Subaru BRZ / Toyota GR86 (2023) Crash Test - Disappointing Results (Base-model)
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Subaru BRZ and Toyota GR86 crash test
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Not terrible actually
Well the car was designed as a nose down ideal for better balance. So yes the frontal collision will really get crumpled downward. What surprises me the most is they got a crash test dummy into the back seat with some leg room.
@Corey Brown Gaming my thoughts exactly. Very very rarely are the back seats ever gonna have someone in them, like basically only when you're in a bind & no one else has room.
@Corey Brown Gaming My son does. The sole purpose of my 2023 Gr86 seems to give him joy rides. Next time I buy a sports car, I will make sure it only has seats in the front.
Bah......I'll still buy one.
Iliy
the actual structure is safe. Scores are down because of active safety systems, which is kind of not fair
As long as it doesn't kill the driver at the crash test speed, I'll consider it safe.
Not real fine
That's why people pay more for old Porsche 911.
Safety ratings lost their meaning when they started weighting them heavily towards “active” features. Would I have bought a 4 star car 10 years ago? No. Would I buy a 2 star car now…that would have been a 5 star car 10 years ago? Absolutely.
Now we have someone who knows the business. Exactly, the car woulda been 10/10 10years ago. This thing has body rigidity of 400000 newton per radius per meter. It is Lamborghini level spec.
the more people have those active safety features , the safer the roads become. give it time and all cars will catch up
@@yodesuyo Debatable
@@yodesuyo No, the more harder it is to get a license, the safer roads will become, these days you can get a license out of a cereal box
@@shengdong2025 please share your source
Yeah, it has 5 star for cockpit crash safety, 0 stars for pedestrian and pre-collision.
That’ll do me…I don’t give a sh1t about the rest.
Incorrect. Majority 5/5 or 4/5 for front and side impact occupant safety tests. 2/5 for rear end collision neck safety. 5/5 and 4/5 pedestrian safety for head and leg collision. Basically 0 points (2 technically) out of 80 for collision avoidance systems and 0 out of 8 points for post-crash automated call systems.
It’s literally just the lack of pre-collision avoidance systems, lack of “OnStar” style systems, and below average rear-end collision scores.
But you’re right in that as passengers it’s borderline 5 stars.
@@oppos727 so basically useless junk for a car marketed for people who enjoy driving.
@@oppos727 yeah and how much of that rear collision is with a full sized adult in the back which is laughable.
@@wayward03 some guy online was saying the 2/5 rear end scores were unacceptable and ruled this car out for him and his kids. I’m thinking buddy if you prize your Children’s safety you shouldn’t be planning on toting them in something that’s half the size of every other car on the road in the first place
I own a 23 GR86. Toyota and Subaru made a very safe car for what it is, given it is a 2700 lb sports car. Only reason why it got this “low” is because of the car not having any form of driver assist, besides blind spot monitoring which is standard on all trims of both the GR86 and BRZ, regardless of transmission choice. The human occupancy score is a 5 out of 5 I believe, so it is pretty good!
TITLE IS WRONG FOR 2 REASONS:
1. These are Premium trim levels (Or in Subaru's case, "Limited")
2. Why is this disappointing?
Am I missing something?
All passengers were safe. Airbags deployed in all instances.
This needs an explanation. This car is not built to be "Super safe" but it does have enough safety features to make sure you can get home at the end of the day. (Of course if the crash is street based)
But why 2 star? The car didn't crunch close to the people sitting inside from the front.
2 star as it doesn't get any ADAS systems.
It scored very well in collision test.
@@framex.jpg165 Gotcha. Thanks for clearing it up.
Come on man they’re trying really hard to push you away from buying one so that you can switch to electric cars. Also they see people will like it so they will try anything to ruin the sales. Stop questioning their efforts
@@the_merc9918 lol
Fun fact : this car actually does not performed bad on Crash tests,
the main reason why does this got such low score like this, are because they tested non-safety assist equipped version of the car.
Related on all crash results, Guess it's gonna be around 4-star rating when you put the safety assist on. (i mean, the automatic transmission model. the tested vehicle shown in the video are manual transmission model, which there was no options to add safety assist on.)
@@Normalmark1_ Conclusion: manuals are inherently unsafer compared to automatics
@@rosemaryfriedw124a8 even it's available on automatic transmission model, wonder why they did not decided to add safety assist option on manual transmission one
@@Normalmark1_ The lowest trims i think, nowdays car have the higher trims automatic and tons of feature
@ChristopherH They did test Collision Preventing Safety Aids test but it scored 2 oints out of 82 in that part. As it doesnt get Emergency Auto-Calling facility, it further lost whole 8 points. That's the reason for it's low score.
The GT86 in 2013 got excellent results, so I don't see why this should be any different with the GR86 in 2022. The car is objectively safe.
Subaru/Toyota used more aluminum.
I love these cars
I feel crash test ratings are too biased towards electronic assists these days. Considering the cars tested are not autonomous vehicles, and still require a driver, should cars really be penalised that harsh for not containing electronic safety assists?
I agree, often cars with poor crash performance get rated over cars with good crash dynamics due ti a difference in tech. For instance my WRX is “worse” than my HRV. Both cars are the same year 2021. The HRV has full Honda sense and the WRX being manual does not have a camera/detection system. However in actual crashes the WRX has more/better airbag placement, exponentially stronger passenger cell, significantly lower rollover risk, better braking distance and it shows in the deaths per million registered miles. Even though the WRX is driven way faster on avg it kills less people per million miles… but ofcourse hOnDa SeNsInG
I recently was in an extremely violent wreck in my 23' gr86 and I would like to credit the car with how it held up and with no exaggeration, saving my life. I will say that although this cars construction and safety features saved me from meeting an untimely and gruesome demise, the accident was entirely caused by the vehicles electronic steering and traction control system. Be very weary when purchasing these cars and it would almost be better to drive it with traction control completely turned off/ track mode unless you are driving in snowy conditions.
Sorry to hear you had a bad accident... glad you survived it.
Do you mind explain it a bit more? I find the tc on this car not very active at all sometimes when I'm in a round about and exiting it in 2nd gear 70 80％ throttle the back end will start to slide just a touch and the tc light wasn't even flashing.
Looks good enough for me. My non existant rear seat passengers will be just fine.
I didn't buy an inexpensive sports car for the safety rating.
That’s exactly what makes this car great. No extra weight or money for “safety” features
I see 5 stars car here! Occupants are safe in all tests. Bonnet deformed to safe pedestrians.
Actually I am quite impressed with this footage. The car pretty much squares up to front and side impacts.
This car only weighs 2,868 curb with several lighter alloy aluminum accruements.
Toyota may have a stardom car here in the making, or it will be one hell of a tuners dream in years to come.
Lack of the safety assists caused the low star rating.
Pfff... To be honest either this is clickbait or missing an explanation/comparison. Either way ti makes it clickbait without the explanation, as I personally don't know what's wrong here or why these "results" are "disappointing" as to what would be the expected outcome. Maybe compare with another car? (once to safest, once to one who is a similar car to this one?)
Lack of the safety assists ruined the score. It has 5 stars from collision tests.
because it's base model not the top trim, You don't get any active safety system for base model that's why it's 2 star rating compare with the same car but top trim(5 Star)
2 stars because it ‘failed’ the pedestrian test 🙄
It scored a 5/5 pedestrian head safety and 4/5 leg safety test, so no, it aced the pedestrian safety tests.
It “failed” to provide any active collision avoidance systems, a post-crash automatic emergency call system, and scored below average rear-end passenger neck safety.
It’s a 4.5/5 safe car in reality.
Shame they wrecked so many when you can’t get hold of them in the UK 😅
Surely there would be an importer that gets them from Japan
I cant even find one for sale in Poland yet
They did this with the Jimny and now with this one. Anything that people want, like, enjoy, they will try to find ways to either destroy the reputation, keep increasing pollution requirements, safety, etc.
あの速度で突っ込んでフロントガラスが割れてない所を見るにボディー剛性の高さが伺えれる
Good point
I thought the 2022 Gr86 & BRZ got a top safety pick?
Sports cars do not need electronic safety features, it's a liability on the track. This car is meant only for one person inside not for average joes who do groceries or are stuck with childeren
I feel the target demographic for these cars do not really care about the safety, they just want a good budget sporty car
we die like real man
I saw that someone walked away from a driver side collision where a car ran the red light at 50mph.
I’ve driven 80s and 90s jdm cars my whole life. Those cars would literally fold into tinfoil in a crash. I think this is fine lol
Ehhhh, I’d still buy it. My one contention is with the driver’s airbag- Is it just me or does it inflate into the dummy’s face? Could be the dummy sitting position but it definitely looks like it’s close enough to be struck with an inflating bag.
Heres a cool trick: don’t crash
Please stop breaking such beautiful cars😭😢
In this Japanese test, manuals are selected for the test because they are the most popular models. Manuals are not equipped with collision avoidance systems, which is why they are rated this way. If it were an automatic transmission, the rating would have been better. In fact, the IIHS in the U.S. gave the BRZ a much better rating.
Still doesn’t matter because just Toyota manual dont get it but automatic yes, Subaru? Is his technology! In any version.
Can’t be less safe than a na/nb miata
Yeah
In my opinion it looks great, the frame looks very rigid.
But as some pointed out it lack of electronic assist. Well, it's your choice but I think it's good enough for me at this time.
It has electronic assists with all automatics. They only tested ones without it for some reason, instead of testing both or testing the one with the features they're looking for. Seems like a biased test imo
It looked like it did well. The cabin seemed to stay in tact. Can you post why it was "disappointing results?
It seems that EyeSight will be installed in the MT model in the near future. I don't know if it's C type or D type yet, but I'll buy a new one at that time.
could be disabled easily, surely?
This UA-cam video alone doesn’t show relevance towards others. Numerical values would be nice to see in order to compare, at least what standards are.
Side skirts just pop off? Hmm. I wouldn't mind modifying some if they are that easy to remove.
I saw a video of the facility in which they're built. Sideskirts and rear spoiler (even the base one) have just some clips to keep them in place. Modify them should be veeeery easy!
@@YariNebbia I saw that the spoiler was easy to remove and change. Aftermarket companies are already making their own versions.
Man I feel like if you resell honda s2k nowadays, you'd get 1 star.
driving 90s shitboxes has made me realize that literally in any modern car you'll walk away from the crash.
Disappointing? Not for me. That's exactly what I'm looking for. I don't really want all the electronic safety aids.
Yes, but it supposed to rock a roll cage 😎
Lack of safety assists made the score go low.
How to loosen bumper
Step 1:
Launch giant sausage smack dab into the front
Why is the results disappointing?
Airbags are amazing
I'd still buy one. It has working airbags and seatbelts, which is good enough for me.
I don't really need active safety systems on my car. They won't do you any good if you're half asleep or texting somebody while driving (or just hooning around on a public road like a piece of sh*t).
That was a good crash test actually
And yet I would buy one
Idk about disappointing, ive seen so many crazy accidents in the car esecially on the first gen, and people making it out alive.
I thought it actually looks like it didn't quite well you want the car to bend and crumple but keep the driver's compartment intact
Reality is reality and should be given criticism if it's not good enough, but I still love the car so much.
I'm still getting my Toyota 86 if I die I die happy my dream car thank you Toyota
What's so terrible about it? I'm not too familiar with what to look for in crash tests
Fuck it take my money Toyota... You have just proved this is a safe car. Now if you could only teach me to drift.
ルーフアルミなのにキャビン強いな
Unbelievable i cant even afford one of these 😪
If you are scared of crashing, work from home.
So, the new BRZ, GR86 is not safe?
No, they are safe. The reason why it got a poor rating is that the ncap pushes too much weight in electronics assist. It got a 2022 Top Safety Pick Plus by IIHSHLDI.
I was looking for this today and it JUST came
Cockpit looks intact so it's a good thing for me
These tests weren't even bad...bogus safety ratings
note to self- don't crash
How fast those things coming?
In the us it gets good safety rating not sure why this is so low.
I wouldn't want to be in it, but it doesn't look as terrible as I thought.
Considering how well it protected the passagers and the fact that European stricter safety regulations kill this model in 2024 makes me angry! 💢😡
TOOK A BEATING😯
how did they fit a human scale dummy in the back seat?? I need the trick
It's a child based dummy
I’m still gonna buy it and turn it into a drift car
why is this "disappointing"? The dummy looks undamaged and the car took most of the hits.
Still getting one
It's all good until you encounter an suv or truck.
The chassis of the car is actually pretty strong. The only problem is the lack of safety equipment which you don't see in top end models.
People have come out alright from collisions with Semis in Miatas. It’s about how the car protects the passengers and disperses energy.
an suv won’t be nimble, so I can easily avoid an suv
@@aimxdy8680 until they smash into you when you are at a stop light. It's happened to me.
No words😶
What's dissapointing here?
Doesn’t the auto come with a bunch of safety features? I guess its better with that version.
Baby on the back should be fine right? 😅
Model has nothing to do with the chassis or body so why state that rubbish
Most car tested are in the same or worse results.
Looks safe to me!
Not like I will crash mine whenever I get it
I'm Ok,What's For Lunch I'm Hungry
Still better than GT86
Someone already k.o ed in 1. Get an SUV instead if youre worried.... obviously you need to be a pilot look extra when at intersections and behave differently with sports cars. Harder to be seen. I have a Z and proceed with caution. Obviously I cant afford to crash or be crashed into due to the size of the car
SUV's are unsafe death traps. You should get M1 Abrams
Install a rollcage and you'll be fine
So... part out?😂
I hope I don’t gotta be a test dunny in mine
Loses stars for pedestrian safety, what a load of BS. Whats next the car loses stars because doesn't have air bags on the outside for pedestrians? Or maybe its not gender fluid enough?
Who’s here from Reddit
Looks like a supera
Supra
This channel has no idea what they are talking about. Dissapointing results. yeah ok....
Hey can we please do the crush test after the crazy car shortage ends?
is the shortage still happening?
Eh i already got one
What's the hell, explanation please!!!!
No safety assists = no good rating. It actually has 5 stars from collision tests.
Part out! Lol
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Poorst
First
Also thats a weak car
@@zolapeez9114 Lol..Please read the NCAP report dude. It scored around 86 points in collision test which is same as many 5-star rated cars from JNCAP. But this car had no Collision preventing Safety aids & Auto-Calling feature in emergency, thus leading it to get a less score.
😢😢😢😢
plastic car
worst car in the world
No
@@yes8032 Are you Japanese? Get out.
Lol tf
It rated 5 stars for safety, but lack of safety assists hit hard.
L