Ive had to seal spaces holding air and fuel before and like the approach you've taken here. It'd be great to see a follow up to this project after getting a few fatigue cycles on the rim
Thanks for these videos, they have been very educational! Even if it worked for you I've decided to keep my tubed setup. The possible failure of the seal in the long run is worrying, but the main deal breaker for me, and I don't recall if it was mentioned, is that all tire replacements would have to be done by me from that point on. It would be difficult to find a shop that would risk the job on a DIY modified wheel. I have (occasionally) changed tires on my R nineT, but it is sooo cheap and convenient to have it done in a shop that it is something I would not want to forfeit.
@hawgietonight everyone needs to ride their own ride and do what's good for them. I can't say for you. But in japan tire shops with still do the change for me. They will just say that failure isn't their fault. This is a risk, but not actually that big. If there is a damage to 1 spoke, it will be a small slow leak. A mager failure in the rim will likely be as unridable as a tube wheel. But again, at your/my own risk.
@@DragoniteMotoJP yeah it's fair game, once you start tinkering you have to acknowledge that anything that happens later is one's own fault. BTW I dig your style of on-hands approach, got yourself another subscriber. Keep us updated on the tubeless conversion!
@hawgietonight thank you and thank you. Yes, I just did a tire change on the rear. All good, no signs of issues. If there is I'll make another video for sure
@@DragoniteMotoJP deffo trying this in the down time this winter! Had one flat so far and it was a massive pain in the bottom, luckily it happened while I was pulling into the garage, but still took 2 days to organise a tube change. Can you actually feel any weight difference by removing the tubes?
I did put on the same front tire that came with the bike just like your original front tire on a cool looking VMX rim that I put on yesterday and fortunately I didn't damage my tire and even though it shows to be tube type tire it didn't leak but the down side of it is that the VMX tubeless rim put an extra 3 pounds (1.36 kg) on the front of my Transalp 750. You are going in the right direction to achieve your goal for tubeless tire setup because those Transalp wheels are super light, and awesome video mate!
@cliftonsr thanks Wow, that's a big weight gain. I asked them and vmx told me it's the same weight as oem. Glad you like your wheels but I'll stick to my light weight diy😅
just an idea [hope it helps] when removing stubborn rim tape (?) I warm it a little a hair dryer is ok, Ive used my heat gun on low and a few passes the tape adhesive comes away a little better than when its cold. Only low heat just enough to warm it & I can touch the tape without gloves and no discomfort to me. in a pinch I rubbed the rim by hand - didnt have a heat gun. it takes longer, but the old tape had not been on a long time.
@bellyacres7846 thanks, this was dune at 31°c so I thought it was warm enough. But yes heat would help. In this video what I removes at the start was 3m 4200 that I used wrong. Removing tape was in the previous video. But thank you for the tip.
nice work! I've done that on three different bicycles but it seems to be much more work on motorbikes; one question though : why don't you use some sealant to prevent any leaks like we do with tubeless mountain bikes?
Hope that's true. But I've not seen any credible sources If it gets better suspension, cruise, and electrics that remember settings, might be worth the upgrade.
@esrider7765 5200 never comes of without ruining the wheel. So a mistake ruins the wheel. I talk more detail in this video👇 ua-cam.com/video/xgPWV94OvHM/v-deo.html
@@DragoniteMotoJP Thanks for info, I always thought the 4200 was for wood etc, not metal. Seems that is not the case. I am planning on doing this on my motorbike at some stage.
@esrider7765 I pin a comment on all my videos for long term updates. When you get around to doing it to your own bike, check back. If I have trouble I'll pin it in the top comment.
@DaveBoothroyd-ej5in honda is reactive not proactive. And they think if they give us the good features we won't buy the africatwin. They were wrong and we still didn't buy the AT. They just lost our Mooney tot he after market. There are summers of the 2025 having tubeless and cruise
From what I've heard, you cant make the front wheel 100% tubeless because the rim doesn't have that place where the tyre bead can pop safely, as the rear rim have, is it true?
There is no safety bead on the front, correct. So if you ride with low pressure it is possible fir the tires to come off the bead. But that would have to be very low pressure. I explain this risk and how to avoid it in detail in the outex video if you wanna see that one
See the description for tools and the supplies.
6,500km with no air loss and I can drop the pressure down slightly off road trouble free.
Is it still holding on?
@slipngrip as the pinned coments says, yes
Ive had to seal spaces holding air and fuel before and like the approach you've taken here. It'd be great to see a follow up to this project after getting a few fatigue cycles on the rim
@@jmannUSMC I pin a comment with long term updates
Saw that after I hit send 😂
Thanks for these videos, they have been very educational! Even if it worked for you I've decided to keep my tubed setup. The possible failure of the seal in the long run is worrying, but the main deal breaker for me, and I don't recall if it was mentioned, is that all tire replacements would have to be done by me from that point on. It would be difficult to find a shop that would risk the job on a DIY modified wheel. I have (occasionally) changed tires on my R nineT, but it is sooo cheap and convenient to have it done in a shop that it is something I would not want to forfeit.
@hawgietonight everyone needs to ride their own ride and do what's good for them.
I can't say for you. But in japan tire shops with still do the change for me. They will just say that failure isn't their fault.
This is a risk, but not actually that big. If there is a damage to 1 spoke, it will be a small slow leak. A mager failure in the rim will likely be as unridable as a tube wheel.
But again, at your/my own risk.
@@DragoniteMotoJP yeah it's fair game, once you start tinkering you have to acknowledge that anything that happens later is one's own fault. BTW I dig your style of on-hands approach, got yourself another subscriber. Keep us updated on the tubeless conversion!
@hawgietonight thank you and thank you.
Yes, I just did a tire change on the rear. All good, no signs of issues.
If there is I'll make another video for sure
I’m glad it finally worked! Good job, good idea protecting the 4200 with the rim tape.
@KikoBW7 me too, loving tubless. Container still has enough for1 more, so it's cheap too😅
@@DragoniteMotoJP deffo trying this in the down time this winter! Had one flat so far and it was a massive pain in the bottom, luckily it happened while I was pulling into the garage, but still took 2 days to organise a tube change. Can you actually feel any weight difference by removing the tubes?
@KikoBW7 In the rear, yes. The front no, but I had toswitchtoa heavier tire.
Make sure to do it when it's not too cold. This is temperature sensitive
@@DragoniteMotoJP yes I plan to work in a heated garage 🙌🏼
@@KikoBW7 1 day, I dream of having a garage😂😂
I did put on the same front tire that came with the bike just like your original front tire on a cool looking VMX rim that I put on yesterday and fortunately I didn't damage my tire and even though it shows to be tube type tire it didn't leak but the down side of it is that the VMX tubeless rim put an extra 3 pounds (1.36 kg) on the front of my Transalp 750. You are going in the right direction to achieve your goal for tubeless tire setup because those Transalp wheels are super light, and awesome video mate!
@cliftonsr thanks
Wow, that's a big weight gain. I asked them and vmx told me it's the same weight as oem. Glad you like your wheels but I'll stick to my light weight diy😅
just an idea [hope it helps]
when removing stubborn rim tape (?) I warm it a little
a hair dryer is ok, Ive used my heat gun on low and a few passes the tape adhesive comes away a little better than when its cold.
Only low heat just enough to warm it & I can touch the tape without gloves and no discomfort to me.
in a pinch I rubbed the rim by hand - didnt have a heat gun.
it takes longer, but the old tape had not been on a long time.
@bellyacres7846 thanks, this was dune at 31°c so I thought it was warm enough. But yes heat would help.
In this video what I removes at the start was 3m 4200 that I used wrong. Removing tape was in the previous video.
But thank you for the tip.
nice work! I've done that on three different bicycles but it seems to be much more work on motorbikes; one question though : why don't you use some sealant to prevent any leaks like we do with tubeless mountain bikes?
Weight, pressure, and speed of the wheel.
All this does is seal the spokes. After that, tire and metal should be good to go, like a mag/forged rim.
Put some Stans Mtn Bike sealant in there, that will eliminate and small leaks.
@@nvmcrider8475 so far no leaks
Just in...2025 Honda Transalp...with tubeless tires. Will be the announcement in 3 months. ;)
Hope that's true. But I've not seen any credible sources
If it gets better suspension, cruise, and electrics that remember settings, might be worth the upgrade.
Why did you use 3M 4200 and not the 5200 ?
@esrider7765 5200 never comes of without ruining the wheel. So a mistake ruins the wheel.
I talk more detail in this video👇
ua-cam.com/video/xgPWV94OvHM/v-deo.html
@@DragoniteMotoJP Thanks for info, I always thought the 4200 was for wood etc, not metal. Seems that is not the case. I am planning on doing this on my motorbike at some stage.
@esrider7765 I pin a comment on all my videos for long term updates.
When you get around to doing it to your own bike, check back. If I have trouble I'll pin it in the top comment.
Why can't Honda just put tubless rims on this bike - evenas an option at point of sale. We had all this nonsense with the first gen Africa Twin.
@DaveBoothroyd-ej5in honda is reactive not proactive. And they think if they give us the good features we won't buy the africatwin.
They were wrong and we still didn't buy the AT. They just lost our Mooney tot he after market.
There are summers of the 2025 having tubeless and cruise
From what I've heard, you cant make the front wheel 100% tubeless because the rim doesn't have that place where the tyre bead can pop safely, as the rear rim have, is it true?
There is no safety bead on the front, correct.
So if you ride with low pressure it is possible fir the tires to come off the bead.
But that would have to be very low pressure. I explain this risk and how to avoid it in detail in the outex video if you wanna see that one
You do realize that you cannot adjust the spoke wires tension anymore, right?
I can and have, that’s what the slicker heads were for. As I stated in the video.
But like everything, at your own risk
@@DragoniteMotoJPAre you referring to the stickers
@@slipngrip yes, that I put over the spoke before the 3m was added