Seeing jmook play reminds me of when we first saw Zain upset Leffen. Oh man I hope this guy somehow makes it up there, that would be so sick for the melee timeline.
You're never ready for HGOD unless you train specifically for him. He's not like any other top player. Zain hasn't lost to HGOD with his marth in years, but he still labs against puff because he knows this will happen if he doesn't
Well well well what do we have here? Hbox has been doing well so far this year getting 3rd at almost every event but has not made it to winners side grands until now. Mango has said recently that he believes that he himself has a higher chance of winning a tournament than Hbox even though he did not make top 8 until this tournament. Well look at Hbox now Mango he just won GOML with Jmook beating zain in losers its looking like an easy win for the HGOD!
Btw Toph, move staling does NOT affect knockback in Melee, the formula for knockback takes the move's damage before staling. In Brawl and onwards however, staling does matter.
It does affect knockback. If you look at the formula, it is true that the variable d is equal to damage dealt by the move without counting staleness, but the variable p is equal to the percent that the target is at *after the hit*. Thus, if a move deals less damage due to being stale, and the target is at a lower percentage after the hit because of that, staling does indeed reduce knockback.
Btw if you want to test and see, go fully stale Fox upsmash on Bowser in training mode on FD and hit him with one at 99%. It won't kill, but then if you SD to clear your stale queue, upsmash will kill Bowser as low as 92%.
@@SSB_Seal Yea you are 100% correct. You can also feel this in matches, if you use bair over and over again, at some point it doesn't even knock the opponent down
2:17 yeah that’s why the call it Hbox DI lol 2:50 oh man seeing such a crowd still on 2022 watching a nearly 22 year old game on tournament live present is just,man people really like this game huh. Respect👽 5:325:44 yeah I’m beginning to see the crowd bias… 6:19 LMFAOOOOOOOO. It didn’t kill but that was awesome haha 8:56 lmao get low profiled 10:51 hbox pop off mkay 6/10 could’ve been better.Lol 13:49 Ah gottem GGs
Not a fan of these mid-set popoffs by Hbox. As a longtime competitor and TO, it feels extremely unsportsmanlike and a form of psychological warfare that shouldn't be allowed. I'm all down for a crazy popoff afterwards for the crowd but doing so mid-set seems very out of line.
@@kelp7060 you're acting like a common and accurate expression is outlandish, all I'm saying is to stay civil during games and keep the aggression in the game. Just be professional and respectful and save the popoff for after. If you want crazy and outlandish claims go watch evidence.zip 2
Smash bros ultimate is dead 💀 Smash bros melee will be for ever Because hb use trash character but he are god I want to see mk leo win cups with trash characters he never doit
Puff is the best character in the game, HBox makes it look like that isn't the case with bad DI, no tech skill and failure to lab basic stuff (only now doing tech chase rests and CC rests)
Holding down has been popular for many years. In this specific matchup it's extremely strong to do so, which is part of the reason Plup switched to Fox in the matchup.
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I can't believe seen Hbox on winner's side of grands, it's been so long...
Well...
@The7thLevel-- our*
cause he dodged Zain
This feels like comparable to modern sports with the helpful amount of UI on screen. Genuienly grab job whoever is running stream
The grabbiest of jobs
Seeing jmook play reminds me of when we first saw Zain upset Leffen. Oh man I hope this guy somehow makes it up there, that would be so sick for the melee timeline.
And the shiek representation is so good 😍
That last rest was filthy, GGs to Jmook, cleanest Sheik out there
Don't sleep on HBox or he'll sleep on you!
You're never ready for HGOD unless you train specifically for him. He's not like any other top player. Zain hasn't lost to HGOD with his marth in years, but he still labs against puff because he knows this will happen if he doesn't
Well well well what do we have here? Hbox has been doing well so far this year getting 3rd at almost every event but has not made it to winners side grands until now. Mango has said recently that he believes that he himself has a higher chance of winning a tournament than Hbox even though he did not make top 8 until this tournament. Well look at Hbox now Mango he just won GOML with Jmook beating zain in losers its looking like an easy win for the HGOD!
Mango loves talking shit but now he’s just a drunk and washed has been turned nobody content creator
Bruh go outside
@@Saeohh just did actually had a nice iced coffee after a walk taking a break from work thanks for checking in!
@@Saeohh outside rn watching this
I like Hbox too but does it ever feel maybe a bit obsessive tracking every placement, calling him a god, and naming your account after him?
Btw Toph, move staling does NOT affect knockback in Melee, the formula for knockback takes the move's damage before staling. In Brawl and onwards however, staling does matter.
Holy crap are you sure?
@@V.Hansen yeah i doublechecked before making this comment to see if i was wrong
It does affect knockback. If you look at the formula, it is true that the variable d is equal to damage dealt by the move without counting staleness, but the variable p is equal to the percent that the target is at *after the hit*. Thus, if a move deals less damage due to being stale, and the target is at a lower percentage after the hit because of that, staling does indeed reduce knockback.
Btw if you want to test and see, go fully stale Fox upsmash on Bowser in training mode on FD and hit him with one at 99%. It won't kill, but then if you SD to clear your stale queue, upsmash will kill Bowser as low as 92%.
@@SSB_Seal Yea you are 100% correct. You can also feel this in matches, if you use bair over and over again, at some point it doesn't even knock the opponent down
Yooo mid 2022 Hbox melee puff let’s go?
2:17 yeah that’s why the call it Hbox DI lol
2:50 oh man seeing such a crowd still on 2022 watching a nearly 22 year old game on tournament live present is just,man people really like this game huh. Respect👽
5:32 5:44 yeah I’m beginning to see the crowd bias…
6:19 LMFAOOOOOOOO. It didn’t kill but that was awesome haha
8:56 lmao get low profiled
10:51 hbox pop off mkay 6/10 could’ve been better.Lol
13:49 Ah gottem GGs
How is the track at 14:10 called?
Is this toph commentating?
Where's muh pop off!?!?
Jmook insane but hbox is just locked in 😤
Not a fan of these mid-set popoffs by Hbox. As a longtime competitor and TO, it feels extremely unsportsmanlike and a form of psychological warfare that shouldn't be allowed. I'm all down for a crazy popoff afterwards for the crowd but doing so mid-set seems very out of line.
psychological warfare, huh. The things I find in the comments.
@@kelp7060 you're acting like a common and accurate expression is outlandish, all I'm saying is to stay civil during games and keep the aggression in the game. Just be professional and respectful and save the popoff for after.
If you want crazy and outlandish claims go watch evidence.zip 2
So basically for the matchup to be even puff has to have awful combo and survival DI and miss a rest and it's a close game.
Hungrybox!!
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO!!!!!!! Hbox!!!!!
Smash bros ultimate is dead 💀
Smash bros melee will be for ever
Because hb use trash character but he are god
I want to see mk leo win cups with trash characters he never doit
Puff is the best character in the game, HBox makes it look like that isn't the case with bad DI, no tech skill and failure to lab basic stuff (only now doing tech chase rests and CC rests)
@@ottomann4846 "puff is the best character in the game"
Fox main detected
@@BlueRiging might want to fix your detection system. I don't play anymore, but when I did I mained doc.
I feel bad for hbox..
why tho?
Don’t feel bad for him. He’s doing pretty damn well 😆
For almost getting groped by idbw? Yeah same
Imagine the smell in that room.
LOOOOOL
Wow, melee sure has become degenerate. I watched a whole set of two people holding down to punish being hit the entire time.
Degenerate🤓
Holding down has been popular for many years. In this specific matchup it's extremely strong to do so, which is part of the reason Plup switched to Fox in the matchup.
that's called 20 years of counterplay