Miya with 24 Major Wins [same amount as Leo] not top 10 behind dabuz unlucky. Ig he needs to win another 20 Majors to be Top 10. Otherwise good Video i enjoyed
@@Jajazstdhd It’s mostly due to Miya’s success being more in the short term compared to someone like Dabuz. Miya only started being top-10 ranked during the second half of 2023, so even though it might feel like he’s been around for a while, he hasn’t really had the time to show the same longevity. Additionally, Miya hasn’t demonstrated the consistency that someone like MKLeo had in his prime. For instance, Miya had placements like 17th at Genesis with losses to players he arguably shouldn’t be losing to, like Zackray and Raflow, and even a 49th place at 篝火#9, losing to players outside the top 20 at the time, such as Jagaimo and SRIKS. For Miya to be considered top 10 of all time, he would likely need to maintain a top-10 rank for a longer period and gain more consistency. However, I understand how recency bias might make it feel like Miya has had a more impressive career than some of these players.
the thing is no one actually cares for miya, he doesnt make youtube videos, he doesnt stream he doesnt go to podcasts Id argue maister is above miya in terms of goat status because maister actually contributes to the comunity miya plays soley to win he shows no personality neither in the way he plays or as a person he doesnt care about the comunity like any other player on this list
@@MohammedssbuW vid btw ur ideas r rlly good. About Miya i understand ur point but honestly I feel like being the player tied with most major wins (24) is just too impressive to ignore, also this aint a massive difference but Miya was winning majors since 2022 and was top 4 since the first half of 2023. Other than that W list
I think that if Marss doesn't make the list he deserve at the very least an HM, dude was TOP 5/3 at his prime and tbh is not like he is washed now he is just not as good as he used to be but hella underrated because he does not attend many tournaments, he can still place TOP 8s at majors and beat Miya the seed 1 of the biggest tournament of the year
@@Ryng98 fs. If I did an HM it would be Marss, Samsora, Zackray, Miya,and Sonix. Marss is my favorite player so it was hard excluding him from5 the list.
I really like your video!! Good idea and editing! I really disagree with Dabuz being over people like Miya, or Sonix but specially Miya. I know it’s an all-time list, but that doesn’t mean you automatically make the top10 because you started playing since day 1. In the 4 years and a half of ultimate’s lifespan Miya has won majors and placed top-4 consistently since half of 2022. I really don’t get how he didn’t make the list.
@@javiersfg7 thanks for enjoying! I put Dabuz above Miya for a couple reasons but the longevity is a big part of it, however even in the year you mentioned 2022 Dabuz was ranked above Miya in both the first and second half of the year so I just think Miya would have to be successful maybe a year longer to compare to Dabuz’s 6 years of success in ultimate but I appreciate your criticism.
@@MohammedssbuI think even so, Miya has won several supermajors, Dabuz hasn’t even won a single one. To me Miya’s major wins record automatically means he’s top 5 of all time without a doubt.
@@Jokerftw996You realise it's less of a feat that Dabuz has 0 majors after 6 years of playing, and bro is barely playing anymore. Miya should be like 3 or 4 on this list
The Acola disrespect from the comments is insane. People really can't have someone getting acknowledged for their achievements if they play Steve. Also, fun fact, since his Kagaribi 7 win, Acola has only ever missed top 8 at a single event. That was a 9th at Seibugeki 12 with losses to Repo and Kameme
@@Paradox_Of_Crota Ya but as you probably noticed most of the players on this list were good pre and post quarantine and the only reason I had an exception for Acola is just because he has been number one so many seasons
@@Cypress1600 Oh thanks so much! I don’t exactly script them but I do have some notes for each section of things to mention so for example in this video i made sure to write the average placement of each player because I knew I wouldn’t memorize all of those numbers. I may also add a couple more bullet points on other things that are important to mention but a lot of it is just kind of off the top of my head. Hope that helps!
I think he has a better case for top 10 in ult than top 3 all time, but I think the main thing is that he’s an icon. In this game, in this community, even though he’s not at the top of the rankings, he’s still relevant
For anyone who's interested, here's my own list, which I based on top 4 placements at majors. Its main flaws are that it doesn't reward good placements outside of top 4, it only makes a distinction between majors and supermajors despite the fact that not all A tiers are equal and not all S/P tiers are equal either, it doesn't take the win quality of your bracket path into consideration, it rewards high attendance a lot, and finally some events are considered majors by some sources but not by others which forced me to make some judgement calls. I still think it's interesting, so I wanted to share it. 1)Mkleo 2)Miya 3)Sparg0 4)Acola 5)Shuton(yes!) 6)Tweek 7)Glutonny 8)Sonix 9)Light 10-11) Dabuz and Tea currently have the exact same number of points, so, uh, I guess I have to include both for now!
@@legrandliseurtri7495 GREAT LIST! The only thing I can think of as another flaw you don’t mention of it is it would exclude a player who pretty consistently does well but gets a terrible placement and would only really count a bad placement as a placement out of the top 4 so a 5th place would count the same as a placement of 513th. Regardless of the lack of the distinction there I really appreciate your input and it’s super well thought out.
I have some gripes about this list. But it’s decent overall. Here is my list. 1. Mkleo (duh 3.5 years of dominance) 2. Tweek. One of only two people who has been ranked top 10 ever since the first ever rankings. (Along side light im pretty sure) has always have great placements in tournaments. Has been dominant for as long as leo. And I would argue he’s closing the gap between the two. Considering tweek has been keeping up while leo has been on a slump. 3-4. Miya and acola. Very interchangeable. The japanese rivals! The no.1 and 2 players in the world as of this upload! Now, personally. These two can be interchangeable. For the very short time these two players were able to compete post quarantine. Miya has tied leo for the most major wins in ultimate history. And Acola has arguably the bigger peak/dominance between the two. Being ranked 1 for 3 seasons and 2nd for 1. (I am an acola fan but I don’t think he is going to be no.1 this ranking it’s either sparg0 or miya). Further more. Acola is more consistent between the two players. His worst ever placement in supermajor I think being 7th. So yeah. I think acola has the better peak and more consistency, while miya has volume of wins. 5: Sparg0. The 2nd coming of Leo! Honestly, if sparg0 claims no.1 rank this season, it would be a toss up between him miya and acola for 3-5 for me. But as it stands. Sparg0 hasn’t had a no.1 season. But if you ask yourself why is Miya is above him even though he also doesn’t have a no.1 rank season. Because miya has more major wins, better losses. The one thing holding sparg0 most. In my opinion are his losses. Not to people like sonix or leo, no. But as the volatile character that cloud is. Losses to people out of top 50 really harms his case here, but I think his a top 5 player. 6. Sonix. You know the vibes! And no the four horsemen of ultimate being next to each other is not because they’re the four horsemen, I just think they’re really close. Anyways, why I had sonix placed the worst out of his peers is quite simple actually. Aside from online. He in my opinion just doesn’t have enough results to justify him being above sparg0. In time though I can see him being the best among his peers. He just needs more results, which sadly takes more time. 7. Light. One of the most explosive and fun to watch players! And the other one of the two along side tweek to be ranked in the top 10 every season of the rankings! In all honesty it was a toss up between him and no.8 for this spot. But ultimately I chose light for 7th place. His consistency with fox can’t be understated. Through bad matchups he has always stayed fox and won bad match ups. And light has won a fair amount of tournaments. 8. Gluttony. The french menace! I understand if you put him above light. But for me, the deciding factor on why I chose light over gluto, was because of his most recent placement on the rankings. Non top 20. But ignoring that. Glutto has been a menace ever since brawl. Has one of the most dominant records against mkleo, and can still hang with the current top players. He deserves a spot on this list. 9. Zackary. The joker of smash. From wolf, to rob, to joker, to pit. Zackary you can argue has the best fundies of all time! The previous no.1 in japan. And characters specialist. Zackary in pre quarantine was a top 3-4 player consistently. And even quitting ultimate for a year. In kagiribi, he entered with pit of all characters, and top 8. Can still play with the current top players. And he’s going this shit with PIT and DARK PIT out of all characters. 10. Shuton. The mkleo SLAYER. Arguably the most consistent player in ultimate HISTORY. Ever since the beginning of ult. Shuton has always shown his skill and prowess, not dropping a single game to mkleo. And pretty sure always top 15 in rankings. Mr consistency of ult baby. HM: Tea, marss, proto, kola, dabuz
@ interchangeable with acola! So 3-4. I just think with how short amount of time he has been. He matched leo with most major wins. In like 1.5 years of competing, what took the goat of smash 3 years. I think says something about miya
@@Mohammedssbu Burns my eyes, can't turn it off, and doesn't really make this kind of video more appealing (in my opinion). It makes more sense for like a photography type video
The thing is, you say Protobanham is better in the West than in Japan, and that is true.. in 2022 and onwards. In 2021 though, let's just say that before Acola dominated Japan, Proto was the one winning tons of Japanese tournaments. He was insane here.
My list based of average ranking, highest/lowest ranks, specific periods of dominance, longevity and what stuff they've won/how much they've won (and I've really thought about this): 10. 🇯🇵 zackray 9. 🇯🇵Shuton 8. 🇫🇷 Glutonny 7. 🇩🇴 Sonix 6. 🇺🇸 Light 5. 🇯🇵 Miya 4. 🇺🇸 Tweek 3. 🇲🇽 Sparg0 2. 🇯🇵 acola 1. 🇲🇽 MkLeo
@Mohammedssbu Sparg0 has been consistenly ranked above tweek since 2021 except for this one last season, long enough for me. And if I put Sparg0 above Tweek I have to do the same for acola, who has not only done pretty much the same thing, but also has been ranked #1 for over a year now, something that Tweek sadly never acomplished. I'd like Tweek to be higher, he's my favorite player, but I don't think he should be.
Tbf for Leo, getting ranked 25th with a major win while having better or equal results to multiple players above him is a little absurd, I get he's not #1 anymore but like, bro got so hard dragged by region bias (Japan deserves it tho)
@@AidanXavier-qv5ee Tbh I think part of the reason they did that is because of the discussion around it rather than him actually being that rank. I think they knew so many people would talk about it and that was their goal.
@@thisisaclown8497 I actually did think about putting Maister on the list but the main thing that prevented me from doing so was the fact that his Break Out tournament was frostbite 2020 which was one of the last tournaments before the quarantine. This meant that Dabuz had a bit more time on the top than Maister. To be honest though they are so close in terms of their career success. It’s just personal preference on which player is higher than the other.
You want to be corrected? Well, then. So, Dabuz was ranked above Maister in both 2022 and 2023, and in the first half of 2019, and I'd say he had better peaks in 2021 than Maister. This year is the first one where Maister is doing better than Dabuz, and that's mostly because Dabuz barely plays the game anymore tbh. Both players have failed to ever win a major, but at least Dabuz has reached grand finals of majors and supermajors far more often than Maister; in fact, I think he's still the player with the most second places at majors ever(he has 11 second places!). Meanwhile, Maister typically loses a little earlier even when he does well in a tournament(he has only reached grand finals of a major 3 times in his career, if I'm not mistaken). In addition, Maister is not the best player of any of his characters, while Dabuz is still solidly the best Rosalina player ever.
not having miya or sonix on this list to me as a melee player feels like if you don’t have Zain or Cody in the top 10 on the goat list even though they’ve been playing far shorter than most of the competition
@@user-wn7ko1uu3b idk about that! 😂 especially for IBDW he has been a top melee player for as long as I can remember. Miya on the other hand has only been ranked top 10 for the first time in the last 365 days so not necessarily a comparable situation.
@ Cody has been ranked since 2018, only really good since 2019 which is 5 out of melees 23 years and ult has been around less than 6 years so it’s really not that different, plus with Miya being overall better in that year than Cody I think it’s a fair comparison
@@Vaporwavelol this list really prioritized longe it and being good for a long period of time so that’s why players like Miya or Sonix haven’t made it. They both were way worse or just inactive offline pre quarantine so that’s why some of the people on this list are above them. As for Zackary and Marss, Marss is my favorite player so I would love to put him on this list but he has just been a little too inconsistent especially post quarantine with a 65th at smash on 2022 and multiple 17ths and 33rds at tournemtns like SWT and double down. As for Zackray I actualy had a really hard time decising who would make number 10 in this list, him or dabuz because their average ranks are very close but Dabuz has a bit higher of a rank so I just went with him.
@@Mohammedssbu can understand that, when he does have those pop off games though, he really plays like a king no other can top. He could've been 10 in the list and wouldn't be disappointed. It is your list though. No worries!
Well, there won't be an official number 1 of the year since Lumirank split the year into two separate seasons. Unofficially, Miya will be considered number 1 of the year by most people, since he'll probably be ranked number 2 in both seasons, while Acola will fall to number 3 or 4 this season and Sparg0 was number 9 the first half of the year.
@@legrandliseurtri7495 imo they should split the seasons like they do right now and say who is number one in the first half of the year and in the second half of the year separately but then they should also say who was number one overall in the whole year
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Nah I'd win
@@BenjaminGriscom TRUE TRUE
Miya with 24 Major Wins [same amount as Leo] not top 10 behind dabuz unlucky. Ig he needs to win another 20 Majors to be Top 10. Otherwise good Video i enjoyed
@@Jajazstdhd It’s mostly due to Miya’s success being more in the short term compared to someone like Dabuz. Miya only started being top-10 ranked during the second half of 2023, so even though it might feel like he’s been around for a while, he hasn’t really had the time to show the same longevity. Additionally, Miya hasn’t demonstrated the consistency that someone like MKLeo had in his prime. For instance, Miya had placements like 17th at Genesis with losses to players he arguably shouldn’t be losing to, like Zackray and Raflow, and even a 49th place at 篝火#9, losing to players outside the top 20 at the time, such as Jagaimo and SRIKS. For Miya to be considered top 10 of all time, he would likely need to maintain a top-10 rank for a longer period and gain more consistency. However, I understand how recency bias might make it feel like Miya has had a more impressive career than some of these players.
@@MohammedssbuMiya won majors Dabuz didnt
the thing is no one actually cares for miya, he doesnt make youtube videos, he doesnt stream he doesnt go to podcasts Id argue maister is above miya in terms of goat status because maister actually contributes to the comunity miya plays soley to win he shows no personality neither in the way he plays or as a person he doesnt care about the comunity like any other player on this list
@@MohammedssbuW vid btw ur ideas r rlly good. About Miya i understand ur point but honestly I feel like being the player tied with most major wins (24) is just too impressive to ignore, also this aint a massive difference but Miya was winning majors since 2022 and was top 4 since the first half of 2023. Other than that W list
@@shengnyyj you know all this because your his homie right? He streams cery often...
As of now, Mkleo is absolutely insane. Like in recent tournaments that came out after this video was posted he has been insane!
@@Landonsyoutubechannel and I’m glad about it 😃
@ me too!
I think that if Marss doesn't make the list he deserve at the very least an HM, dude was TOP 5/3 at his prime and tbh is not like he is washed now he is just not as good as he used to be but hella underrated because he does not attend many tournaments, he can still place TOP 8s at majors and beat Miya the seed 1 of the biggest tournament of the year
@@Ryng98 fs. If I did an HM it would be Marss, Samsora, Zackray, Miya,and Sonix. Marss is my favorite player so it was hard excluding him from5 the list.
I really like your video!! Good idea and editing!
I really disagree with Dabuz being over people like Miya, or Sonix but specially Miya.
I know it’s an all-time list, but that doesn’t mean you automatically make the top10 because you started playing since day 1. In the 4 years and a half of ultimate’s lifespan Miya has won majors and placed top-4 consistently since half of 2022. I really don’t get how he didn’t make the list.
@@javiersfg7 thanks for enjoying! I put Dabuz above Miya for a couple reasons but the longevity is a big part of it, however even in the year you mentioned 2022 Dabuz was ranked above Miya in both the first and second half of the year so I just think Miya would have to be successful maybe a year longer to compare to Dabuz’s 6 years of success in ultimate but I appreciate your criticism.
@@MohammedssbuI think even so, Miya has won several supermajors, Dabuz hasn’t even won a single one. To me Miya’s major wins record automatically means he’s top 5 of all time without a doubt.
Terrible list but I like the enthusiasm!
Dabuz who never won a major higher than Miya, who has the most major wins
@@eanderson9599well to be fair Miya hasn’t been successful for that long but Dabuz has been a top player since day 1
@@eanderson9599 He's been that good for 6 years, Miya been playing for 1 ????
@@colt4531 Miya won his first major midway through 2022, he's been good for much more than a year.
@@Jokerftw996You realise it's less of a feat that Dabuz has 0 majors after 6 years of playing, and bro is barely playing anymore. Miya should be like 3 or 4 on this list
The Acola disrespect from the comments is insane. People really can't have someone getting acknowledged for their achievements if they play Steve.
Also, fun fact, since his Kagaribi 7 win, Acola has only ever missed top 8 at a single event. That was a 9th at Seibugeki 12 with losses to Repo and Kameme
@@typhlosion7872 fax
How is Sonix not on this list. He's been on fire ever since Quarantine.
@@Paradox_Of_Crota Ya but as you probably noticed most of the players on this list were good pre and post quarantine and the only reason I had an exception for Acola is just because he has been number one so many seasons
for 2021-2022 he was like a top 15-20 player, it was 2023 where he became a top 4 player so that’s probably why
Awesome vid, very inspiring. I’m curious do you script your videos?
@@Cypress1600 Oh thanks so much! I don’t exactly script them but I do have some notes for each section of things to mention so for example in this video i made sure to write the average placement of each player because I knew I wouldn’t memorize all of those numbers. I may also add a couple more bullet points on other things that are important to mention but a lot of it is just kind of off the top of my head. Hope that helps!
@ yes that definitely helps! We’re so lucky to have someone like you in the smash community! Thanks man!
@@Cypress1600 oh you are too kind!
Dabuz is a top 3 smash bros player of all time but definitely not top 10 in ult
Lol
I think he has a better case for top 10 in ult than top 3 all time, but I think the main thing is that he’s an icon. In this game, in this community, even though he’s not at the top of the rankings, he’s still relevant
This would be my list
1. MkLeo
2. Tweek
3. Sparg0
4. Miya
5. Acola
6. Light
7. Shuton
8. Sonix
9. Gluttony
10. Zackray
great vid, man!
@@gustavo1992elgus Thanks sooooo much!!! 🙏
For anyone who's interested, here's my own list, which I based on top 4 placements at majors. Its main flaws are that it doesn't reward good placements outside of top 4, it only makes a distinction between majors and supermajors despite the fact that not all A tiers are equal and not all S/P tiers are equal either, it doesn't take the win quality of your bracket path into consideration, it rewards high attendance a lot, and finally some events are considered majors by some sources but not by others which forced me to make some judgement calls. I still think it's interesting, so I wanted to share it.
1)Mkleo
2)Miya
3)Sparg0
4)Acola
5)Shuton(yes!)
6)Tweek
7)Glutonny
8)Sonix
9)Light
10-11) Dabuz and Tea currently have the exact same number of points, so, uh, I guess I have to include both for now!
@@legrandliseurtri7495 GREAT LIST! The only thing I can think of as another flaw you don’t mention of it is it would exclude a player who pretty consistently does well but gets a terrible placement and would only really count a bad placement as a placement out of the top 4 so a 5th place would count the same as a placement of 513th. Regardless of the lack of the distinction there I really appreciate your input and it’s super well thought out.
@@Mohammedssbu Good point, there's indeed no difference between 513th and 5th on this list and that's another flaw with it.
w video man, just one little thing, leo didn't win his 6 genesis in a row, he loss in G9 to Marss
@@electoshock6820 Oh ya. That was Genesis 7 but you’re right. He didn’t win 6 in a row but he won 6 total, thanks for reminding me.
@@Mohammedssbu truth bro, thanks for the correction.
@@Mohammedssbuit was actually 5 total. Genesis 4+5 for smash 4, 6,8 and 9 for ultimate
@@Riley-u8m I want you to carefully recount how many genesis's leo won again and tell me if it's still 5
@@keylarous467yep just like I said, he won genesis 4 and 5 in smash 4, won 6,8 and 9 for ultimate. 4,5,6,8 and 9 in fact makes 5!
w algorithm, new subscriber
@@Jgoluvs 😂 thanks
I have some gripes about this list. But it’s decent overall. Here is my list.
1. Mkleo (duh 3.5 years of dominance)
2. Tweek. One of only two people who has been ranked top 10 ever since the first ever rankings. (Along side light im pretty sure) has always have great placements in tournaments. Has been dominant for as long as leo. And I would argue he’s closing the gap between the two. Considering tweek has been keeping up while leo has been on a slump.
3-4. Miya and acola. Very interchangeable. The japanese rivals! The no.1 and 2 players in the world as of this upload! Now, personally. These two can be interchangeable. For the very short time these two players were able to compete post quarantine. Miya has tied leo for the most major wins in ultimate history. And Acola has arguably the bigger peak/dominance between the two. Being ranked 1 for 3 seasons and 2nd for 1. (I am an acola fan but I don’t think he is going to be no.1 this ranking it’s either sparg0 or miya). Further more. Acola is more consistent between the two players. His worst ever placement in supermajor I think being 7th. So yeah. I think acola has the better peak and more consistency, while miya has volume of wins.
5: Sparg0. The 2nd coming of Leo! Honestly, if sparg0 claims no.1 rank this season, it would be a toss up between him miya and acola for 3-5 for me. But as it stands. Sparg0 hasn’t had a no.1 season. But if you ask yourself why is Miya is above him even though he also doesn’t have a no.1 rank season.
Because miya has more major wins, better losses. The one thing holding sparg0 most. In my opinion are his losses. Not to people like sonix or leo, no. But as the volatile character that cloud is. Losses to people out of top 50 really harms his case here, but I think his a top 5 player.
6. Sonix. You know the vibes! And no the four horsemen of ultimate being next to each other is not because they’re the four horsemen, I just think they’re really close. Anyways, why I had sonix placed the worst out of his peers is quite simple actually. Aside from online. He in my opinion just doesn’t have enough results to justify him being above sparg0. In time though I can see him being the best among his peers. He just needs more results, which sadly takes more time.
7. Light. One of the most explosive and fun to watch players! And the other one of the two along side tweek to be ranked in the top 10 every season of the rankings! In all honesty it was a toss up between him and no.8 for this spot. But ultimately I chose light for 7th place. His consistency with fox can’t be understated. Through bad matchups he has always stayed fox and won bad match ups. And light has won a fair amount of tournaments.
8. Gluttony. The french menace! I understand if you put him above light. But for me, the deciding factor on why I chose light over gluto, was because of his most recent placement on the rankings. Non top 20. But ignoring that. Glutto has been a menace ever since brawl. Has one of the most dominant records against mkleo, and can still hang with the current top players. He deserves a spot on this list.
9. Zackary. The joker of smash. From wolf, to rob, to joker, to pit. Zackary you can argue has the best fundies of all time! The previous no.1 in japan. And characters specialist. Zackary in pre quarantine was a top 3-4 player consistently. And even quitting ultimate for a year. In kagiribi, he entered with pit of all characters, and top 8. Can still play with the current top players. And he’s going this shit with PIT and DARK PIT out of all characters.
10. Shuton. The mkleo SLAYER. Arguably the most consistent player in ultimate HISTORY. Ever since the beginning of ult. Shuton has always shown his skill and prowess, not dropping a single game to mkleo. And pretty sure always top 15 in rankings. Mr consistency of ult baby.
HM: Tea, marss, proto, kola, dabuz
@@chrisyeincarag4860 Really good list! I’m just surprised how high Miya is. Top 3 is crazy.
@ interchangeable with acola! So 3-4.
I just think with how short amount of time he has been. He matched leo with most major wins. In like 1.5 years of competing, what took the goat of smash 3 years. I think says something about miya
Sonix dominated the quarantine itself
That’s fax, but I was mostly counting offline
please do not upload in HDR, otherwise nice video
@@baller_remorse why not
@@Mohammedssbu Burns my eyes, can't turn it off, and doesn't really make this kind of video more appealing (in my opinion). It makes more sense for like a photography type video
The thing is, you say Protobanham is better in the West than in Japan, and that is true.. in 2022 and onwards. In 2021 though, let's just say that before Acola dominated Japan, Proto was the one winning tons of Japanese tournaments. He was insane here.
@@Eclipsmon8421 great to here some insight from Japan! Protobanham really is quite the incredible player and for sure one of my absolute favorites.
My list based of average ranking, highest/lowest ranks, specific periods of dominance, longevity and what stuff they've won/how much they've won (and I've really thought about this):
10. 🇯🇵 zackray
9. 🇯🇵Shuton
8. 🇫🇷 Glutonny
7. 🇩🇴 Sonix
6. 🇺🇸 Light
5. 🇯🇵 Miya
4. 🇺🇸 Tweek
3. 🇲🇽 Sparg0
2. 🇯🇵 acola
1. 🇲🇽 MkLeo
@@alovo4655 good list but I’m really surprised Tweek is so low because he’s been top 5 for so long
@Mohammedssbu Sparg0 has been consistenly ranked above tweek since 2021 except for this one last season, long enough for me. And if I put Sparg0 above Tweek I have to do the same for acola, who has not only done pretty much the same thing, but also has been ranked #1 for over a year now, something that Tweek sadly never acomplished. I'd like Tweek to be higher, he's my favorite player, but I don't think he should be.
W list
@@inarencommander4663 W comment!
Tbf for Leo, getting ranked 25th with a major win while having better or equal results to multiple players above him is a little absurd, I get he's not #1 anymore but like, bro got so hard dragged by region bias (Japan deserves it tho)
Leo had decent placements last season, but very few good wins, that was the problem for him. He's not having this problem this season.
@@AidanXavier-qv5ee Tbh I think part of the reason they did that is because of the discussion around it rather than him actually being that rank. I think they knew so many people would talk about it and that was their goal.
@@Mohammedssbu But it's an algorithm based ranking not panel based. Are you saying Lumirank rigged the algorithm against Leo specifically?
You should do a more subjective list of the most "skilled" players of all time.
@@chefgoldblum1450 that’s a good idea but I feel like you probably won’t see acola on the list 😂
@@Mohammedssbu haha I would agree with that. I think most people would.
I think you backed up your placements pretty well
@@Jokerftw996 I tried
Agree with ur top 5 with 1 exception...where is Zackray?
@@seansami6275 That’s a good point
im surprised that zachray is not on this list, but I can see an argument for him not being top 10
@@nickd.8180 I was SUPER close to putting him and honestly should have put him as honorable mention.
kinda feel like maister has always been above dabuz in terms of consistency and rankings, correct me if im wrong
@@thisisaclown8497 I actually did think about putting Maister on the list but the main thing that prevented me from doing so was the fact that his Break Out tournament was frostbite 2020 which was one of the last tournaments before the quarantine. This meant that Dabuz had a bit more time on the top than Maister. To be honest though they are so close in terms of their career success. It’s just personal preference on which player is higher than the other.
You want to be corrected? Well, then. So, Dabuz was ranked above Maister in both 2022 and 2023, and in the first half of 2019, and I'd say he had better peaks in 2021 than Maister. This year is the first one where Maister is doing better than Dabuz, and that's mostly because Dabuz barely plays the game anymore tbh. Both players have failed to ever win a major, but at least Dabuz has reached grand finals of majors and supermajors far more often than Maister; in fact, I think he's still the player with the most second places at majors ever(he has 11 second places!). Meanwhile, Maister typically loses a little earlier even when he does well in a tournament(he has only reached grand finals of a major 3 times in his career, if I'm not mistaken).
In addition, Maister is not the best player of any of his characters, while Dabuz is still solidly the best Rosalina player ever.
not having miya or sonix on this list to me as a melee player feels like if you don’t have Zain or Cody in the top 10 on the goat list even though they’ve been playing far shorter than most of the competition
@@user-wn7ko1uu3b idk about that! 😂 especially for IBDW he has been a top melee player for as long as I can remember. Miya on the other hand has only been ranked top 10 for the first time in the last 365 days so not necessarily a comparable situation.
@ Cody has been ranked since 2018, only really good since 2019 which is 5 out of melees 23 years and ult has been around less than 6 years so it’s really not that different, plus with Miya being overall better in that year than Cody I think it’s a fair comparison
Where do you think Zackray would be ranked?
@@numerousjibian In my opinion probably 11
@ Ah I see, also good list and video btw. Keep up the good work👍
Only L of this video is not having Miya top 10.
@@fupalover fain enough
Horrid list, no Miya, no Sonix
Zackray and Marss should also arguably be on the list
Tweek over Acola is absurd
Proto over Tea is absurd
i think you missed the “of all time”. i don’t agree with some of the rankings but putting sonix here would be crazy.
@ no it wouldn’t, he’s been top 5 for two years
@@Vaporwavelol this list really prioritized longe it and being good for a long period of time so that’s why players like Miya or Sonix haven’t made it. They both were way worse or just inactive offline pre quarantine so that’s why some of the people on this list are above them. As for Zackary and Marss, Marss is my favorite player so I would love to put him on this list but he has just been a little too inconsistent especially post quarantine with a 65th at smash on 2022 and multiple 17ths and 33rds at tournemtns like SWT and double down. As for Zackray I actualy had a really hard time decising who would make number 10 in this list, him or dabuz because their average ranks are very close but Dabuz has a bit higher of a rank so I just went with him.
@@Vaporwavelol That's a third of the time the game has been out
@ I know
Am I the only person who thinks Tweek is overrated?
@@Yung_Baby_Lotion maybe… I haven’t really heard that before.
Xenoblade has the best music 🫡
@@Kolya-chu it’s fire 🔥
where is sonix
@@jasaih7220 maybe like top 13-15
12:03 He only won 5 genesis tournaments and not in a row either.
@@LegendCobraX-w2o he won 6 but I should’ve specified not all in ultimate.
@ he only won 5 dawg 💀
@@LegendCobraX-w2o 6 lil bro
@@RobertoTempest He won 4, 5, 6, 8, 9. Y’all tripping. That ain’t 6 🤦♂️
@@LegendCobraX-w2o cap
Why isn’t Zack ray here
@@Alfiegaming88 it was tough cuz I could only put 10 but he would definitely be number 11 if I could put one more.
Where'd thy Kola? The best Roy
@@gdashfan13gd30 Well to be fair I feel like Kola is maybe a little inconsistent tat times and he wasn’t nearly as good pre quarantine
@@Mohammedssbu can understand that, when he does have those pop off games though, he really plays like a king no other can top. He could've been 10 in the list and wouldn't be disappointed. It is your list though. No worries!
Also Acola uses Steve soooo….
@@Jumogas trueseeee…
No sonix ?
@@narciso1470 no 😢
Sonix should've been 2 lol
Light is top 3 don’t care
@@Yung_Baby_Lotion ok 😊
Do you guys agree with my placements?
Where is Sonix?
Sorry, but Spargo doesn't deserve number 1 this year
Well, there won't be an official number 1 of the year since Lumirank split the year into two separate seasons. Unofficially, Miya will be considered number 1 of the year by most people, since he'll probably be ranked number 2 in both seasons, while Acola will fall to number 3 or 4 this season and Sparg0 was number 9 the first half of the year.
@@legrandliseurtri7495 imo they should split the seasons like they do right now and say who is number one in the first half of the year and in the second half of the year separately but then they should also say who was number one overall in the whole year