put a great leave in with slip...MY CURLS POP!! Oh...tried the water test...my strands stayed up top even after dunking!!😳
Does your hair go immediately wet? When I get into the shower it goes wet immediate. My hair is completely dry and dries quickly out of the shower. It breaks very easily.
@@MelissaQ everything you mentioned!!😔 Plus...I contracted covid in Jan22 and had NO IDEA about "covid shedding"...it's REAL!!! I HATE to comb my hair cause it just comes out!😳😫 Heard and read that it has to go through its' cycle but will grow back. Since it's 3 phases to the growth cycle, covid affects those in the third cycle (those ready to shed--just makes it shed before it's ready). No one (even doctors) offer solutions because it just has to taper off. With that being said, I used tge SheaMoisture Strengthen & Restore Treatment Masque and put in 2 strand twists TODAY. I'm 🙏 it'll help with the dryness--the curls did pop afterward and I did do a prepoo but even more fragile now..strands on my hands and fingers while putting the masque on my hair....🙄..so frustrating. THANKS FOR READING!!!
@@MelissaQ yep...not many know and it can occur anywhere from 2-6 months AFTER you're well...mine was 3 months. (Much reading out there on it; the star Alyssa Milano was interviewed cause she is experiencing really badly--was on ET I think)...take care and love your videos!!
Sabrina Pickett I knew someone was going to catch it! It's an honorable mention in the description box. I know you all might get tired of talking about Smooth Naturals so mentioned the other 5 BUT the other one is in the description box!
Hey girlie! I do plan on doing a video with Coconut Free products! I think some of these do but I did a washngo Coconut Free Routine... it's in my MANEtanence Monday series. let me find it and get back to you.
Kinky Curly Knot Today, Giovanni leave-in, and my newest favorite is Shea Moisture Superfruit Leave-in/rinse-out conditioner. I rarely apply any of them full strength, usually i mix with water or scrunch them in the shower (squish to condish method)
idk if I'm low or high. what do I do to find out. ive been natural for 2 years and still cant find some products that I love. my hair is dry but I keep it moisturized so that it wont be dry. and my scalp is reallyyy itchy ughhh....helpppp mee
Jademarshall32 when you turn on your the water directly on your hair, does it come wet immediately or does it require the water to run for a while before getting wet or does it the water bead up on your hair? If it becomes wet you are high, if it beads and takes a while you're low.
Jademarshall32 Your hair sounds like mine......drier than a darn desert in July😂😂 This new saying is that we're "High Porosity"😞 Whatever Honey Bunny.......Just use Leave In Conditioner, Oil,Oil,Oil & More Oil......Yes Daily then maybe after 2 weeks or so you can oil your hair every other day.......But yes our hair is Always Thirsty,Always Find The Products that work best for you........I personally like Black Castor Oil! All The Best With Your Natural Hair 😊 Blessings😇
Of course! I got it from the Curl Junkie website. However, please wait for their semi annual sale. Sign up for the newsletter and wait for for the sale that they have near Easter.
Thanks for this video, I'm looking for some extra help anyone please My hair had always looked dry and I kept using moisturising products on it like argon oil etc, which kinda worked but then I discovered kpac and with one use my hair looked so silky and good. So now I was hooked using the leave in, shampoo and conditioner and after making my hair look better all of a sudden it's looking suuuuuper dry again! And I'm getting random hairs (loads) that have a kinky bumpy texture which I've not had before 😭 Have I over proteined?! Is the texture porosity? Please advice me if you can X
protein overload can happen. I moisturize everytime I wash my hair to prevent that but I also have to watch protein overload on top of my hair already being dry. Is your hair knotting?
Thank you for your reply :) Yes, it's suddenly looking frazzled and split at the ends and is sooo much more tangled than usual. Since I discovered protein products I let my moisturising ones fall aside since it looked like the protein ones were working so much better then this! I'm really confused about it since I'm new to letting my hair naturally curly instead of straightening it out so I thought it would look healthier!
Hi, I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOO SOO HELPFUL, AND INFORMATIVE, I BECAME HI POROSITY DUE TO WASH, AND GO'S, AND MY HAIR DOES NOT. I REPEAT DOES NOT LIKE COCONUT OIL!!!!!!!!! YEAH I RUN FROM THIS OIL IT IS PROTEIN OVER LOAD FOR SURE, AND THE FACT THAT YOU WERE MINDFUL OF THAT IN THIS VIDEO WAS SO GREAT PLZ DO A VIDEO ABOUT NON COCONUT PRODUCTS FOR HIGH POROSITY HAIR ESPECIALLY HAIR BUTTERS IT'S BEEN HARD TO FIND A GOOD HAIR BUTTER FOR HIGH POROSITY HAIR. THANKS FOR THE VIDEOS, AS I'M SURE YOU CAN TELL, I AM NEW TO YOUR CHANNEL, AND I HAVE SUBSCRIBED!!!!!!!!!!
Finally! A high porosity hair video! Thank you 🙌
There are more!!!
What should be the next category?! LIGHT LEAVE INs for HIGH VOLUME, CREAM STYLERS, GEL STYLERS, OILS, BUTTERS?
Cream Stylers with A LOT of hold
Cream stylers please!
MelissaQ I would love to see videos for relaxed straight hair: moisturizing deep conditioners & leave ins to keep hair light & flowing.
MelissaQ Please do butters! My hair is soooo dry and crunchy!
Is their a high porosity hair care challenge? I'd love to join.
I would like to hear more about the difference between moisture and protein overload.
Will do love! Let me get through these Top 5 and then we will chat! xo
Thank you so much. I truly needed help with my High porosity hair. You are amazing! Thanks
Have you tried As I Am Leave in? My HP hair loves it. I'll try one of these too
Does it have glycerin in it? I thought I have tried it but it’s been so long
@@MelissaQ I don't know but my hair soaks it up and curls nicely.
Im thinking of cutting my hair AGAIN 😩 But I may have moisture overload or protein overload. Im not sure of the difference🤔. I would love that video 😁
OMGOSH! I love that idea! I may need to film that one this week! As soon as I saw your comment I had to click! Thanks for the idea. Oh and btw...I've big chopped 3 to 4 times. Not sure if I will start back over but I'm thinking about going to get some shape or even get bangs. Not sure though.
Omg girl you make me laugh! I love your passion and humour!! and I love your picks!! I have a few I want now
Thanks so much!!! So glad I could make your day!
Ive been natural since 98 but Ive never tried any of these leave ins! I may try one or 2 out! THANKS!
+metrini oh cool! Love when I try something new and fall in love!
definitely trying these. I've retained length with my hair but its not healthy at all!!!! I must pay attention to my moisture. I'm high porosity, I know what my hair love but I need to get other products as well
Preach! I love the tips! I haven't heard of these products. Love you beautiful!
Your makeup 😍😍. Great video love, you definitely know your stuff 👍👍
Thanks doll! Tutorial coming from our Fav Palette! Yay!!!!
You got me Loving Curl friend smoothie!!! It's way better for my hair then Oyin Hair Dewey (Another Great one) because my Love Aloe, marshal mallow root &slippery elm. I have mine in the tub..
+mymiracle79 👋🏼 yesssss
It's so worth the money!
Hey girl, love your channel. I'm high porosity but protein sensitive. What do you recommend for a leave in conditioner?
Awww thanks so much! I would avoid coconut oil or wheat proteins. I can’t think of one at the moment. I have thought of making best products that DON’T CONTAIN COCONUT OIL
yeah, I just also learned that castor oil is a protein. Glad to know why my hair has been falling out. I'm avoiding all protein now and just looking for moisture.
yes im a low porosity girl, glad you said that, you are the bomb, makeup is popin as always appreciate appreciate everything, god bless.👍👍💯💯😀😀💓💓
Yassssssss queen. I need to try some of these. Definitely high porosity over here😉 TFS beautiful 🤗
S/O to the high porosity squad! xo
Indeed lovebug👊💗👊
I am so glad I have found your page. After watching countless videos, I had yet to find someone with my similar hair texture. There are many videos for those with 3B & 4C curl pattern low & high porosity but I was stuck in the middle and you are the first I've seen with 3C/4A high porosity like me. I am definitely going to try the Camille Rose since we're heading into cooler weather. I shampoo and "try" to deep condition once a week but I rinse and go (with products ) every morning. I've tried pineappling at night but because I have looser curls in front & back those curls get too straight and if I don't, I get crazy smooshed bed head in my crown. Do you have to rinse your hair everyday then apply more products and if not how do you preserve your wash and go?
P.S. Sorry for such a long comment.
+Mia Hilliard hey doll! Glad you found my channel! Moisture And seal. No I don't rinse every night. I convert my wash and go to a twist out after the 2 or 3rd day. I use a silk pillowcase. That helps soooo much! Hope that helps!
Can you please do a Favs combo of leave-ins and stylers for W&G, finger coils, twist outs & etc? I have the Curl Junkie and the Curlaide Moisture Butter. How do use the two in combination with other products?
For sure! It's on the list to do right after my TOP 5 series. Thanks so much for the reminder. Oh and in regards to your last question, I use the Curl Junkie as the leave in and the moisture butter as the cream styler. I find that it has great hold for my twist outs and braid outs.
Melissa, if you har to recommend a particular hair product line for high porosity hair what would it be? I don't really live to mix product lines because I don't know how my hair will react,
Brenda Smith Smooth naturals or Camille rose naturals
Hi me again I hav even leaving comments all over. When it comes to butter such as the Camille rose you mentioned I don’t have to seal it with an oil ? Also this is considered a leave in and not a cream styler? Which means I would use this one product only for my loc ? Sorry for all the questions I am trying to rescue my daughters hair and retain moisture.
No problem! Keep the comments and questions coming! 😘 I love hearing from you. So I use Almond Jai as a leave in and after it dries and I can used it as a styler as well. If you want to use it as a styler then you can use a different Leave in that is super moisturizing.
MelissaQ thank you that makes sense. When I use it as a leave in do I still need to apply oil after ?
How do you use the Curl Friend smoothie? My daughter has extremely dry hair and it doesn't do well with a lot of coconut oil based products.
+ tab2go I use it as a leave in and sometimes moisturizer. My hair love it!
mymiracle79 good to know. I'm going to buy it and try
I'm going to have to try that Darcy Botanicals. Ive been transitioning for 10 months now (texlaxing for 3 years prior to that) and I'm almost out of my elucence moisture balancing conditioner which I love (but it's always out of stock) so maybe I'll try your suggestion next......thanks for the recommendations:)
OMG that conditioner is AMAZZZING! Where you try to get it? CurlMart.Com? Hmm the consistencies are different but both are good. Eluence is super cheap though! I need to get my hands on that for real! Thanks for mentioning it! xoxo
Yasssss!!! I love it. I first learned of it from I believe Ashkins Curls. I have a lot of hair thats always dry and tangles easily but this conditioner no matter how I use it instantly makes my hair better. I usually get it on curl mart.com when they have a sale......however I checked last night and it was back in stock both their and on Amazon so I grabbed it at full price just so I have some in my stash bc if they ever discontinued it I just might cry. I still want to try the Darcy Botanicals though bc I need to be able to rotate my products. My hair gets used to products real fast.
Awesome! Oh remember to use ebates.com when purchasing from Amazon! At least you can get some cashback :) That's so true about your hair getting use to a product. I love rotating my hair products.
Hi I'm transitioing where can I buy the Sweet Coco cream from
Shea Moisture Jamaican Black Castor Oil Leave in! For a braid or twist out!
Yasssss! I need to try that!
I agree this one is awesome and is so light weight!
I love that! I have not tried the products Melissa mentioned to compare, but I will (when I can budget buying more hair care :) )
Yay!!!! You know I wanted this!!!!!!! Thank you!!!!
+Claudia Davis yessss! Nothing like a great leave in!
Is it possible to be protein sensitive when you have high porosity hair? Everyone has been saying protien is a life saver for high porosity but I've tried putting egg and other protien treatments and my hair becomes so dry and stiff...any suggestion?
+CurlyMe i always follow the protein treatment with a conditioning treatment to soften the hair again. Protein strengthens the hair but needs moisture out back in
Thanks for the advice!
Same question. What deep moisturizing conditioners do you recommend following a protein treatment?
CurlyMe I wish I had a recommendation for you. I am in the same boat. I believe I am HP because my hair dries soooo quickly. It is extremely dry. It hates, coconut, aloe Vera and protein. What gives 😩
The great thing is that your starting point is what your hair hates. That’s totally the start as to what it will love
I "think" I'm high porosity but what are some characteristics? I have fine, curly hair that stays dry...hunty I can't oil the hair enough but let me wet it and put a great leave in with slip...MY CURLS POP!! Oh...tried the water test...my strands stayed up top even after dunking!!😳
Does your hair go immediately wet? When I get into the shower it goes wet immediate. My hair is completely dry and dries quickly out of the shower. It breaks very easily.
@@MelissaQ everything you mentioned!!😔 Plus...I contracted covid in Jan22 and had NO IDEA about "covid shedding"...it's REAL!!! I HATE to comb my hair cause it just comes out!😳😫 Heard and read that it has to go through its' cycle but will grow back. Since it's 3 phases to the growth cycle, covid affects those in the third cycle (those ready to shed--just makes it shed before it's ready). No one (even doctors) offer solutions because it just has to taper off. With that being said, I used tge SheaMoisture Strengthen & Restore Treatment Masque and put in 2 strand twists TODAY. I'm 🙏 it'll help with the dryness--the curls did pop afterward and I did do a prepoo but even more fragile now..strands on my hands and fingers while putting the masque on my hair....🙄..so frustrating. THANKS FOR READING!!!
Oh wow! Had no idea of Covid hair loss! Thanks for sharing! I’m sure I wasn’t the only ☝🏾.
@@MelissaQ yep...not many know and it can occur anywhere from 2-6 months AFTER you're well...mine was 3 months. (Much reading out there on it; the star Alyssa Milano was interviewed cause she is experiencing really badly--was on ET I think)...take care and love your videos!!
I will try to look her up and check it out! Awww thanks so much!
Where can I buy any of these? I'm interested
Entered the links in the description bar! xoxo
Even though I'm HP, I can't handle putting a lot of protein laden products in my hair.
I agree! What protein does your hair love and hate?
I was looking for you to say Smooth Naturals my new love ❤️ bc it was in your thumbnail picture
Sabrina Pickett I knew someone was going to catch it! It's an honorable mention in the description box. I know you all might get tired of talking about Smooth Naturals so mentioned the other 5 BUT the other one is in the description box!
New subbie, found you from Samantha march's video:)
Does any of the ingredients have coconut oil? I am allergic to coconut. I am high porosity gal.
Hey girlie! I do plan on doing a video with Coconut Free products! I think some of these do but I did a washngo Coconut Free Routine... it's in my MANEtanence Monday series. let me find it and get back to you.
fine ,,,high porosity,,3a,,3b hair. leave ins for us ladies..😋 cream style types are too heavy for my hair.
Kinky Curly Knot Today, Giovanni leave-in, and my newest favorite is Shea Moisture Superfruit Leave-in/rinse-out conditioner. I rarely apply any of them full strength, usually i mix with water or scrunch them in the shower (squish to condish method)
I love your channel 💕✨
Melisa De Los Santos Hernández thank you beauty! 💋
+ Melisa De Los Santos Hernández I 2nd that emotion!!
idk if I'm low or high. what do I do to find out. ive been natural for 2 years and still cant find some products that I love. my hair is dry but I keep it moisturized so that it wont be dry. and my scalp is reallyyy itchy ughhh....helpppp mee
Jademarshall32 when you turn on your the water directly on your hair, does it come wet immediately or does it require the water to run for a while before getting wet or does it the water bead up on your hair? If it becomes wet you are high, if it beads and takes a while you're low.
Jademarshall32
Your hair sounds like mine......drier than a darn desert in July😂😂
This new saying is that we're "High Porosity"😞
Whatever Honey Bunny.......Just use Leave In Conditioner, Oil,Oil,Oil & More Oil......Yes Daily then maybe after 2 weeks or so you can oil your hair every other day.......But yes our hair is Always Thirsty,Always
Find The Products that work best for you........I personally like Black Castor Oil!
All The Best With Your Natural Hair 😊
Blessings😇
i know for a fact i have high porosity hair but my hair holds too much moisture. it's spongy when i wet it and it doesn't hold protein.
What do you exactly mean with transitioning?
Transitioning is a process from growing out a relaxer to becoming natural
May I️ ask where did u purchase the 32 ounce of the curl junky conditioner?
Of course! I got it from the Curl Junkie website. However, please wait for their semi annual sale. Sign up for the newsletter and wait for for the sale that they have near Easter.
I’m on the curl junky website now but it only shows 8 oz
Okay. Let me go check other places as well. Maybe they stop making it?
Ok but I’m in a fix with my hair now and am in need of some serious help😢
Oh no! I hope I can help! It’s on the curl Junkie website under Treatments... scroll all the way down to see the 32oz
omg you did the request thanks boo
+Alesha Zeigler of course love! I'm here for the curls and girls!
thank you baby . your killing it
Great video!
+Nancy Webb thanks beautiful!
Thanks for this video, I'm looking for some extra help anyone please
My hair had always looked dry and I kept using moisturising products on it like argon oil etc, which kinda worked but then I discovered kpac and with one use my hair looked so silky and good.
So now I was hooked using the leave in, shampoo and conditioner and after making my hair look better all of a sudden it's looking suuuuuper dry again! And I'm getting random hairs (loads) that have a kinky bumpy texture which I've not had before 😭
Have I over proteined?!
Is the texture porosity?
Please advice me if you can
X
protein overload can happen. I moisturize everytime I wash my hair to prevent that but I also have to watch protein overload on top of my hair already being dry. Is your hair knotting?
Thank you for your reply :)
Yes, it's suddenly looking frazzled and split at the ends and is sooo much more tangled than usual.
Since I discovered protein products I let my moisturising ones fall aside since it looked like the protein ones were working so much better then this!
I'm really confused about it since I'm new to letting my hair naturally curly instead of straightening it out so I thought it would look healthier!
Oh my, I really agree with you. Please let me know if MelissaQ gives you an answer on this! Thanks for posting!.
I have low porosity hair
Some of these have worked for my low porosity friends as well.
I love the coco cream from Darcy leaves my natural hair soft and I use it to moisturize ,flat iron no blow dry needed ,and it lays my edges too
nastasha nastasha oh I will need to try that!
Haha you like that sweet stuff. Good recs, thanks.
Hey Melissa! Love Curl Rehab, Darcy’s Cocoa Bean, great video! ❤️
Yasss girl aren’t they the best! Thanks so much!
Yasss girl aren’t they the best! Thanks so much!
Do You Jus Use A Leave In ?
Vanessa Darrough no these are just my faves in the category. I use the LOC method
Hi, I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOO SOO HELPFUL, AND INFORMATIVE, I BECAME HI POROSITY DUE TO WASH, AND GO'S, AND MY HAIR DOES NOT. I REPEAT DOES NOT LIKE COCONUT OIL!!!!!!!!! YEAH I RUN FROM THIS OIL IT IS PROTEIN OVER LOAD FOR SURE, AND THE FACT THAT YOU WERE MINDFUL OF THAT IN THIS VIDEO WAS SO GREAT PLZ DO A VIDEO ABOUT NON COCONUT PRODUCTS FOR HIGH POROSITY HAIR ESPECIALLY HAIR BUTTERS IT'S BEEN HARD TO FIND A GOOD HAIR BUTTER FOR HIGH POROSITY HAIR. THANKS FOR THE VIDEOS, AS I'M SURE YOU CAN TELL, I AM NEW TO YOUR CHANNEL, AND I HAVE SUBSCRIBED!!!!!!!!!!
+Tonia Ss awwww thanks so much! Thank you for letting me know that! You just gave me an awesome idea 💡
GREAT!!!!
You need to have Drakes song as an intro for these top 5 videos when he says "top 5, top 5, top 5". Lol
+misshan06 hey hey hey! Lol thanks so much for the great idea!
What is your favorite summer leave-in?
+123SUTANA i keep going back to the curlfriend smoothie and just recently the bekura Tonga mousse
Thanks for replying. I just order the curlfriend smoothie!. What styler do you use with it?
+123SUTANA smooth naturals hair perfection, the whip, Almond Jai twist butter
Thanks 2017